Swiss Mountain Clinic - Radiation-free zone for those sensitive to mobile communications
We are here at the Swiss Mountain Clinic.
It is located in Castaneda, in Graubünden, near the Italian border.
The Swiss Mountain Clinic is an international competence center for regulatory and causal medicine.
It is managed by Ulf Wiechel and his wife Dr. Petra Wiechel.
These have made the clinic as radiation-free a place as possible.
In the following interview with Ulf and Petra Wiechel, you can find out what motivated them to do this and
what measures they have implemented to reduce radiation.
Moderator: Yes, thank you very much for letting us stop by and for answering a few questions about your interesting project.
But let's start from the beginning.
Perhaps you can briefly explain to us: What exactly is the Swiss Mountain Clinic? What vision are you pursuing with it?
What is the aim and purpose of the Swiss Mountain Clinic?
Ulf Wiechel: Yes, if I may answer, Stephan.
The Swiss Mountain Clinic now has a 33-year tradition at this location, Al Ronc, Castaneda, to which we are committed.
And the great Adele Duttweiler, the wife of the "Dutti" who founded Migros back then - the Swiss certainly know the story -
opened this foundation or clinic as a building in 1987, and at that time in honor of her doctor, who
cured her with the help of natural healing methods.
That was practically her thank you.
And at the time, it gave a mandate that the Swiss people should always have a place where natural
healing methods are lived and practiced consistently.
And Petra and I are committed to this mission.
We no longer have anything to do economically with the Migros Foundation.
We are now the third owner in the history of this building since 2011 and, as I said, we have set ourselves the
goal of honoring the personalities who created this place.
That's one thing.
The other thing is that it's a different time today than it was back then, of course, and that we think more globally today.
And that is why the Swiss Mountain Clinic has developed into an international center for regulatory and causal medicine.
And we are committed to this by consistently taking advantage of the opportunities offered by this location, the opportunities
offered by the medicine that Petra practices and also the opportunities offered by the international clientele.
We now receive patients from over seventy countries.
And they come here because this place has many, many unique selling points.
And they simply come from the recommendation, from patient to patient.
There is no marketing behind it, in that form.
Moderator: Interesting, interesting!
Petra, how did you actually become aware of the dangers of mobile communications?
And how do you see the dangers?
Dr. Petra Wiechel: If you work on the basis that illness is not a condition, but that illness is always a
process, then you try to understand what processes are needed for it to arise in the first place.
So, health is linked to many things, including "getting sick".
And when you are on this path, your view of all these causes does not necessarily become ever greater, but rather ever deeper.
And, of course, you have already focused your transmitters on everything that might be
important as a cause of illness in this direction.
And this is actually a development that we have been dealing with for many years.
We were already living it when the cell phone was only on the market in 1993.
So there was no cell phone for the children.
Moderator: You were there really early.
Dr. Petra Wiechel: Yes, there was no "mobile" in the car, only with an external antenna/hands-free system.
From the very beginning, these were very consistent actions, which we probably also learned informatively and
intuitively at the time, but probably also at the time that these things were not (being) handled in this way.
And this awareness has prevailed to this day, that we really do see a "mobile" as a very valuable object, but for emergencies.
Moderator: In case of emergency, okay. Yes.
Well, can you explain the health risks from your point of view?
Dr. Petra Wiechel: Yes, you have to go a bit further than that, because our understanding of illness today is
very - I don't even know if I can say - very superficial.
This means that we deal with the symptomatic level precisely, with electron microscopic accuracy.
But life happens on completely different levels.
And man himself is an object of the greatest, 100% self-regulation.
The fact is that the human organism is surrounded by fields.
These are the cosmic fields, there are electric fields, these are magnetic fields, this is the magnetic field.
These are also things that are of great value to us biophotons, light, UV light.
So, life is not possible at all without all this.
The body is in a constant state of resonance.
This means that if we now take this high-frequency radiation, or these electromagnetic fields, which are not only caused by WLAN,
but also by DECT telephones and computers, all electrical devices, the baby monitor, etc., etc., then this is a
summation of energy, which of course also affects our body.
And now electromagnetic radiation or these pulsating high frequencies, the first thing that counts
is: "The dose makes the poison", as Paracelsus said.
My tolerance is certainly possible for one thing or another, even at this time.
And the danger lies in this alone: we don't smell it, we don't hear it, we don't notice it.
We don't notice it for a very, very long time. But it does something to us.
Moderator: It changes us. Dr. Petra Wiechel: And whenever this radiation reaches us - and of course it's a question of whether I
use my cell phone for a short call or for a longer conversation, whether I use WLAN for twenty-four hours and, and, and ...
Moderator: Or with a headset or without. Dr. Petra Wiechel: Yes, yes! Then it is the case that this provokes a very strong
influx of calcium into the cell at a cellular level in our body.
The moment too much calcium enters the body, a so-called nitric oxide is produced, which is physiological.
But if too much nitric oxide is produced, due to the excess calcium influx, then a superoxide is formed
from this compound with the calcium and the nitric oxide.
And this superoxide combines to form peroxynitrite.
This is what we measure. We measure this so-called nitrosative stress.
In other words, the small cell, which is like its own organism, of which we have 700 trillion, is now under enormous
pressure from so-called nitrosative and oxidative stress.
Because the end is, this peroxynitrite is a real, aggressive free radical.
Dr. Petra Wiechel: And the average consumer knows that high levels of antioxidants every day, these free radicals need to be
buffered, because that is one of the reasons why the body degenerates, why it ages faster, why the cell metabolism and
thus the cell energy metabolism can no longer be maintained.
Without energy, no performance. Without energy, no life.
In other words, at the moment when the so-called energy power plants of this cell are no longer able to produce
sufficient energy - I don't know if you know how many of these small power plants we have per cell?
Moderator: I don't know now, but can you tell me?
Dr. Petra Wiechel: That's about a thousand!
Moderator: Wow, that's a lot. Like little power stations in the cells.
Dr. Petra Wiechel: Exactly, but these are the life force plants and they are now having a disruptive effect on them.
And I asked myself for twenty years, for example: Why don't we actually have cancer of the heart?
The heart has 4,000 mitochondria.
The female egg cell has 30,000 mitochondria.
So this is how nature has invested: Where does it endow whom with a certain capacity for survival?
If you take the sperm - the sperm has a tail, so that I can get to where I'm needed at speed - then the
mitochondria in the sperm are at the back of the tail.
But if they have the cell phone in their pocket, then these mitochondria are destroyed in the sperm and that's why so many
young men are infertile (infertile), because of course they are all just lame ducks and they don't pass through this corridor
at all, at least not under their own power and momentum.
But of course these are the things that we always measure here in the clinic today, yes.
And where I simply have to say, frighteningly enough, with a clientele of people who naturally say today: "I can no longer
concentrate", "My sleeping is terrible", "I have developed MS (multiple sclerosis)...". People are no longer
forty - they are twenty-seven! Young! Autoimmune diseases!
These are all things that we can also measure in the laboratory - we can't measure the
radiation, but we can measure the consequences.
These are really classic things, along with many, many others.
This is oxidative stress and nitrosative stress.
But these are also things that then trigger a chronic - or silent - inflammatory process.
Moderator: What does that mean exactly?
Dr. Petra Wiechel: Inflammation, inflammation!
In other words, we can measure a highly sensitive factor that tells us: I'm actually fine, but the
sensitive factor tells me that chronic inflammation is nevertheless developing - it's in you.
And this inflammation is of course also responsible on a destructive level.
Every chronic inflammation causes cell scars and has a destructive effect.
While an acute inflammation is of course also treated somewhat acutely and makes a lot of sense.
And this is significantly triggered, forced and fueled by external exposure to this electrosmog.
And I think they are accelerants that we are seeing today because people are getting younger and younger.
Disease patterns that we used to see much later are becoming reality much earlier.
And, of course, in the first problem area, we also have the power to influence these things in terms of investigation.
The third is that it has an influence on our autonomic nervous system.
We are controlled autonomously.
Our so-called autonomic nervous system controls us 95% unconsciously, yes.
What I think triggers a reaction in me.
But my unconscious nervous system controls all regulatory processes. And the body never makes a mistake.
The body always does what you need it to do.
It will serve you as long as you live.
However, he would not do anything to harm or weaken you now.
The body alone does not do it.
But if I am now exposed to these chronic stresses, then this stress triggers a constant attack on it
(the body) and it responds with the stress cascade.
This is a mode that you switch on unconsciously.
And at that moment, their regeneration performance goes down because they can't provide the energy for it now.
That's why it's important to understand this.
Because restlessness, nervousness, concentration problems etc. arise from this permanent mode, which takes on a life of its own.
They say: "First comes misinformation.
The misinformation slowly develops into dysregulation, and at some point it becomes a malfunction."
Bang! And then I realize: "Hey, what's wrong with me, why am my heart racing all of a sudden?" and, and, and.
Yes, and the fourth aspect that makes me really, really sad and also burdens me is this: The impact on our own immunity.
Our body really never makes a mistake.
It adjusts its immune defense, its strength, to what it has to correct for us every day.
We carry out examinations under the microscope at this clinic. We look at the blood.
We have this patient's blood. We had seen test subjects, a number X.
And we have seen that the red blood cells with a very nice, great activity there ... Presenter: Quite alive!
Dr. Petra Wiechel:... Yes, these are the oxygen carriers, they are highly dynamic.
So they can get into the smallest capillary and supply the cell.
The white cells are the first line of the immune defense. They must therefore be available first and in
sufficient numbers when an infection or inflammation occurs.
They clear it up, they clean it up. This is called "phagocytosis".
They then digest this microbiotic material.
And we also observed this blood under the microscope and took it via the vein.
And then we put it in a room where there was WLAN radiation for an hour. Sixty minutes.
And then we looked at the blood of all these test subjects under the microscope again and also sent the other part of the blood to
a laboratory, which was now supposed to tell us: What is going on with the leukocytes (white blood cells) after this radiation?
And it was so interesting because the microscopic view alone showed that they have completely lost their flexibility.
So they were in such a state of rigidity.
This means that, on the one hand, the infection can now multiply rapidly.
On the other hand, we then obtained a really significant clinical evaluation showing that almost 90 percent of these
submitted samples were subject to very high oxidative stress and therefore naturally shut down in their function.
And that is something where I say: it is so irresponsible how we deal with it.
That's the only thing we have to watch out for now: that we reduce the dosages as much as possible, that we turn
off our cell phones as much as possible, that we... etc.
That means: "It does something to us." We doctors know that.
This can be proven, one hundred percent. There are thousands of studies.
There are incredibly frightening studies in the development of eye tumors, which I would say are already the basis for this.
I have to say myself that I have never seen such a strong development in lymphatic diseases in particular
- Neck, lymph nodes ... Moderator: Lymphatic, what does that mean?
Dr. Petra Wiechel: ... Yes, that's what it's called: lymph gland cancer; these are all diseases
that are - brain tumors, eye tumors - they just grew.
And I think it is more than necessary for us to look at the causes today and not believe that we
can solve everything with an even better therapy.
Moderator: Yes, okay. Yes, thank you, thank you Petra.
Ulf, you have also taken many measures in your clinic to reduce radiation.
What exactly are these measures and what other measures are you planning for the future?
Ulf Wiechel: Yes, we've been here since August 1, 2008, and at that time there wasn't
as much understanding among the population.
People were happy to have a cell phone and they wanted satellite reception, UMTS, and they wanted to be reachable all the time.
And it's not just high-frequency radiation, it's also low-frequency radiation.
Moderator: Yes, from lines etc.
Ulf Wiechel: We first had to work out and experience certain things here at this location:
What is possible here, what is not possible here?
In the kitchen, for example, we discovered that microwaves were still being used there in 2008.
That was the first thing we removed.
The easiest thing to do was to simply take them away.
Not to give away, because you don't give away something bad, something harmful. So it has been disposed of.
Then times changed a bit.
And we then had the opportunity to get our own fiber optic cable from Swisscom.
Moderator: You've never had WLAN?
Ulf Wiechel: We had WLAN at the very beginning, through our previous owners.
We then simply removed it from the outset.
And we have always asked patients not to use the mobiles.
And we didn't implement it consistently at the beginning because we didn't have fast Internet.
There are also patients who have been here longer who need this.
But we also became aware of this during a visit to America, to a friend, a doctor friend, where it was written
on the door: "Mobile ban, and if you don't follow this, I will expel you from the house."
That gave me courage. Why can't I do the same?
Then we came back and issued a mobile ban.
And lo and behold, it worked.
Of course - when we arrived, there were DECT telephones - we disposed of them immediately.
Our entire computer systems - so there are no wireless mice, no wireless keyboards, because they are all Bluetooth sources.
Then, all our medical devices are all without Bluetooth, are all hardwired.
This is what we can do directly!
Then, of course, we also have the external load.
This means that there is also one station here in the region that serves everyone, one station.
And then, of course, we have to protect ourselves by not letting the radiation into the house.
Moderator: Good, yes. Let's take another look at this later, the measures.
Moderator: Petra, I wanted to ask you: What changes do you notice in the patients when
they come to you in a low-radiation environment?
Dr. Petra Wiechel: These are people who sometimes come with a very high level of sensitivity.
These are people who don't even know that this has significantly worsened their symptoms in their lives
and they actually give us feedback again and again.
But what's really nice and what I generally regret is that we no longer trust the body to bring everything back
into balance itself as soon as it is relieved of this burden.
And that is something that we also feel very strongly with patients when they are here.
So, I don't want everyone to feel comfortable here straight away, but at least you're starting a positive process.
And, we are sitting here in our wonderful restaurant.
We also have a highly organic kitchen here.
We are gluten-free. We work without cow's milk, without sugar. It's everything!
It's not just this radio-free being here that gives the body a certain regenerative power, and we observe this very strongly.
It is extremely valuable in a process that is taking place here, even though I am not even aware of it.
Because how much I can no longer perceive in everyday life.
What is it actually - it's always everything!
Moderator: Yes, I understand. And what advice do you give patients when they leave the clinic?
Shall we say in relation to radiation exposure at home or in everyday life?
And how can people protect themselves from radiation?
Dr. Petra Wiechel: I decide where I live and how I live.
And, exposure to radiation can trigger and intensify internal derailment.
So for me that means: where do I start by simply reducing?
In other words, I can use the free power switch - I can switch off my WLAN one hundred percent at night.
So, these are things that I can perhaps convert/retrofit for myself and say to long conversations:
You, we're on the landline tonight.
So, either turning this phone off; putting this phone on airplane mode; not carrying this phone on my body at all.
To have it in a packed box; to use it when I need it. But, for God's sake, not here in my breast pocket!
Please, for God's sake, not here on the side towards the testicles!
And, above all, as little as possible.
Sleeping with a canopy at night when I have the cell tower in front of me, or wifi up/down.
Moderator: Good. Then one last question for both of you:
What else would you like to see for the future of the Swiss Mountain Clinic?
Ulf Wiechel: Well, of course we hope that we will thrive economically, that we will also have a good background, that we
will be able to develop the clinic over the next few years, that we will perhaps receive more recognition from the health
insurance companies in the future - especially from Switzerland.
Because, of course, foreign patients know that they have to pay for the services privately.
In the case of Swiss patients, it often hurts me when I read that the benefits are not
recognized and that they are being shirked.
Yes, that would be my goal, or simply my wish.
Dr. Petra Wiechel: Yes, I would like it to develop more and more into a place that is not even there for people who are
ill, but rather I would like to be someone who protects them.
Moderator: So healthy people are also coming?
Dr. Petra Wiechel: Of course. So this idea of preservation, of not slipping quietly into something tomorrow
just because I act in my knowledge, in my unconscious and don't even recognize the danger.
And prevention is not prevention, but prevention is care. And care needs knowledge.
And that would be my big wish, because the next generation is already behind us, that the project will continue.
And there will always be a small place somewhere that - I would say - allows us to have a very direct and intimate relationship
with these patients, so that everyone knows that they are never victims, victims of their illness, victims of their time, victims
of their lives, but that they have the power to do and change something at any time
and at any hour. And they can learn to do so.
Moderator: Great! Yes, thank you very much for the interview.
We wish you every success with your Swiss Mountain Clinic project and we can really feel
your heart in the matter. Thank you very much.
Ulf Wiechel: Thank you. Dr. Petra Wiechel: Thank you.
Ulf Wiechel: Shall we have a look then? I already wanted to show you a bit
... Moderator: Yes, gladly! Let's take a look at this.
Tour: Ulf Wiechel: Okay. Here we are in front of our "funk hole cabin", I always say.
And then we go in here
... Moderator: Now I'm curious!
Ulf Wiechel: ... exactly! And then I also close the door. And before that, of course, I asked all the patients to turn off
their cell phones for the last time. And, if they still have it with them - well, most of them don't have it
yet. Some of them look again and know that they've been caught and then leave it alone.
And it's also the case that when they come in here, you can feel the silence of this room.
We have deactivated all the power lines here.
So there are only 12 volt lines and no electrical smog, no radiation.
And we shielded this room with metal wallpaper, all the way through the walls and ceiling - these have to be earthed, of
course - and then put up more carbon wallpaper. So we've basically built a Faraday cage here, which the patients can now use.
This is also a reminder to patients that they can protect themselves, yes!
We want to show patients, we don't want to say: Throw away your cell phone!
We want to tell him: Use your cell phone when you need it!
We are now here in the newly designed therapeutic, medical area.
And we have expanded.
Here you can already see the central point - so we have done all the lighting design here with 12 volt cables.
We have the transformer in the electrical installation room so that it doesn't get in the way.
We have all other cables with shielded cables.
These are clay plaster walls.
The substrate here is concrete. We applied 3.5 to 4 cm of clay plaster in several layers.
This is clay enriched with fermented carbon, shavings, hemp plants, then Swiss stone pine shavings and porcelain ceramics.
This creates its own microclimate. So we don't need air conditioning. We don't need heating here
because it is both moisture-regulating, heat-regulating and antistatic. So it's brilliant, yes.
Ulf Wiechel: Then we have the new treatment room here. We have networked each workstation with its own Internet socket.
Each workstation has its own light.
And we invested with Swisscom three or four years ago. We had our own fiber optic cable installed from Grono to our premises.
Ulf Wiechel: That was also a very large investment. But we had to get away from WLAN. We had to
get away from satellite reception for the Internet.
We need Internet, fast Internet.
We have an international audience.
And that's when we decided to equip all the rooms with fiber optic cable.
So, these are three certified zero-electrosmog rooms.
Ulf Wiechel: We now have a network decoupler here, practically at every bed in these rooms, and all the
light and power supply in the room is taken care of.
And the patient is then no longer exposed to low frequencies at all.
So, we have no high frequencies and no low frequencies.
And these rooms are now also completely covered with metal wallpaper - which of course has to be wallpapered over or
painted because it's just not nice - which is also earthed.
These rooms have completely screened curtains.
These are silver curtains that have a silver thread in them and are also earthed.
So, this actually provides one hundred percent protection.
On this side we have - we also have this in all the other rooms - because in the rooms that are not one hundred percent shielded,
but we have glued a carbon wallpaper on the west side of the house, double glued, so that the seams are
also overlapped and because the transmitter, the radio transmitter comes from the west.
And so there is practically always a fault.
We interrupt the reception and the patients practically have a greatly reduced exposure
to electrosmog in the other rooms as well.
Of course, patients always ask me: "How can I protect myself at home?"
This canopy protects me one hundred percent.
So then I'm completely protected during my regeneration phase - during sleep, which is
actually the most important phase of the day.
And that is also something you can pack in your suitcase and take with you.
Yes, these are our measures: Fiber optic cable, WLAN ban, mobile ban.
Moderator: No cell phones. Ulf Wiechel: No cell phones, exactly.
Yes, I think that's what you can do.
If you are conscious, then you just do it.
Moderator: Thank you very much for this tour, it was really exciting and interesting.
Ulf Wiechel: Yes, thank you! With pleasure. Moderator: Thank you!