Keeping opinions, information, statements and opinions behind the scenes will not achieve anything.
We have to be clear in what we say, we have to be courageous - I know that sometimes it is difficult to be courageous.
We have to be clear in what we say, we have to be
courageous - I know that sometimes it is difficult to be courageous.
And if I think that there is nothing good about a WHO pandemic treaty, but that it scares me and that I am afraid of a totalitarian surveillance state, that I don't
want an anonymous organization to determine my life, to determine the lives of my children, then I have to say that in the end - openly and honestly, with all the consequences.
And if I think that there is nothing good about a WHO pandemic treaty, but that it scares me and that I am afraid of a totalitarian surveillance state, that I don't want an anonymous organization to determine my life, to determine the lives of my children, then I have to say that in the end - openly and honestly, with all the consequences. Alexander Christ studied law, political science, philosophy and German studies in Augsburg.
Alexander Christ studied law, political science, philosophy and German studies in Augsburg. The lawyer now works in Berlin and has been committed to freedom, fundamental rights and democracy for decades.
The lawyer now works in Berlin and has been committed to freedom, fundamental rights and democracy for decades.
From the outset, the developments in connection with Corona caused him great concern that Germany might lose its rule of law.
From the outset, the developments in connection with Corona caused him great concern that Germany might lose its rule of law. He is also involved in the European citizens' initiative TRUST & FREEDOM, which was presented to the public in Brussels at the beginning of July.
He is also involved in the European citizens' initiative TRUST & FREEDOM, which was presented to the public in Brussels at the beginning of July.
Below you can see the exclusive interview that Kla.tv was able to conduct with Alexander Christ during the press conference in Brussels.
Below you can see the exclusive interview that Kla.tv was able to conduct with Alexander Christ during the press conference in Brussels. Yes, so I am Alexander Christ, lawyer from Berlin, lawyer for fundamental rights and democracy.
Yes, so I am Alexander Christ, lawyer from
Berlin, lawyer for fundamental rights and democracy.
Actually, I used to deal mainly with labor law, but today one has to pay attention to fundamental rights,
and I am a member of the Lawyers for Enlightenment in Germany, its press spokesman, board member, co-founder of
ZAAV, the center that deals with the clarification, reappraisal, legal prosecution and prevention of crimes against humanity.
Actually, I used to deal mainly with labor law, but today one has to pay attention to fundamental rights, and I am a member of the Lawyers for Enlightenment in Germany, its press spokesman, board member, co-founder of ZAAV, the center that deals with the clarification, reappraisal, legal prosecution and prevention of crimes against humanity.
And last weekend, we established an International Lawyers Association of human rights lawyers.
And yeah, so that kind of describes what I do.
I am a book author, I wrote the book Corona State, which was on the bestseller lists in the German-speaking world for several weeks.
And that actually describes what we are in at the moment, in a time that is moving towards totalitarianism.
And I would like to prevent that at all costs. And what do you expect from this day?
And what do you expect from this day? We are already at the end of this press conference and the debate that has taken place.
We are already at the end of this press conference and the debate that has taken place. How would you sum it up for yourself so far? What is your interim conclusion?
What is your interim conclusion? So today something has started, which is to continue as a citizens' movement.
There are seven initial signatories, so to speak, of a citizens' initiative. If we remember them under the name Seven Citizens, it might be a good thing.
If we remember them under the name Seven Citizens, it might be a good thing.
And this initiative, first and foremost, now wants to prevent a WHO pandemic treaty from coming into force, which is being negotiated at the moment.
We do not want a world health government that will determine the weal and woe of us all in the future.
We do not want a world health government that will determine the weal and woe of us all in the future. And this initiative also wants to prevent changes to the international health regulations.
And this initiative also wants to prevent changes to the international health regulations.
We do not want the WHO to be able to determine in the future when there is a pandemic, what you have to do as a citizen in such a pan-demic and when it ends.
We do not want the WHO to be able to determine in the future when there is a
pandemic, what you have to do as a citizen in such a pan-demic and when it ends.
This must remain in the self-determination of the people and this must not be left to an anonymous, not controlled, not democratically legitimized World Health
Organization, which has proven nothing else in recent times than that it is not at all capable of dealing with such pandemics and such situations.
Kla.tv: As far as this WHO pandemic treaty is concerned, I had the following experience just the other day.
I have written letters to a few politicians, members of the Bundestag from my constituency,
in which I have just made known my concerns, my worries about this contract.
I have written letters to a few politicians, members of the Bundestag from my constituency, in which I have just made known my concerns, my worries about this contract.
Among other things, exactly what you have just mentioned, that the sovereignty of the representatives elected by the people is actually taken away, to a non-elected institution that somehow acts very diffusely around there.
In the meantime, a few answers have already come back that these are actually unfounded fears, because it will
not be the case at all that the state or the Bundestag or anything else will somehow lose sovereignty.
You are a legal specialist and certainly know the details. What do you think about this statement?
What do you think about this statement? So this statement really, if it was made by members of parliament, shows a great ignorance of the facts.
So this statement really, if it was made by members of parliament, shows a great ignorance of the facts.
The WHO member states, which are almost all of them except for Lichtenstein, have committed themselves to implementing what the WHO will decide in the future.
The WHO member states, which are almost all of them except for Lichtenstein, have committed themselves to implementing what the WHO will decide in the future. And this WHO pandemic treaty, it now provides for a tightening.
And this WHO pandemic treaty, it now provides for a tightening.
He says that the WHO can, so to speak, force the member states to follow the rules through membership.
He says that the WHO can, so to speak, force the member states to follow the rules through membership. At the same time, of course, there will be a great deal of international pressure.
At the same time, of course, there will
be a great deal of international pressure.
If a member country were to say that we have heard that, we are a member, but we do not have to comply with
such an international treaty, then international pressure will probably create a situation in which a member state will not be able to avoid it.
If a member country were to say that we have heard that, we are a member, but we do not have to comply with such an international treaty, then international pressure will probably create a situation in which a member state will not be able to avoid it. The contract is very unambiguous in the current draft version.
The contract is very unambiguous in the current draft version. It states that WHO sets the rules and member states must follow them.
It states that WHO sets the rules and member states must follow them. Nowhere does it say anything about the possibility of reconsidering whether you want to do things a bit differently nationally, but it is very, very clear.
Nowhere does it say anything about the possibility of reconsidering whether you want to do things a bit differently nationally, but it is very, very clear.
And the WHO will also set up a special commission when this comes into force, which will
then also monitor the complete and timely implementation of these new regulations vis-à-vis the member states.
So there is nothing left for the jurist that
looks like national self-determination and that must not be.
You mentioned earlier that fundamental rights are a particular concern of
yours, and that you want to protect and defend them.
You mentioned earlier that fundamental rights are a particular concern of yours, and that you want to protect and defend them. What possibilities does the normal citizen have to stand up for his basic rights?
What possibilities does the normal citizen have to stand up for his basic rights? What is the obvious thing to do, or is there anything at all that can be done?
What is the obvious thing to do, or is there anything at all that can be done?
Yes, so the most important point is that citizens simply have to keep talking about their fundamental rights, that we have to keep these demands alive.
Yes, so the most important point is that citizens simply have to keep talking about their fundamental rights, that we have to keep these demands alive. Citizens must continue to take to the streets, express their opinions, obtain information.
Citizens must continue to take to the streets, express their opinions, obtain information.
Every individual can do that and this spreading of the word, in
English spread the word, that's just important that we all do that.
Every individual can do that and this spreading of the word, in
English spread the word, that's just important that we all do that.
We must continue to talk about things and not remain silent, because what these totalitarian-like organizations
would like is for no one to continue to talk about things, but to remain silent,
and once silence begins, and censorship prevails, then it's over with freedom of expression.
We must continue to talk about things and not remain silent, because what these totalitarian-like organizations would like is for no one to continue to talk about things, but to remain silent, and once silence begins, and censorship prevails, then it's over with freedom of expression. That means there is a clock ticking here. We have to pay attention every day that we defend freedom, fundamental rights and therefore we have to talk about it.
We have to pay attention every day that we defend freedom, fundamental rights and therefore we have to talk about it. This applies to every individual.
This applies to every individual. Talking about it sounds so easy for you, but in everyday life, in your own living environment, tensions can quickly arise.
Talking about it sounds so easy for you, but in everyday life, in your own living environment, tensions can quickly arise.
Do you have any impulses or thoughts on how the word, the information can
still be distributed, spread the word, but without forcing these tensions even further?
Do you have any impulses or thoughts on how the word, the information can still be distributed, spread the word, but without forcing these tensions even further? Do you have anything else to share there? So, from my point of view, non-violent communication is very important.
So, from my point of view,
non-violent communication is very important.
That means you have to try to understand the other person with arguments, of
course, but above all with empathy, and during the Corona period, I think we
all made the mistake of trying to convince people with arguments alone.
Sometimes that doesn't work because the other person's emotions get in the way. Perhaps also a question of self-respect.
Perhaps also a question of self-respect.
People who have already decided, for example, to have the first vaccination, will be difficult to dissuade from getting the second one.
We have all had this experience, because then you would have to admit that you may have made a mistake
with the first one, and that requires a great deal of mutual understanding and empathy for the other person.
We have all had this experience, because then you would have to admit that you may have made a mistake with the first one, and that requires a great deal of mutual understanding and empathy for the other person. In the end, however, there will be no other way than to say what you think openly and honestly.
In the end, however, there will be no other way than to say what you think openly and honestly.
Keeping opinions, information, statements and opinions to yourself will not achieve anything.
We must be clear in our statements, we must be courageous.
I know that sometimes it is difficult to be brave.
In my book, I have reported on many fates of this kind, where people then very quickly had personal disadvantages or where longstanding friendships,
even in the family, relationships have been broken because someone has just said very clearly what he thinks and I know what that means.
In my book, I have reported on many fates of this kind, where people then very quickly had personal disadvantages or where longstanding friendships,
even in the family, relationships have been broken because someone has just said very clearly what he thinks and I know what that means.
Nevertheless, it is important for our freedom that we talk about things and if I think that there is nothing good about a WHO pandemic treaty, but
that it scares me and that I am afraid of a totalitarian surveillance state, that I don't want an anonymous organization to determine my life, to determine
the lives of my children, then at the end of the day I just have to say that, openly and honestly with all the consequences.
Nevertheless, it is important for our freedom that we talk about things and if I think that there is nothing good about a WHO pandemic treaty, but that it scares me and that I am afraid of a totalitarian surveillance state, that I don't want an anonymous organization to determine my life, to determine the lives of my children, then at the end of the day I just have to say that, openly and honestly with all the consequences. These are clear words to conclude with.
These are clear words to conclude with.
Thank you very much, Mr. Christ. Do you have anything else on your mind that you would like to pass on to the people, especially in view of the situation that is somehow coming to a head, that you would like to pass on to our viewers?
Do you have anything else on your mind that you would like to pass on to the people, especially in view
of the situation that is somehow coming to a head, that you would like to pass on to our viewers?
Staying brave and reaching out to the people who are in the key positions, judges, administrators, people you meet somewhere during the
day in a normal situation, just reaching out and spreading the word that certain things are going in the wrong direction.
Staying brave and reaching out to the people who are in the key positions, judges, administrators, people you meet somewhere during the day in a normal situation, just reaching out and spreading the word that certain things are going in the wrong direction.
This will help all of us and this will also change the situation in the end.