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Swiss Mountain Clinic – Sebaka se se nang mahlaseli bakeng
sa batho ba angoang habonolo ke mahlaseli a mehala ea thekeng

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Re mona Tleliniking ea Lithaba ea Switzerland.

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E fumaneha Castaneda, Graubünden, haufi le moeli oa Italy.

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Swiss Mountain Clinic ke setsi sa machaba sa
bokgabane bakeng sa meriana ya taolo le ya sesosa.

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E laolwa ke Ulf Wiechel le mosadi wa hae Ngaka Petra Wiechel.

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Ba entse tliliniki hore e be e se nang
mahlaseli ka hohle kamoo ho ka khonehang.

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Fumana hore na ke eng se ba susumelitseng le hore
na ke mehato efe eo ba e nkileng ho fokotsa

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mahlaseli potolohong e latelang le Ulf le Petra Wiechel.

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Motsamaisi: E, ke leboha haholo ka ho re
lumella ho le etela le ka ho araba lipotso tse

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'maloa mabapi le morero oa lona o khahlang.

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Empa ha re qaleng qalong.

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Mohlomong o ka re hlalosetsa ka bokgutshwanyane: Hantle-ntle
Swiss Mountain Clinic ke eng? Pono ya hao ka yona ke efe?

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Sepheo le morero oa Swiss Mountain Clinic ke ofe?

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Ulf Wiechel: E, ha ke ka araba, Stephan.

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Kliniki ea Swiss Mountain e na le moetlo oa
lilemo tse 33 sebakeng sena, Al Ronc, Castaneda, oo

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re ikutloang re ikemiselitse ho o phethahatsa.

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Mme Adele Duttweiler ya hlollang, mosadi wa "Dutti", ya thehileng
Migros mehleng eo – batho ba Switzerland ba tseba pale ena hantle

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– o ile a bula motheo ona kapa tleliniki ena e le
moaho ka 1987, ho tlotla ngaka ya hae, e mo

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folisitseng ka thuso ya mekgwa ya phekolo ya tlhaho.

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Ha e le hantle, e ne e le mokhoa oa bona oa ho leboha.

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Mme ka nako eo, o ile a fana ka taelo ya hore batho ba
Switzerland ba be le sebaka kamehla moo mekgwa ya phodiso ya

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tlhaho e sebediswang le ho tsamaiswa ka mokgwa o tsitsitseng.

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Petra le nna re ikemiseditse mosebetsing ona.

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Ha re sa na litšebelisano tsa lichelete le Motheo oa Migros.

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Jwale re beng ba boraro nalaneng ya moaho ona ho tloha
ka 2011, mme, jwalo ka ha ke boletse, re ipehetse sepheo

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sa ho hlompha batho ba tummeng ba thehileng sebaka sena.

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Ke ntho e le 'ngoe.

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Taba e 'ngoe ke hore, ehlile, mehla e fapane
kajeno ho feta kamoo e neng e le kateng

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mehleng eo, 'me joale re nahana ka lefats'e lohle.

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Ke ka lebaka lena Swiss Mountain Clinic e fetohileng setsi sa
machaba sa meriana e laolang le e shebaneng le sesosa sa mafu.

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Mme re ikutlwa re ikemiseditse ho sena ka ho sebedisa ka ho sa
kgaotseng menyetla e fanoang ke sebaka sena, menyetla e fanoang

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ke meriana, menyetla eo Petra a e sebedisang ka tsela e sebetsang,
hape le menyetla e fanoang ke bareki ba rona ba matjhaba.

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Hona joale re na le bakuli ba tsoang
linaheng tse fetang mashome a supileng.

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Mme ba tla mona hobane sebaka sena se na le
dintlha tse ngata haholo tse ikgethang tse se rekisang.

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Mme ba tla feela ka dikeletso, ho
tloha ho mokudi ho ya ho e mong.

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Ha ho na papatso ka morao ho sona, ka tsela eo.

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Molaoli: Ho a khahla, ho a khahla!

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Petra, o ile oa elelloa kotsi ea mehala ea letsoho joang?

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Mme o bona dikotsi jwang?

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Dr. Petra Wiechel: Haeba o sebetsa hodima motheo wa hore
bokulo ha se boemo, empa ke tshebetso, o leka ho utlwisisa

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hore na ke ditshebetso dife tse hlokahalang hore bo hlahelle.

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Kahoo, bophelo bo botle bo amana le
lintho tse ngata, ho kenyeletsa le ho kula.

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Mme ha o le tseleng ena, pono ya hao ka mabaka ana kaofela ha
se hakaalo hore e ba pharaletseng, empa e hlile e ba tebileng.

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Mme, ehlile, motho o se a ile a tsepamisa maikutlo ho
sohle se ka bang bohlokwa e le sesosa sa bokulo ntlheng ena.

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Mme ena ke ntshetsopele eo e seng e
re tshwere ka dilemo tse ngata jwale.

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Re se re kile ra bona sena ha mehala ea
letsoho e qala ho ba teng 'marakeng ka 1993.

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Kahoo bana ba ne ba se na mehala ea letsoho.

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Motsamaisi: U potlakile haholo ho kenela.

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Ngaka Petra Wiechel: E, ho ne ho se na mohala oa
letsoho ka koloing, ho ne ho na le antenna ea

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kantle/sesebelisoa sa ho bua o sa tšoara mohala feela.

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Ho tloha qalong, tsena e ne e le liketso tse tsitsitseng haholo,
tseo mohlomong le rona re ithutileng tsona ka nako eo, ka tsebo

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le ka kutloisiso, hore lintho tsena ha li etsoe ka tsela ena.

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Mme temoho ena e ntse e le teng le kajeno, hore
re hlile re bona "mobile" e le ntho ya

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bohlokwa haholo, empa bakeng sa maemo a tshohanyetso.

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Molaoli: Bakeng sa maemo a tšohanyetso, ho lokile. E.

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Ho lokile, na o ka hlalosa likotsi tsa
bophelo bo botle ho latela pono ea hau?

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Ngaka Petra Wiechel: E, o tlameha ho sheba taba ka
bophara, hobane kajeno kutloisiso ea rona ea bokulo e

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le – ha ke tsebe hore na nka re – e le e sa tebang.

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Sena se bolela hore re sebetsana le boemo ba matšoao
ka nepo e tšoanang le ea maekorosekoupo ea elekettrone.

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Empa bophelo bo etsahala maemong a fapaneng ka ho feletseng.

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Mme batho ka bo bona ke mehlala ya boikgapo
bo boholo ka ho fetisisa, bo phethahetseng.

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Jwale, sebopuwa sa motho se teetswe hare ke masimo.

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Tsena ke masimo a bokahohle; ho na le masimo a motlakase, ho
na le masimo a makenete, mme ho na le le masimo a makenete.

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Tsena le tsona ke lintho tseo re lokelang ho li nka li
le bohlokoa haholo: li-biophoton, khanya, khanya ea UV.

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Hantle, bophelo ha bo kgonehe ntle le tsena tsohle.

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Mmele o dula o le mofutheng o tswelang pele.

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Sena se bolela hore ha re nka mahlaseli ana a maqhubu a
phahameng, kapa masimo ana a motlakase le makenete, a hlahisoang

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eseng ke Wi-Fi feela, empa hape le ke mehala ea DECT le
likhomphutha, lisebelisoa tsohle tsa motlakase,

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li-baby monitor, joalo-joalo, joale sena ke kakaretso
ea matla e leng hape e amang 'mele ea rona ka tlhaho.

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Mme jwale, ka mahlaseli a motlakase le makenete kapa
maqhubu ana a phahameng a otlang, ntho ya pele ya bohlokwa ke

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hore: "Tekanyo e etsa chefo," jwalo ka ha Paracelsus a boletse.

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Mamello ea ka e ka khoneha ruri bakeng
sa ntho e itseng, leha e le hona joale.

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Mme kotsi e teng hantle moo: ha re e
nkge, ha re e utlwe, ha re e hlokomele.

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Le rona ha re e hlokomele nako e telele haholo. Empa e re ama.

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Motsamaisi: E a re fetola. Ngaka Petra Wiechel: Mme neng kapa
neng ha mahlaseli ana a re fihlela – mme ehlile ke taba ya hore

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na ke sebedisa mohala wa ka wa letsoho bakeng sa mohala o
mokgutshwane kapa bakeng sa puisano e telele, hore

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na ke sebedisa Wi-Fi dihora tse mashome a mabedi a
metso e mene ka letsatsi, jwalo-jwalo le jwalo-jwalo...

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Molaoli: Kapa ka headset kapa ntle le eona.
Ngaka Petra Wiechel: E, e! Ebe e baka phallo e matla

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haholo ea khalsiamo liseleng tsa 'mele oa rona.

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Ha khalase e ngata e kena 'meleng, ho hlahisoa ntho
e bitsoang nitric oxide; ena ke ts'ebetso ea 'mele.

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Empa haeba ho hlahisoa nitric oxide e ngata haholo ka
lebaka la ho kena ho hoholo ha calcium, joale

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motsoako ona oa calcium le nitric oxide o etsa superoxide.

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Superoxide ena e kopana ho etsa peroxynitrite.

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Rea e lekanya. Rea lekanya seo ho
thoeng ke khatello ea nitrosative.

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Seo se bolela hore sele e nyenyane, e leng bophelo bo ikemetseng
ka bo bona, eo re nang le tsona tse 700-trilione,

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joale e tlas'a khatello e kholo haholo e bakoang ke seo
ho tsejoang e le khatello ea nitrosative le oxidative.

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Hobane qetellong, peroxynitrite ke
radical e lokolohileng ea sebele le e kotsi.

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Ngaka Petra Wiechel: Mme mosebedisi ya tlwaelehileng o a tseba
hore ka ho sebedisa di-antioxidant tse ngata letsatsi le

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letsatsi, di-free radical tsena di tlameha ho laolwa, hobane ke e
nngwe ya mabaka a ho senyeha ha mmele, a ho tsofala ha

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ona ka potlako, a ts'ebetso ya disele mme ka hona
ts'ebetso ya matla a disele e se e sa kgone ho tswelapele.

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Ntle le matla, ha ho na tshebetso.
Ntle le matla, ha ho na bophelo.

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Ka mantsoe a mang, ka nako eo diteishene tsa matla tse bitswang
tsa sele ena di seng di sa kgone ho hlahisa matla a

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lekaneng – ha ke tsebe hore na o a tseba hore na re na le
diteishene tse kae tse nyane tsa matla ka seleng ka nngwe?

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Molaoli: Ha ke tsebe, empa na o ka mpolella?

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Ngaka Petra Wiechel: Ke hoo e ka bang sekete!

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Molaodi: Ao, ke tse ngata haholo. Jwaloka
diteishene tse nyane tsa motlakase ka hare ho disele.

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Ngaka Petra Wiechel: Hantle-ntle, empa tsena ke matla a matla
a bophelo, 'me joale li na le tšusumetso e sitisang ho tsona.

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Mme ka dilemo tse mashome a mabedi, ka mohlala, ke
ile ka ipotsa: Hobaneng re sa tshware mofetshe wa pelo?

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Pelo e na le li-mitochondria tse 4,000.

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Sele ea lehe ea mosali e na le li-mitochondria tse 30,000.

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Kahoo tlhaho e tsetetse tjena: e fa
mang bokgoni bo itseng ba ho phela?

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Ha o nka peo ea botona – peo ea botona e na le mohatla, e le
hore e fihle kapele moo e hlokahalang teng – joale mitokhonatria

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e ka har'a peo ea botona, karolong e ka morao ea mohatla.

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Empa haeba ba na le mehala ea bona ea letsoho ka lipokothong,
li-mitochondria tsena li senyeha ka har'a peo ea bona ea botona,

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ke ka lebaka leo bahlankana ba bangata ba sa khoneng ho tsoala,
hobane ehlile kaofela ha bona ke makgopo 'me ha ba sa feta ka

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tseleng ena ho hang, bonyane eseng ka matla le lebelo la bona.

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Empa tseo, ehlile, ke lintho tseo re lulang
re li lekanya mona tleliniking kajeno, e.

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Mme ke tlameha ho bolela, ka tsela e tshosang, hore hara bareki
ba batho ba kajeno ba buang ka tlhaho hore: "Ha ke sa kgona ho

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tsepamisa mohopolo," "Boroko ba ka bo bobe haholo," "Ke se ke na
le MS (multiple sclerosis)..." Batho bana ha ba sa le

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dilemo tse mashome a mane – ba dilemo tse mashome a
mabedi a metso e supileng! Ba batjha! Malwetse a autoimmune!

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Tsena ke lintho tsohle tseo re ka li etsang le laboratori –
re ke ke ra lekanya mahlaseli, empa re ka lekanya litlamorao.

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Tsena ke lintho tsa khale tsa
'nete, har'a tse ling tse ngata-ngata.

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Hoo ke kgatello ya oksideishene le kgatello ya nitrosative.

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Empa tsena hape ke lintho tse bakang ho ruruha ho sa
foleng – kapa ho sa utloahaleng, joalokaha ho bitsoa.

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Molaoli: Hantle-ntle seo se bolela'ng?

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Ngaka Petra Wiechel: Ho ruruha, ho ruruha!

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Sena se bolela hore re ka lekanya sesupo se hlokolosi haholo se
re bolellang hore: Ha e le hantle ke phetse hantle,

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empa sesupo sena se hlokolosi se bontsha hore ho
ruruha ho sa foleng ho ntse ho hola – ho ka hare ho wena.

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Mme ho ruruga hona, ehlile, hape ke hona ho bakang tshenyo.

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Ho ruruha ho hong le ho hong ho sa foleng ho
baka mabali liseleng 'me ho na le phello e senyang.

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Leha ho ruruha ho hoholo ka tlhaho ho
hloka kalafo e matla mme ho utlwahala haholo.

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Mme sena se qholotswa haholo, se potlakiswa le ho
matlafatswa ke ho pepesehela kantle ho ts'enyo ena ya motlakase.

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Mme ke nahana hore seo re se bonang kajeno ke lintho tse
potlakisang, hobane batho ba ntse ba nna banyenyane le ho feta.

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Litšoantšo tsa bongaka tseo re neng re li bona
hamorao haholo li fetoha 'nete kapele haholo.

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Mme, ehlile, moo re nang le taolo hodima ditaba
tsena mabapi le dipatlisiso, re ka di susumetsa.

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Ntho ea boraro ke hore e na le tšusumetso
tsamaisong ea rona ea methapo e ikemetseng.

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Re laolwa ka boikemelo.

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Eo ho thoeng ke tsamaiso ea rona ea methapo e
ikemetseng, e re laola ka 95% re sa elelloe, e.

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Seo ke nahanang hore se tsosa karabelo ka ho 'na.

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Empa tsamaiso ya ka ya methapo e sa eleng kelello e laola
mekgwa yohle ya taolo. Mme mmele ha o etse phoso le ka mohla.

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Mmele o dula o etsa seo o hlokang hore o se etse.

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E tla o sebeletsa bophelo bohle ba hao.

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Leha ho le jwalo, ha a sa tla etsa letho le ka o
utlwisang bohloko kapa la o fokolisa hona jwale.

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Mmele o le mong ha o a lekana.

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Empa ha jwale ke pepesehetse ditekanelo tsena tse sa feleng,
jwale kgatello ena e qala tlhaselo e sa kgaotseng ho yena

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(mmele) mme o arabela ka letoto la ditlamorao tsa kgatello.

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Ona ke mokgwa oo o o kenyang tshebetsong o sa elellwe.

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Mme ka motsotso oo, bokgoni ba hae ba ho ipholisa bo a
fokotseha hobane le yena a ke ke a kgona ho fana ka matla a hoo.

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Ke ka lebaka leo ho leng bohlokoa ho utlwisisa sena.

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Hobane ho se phutholohe, letsoalo, mathata
a ho tsepamisa mohopolo, jj. li hlaha

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mokgweng ona wa kamehla, o iphelang ka boyona.

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Ba re: "Pele ho tla tlhahisoleseding e fosahetseng."

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Tlhahisoleseding e fosahetseng butle-butle e lebisa taolong e
fosahetseng, mme ka nako e 'ngoe e fetoha ts'ebetso e sa lokang.

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Bang! Ebe kea hlokomela: "Hee, ho phoqeha ka 'na, ke
hobane'ng ha pelo ea ka e otla ka lebelo tjee?" joalo-joalo.

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E, mme ntlha ya bone, e bileng e ntlhomolang
pelo haholo mme e nkgathatsa, ke ena:

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tshusumetso hodima boitshireletso ba mmele ya rona.

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Mmele wa rona ha o ka ke wa fosa le ka mohla.

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E lokisa ts'ireletso ea eona ea 'mele le matla a eona ho latela
seo e tlamehang ho re lokisetsa sona letsatsi le letsatsi.

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Re etsa tlhahlobo ka
maekorosekoupo tleliniking ena. Re sheba mali.

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Re na le mali a mokudi enwa. Re ne re bone ditekwa, palo X.

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Mme ra bona hore disele tse kgubedu tsa madi di ne di le
mafolofolo haholo moo... Motsamaisi: Di phelile haholo!

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Ngaka Petra Wiechel:… E, tsona ke tse
nkang oksijene, li fetoha-fetoha haholo.

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E le hore li ka kena le ka har'a methapo e
menyenyane ka ho fetisisa le ho fepa lisele.

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Lisele tse tšoeu tsa mali ke mola oa pele oa tšireletso
tsamaisong ea 'mele ea ho itšireletsa mafung. Ka

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hona, li tlameha ho fumaneha pele ebile ka bongata
bo lekaneng ha tšoaetso kapa ho ruruha ho hlaha.

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Ba e hloekisa, ba e hlwekisa. Sena se bitswa "phagocytosis".

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Ebe ba sila bohelehele bona ba likokoana-hloko.

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Re boetse ra hlahloba mali ana ka tlas'a
maekorosekoupu 'me ra a nka mothapong.

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Eaba re e beha ka phaposing e nang le mahlaseli a
Wi-Fi ka hora. Metsotso e mashome a tsheletseng.

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Eaba re boela ra sheba mali a batho bana bohle ba neng ba lekoa
tlas'a maekorosekoupo, 'me ra romela karolo e 'ngoe ea mali

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laboratoring, e neng e lokela ho re bolella
hore na ho etsahala'ng ka lisele tse tšoeu

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tsa mali (leukocytes) ka mor'a mahlaseli ana.

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Mme e ne e le ntho e kgahlang haholo hobane leha o ne o
sheba ka sebonela-bobotlana, ho ne ho bonahala hore ba

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ne ba lahlehetswe ke ho kobeha ha bona ka ho feletseng.

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Kahoo ba ne ba holofetse.

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Sena se bolela hore, ka lehlakoreng le
leng, tshwaetso e ka ata ka potlako.

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Ka lehlakoreng le leng, re ile ra fumana bopaki bo hlakileng ba
bongaka ba hore hoo e ka bang liperesente tse 90 tsa lisampole

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tsena tse ileng tsa hlahisoa li ne li le tlas'a
khatello e phahameng haholo ea oksaehene 'me ka

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lebaka leo li ne li se li emisitse ho sebetsa ka tlhaho.

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Mme ke ntho eo ke reng: ke bohlaswa bo
boholo kamoo re sebetsanang le yona.

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Ke sona feela seo re lokelang ho ba hlokolosi ka sona hona joale:
hore re fokotse litekanyetso ka hohle kamoo ho

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ka khonehang, hore re time liselefouno tsa rona
ka hohle kamoo ho ka khonehang, hore re... jj.

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Seo se bolela: "Ea re ama." Rona
litsebi tsa tsa bongaka rea tseba seo.

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Sena se ka pakoa ka botlalo. Ho na le liphuputso tse likete.

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Hape ho na le diphuputso tse ding tse
tshosang haholo – ha re re – tse seng di ntse di

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thehile kgolo ya dithurugo tsa mahlo kajeno.

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Ke tlameha ho ipolela hore ha ke eso bone ntshetsopele
e matla hakana, haholoholo mafung a methapo ya lymph.

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– Molala, ditho tsa lymph ...
Motsamaisi: Lymphatic, hoo ho bolelang?

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Ngaka Petra Wiechel: … E, ho lokile: mofetše oa
linoko tsa lymph; tsena kaofela ke mafu a – lihlahala tsa

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boko, lihlahala tsa mahlo – li mpa li holile feela.

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Ka hona, ke nahana hore ho bohlokwa haholo hore re
sebetsane le dibakwa kajeno, mme re se ke ra dumela hore re

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ka rarolla tsohle ka phekolo e ntlafetseng le ho feta.

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Motsamaisi: E, ho lokile. E, kea leboha, kea leboha, Petra.

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Ulf, o boetse o nkile mehato e mengata
ho fokotsa mahlaseli tleliniking ea hau.

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Mehato ena ke efe hantle, mme ke
efe eo le e reretšeng bokamosong?

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Ulf Wiechel: E, re bile mona ho tloha ka la 1 Phato 2008, mme
ka nako eo ho ne ho eso be le kutlwisiso e kalo hara setjhaba.

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Batho ba ne ba thabile ho ba le mohala oa
thekeng 'me ba batla hore o amohele maqhubu a

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sathelaete le UMTS, le hore o fumanehe ka linako tsohle.

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Mme ha se mahlaseli a maqhubu a phahameng
feela, empa hape ke mahlaseli a maqhubu a tlase.

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Molaoli: E, ho tsoa liphaepheng, jj.

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Ulf Wiechel: Re ile ra tlameha ho qala ka ho
lokisa lintho tse itseng mona, ra fumana hore na ke

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eng se ka etsahalang mona, le se sa ka etsahaleng.

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Mohlala, re ile ra fumana ka kichineng hore
li-microwave li ne li ntse li sebelisoa teng ka 2008.

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Eo e bile ntho ea pele eo re e tlositseng.

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Seo e ne e le ntho e bonolo ka ho
fetisisa ho e etsa, feela ho ba tlosa.

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Ha e lokela ho faneloa, hobane ha o fane ka
ntho e mpe, ntho e kotsi. Kahoo e lahliloe.

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Eaba dinako di fetoha hanyane.

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Mme ka mora moo ra fumana monyetla wa ho
fumana thapo ya rona ya fibre optic ka Swisscom.

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Molaodi: Ha o eso be le Wi-Fi?

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Ulf Wiechel: Re bile le Wi-Fi ho tloha
qalong, ka lebaka la beng ba rona ba pele.

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Re mpa feela ra e tlosa ho tloha qalong.

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Mme esale re kopa bakuli hore ba se
ke ba sebedisa mehala ya letsoho.

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Empa ha rea ka re e sebedisa ka mokgwa o tsitsitseng
qalong hobane re ne re eso be le inthanete e lebelo.

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Hape ho na le bakuli ba ntseng ba le
mona nako e telele le bona ba hlokang sena.

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Empa re ile ra hlokomela le ntho e 'ngoe nakong ea ketelo
Amerika, ha motsoalle oa rona, eo e leng ngaka, moo ho neng

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ho na le letšoao monyako le reng: "Ha ho mehala ea letsoho,
'me haeba le sa mamele, ke tla le kopa hore le tsoe ka tlung."

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Seo se ile sa mpha sebete. Hobaneng
le nna ke sa khone ho etsa jwalo?

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Eaba re kgutla mme ra beha thibelo mehala ya letsoho.

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Mme ka mohlolo, a sebetsa.

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Ha re fihla, ho ne ho e-na le mehala ea
DECT, ehlile, eo re ileng ra e lahla hang-hang.

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Lisebelisoa tsohle tsa rona tsa khomphutha –
kahoo ha ho na li-mouse kapa li-keyboard tse se nang

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mohala, hobane kaofela ke mehloli ea Bluetooth.

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Joale, lisebelisoa tsohle tsa rona tsa bongaka ha li
na Bluetooth, kaofela li na le khokahano e tsitsitseng.

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Ke seo re ka se etsang hang-hang!

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Ebe, ehlile, re boetse re na le moroalo o tsoang kantle.

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Kahoo, seo se bolela hore ho boetse ho na le setsi sa khaso
mona sebakeng sena se sebeletsang bohle, seteishene se le seng.

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Mme he, ehlile, re tlameha ho itšireletsa ka ho
se lumelle mahlaseli hore a kene malapeng a rona.

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Motsamaisi: Ho lokile, e. Ha re shebeng mehato hape hamorao.

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Motsamaisi: Petra, ke ne ke batla ho o botsa: Ke
liphetoho life tseo o li hlokomelang ho bakuli ha ba

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tla ho wena sebakeng se nang le mahlaseli a fokolang?

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Ngaka Petra Wiechel: Bana ke batho bao ka nako e
'ngoe ba tlang ba na le maikutlo a tebileng haholo.

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Bana ke batho ba sa lemohe ho hang hore sena se
mpefaditse matšoao a bona bophelong ka tsela e

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kholo, 'me ke bona ba re fang maikutlo khafetsa.

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Empa se hlileng se le setle, le seo ke hlileng ke ikoahlaelang
sona haholo, ke hore ha re sa tshepa mmele hore o itlhokomele

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le ho boelana hanghang ha o lokolohile kgatellong ena.

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Mme ke ntho eo le rona re e utlwang
ka matla ho bakudi ha ba le mona.

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Jwale, ha ke batle ho bolela hore bohle
ba tla ikutlwa ba phutholohile hanghang

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mona, empa bonyane re qala tshebetso e ntle.

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Mme ke mona, re dutse reschorenteng ya rona e ntle.

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Re boetse re na le kichine e nang le lijo tsa tlhaho haholo mona.

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Ha re sebedise gluten. Ha re sebedise
lebese la kgomo kapa tswekere. Ke phetho!

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Ha se tikoloho ena e se nang mahlaseli a
seea-le-moea feela e fang 'mele matla a itseng a

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ho ipholisa, ao re a bonang ka matla haholo.

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Ke bohlokoa haholo ts'ebetsong e etsahalang
mona, ntle le hore nna ke bile ke sa lemohe.

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Hobane ho na le lintho tse ngata haholo tseo ke seng ke
sa khone ho li bona bophelong ba letsatsi le letsatsi.

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Hona joale ke eng kannete – kamehla ke tsohle!

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Molaodi: E, ke a utlwisisa. Mme o fa
bakudi keletso efe ha ba tloha tleliniking?

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Na re bua ka ho pepesehela mahlaseli
lapeng kapa bophelong ba letsatsi le letsatsi?

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Mme batho ba ka itshireletsa jwang kgahlanong le mahlaseli?

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Ngaka Petra Wiechel: Ke 'na ke etsang qeto ea
hore na ke lula kae le hore na ke phela joang.

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Mme ho pepesehela mahlaseli ho ka qala le
ho matlafatsa ho putlama ha mmele ka hare.

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Kahoo ho 'na, seo se bolela: ke qala kae ho fokotsa?

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Sena se bolela hore nka sebedisa switjhi ya marangrang
ya mahala ho tima Wi-Fi ya ka ka ho feletseng bosiu.

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Kahoo, tsena ke lintho tseo mohlomong nka li fetolelang kapa tsa
li lokisetsa 'na, ebe kea li bua nakong ea lipuisano tse telele:

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Rona, re tla bua mohaleng oa lapeng bosiung bona.

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Kahoo, ka tsela e 'ngoe kapa e 'ngoe, tima mohala
ona oa thekeng; o behe mohala ona oa thekeng

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mokhoeng oa sefofane; u se ke oa o jara ho 'na ho hang.

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Ho e ba ka lebokoseng; ho e sebelisa ha ke e hloka. Empa, ka
lebaka la Molimo, eseng mona ka pokothong ea ka ea sefuba!

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Ka kopo, ka lebaka la Molimo, eseng
mona ka lehlakoreng le lebang matšongoa!

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Mme, ka hodima tsohle, ka bokgutshwane bo ka kgonehang.

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Ho robala tlas'a tente bosiu le mast ea
seea-le-moea ka pel'a ka, kapa Wi-Fi kaholimo/ka tlase.

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Motsamaisi: Hantle. Joale potso e le 'ngoe
ea ho qetela ho lona ka bobeli ho phethela:

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U ka rata ho bona eng hape bakeng sa
bokamoso ba Swiss Mountain Clinic?

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Ulf Wiechel: Hantle, ehlile, re lakatsa ho bona tleliniki e
atleha moruong e le hore re be le motheo o tiileng, re tsoele

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pele ho ntshetsa tleliniki pele lilemong tse 'maloa tse tlang,
mme mohlomong re fumane kananelo e kholoanyane ho

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tsoa ho lik'hamphani tsa inshorense ea bophelo
bo botle nakong e tlang – haholo-holo Switzerland.

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Hobane bakuli ba tsoang kantle ho naha baa tseba,
ehlile, hore ba tlameha ho lefella litšebeletso ka boikemelo.

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Ha ho tluwa ho bakudi ba Switzerland, hangata
ho ntlhaba ha ke bala hore ditopo tsa bona ha di

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ananelwe le hore batho ba leka ho qoba ho lefa.

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E, eo e ka ba sepheo sa ka, kapa feela takatso ea ka.

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Ngaka Petra Wiechel: E, nka thabela ho bona e ntse e hola
ho ba sebaka se seng e le sa batho ba kulang feela, empa

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ho e-na le hoo nka thabela ho ba motho ea ba sireletsang.

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Motsamaisi: Kahoo le batho ba phetseng hantle ba tla?

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Dr. Petra Wiechel: Ehlile. Kahoo mohopolo ona oa ho itšireletsa,
eseng ho kena butle-butle ho hong hosane

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feela hobane ke etsa ho latela tsebo ea ka,
kelello ea ka e ka hare, 'me ha ke elelloe kotsi.

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Mme ho ba hlokolosi ha se thibelo, empa ho ba
hlokolosi ke tlhokomelo. Mme tlhokomelo e hloka tsebo.

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Mme eo e ka ba takatso ya ka e kgolo ka ho fetisisa, hobane
moloko o latelang o se o re shebile, hore morero o tswele pele.

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Mme kamehla ho tla ba le sebaka se senyenyane kae-kae se – ha re
re – se o dumellang ho ba le kamano e tobileng haholo le e

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haufi-ufi le bakudi bana, e le hore bohle ba tsebe: ha se kamehla
e le bahlaselwa, bahlaselwa ba bokudi ba bona, bahlaselwa ba nako

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ya bona, bahlaselwa ba maphelo a bona, empa ho ena le hoo ba na
le matla nako e nngwe le e nngwe le ka hora efe kapa efe ho etsa

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ho hong le ho tlisa phetoho. Mme ke ntho eo ba ka e ithutang.

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Motsamaisi: Hantle haholo! Kea leboha haholo ka puisano ena.

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Re le lakaletsa katleho e kgolo morerong wa lona
wa Swiss Mountain Clinic; ho hlakile hore le rata

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seo le se etsang ka pelo yohle. Re a leboha haholo.

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Ulf Wiechel: Kea leboha. Dr. Petra Wiechel: Kea leboha.

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Ulf Wiechel: Ha re bone. Ke ne ke batla ho o bontsha hanyane.

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… Molaoli: E, ehlile! Ha re shebeng seo.

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Leeto: Ulf Wiechel: Ho lokile. Jwale re mona ka pela "ntlo ya
rona ya sebaka se shoeleng," jwalo ka ha ke dula ke e bitsa.

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Mme ka mora moo re tla kena mona.

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… Molaoli: Joale ke labalabela ho tseba!

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Ulf Wiechel: ... hantle-ntle! Mme ke koala lemati. Mme pele ho
moo, ehlile, ke kopa bakuli bohle ho tima mehala ea bona ea

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selefouno ka lekhetlo la ho qetela. Mme haeba ba ntse ba e tšoere
– hantle, boholo ba bona ha ba e-s'o e

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tšoare. E mong oa bona o boela o sheba hape 'me o
hlokomela hore o tšoeroe, kahoo o e tlohela.

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Hape ke nnete hore ha ba kena mona,
o ka utlwa kgutso ya phaposi ena.

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Re tima mehala yohle ya motlakase mona.

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Kahoo ho na le mehala ea 12-volt feela, 'me
ha ho na mosi oa motlakase kapa mahlaseli.

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Mme re sirelelitse phaposi ena ka pampiri ea tšepe, ra koahela
marako le siling ka botlalo – ehlile tsena li tlameha ho hokelloa

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fatše – eaba re kenya pampiri ea khabone
holimo. Ka bokhutšoanyane, re hahile k'heisi ea

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Faraday mona, eo bakuli joale ba ka e sebelisang.

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Hape ke kgopotso ho bakudi hore ba ka itshireletsa, e!

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Re batla ho bontša bakuli, ha re batle
ho re: Lahla fono ea hau ea selefouno!

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Re batla ho mmolella: Sebedisa
mohala wa hao wa letsoho ha o o hloka!

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Hona joale re fihla sebakeng se secha sa
phekolo ea bongaka se qapiloeng bocha.

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Mme re atolositse.

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Mona o ka bona sebaka se bohareng – re sebelisitse likhoele
tsa motlakase tsa 12-volt bakeng sa moralo oohle oa mabone mona.

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Re na le transformer ka phaposing ea kenyo ea
motlakase e le hore e se ke ea baka tšitiso.

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Re na le likheibole tse sirelelitsoeng
bakeng sa likheibole tse ling kaofela.

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Tsena ke mabota a polasetere ea letsopa.

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Mokato mona ke konkreite. Re ile ra tlotsa lera le
'maloa la seretse sa bolelele ba 3.5 ho isa ho 4 cm moo.

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Ona ke letsopa le nonneng ka khabone e
belisitsoeng, makgapetla a patsi, dimela tsa hemp,

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makgapetla a Swiss stone pine le dipitsa tsa porcelain.

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Sena se theha tlelaemete ea sona e nyenyane. Kahoo ha re hloke
moea o pholileng. Ha re hloke ho futhumatsa

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mona hobane se laola mongobo le mocheso,
hape se thibela statike. Kahoo se babatseha, e.

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Ulf Wiechel: Joale re na le kamore e ncha ea
kalafo mona. Re hokahantse seteishene se seng le se

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seng sa mosebetsi le sokete ea sona ea inthanete.

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Sebaka se seng le se seng sa mosebetsi se na le leseli la sona.

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Mme re ile ra tsetela le Swisscom dilemo tse tharo
kapa tse nne tse fetileng. Re ile ra kenya thapo ya rona

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ya fibre optic ho tloha Grono ho ya sebakeng sa rona.

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Ulf Wiechel: E ne e boetse e le letsete le leholo haholo.
Empa re ile ra tlameha ho tlohela Wi-Fi. Re ile ra

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tlameha ho tlohela kamohelo ea satellite bakeng sa inthanete.

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Re hloka inthanete, inthanete e lebelo.

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Re na le bamameli ba machaba.

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Ka hona ra etsa qeto ya ho hlomella
diphaposi tsohle ka dikgwele tsa fibre optic.

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Kahoo, tsena ke likamore tse tharo tse
netefalitsoeng tse se nang mosi oa motlakase.

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Ulf Wiechel: Hona joale re na le sehlahabi sa marang-rang mona,
hoo e ka bang betheng e 'ngoe le e 'ngoe

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likamoreng tsena, 'me seo se laola mabone ohle
le phepelo eohle ea motlakase ka phaposing.

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Mme mokudi o ba a lokolohile ka ho
feletseng mona tshekanelong ya maqhubu a tlase.

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Kahoo, ha re na maqhubu a phahameng kapa a tlase.

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Mme diphaposi tsena jwale le tsona di apesitswe ka ho feletseng
ka pampiri ya lebota ya tshepe – eo ehlile e lokelang

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ho kwalwa ka pampiri e ntjha ya lebota kapa pente,
hobane ha e kgahlehe – eo hape e hokahantsweng le lefatshe.

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Likamore tsena li na le likharetene
tse thibelang leseli ka ho feletseng.

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Tsena ke likharetene tsa silevera tse nang le
khoele ea silevera hape li hokahantsoe le fatše.

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Kahoo, seo ha e le hantle se fana ka tšireletso e feletseng mona.

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Leqepheng lena, re na le – jwalokaha re entse ka dikamoreng tse
ding kaofela – hobane ka dikamoreng tse sa sireletswang ka

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botlalo, re kgomareditse pampiri ya khabone leboteng le ka
bophirimela la ntlo, ra e kgomaretsa habedi

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hore metshetshe e kopane, mme hobane sefetisi,
sefetisi sa seea-le-moea, se tswa ka bophirimela.

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Ka hona, ho batla ho dula ho na le kgoreletso.

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Re kena-kenya kamanong, mme bakuli ba ka
dikamoreng tse ding le bona ba ba le boemo bo

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fokoditsweng haholo ba tshilafalo ya motlakase.

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Bakuli ka tlhaho ba nna ba mpotsa,
"Nka itshireletsa jwang lapeng?"

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Seetla sena se ntshireletsa ka botlalo.

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Kahoo, nakong ea ka ea ho ipholisa – ha ke robetse, e leng
karolo ea bohlokoahali ea letsatsi – ke sirelelitsoe ka botlalo.

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Mme hape ke ntho eo o ka e pakang ka
sutukheiseng ya hao mme wa tsamaya le yona.

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E, tsena ke litekanyo tsa rona: lithapo tsa
fibre optic, ha ho Wi-Fi, ha ho mehala ea letsoho.

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Molaoli: Ha ho mehala ea letsoho. Ulf
Wiechel: Ha ho mehala ea letsoho, hantle-ntle.

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Ee, ke nahana hore ke sona seo o ka se etsang.

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Haeba o elellwa, o mpa o e etsa feela.

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Motsamaisi: Ke leboha haholo ka leeto
lena, le ne le thabisa ebile le khahla haholo.

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Ulf Wiechel: E, kea leboha! Ke kamoo
ho leng kateng. Motsamaisi: Kea leboha!