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Molweni nonke, lixesha elikhulu kakhulu
wembeko ukuma apha phambi kwenu. Enkosi, Ivo.

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Ndicinga ukuba kulungile ngokwenene ukuba
lapha namhlanje. Kuhlala kulungile ukuba

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kwindawo elungileyo ngexesha elilungileyo, akunjalo?

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Kwiimeko ezininzi ndiye ndazifumana ndikwindawo engalunganga
ngexesha elingalunganga. Xa kusenzeka

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iingozi ezincinci zezithuthi, udla
ngokuzitsho, "Owu, ukuba bendiqhube ngenye indlela."

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Kodwa namhlanje, ndiva nje ukuba le yindawo kanye efanelekileyo
ngexesha elifanelekileyo. Kwaye xa iyonke, ndiva into efana

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nale—mhlawumbi nawe uyayazi le mvakalelo—ukuba ubusika
buye diphela kwaye kukho umoya ofana nowasentwasahlobo

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emoyeni, kwezi ntsuku zokuqala zokufudumala ngoMatshi.

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Ndiva ngaphakathi kwam ukuba thina,
njengoluntu, njengabantu, sidinga utshintsho.

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Ndisandul' ukuba seVienna kwakhona – ngamanye
amaxesha ndiyaya phaya ngenxa yomsebenzi – ndaza

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ndahamba ezitratweni ndakwatyelela nePalamente.

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Kwaye kwakukho imifanekiso eqingqiweyo yabaseki beriphabliki
ababhengeza iRiphabliki yase-Austria. Kwaye ngandlel' ithile

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kwachukumisa intliziyo yam kakhulu kangangokuba ndacinga,
mhlawumbi ngelo xesha – andifuni kugweba ngoku, isibhengezo

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seRiphabliki yase-Austria, ayisiyiyo leyo ingongoma – kodwa
mhlawumbi ngelo xesha, xa babesilwela, okanye nantoni na

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eyayibakhuthaza, babengacingi ukuba kungaze
kufike kule meko, ukuba ingaphumelela, ukuba

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ilizwe elahlukileyo kangaka lingaba yinyani.

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Kwaye ke bagqibela ngokungaphumeleli.

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Ndiyathemba ukuba akukho namnye kuthi oza kuphelela engento,
kodwa siza kusafumana ithuba lokufumana amava kweli hlabathi

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litsha. Ukuba siza kufumana amava ngotshintsho athethe ngalo
uChristoph Hörstel. Ukuba asizokuthetha ngalo

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nje, asizokuphupha ngalo nje, kodwa siza
kulufumana ngokwenene – ukuba olo tshintsho luyenzeka.

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Ewe. Isihloko sentetho yam sithi:
"Inzala kwityala: into ekufuneka uyazi!"

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Mhlawumbi nawe uva ngendlela ebendisoloko ndiva ngayo
ndisengumntwana – nokuba bendiboleka imali nje yee-ayisikhrim,

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nokuba yayiyeyodwa i-Deutschmark ngelo xesha – bendisoloko
ndonwaba kakhulu xa bendikwazi ukubuyisa loo mboleko.

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Kusenjalo nanamhlanje, nokuba ziiyuro ezili-10
kuphela. Ndandisoloko ndikhululeka kakhulu xa

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ekugqibeleni ndiyilahle loo mboleko yobudenge.

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Ingaba ukhona omnye umntu ovakalelwa ngolu
hlobo? Andindedwa ngokupheleleyo, kulungile.

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Uze wazi loo mvakalelo. Kumnandi
ngokwenene ukukwazi ukuphila ungatyala.

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Iimpolitiki zethu, iinkokeli zoshishino,
oonozakuzaku bezemali kunye neentloko

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zikarhulumente babonakala benembono eyahlukileyo ngetyala.

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Xa ubukele indlela ityala lesizwe elikhula ngayo,
ungade ucinge ukuba ukuba netyala ngoku

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kuthathwa njengento efanelekileyo kuqoqosho olukhulisayo.

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Kwaye malunga nokubuyisa – andazi,
akukho nto ithethwa ngokubuyisa.

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Into endisoloko ndiyiva yimiboleko emitsha kunye neenzala
eziphezulu ekufuneka zihlawulwe, kodwa ngandlel'

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ithile ingcamango yokuyibuyisa ayifane ibonakale
ingena engqondweni yakhe. Andiyevi nto ngaloo nto.

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Ndizise itshati ukuze ndikunike isishwankathelo sokuqala.
Namhlanje, sele sithethe ngemixholo yaseYurophu

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namazwe ehlabathi, kunye netyala nenkqubo yezemali.
Ngokwenene, amazwe anetyala elingakanani? EYurophu, umzekelo.

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Kwaye ndiyibonakalisile le nto – ndisebenzisa amanani
asemthethweni avela kwi-International Monetary Fund –

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umlinganiselo wetyala xa uthelekiswa nemveliso yelizwe iyonke.

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Imveliso yelizwe iyonke yisixa-mali sayo
yonke imveliso neenkonzo eziveliswa kwilizwe.

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Yonke into eveliswayo apho, wonke umsebenzi
owenziwayo, uyarekhodwa apho, kwaye amatyala

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alo ilizwe ke abekwa kwimbonakalo ecacileyo.

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Kwaye ndizenzele isigqibo.

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Ireyithingi ethi "akukho mboleko" iluhlaza
bumnyama kum. Ndingatsho kwangoko ukuba

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akukho lizwe eliluhlaza bumnyama eYurophu.

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Ndakha ndacinga "10%", ngoko ke ukuba ilizwe linetyala
elingama-10% xa lithelekiswa noko

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liyifumanayo ngonyaka, ndandilibiza ngokuba luhlaza
okotshani okukhanyayo ndaza ndaliphawula.

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Kum, i-'10 ukuya kwi-25%' mthubi, i-'25 ukuya
kwi-75%' ibomvu, kwaye 'ngaphezulu kwe-75%' ibomvu bumnyama.

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Mandikubonise indlela endiyivavanya ngayo le nto.

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Khawufan' ucinge ukuba uhlawula zonke iibhilithi zakho inyanga
yonke, kodwa awuyifumani imivuzo yakho; endaweni yoko, idluliselwa

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ngqo ebhankini ngenjongo yokuhlawula ityala lesizwe sethu.

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Ukuba wenza loo nto inyanga yonke, kodwa ngaxeshanye uhlawula
irente yakho, uhlawulela ipetroli, uhlawulela ukuthenga,

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uhlawulela iimpahla, kwaye umsebenzi wasezitishini
ze-petroli okanye umniniyo wazo enza okufanayo,

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uthatha imali yakho, kodwa naye uyayisa ebhankini.

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Ukuba wenza loo nto njengomzekelo – sifuna ukuzihlutha
kwizikweletu zethu ngokukhawuleza – ngoko unokukwazi

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ukuhlawula i-8% ngenyanga ngokuzimela kwizinto zonke.

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Kwaye kuloo nto ndafumana imibala, ndisithi,
kulungile, ndingasakwazi ukuqikelela ukuba

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abantu abanjalo banganakwazi ukuyenza loo nto.

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Nditshilo ukuba kutyheli, kulungile, inyanga enye
ukuya kwezintathu, kusenokwenzeka ukuba akukabikho

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mfazwe yamakhaya ukuba yonke imali iya ezibhankini.

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Kodwa andisokuze ndiqiniseke ukuba asizukugqibela sinemfazwe
yamakhaya okanye abantu beziphilela ngokwabo okanye

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nantoni na eJamani ukuba besisoloko kufuneka sinikele imali
esiyisebenzeleyo ukuze nje sigcine iibhanki zonwabile.

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Ngoko ke masijonge amazwe sibone ukuba iYurophu, iYurophu yethu
esiyithandayo, injani: iPotugal inetyala lesizwe eliyi-124%,

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iSpain yi-97%, iFransi yi-92%, iGreat Britain yi-93%, iIreland
yi-119%, iItali yi-128%, njalo njalo, iLuxembourg

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ene-25%, isenza kakuhle kakhulu eneneni –
ndiphequlula le nto apha – phantse kukho amazwe abomvu kuphela.

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Sinayo iBulgaria ene-16%, endiza kubuya kuyo kamva, kunye
neTurkey. Zimbalwa ezingekhoyo, yonke

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iScandinavia. I-Estonia, enetyala lesizwe elingama-10%, nayo
igaqamile, njengeGeorgia, iArmenia neAzerbaijan.

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Kwaye ke kukho ibhere enkulu, iRashiya, enetyala
lesizwe eliyi-10%, iluhlaza, iluhlaza okhanyayo, hayi

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oluhlaza bumnyama, kodwa iluhlaza okhanyayo nangona kunjalo.

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Ukuthetha inyani, bendingazakuba
neentloni ukuba ndingoyena unoxanduva lwaloo nto.

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Kuba eneneni ... ngesiqhelo awuphili ngolo
hlobo. Awuphili ngetyala uze ube nebhongo ngaloo nto.

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Kodwa siza kubuyela kuloo nto kamva xa
siphendula umbuzo othi, ingaba bekusoloko kunjalo?

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Umntu angaphinda aziqonde ukuba, kulungile, mhlawumbi
yayikhangeleka ngokwahlukileyo kwixesha elidlulileyo kwaye

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mhlawumbi kunjalo nangoku, ingaba oku kunxulumene nengxaki
yezoqoqosho ka-2008? Makhe siphinde sijonge olu phuhliso.

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Kodwa kuqala, masiphinde sijonge ihlabathi lonke.

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Zimbalwa kuphela iindawo ezingekho mthweni; iindawo
ezili-171 kwezili-173 ezibandakanyiweyo yi-IMF okwangoku

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zikwimeko yokuboleka imali. Zimbalwa kakhulu eziluhlaza mnyama.

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Sele sithethe ngomhlaba, ndizakubuya kuso.

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Kunzima ukubona, andikwazi ukuzinzisa isandla sam
ngokwaneleyo, iKuwait isaluhlaza, ayingabo

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bonke abantu abanokuyazi iBrunei, iMalaysia iluhlaza.

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Kwaye abanye basematyaleni ngandlel' ithile, ubuncinci umbala
wabo uluhlaza okotshani okhanyayo, nto leyo

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eyamkelekileyo; singayibona i-Iran apha. Kodwa abanye bamnyama,
ukusuka kumnyama ukuya kumnyama otyheli kakhulu ematyaleni.

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Kwaye into engathandekiyo ngetyala kukuba lihlawulisa inzala.

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Kwaye ngoku kuvela umbuzo: ngubani
kanye kanye ohlawula inzala yetyala?

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Ukuphendula lo mbuzo, ndingathanda ukuhlola amaqela amathathu.

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Iqela loku-1 liquka amakhaya abucala,

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Iqela lesi-2: Iinkampani

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kwaye kwiQela lesi-3 urhulumente welizwe.

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Iqela loku-1 nguwe, umzekelo, xa usiya ebhankini uze
uthathe imali-mboleko yokuhlawulela imoto yakho entsha eyaninzi.

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Kule meko, umcimbi ucacile
ngokwenene. Unoxanduva lwenzala yetyala.

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Ngoku ke uza kusebenza nzima ukuze ufumane
imali oya kuyisebenzisa ukuhlawula amatyala akho.

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Noko ke, ungatsho nokuthi, ndiyazikhupha kule ntsilelo
yamatyala, andisayi kuthatha mboleko okanye ikhredithi.

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Andifuni ukuphawula ngaloo nto okwangoku.

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Kodwa cinga ngale nto: Ungakwazi na ukubaleka
esi sigqibo sakho, le ndlela yokuba netyala?

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Masijonge kwiQela lesi-2, iinkampani.

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Kwimeko yam, ndingathanda ukukwazisa ngeshishini
lezolimo elityala imbewu, phakathi kwezinye izinto.

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Umfama uthenge itrektara entsha ekrelekrele.

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Uyihlawulele ngemali yebhanki, ngoko ke inyanga iyanda.

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Ukuba ngoku sijonga imeko yeendleko
zeshishini lezolimo, sinazo, kwelinye icala, iindleko

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zabasebenzi zomncedisi wezolimo oncede umlimi.

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Kwelinye icala, kukho iindleko zezinto. Oku kunokuba
yidizili yetrektara okanye, njengoko kubonisiwe apha, iimbewu.

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Kwaye, njengoko sele kukhankanyiwe,
okwesithathu sinazo iindleko zenzala.

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Eli shishini lezolimo liza kudlulisela zonke
ezi ndleko zontathu njengeendleko zizonke

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kwixabiso lokuthengisa lomqhaphu – kumthengi womqhaphu.

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Kwimeko yam, umthengi weenkozo sisigaya.
Iinkozo zigayiwe zibe yintofontofo esigayweni.

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Kwaye ukuze imbona igayiwe ibe ngumgubo,
kufuneka nabasebenzi abakhutheleyo apha.

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Itekhnoloji yemveliso yomzi-mveliso – masithi – kunye
nomzi-mveliso ngokwawo nayo iyaxhaswa ngemali yibhanki.

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Oku kuthetha ukuba inzala nayo iza kuhlawuliswa kule meko.

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Masijonge imeko yeendleko apha kwisigcawu.

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Emva koko sinazo iindleko zabasebenzi abasebenza
nzima, sinazo iindleko zezinto zokusebenza, ezizeengqolowa

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ezivela efama, kwaye sinazo neendleko zenzala yomgca.

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Njengomxhaphi, ndithenga umgubo wam kule migca,
kwaye imigca nayo iyayidlulisela le ndleko exabiso.

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Oku kuthetha ukuba, njengomxhaphazi wezemvelo, ndithenga umgubo
wam kwisigayo kwaye ndineancedisi

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abakhutheleyo abandincedayo ukuwuguqula ube sisonka
nee-rooli, endize ndizithengisele abathengi bam.

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Ngenxa yokuba iirates zenzala zilungile
kakhulu ebhankini ngoku, ndithenge i-oveni entsha.

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Kwaye oko, ewe kona, kukhokelela nakwiindleko zenzala.

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Masijonge imeko yeendleko kwindawo yam yokubhaka.

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Emva koko ndineendleko zabasebenzi bam basebhakini, ndikwanazo
nezi ndleko zezinto, ndithenge umgubo

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kwisigayo, kwaye ndikwanazo neendleko zenzala,
ezizezo ze-oveni entle entsha endiyithengileyo.

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Nam, ndiza kubala ixabiso lesonka sam
nee-rolls ngendlela ebonakalisa ezi ndleko zintathu:

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Iindleko zam zabasebenzi, iindleko zam
zezinto, kunye neendleko zam zenzala.

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Ndaye ndiyidlulisela loo nto kumthengi
wokugqibela ngexabiso. Kwaye ngabo wena nam.

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Mandishwankathele ngokufutshane:

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Ishishini lezolimo liza kudlulisela iindleko
zalo zenzala, kunye neendleko zabasebenzi

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nezixhobo, kumthengi weenkozo kwixabiso lokuthengisa.

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Inkampani yokusila iza kudlulisa iindleko zayo zenzala kunye
neendleko zezinto nezabasebenzi kwixabiso lokuthengisa lomgubo.

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Kwaye njengomxhaphi, ndenza into efanayo:
ndidlulisela iindleko zam zenzala kunye neendleko zabasebenzi

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nezinto zokusebenza kwixabiso lokuthengisa lesonka.

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Siyahlawula konke oku. Oku kuthetha ukuba thina, njengabathengi
bokugqibela, siyahlawula zonke iindleko zoluhlu lwexabiso,

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kuquka zonke iindleko zenzala. Kwaye kunjalo kuyo yonke indawo.

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Nokuba ubhukisha uhambo lweholide okanye uhlawulele imoto
ngekheshana, uhlawulela ibhanki inzala nangona

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kungathanga ngqo – nokuba uthenga nje i-ayisikhrim, kukho
iindleko zenzala ezihlangeneyo kwaye ziya ebhankini.

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Lilonke ke, siyahlawula yonke into esiyithengayo, yonke ityala
esilihlawulayo, nokuba yimpahla, ukutya, iiholide, izithuthi,

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izixhobo zomculo, akukhathaliseki, iifizi zeklabhu – siyahlawula
iindleko zenzala ezibandakanyiweyo kuluhlu lwexabiso.

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Kwaye ungayibala loo nto. Yimali
engumyinge ongaphantsi kwe-40% yexabiso lokuthenga.

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Ukuba ngoku uyazibuza ukuba ungumpumeleli okanye
ongaphumelelanga, mandikucacisele ngendlela eyiqondakalayo.

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I-40% yexabiso lokuthenga – ithetha ntoni loo nto?

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Ukuze ukwazi ukuzibalela ngokwakho. Ukuba uyazazi
iindleko zakho zenyanga, masithi uneendleko zenyanga

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ze-2,000 yee-euro, ke i-40% ilingana ne-800 yee-euro.

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Oku kuthetha ukuba uhlawula i-€800 ngokungathanga
ngqo, okanye mhlawumbi ngokuthe ngqo, ebhankini.

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Xa ilinganiswa unyaka wonke, oko kuyi-9,600 le yuro.

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Kwaye ngoku into ekufuneka uyenzile
kukuthatha isitatimende sakho sebhanki ekupheleni

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konyaka, apho kuboniswa khona inzala yekhredithi.

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Emva koko ungajonga ubone ukuba
ungafumana iiyuro eziyi-9,600 na apho.

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Kwaye ukuba ufumana isixa esiphezulu, ube ngumphumeleli, kwaye
ukuba ufumana esisezantsi – esam siphantsi

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ngokutyhafa, andicingi ukuba ndisafumana naziphi na
iingxelo zenzala ngoku – ube ngumloyisi kule nkqubo.

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Kodwa ayiphelelanga apho. Urhulumente uphinde uya
esetyeni ngakumbi ngakumbi ukuze alandele iimfuno zakhe.

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Kwaye uyayihlawula le nzala netyala ngokunjalo – ngohlobo
lweemali zokuhlangabezana neendleko ezibekiweyo neerhafu.

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Ngoko ke kufanelekile ukuba sijonge le
modeli yoburhulumente, esele sivile kancinci

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ngayo kwintetho – njengoko sele ukhankanyile.

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Kunjani xa urhulumente efuma amatyala?

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EGermany, malunga nezibini kwezithathu zomthamo wekredithi
zithathwa ngurhulumente waseJamani ngohlobo lweemboleko

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ezivela kwiibhanki ezizimeleyo nakumaziko ekhredithi.

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Kwaye isinye kwisithathu kwizibophelelo
zikarhulumente. Izibini kwisithathu! Ukwenza njani oko?

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Iibhanki zifumana imali yazo phi?
Ngokucacileyo, sesele siyivile le ntetho: imali ye-fiat.

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Iibhanki zivunyelwe ukukhupha imali yencwadi.

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Urhulumente uvumele iibhanki ukuba
zenze oku kulandelayo: ningadala imali.

14:34.965 --> 14:39.769
Ngokomgaqo, xa sithetha ngqo, yimatshini yokuprinta
imali. Iibhanki zivumelekile ukuba ziprinte imali.

14:39.769 --> 14:45.434
Okuphela kwenzuzo yemali yencwadi kukuba akufuneki
nokuba ube nomatshini wokushicilela okanye owenzi wemali.

14:45.434 --> 14:48.746
Uyonga imali kwaye uyavunyelwa ukuyinqamba imali.

14:48.746 --> 14:56.473
Kwaye ke urhulumente eze athi, "Hewani, ndifuna
imali," athathe imali-mboleko, aze ayibuyise enomrhumo wayo.

14:56.473 --> 15:02.033
Ewe, andazi, kodwa kum oko kusenokuba sisivumelwano esibi.

15:09.573 --> 15:16.175
Ukuze kucace gca – ndongeze le ntsingiselo incinci
– urhulumente unika iibhanki imali ukuze zikwazi

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ukuyithatha njengeemboleko zize zihlawule inzala.

15:19.410 --> 15:24.418
Kwaye ndikholelwa ukuba mhlawumbi ungakwazi
ukulawula imali yakho ngcono ngaloo ndlela.

15:24.418 --> 15:27.032
Kwaye ngoku, njengoko kuthembisiwe, ityala lesizwe.

15:27.032 --> 15:35.301
Ingaba ngoku lo ngumba ozinzileyo, okanye kusekho ithuba
lotshintsho – ithini kanye indlela ekhoyo kumatyala karhulumente?

15:35.301 --> 15:39.877
Masijonge ke loo nto. Ukuba sesona sinoxanduva
lwenzala yetyala, mhlawumbi ke kufuneka sibe

15:39.877 --> 15:43.586
nombono wokuba urhulumente ulisebenzisa njani eli mali.

15:43.586 --> 15:50.117
Ityala lesizwe ukusuka ngo-1995 ukuya ku-2013, zonke
iinkcukacha ziphinde zavela kwi-International Monetary Fund.

15:50.117 --> 15:56.013
Ikwabonakaliswa kwakhona njengepesenti
yemveliso yelizwe iyonke, esele siyaziqhelanise nayo.

15:56.013 --> 16:01.653
Emva koko, sinetyala lesizwe elinyukayo kule
minyaka ingamashumi amabini idlulileyo eJamani.

16:01.653 --> 16:05.289
Kwaye ndingakuthembisa ukuba oku akuzange kube njalo
kuphela kule minyaka ingamashumi amabini idlulileyo.

16:05.289 --> 16:12.560
Ndalandela imbali yayo – iirekhodi endizifumene
ziqala ngo-1950, xa iJamani yayinetyala

16:12.560 --> 16:17.340
lesizwe le-9 lezigidi zee-Deutschmark, i-9 lezigidi.

16:17.340 --> 16:22.246
Andazi kanye ukuba isibalo sabantu
besingakanani kwiminyaka emihlanu emva kokuphela kwemfazwe.

16:22.246 --> 16:26.732
Kodwa masithi zizigidi ezingama-70 ukuya
kwezingama-80. Loo nto ibingayi kudlula iipence

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ezingama-20. Nokuba yipence ezingama-20 ngomntu ngamnye.

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Ngo-2011 – elona nani latsha endikwazileyo
ukulifumana – sasikwi-€24,771 ubuncinane ngomhlali ngamnye.

16:41.253 --> 16:44.598
Hayi ngomqeshwa ngamnye, ngomhlali
ngamnye, oko kukuthi, ngosana ngalunye.

16:44.598 --> 16:50.853
Ngoko ke ungadibanisa nje iindleko zakho
zasekhaya, uze wazi isabelo sakho kwityala lesizwe.

16:50.853 --> 16:55.121
Ndiyazifumana ndineentloni.
Iineentloni. Ukulawula ilizwe ngolo hlobo.

16:55.121 --> 16:59.809
EFranse, isikweletu sesizwe besinyuka ngokuthe
ngcembe ukusuka kwi-55% ukuya kwi-92%, siphantse

16:59.809 --> 17:03.237
saphindaphindeka kabini kwisithuba seminyaka engama-20.

17:03.237 --> 17:06.553
I-England iphinde kabini ngaphezulu ityala lesizwe.

17:06.553 --> 17:10.753
IGreece – sele isaziwa kakhulu
kumaphephandaba – inetyala lesizwe elikhulu kakhulu.

17:10.753 --> 17:15.313
Kundenza ndizibuze, yintoni injongo yokuba nomphathiswa
wezemali, yintoni injongo yokuba nabo bonke aba bantu?

17:15.313 --> 17:20.842
Ndicinga ukuba nathi singakwazi ukuyenza loo nto,
okanye ukuphendula kwintetho yakho, Ivo, nabantu

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abaxhaphake iziyobisi ababaphilise nabo babenokukwazi ukuyenza.

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Nabo ngebaphathe umgaqo-nkqubo wezemali onjalo.

17:35.926 --> 17:40.028
Kwaye ke kukho amanye amazwe abonisa ukuba kunokwenziwa:

17:40.028 --> 17:46.859
IBhulgariya. Kusenokwenzeka ukuba baphenjelelwa yinjongo
yaseBhulgariya yokuba lilungu elipheleleyo le-EU, nabo

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bakwazile ukunciphisa ityala labo ukusuka kwi-75% ukuya
kwi-16% ngexesha elifutshane, ukusuka ngo-2000 ukuya ku-2013.

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IRashiya nayo ikwazile ukufumana ulungelelwano
oluhle ekunciphiseni ityala layo. Ngoko ke kunokwenzeka.

17:59.493 --> 18:07.333
Emva koko sijonga umkhuluwa omkhulu, umdlali
onamava xa kuziwa 'ekubangeleni iingxaki zezoqoqosho'.

18:07.333 --> 18:12.512
I-112 pesenti yetyala lesizwe, i-112 pesenti yetyala lesizwe!

18:12.512 --> 18:16.297
I-China iyakhula, kodwa sesikhe seva ngale
nto kwintetho. Ukuhla komnotho mhlawumbi yinto

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ekufuneka ithathelwe ingqalelo ngokungqongqo.

18:18.393 --> 18:21.573
Kungenzeka ukuba namaTshayina nawo
ayenoluvo lwento eyayisenzeka apha.

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Ndikuye ndaqaphela loo nto, ndidlula nje.

18:24.353 --> 18:29.733
Abasenamdla wokwenza ishishini ne-USA,
nokuthumela iimpahla phesheya baze bafumane iidola.

18:29.733 --> 18:35.753
Ngoku baxakeke kakhulu ngokuthenga iipropathi neenkampani
e-United States. Masiyathemba ukuba oko kuza kubanceda.

18:35.753 --> 18:39.579
Kwaye ke, ngokuqinisekileyo, iJapan
ayinakushiywa ngaphandle kwezizwe ezithathu ezikhulu

18:39.579 --> 18:42.233
zoqoqosho ubuncinci kwiminyaka yoo-1980 noo-1990.

18:42.233 --> 18:46.823
Umqhubi wenqwelomoya wokwenene we-kamikaze weMfazwe
yesibini yeHlabathi usibonisa indlela ekwenziwa ngayo.

18:46.823 --> 18:50.612
Yinto yobuyatha leyo. Amakhulu amabini
anamashumi amane anesihlanu ekhulwini wetyala lesizwe.

18:50.612 --> 18:56.379
Ukuba umntu okwelethelayo eza athi, "Ndingathanda
ukubuyisa imali yam," ngoko amaJapan kuza kufuneka asebenze

18:56.379 --> 18:59.838
iminyaka emibini enesiqingatha ngaphandle kokufumana nethenti.

18:59.838 --> 19:01.963
Yonke into kumabhanki, yonke into kumabhanki.

19:01.963 --> 19:04.446
Ingxaki ke yeyokuba kwezo nyaka zimbini
enesiqingatha, kuya kufuneka baphinde bahlawule

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inzala, engadweliswanga nokudweliswa kuloo mbalo.

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Ewe, kwaye ke ndizenzele ithuba lokudwelisa apha ngezantsi,
mhlawumbi ngaphandle kohlalutyo olukhulu lwezopolitiko, amazwe

19:15.515 --> 19:19.713
ambalwa esele siwazi kakuhle kwiingxelo zamva nje zeendaba:

19:19.713 --> 19:25.158
Nanko ke iSyria, masibone ukuba iSyria iyisebenzisa njani imali.

19:25.158 --> 19:30.573
Bayaqonda nokuba kunjani ukuba netyala lesizwe elingama-183%.

19:30.573 --> 19:35.036
Kwaye ukusukela apha, iyawa. ISyria ayisaboneleli
ngalo naluphi na ulwazi malunga netyala layo

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lesizwe, kodwa ndikrokrela ukuba iyaqhubeka nokuhla.

19:38.041 --> 19:46.933
Singajonga i-Iran, engazenzeli ukuthandwa liqabane layo lamazwe
ngamazwe, elibonakala ngasizathu sithile libheja kwityala.

19:46.933 --> 19:55.506
Kwaye ke kukho iLibya, ilizwe eliluhlaza bumnyama. Ukusukela
ngo-2003, ndikholelwa ukuba, ibingenamatyala esizwe, ayisekho

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imatyala, ikhululekile, ingenatyala. Kunokwenzeka, akunjalo?

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Mandishwankatheze ngokufutshane. Ngoko ke,
yintoni ekufuneka uyazi ngetyala ukuba ubungayazi?

20:16.013 --> 20:23.493
Kakade ke, uhlawula inzala kwiziboleko zakho zobuqu,
kodwa ukhokela netyala lesizwe ngeerhafu nemirhumo.

20:23.493 --> 20:29.813
Kwaye into entsha kwabanye benu yeyokuba ngako
konke ukuthenga, uhlawula inzala, inzala yetyala.

20:29.813 --> 20:36.223
Kwaye ngenxa yokuba bambalwa kuphela abavunyelweyo ukwenza le
mali, siye safunda kwaye sele sivile ukuba kuza kubakho ukwabiwa

20:36.223 --> 20:40.173
ngokutsha; kufuneka kubekho ukwabiwa ngokutsha kobutyebi.

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Kwaye yiyo loo nto ndicinga ukuba kubalulekile ukuba
sicinge ngayo – kwaye ndisele ndisondela ekugqibeleni

20:47.248 --> 20:52.509
kwale ngxoxo – ingaba sifuna ukutshintsha nantoni na ngayo?

20:52.509 --> 20:57.747
Andifuni ukunikezela ngesisombululo, ngenxa yokuba
andifuni ukubonakala ngathi ndiyazi yonke into,

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kwaye ndicinga ukuba isisombululo sifiphele kakhulu.

21:01.689 --> 21:08.113
Ukuba ubamba isela lisiba, kufuneka libuyise impango, akunjalo?

21:08.113 --> 21:11.733
Akukho mfuneko yokuba kuthethwe ngenye isisombululo.

21:18.373 --> 21:24.700
Kodwa ndingacinga ukuba kwimeko yethu,
akuyomfuneko ukuba ibe sisela sezikhwama.

21:24.700 --> 21:29.845
Into esiyivileyo kuChristoph Hörstel iyamangalisa.

21:29.845 --> 21:36.509
Okanye into esiyibonileyo kwingxelo kamabonakude ye-Kla.TV –
isikhumbuzo seminyaka engama-50 sokufa kukaJohn F. Kennedy –

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ungatsho ukuba ngaleyo nto lo asiyongqolwa weengxowa-galelo.

21:40.345 --> 21:48.325
Ngoko ke kusenokwenzeka ukuba inkomba ekukuphela
kwayo – siyibonile loo nto, masiyivume – isenokungoneli.

21:48.325 --> 21:50.267
Emva koko ndizise ezinye iingcaphulo ezimbini.

21:50.267 --> 21:55.647
UJoshua Stamp, owayekhe waba ngumlawuli weBhange laseNgilani,
phakathi kwezinye izinto, wathi: "Ukuba nifuna ukuqhubeka

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nobukhoboka kwiibhanki nize nihlawulele
ubukhoboka benu, ke zivumeleni iibhanki

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ziqhubeke nokwenza imali nokulawula iikhredithi."

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Ungatsho into enje, kodwa abantu basakwazi ukulala
kancinci. Yiloo nto eyenza oku kube yinto ephambeneyo.

22:08.767 --> 22:11.673
Kwaye uHenry Ford naye waziwa kakhulu, uphawu lwemoto:

22:11.673 --> 22:15.873
Ukuba abantu bebeyakuqonda inkqubo
yemali, besiya kuba nenguquko phambi kwakusasa.

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Ungafunda ngezi zinto kwi-intanethi; zaziwa kakhulu.

22:19.109 --> 22:25.985
Ndiyazibuza kancinci: kutheni kunzima kangaka,
njengoko le ntombazana isandul' ukukhula

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ibonise kwingoma yayo, ukwenza abantu babe nemincili?

22:30.949 --> 22:36.696
Okokugqibela, ndingathanda ukutshintsha umxholo
ngokufutshane ndibuze lo mbuzo: ngubani kanye kanye onoxanduva?

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Ngubani onoxanduva lwale meko?

22:40.213 --> 22:43.513
Ingaba iibhanki zinoxanduva lwale meko inzima?

22:43.513 --> 22:50.393
Ndingayiphendula lo mbuzo ngokuthi "hayi", kuba
benza ngokungqinelana nomthetho osetyenziswayo.

22:50.393 --> 22:58.282
Ingaba urhulumente welizwe, oorhulumente kunye neempolitiki
banoxanduva? Nalapha, ndingaphendula lo mbuzo ngokuthi 'hayi'.

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Kuba benayo eyakho, banayo eyethu.

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Ngoko ngubani onoxanduva ngoku? Sithi.
Ewe, ndiyakubamba, wena. Nam. Sinuxanduva.

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Kodwa yintoni isitshixo sotshintsho ngoku?

23:17.603 --> 23:21.967
Kwaye ndingathanda ukwabelana ngeengcinga
ezimbini okanye ezintathu ezihambelana

23:21.967 --> 23:25.244
ngokupheleleyo noko sesikuvileyo kuChristoph Hörstel.

23:25.244 --> 23:28.143
Utshintsho oluzinzileyo – kunokwenzeka njani?

23:28.143 --> 23:35.502
Ngokoluvo lwam: kunokwenzeka kuphela xa
sizibona njengesizwe. Njengomzimba omnye wabantu.

23:35.502 --> 23:40.925
Ndakha ndaqamba la mazwi – yima kancinci ukuze
ubone ukuba uyawathanda na – "Abantu

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banokuphila kakuhle kakhulu ngaphandle kwesigebenga."

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Kodwa umlawuli ongenankathalo uyasokola xa engenabantu, akunjalo?

23:54.753 --> 24:03.965
Njengabantu, kufuneka siqonde kwakhona ukuba sinika amandla
abo sibakhetha ukubanika wona. Kwaye sinalo ulawulo kule nto.

24:03.965 --> 24:07.402
Kwaye ngoku, ke, umbuzo ngulo: Singaba njani ngabantu abanye?

24:07.402 --> 24:13.684
Isebenza njani loo nto? Kwaye ndingathetha ngokwenene
ngamava am apha. Mandigxininise iingongoma ezintathu

24:13.684 --> 24:17.229
ukubonisa ukuba yintoni efunekayo ukuze kube sisizwe.

24:17.229 --> 24:22.581
Inento yokwenza nokuqonda, nokwazi ukwamkela.
Inento yokwenza nokuphinda uhlolisise izinto.

24:22.581 --> 24:27.413
Ukuba awuthathi nje izinto, uziqelele
uze uzenze, kodwa uqala ukuzicingisisa.

24:27.413 --> 24:31.370
Kutheni ke iindawo ziba sisizwe? Ndingakucacisela oku ngokulula.

24:31.370 --> 24:36.275
Sasinabantu abaninzi abasebenzisana ne-S&G, abaninzi
abasebenzisana ne-AZK, kwaye yonke iminxeba

24:36.275 --> 24:41.081
endayitsalayo, njengoko unokungqina, yayisiwa
kwinqanaba eliphezulu yaza yadityaniswa kwangoko.

24:41.081 --> 24:46.650
Kwakukho abantu apho kwangoko endabona khona, owu, bacinga
kunye nam. Nabo bayacingisisa ngayo. Nabo bafuna ukuqonda.

24:46.650 --> 24:48.683
Abakhawulezi kwaye bathetha yonke into
ngokungachanekanga, kodwa endaweni yoko: Yima kancinci,

24:48.683 --> 24:50.307
khawulinde umzuzwana, yonke le nto ingena njani kunye?

24:50.307 --> 24:55.002
Kwaye ukusuka kumnqweno wokuqonda kuvela
ukuqonda. Ekuya kuqonda kuvela umanyano.

24:55.002 --> 24:59.973
Kufuneka siqonde, umzekelo, kufuneka
sifunde ukuqonda ukuba imali ayinakusebenza.

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Njengomzekelo nje. Imali ayisebenzi.

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Nani nisenjenjalo, kwaye ndiqhagela kwintetho yomntu othethe
ngaphambili apha, nisenze umsebenzi omncinci wokucwaninga.

25:07.899 --> 25:13.298
Kutheni ungabeki imali engamashumi amabini
eeponti ecaleni kwezitya ongazihlanzanga phezolo?

25:13.298 --> 25:16.433
Emva koko uvala ucango lwakhe lwekhitshi
aze abuyele apho ngentsasa elandelayo.

25:16.433 --> 25:20.493
Uya kubona ke ukuba imali isebenze na.

25:26.773 --> 25:30.999
Kukho abantu abaninzi endlwini yethu. Mhlawumbi
ndingayitshixa ucango, kungenjalo imali ye-euro elishumi

25:30.999 --> 25:34.653
izakube isusiwe, kwaye ndisakufuneka ndigeze izitya.

25:36.532 --> 25:40.352
Ukuba sibe sisizwe kunxulumene kakhulu
notshintsho nokuzimisela ukutshintsha.

25:40.352 --> 25:45.415
Kum, ukuzimisela ukutshintsha kukwathetha
ukuthatha uxanduva kwakhona, okanye njengoko amazwi

25:45.415 --> 25:48.133
okuqukumbela athethayo, endiwabhale phantsi ngokwam:

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Sikunye sinokwenza umahluko. Qala ngawe, tshintsha into ngawe.

25:52.693 --> 25:57.171
Idala uhlobo olwahlukileyo lwenxibelelwano elusukela
entliziyweni. Ndingatsho ngenene loo nto ngabathumwa bam.

25:57.171 --> 26:02.679
Yiyo leyo umxholo we-Strategy 2+, leyo uRuth
akhankanye ngaphambili. Sakha inethiwekhi kunye nabathwali.

26:02.679 --> 26:07.648
Kukho unxibelelwano lwentliziyo nomntu ngamnye kuba
ndiqaphela ukuba wonke umntu ufuna ukutshintsha into ethile.

26:07.648 --> 26:10.499
Wonke umntu uzilungisa, wonke umntu uqala kuqala ngaye.

26:10.499 --> 26:15.679
Kuncibilika konke kube kunye. Akukho mfuneko
yokwenza intetho ende ngayo, kwenzeka nje.

26:15.679 --> 26:20.210
Kwaye oku kudibana, oku kuba lusapho, kukhokelela
ekwakheni unxibelelwano. Ndicinga ukuba yinto entsha leyo.

26:20.210 --> 26:23.515
Kuye kwakho iinkokeli ezininzi
ezinomtsalane ngokwenene ehlabathini.

26:23.515 --> 26:31.288
Ngamacebo amahle, ngendlela enombono
wokwenene, nangesakhono sokukhuthaza isizwe.

26:31.288 --> 26:35.070
Kodwa into endiyivayo, le nto ixesha lethu
eliyiphila ngoku, kukudibana kwabantu

26:35.070 --> 26:38.062
abakumgangatho ophantsi kakhulu, abaqala kanye ezantsi.

26:38.062 --> 26:42.030
Nako oko kokuqala, into endiyibhalileyo kwisithethi esidlulileyo:

26:42.030 --> 26:45.913
Sikhula kunye sisuka ezantsi siye phezulu.
Utshintsho kufuneka luvele ezantsi luye phezulu.

26:45.913 --> 26:53.111
Yiloo nto unxibelelwano, yile qela labantu abaziva njengoluntu.
Abathi ngequbuliso baqonde ukuba asakhi

26:53.111 --> 27:00.561
unxibelelwano lwethu kuFacebook, kodwa sabakha
kunye nabantu bokwenene abanengalo nemilenze.

27:07.773 --> 27:10.045
Sisondela ngakumbi nangakumbi kwinqaku. Asihlali nje sizikhalela.

27:10.045 --> 27:13.092
Siyakonwabela ukuxoxa ngezihloko zezopolitiko noogxa bethu.

27:13.092 --> 27:17.293
Kodwa masigqithele ngokukhawuleza
kumbuzo: Ngaba ukulungele ukutyala ixesha?

27:17.293 --> 27:20.812
Ukulungele na ukuzityala? Kwaye yile ndlela umntu abesizwe ngayo.

27:20.812 --> 27:25.648
Kwaye ndicinga ukuba nonke, okanye ubuncinci uninzi lwenu,
niyayazi i-S&G, iphephandaba elithi "Stimme und Gegenstimme"

27:25.648 --> 27:29.549
(Ilizwi neLizwi eliphikisayo). Leyo yindlela
yokusebenza ye-S&G. Kwaye yiyo loo nto – ndingenayo

27:29.549 --> 27:32.833
itafile yam yentetho – ndikhuthaza itafile yethu ye-S&G.

27:32.833 --> 27:37.373
Yiya apho. Ukuba awukazi okwangoku,
i-S&G ingaphezulu kwephephandaba nje.

27:37.373 --> 27:41.960
Kum, i-S&G yindlela, ewe, indlela yokuba sibe sisizwe esinye.

27:41.960 --> 27:49.353
Indlela yokudibana njengabantu. Ngoko ke, konke okuseleyo
endinokukuthetha kukuthi: nani nibe yinxalenye! Enkosi. Enkosi.