Interviewer: Dr. Peter McCullough, it's good to see you again.
Thank you very much for this interview!
Dr. McCullough: Thank you very much.
The headline on the World Economic
Forum website reads: Annual Meeting in Davos 2024
- We are preparing for disease X.
This is something that seems to be led by our "favorite" Tedros Ghebreyesus.
They are talking about a new disease and really hyping it up.
Apparently, it is not only the WEF that is involved.
According to my research, the CFR (Council on Foreign Relations) also had
a conference at the beginning of the year at which this was discussed.
What do they want to achieve with this disease X?
What's going on here?
And what are we being prepared for?
Dr. McCullough: The term "Disease X" has been known in the
medical literature since 2017 due to original WHO publications.
Disease X is therefore not a real disease.
It is a theoretical threat.
Most discussions about Disease X at the World Economic
Forum, at the World Health Organization and among
researchers indicate that Disease X will be a
product of gain-of-function research.
It will come from a biosafety laboratory, like the SARS-CoV-2 virus;
due to some kind of security vulnerability or inability to keep the virus safe.
They are now talking quite openly about gain-of-function research, about making
a virus, bacterium or fungus more infectious, invasive and deadly.
Yes, how do you arrive at the 20-fold factor?
And why should it be so much more extreme this time?
Good question.
If they don't know what organism it is, how can
they know that it is 20 times more deadly?
These are the things we can't explain.
Why is gain-of-function research being discussed at the World Economic Forum?
Shouldn't they be more concerned about collateral, interest rates and economic issues?
Why do they also deal with biological threats and countermeasures?
Precisely because this is now big business.
We hear nothing about nuclear weapons or defense systems.
We hear all the time about biolabs creating biological threats
to harm the population - and then the countermeasures.
And there is so much money in these vaccines, monoclonal antibodies and therapeutics.
That is the reason why we hear about it.
The public is scared to death.
The whole world has contracted COVID-19.
She has just completed four miserable years.
And now a new threat on the horizon: man-made.
Interviewer: So you could say that fear is being stirred
up here; that it's a huge scare tactic?
It's a big scare tactic, just like ... If you look at what it was like with Covid.
I didn't pay that much attention to these developments.
Most people did not.
But in 2012, DARPA, the military's research unit, had the ADEPT P3 program on its website.
They developed messenger RNA to end pandemics in 60 days, they claimed.
That was in 2012, long before Operation Warp Speed.
The Johns Hopkins Bloomberg College of Public Health hosted a
widely publicized seminar in 2017 titled "SPARS Pandemic.
This was a planning meeting for a coronavirus pandemic.
They published two scientific articles on this.
And then 'Event 201' took place in the fall of 2019.
The Chinese Minister of Health came, our current Director of
National Intelligence, Avril Haines, and state senators were there.
And they were all planning for the coronavirus pandemic
before the pandemic was announced.
I did not attend any of these events.
None of them.
I knew nothing about them at the time.
When we were informed in January 2020 that a Covid-19 pandemic had broken out, I didn't
realize that there had been a total of 36 preparation and planning meetings for a pandemic.
- There are documents of 25 meetings, 6 were filmed.
They are all recorded in the book by Peter and Ginger Breggin (author
couple) entitled 'Covid-19 and the global predators'.
There is a historical timeline for planning and fighting the Covid-19 pandemic.
We even have the PREP Act, written by Congress and HHS in 2005, with
preparations and so-called countermeasures to combat pandemics.
So, disease X is not new as far as planning is concerned.
What I'm saying is that I didn't pay any attention to all
these preliminary reports about the COVID-19 pandemic.
So it caught me personally unawares as a citizen and as a doctor.
And I had to take action quickly when it was already running.
We are now proactively addressing this disease X.
How were you supposed to know?
I mean, some people knew, but not many.
Later I will mention a German who was somehow aware of all this in advance.
But when an event like 'Event 201' takes place, which is sponsored
by Gates, doesn't that get around in the literature?
Are there no information leaflets?
Who is invited and who is not?
Why shouldn't a good, solid doctor like you be made aware of this?
It was all there.
You can go to the US military's DARPA website.
They announced this mRNA program back in 2012.
The Johns Hopkins University website published an
80-page report on the SPARS pandemic meeting.
And when the pandemic arrived, they actually published two articles
in the medical literature saying: "We saw it coming.
So that was communicated quite openly.
We know the vaccine promoter Peter Hotez, who received scholarships from
the National Institute of Public Health at China's Fudan University in 2016 and 2017.
And for what?
For coronavirus biodefense projects.
It all happened.
I think the two biggest technical papers that I missed, which are very,
very important, were published by first author Vineet Menachery.
The main author is Ralph Baric.
They appeared in the journal 'Nature Medicine' in 2015 and in the
'Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences' in 2016.
They announced the development of a SARS-like virus 1 by the Wuhan Institute of Virology.
They actually declared that they had created the Covid-19 virus, the primordial
prototypical chimeric virus, and published it in the peer-reviewed literature.
They said it was gain-of-function research that
began before government funding stopped.
They said it was carried out in a
biosafety level 3 laboratory in Wuhan, China.
They thank Peter Daszak of the EcoHealth Alliance, who traveled back and forth hundreds
of times between the US and the Wuhan lab to communicate the plans to the Chinese.
And they thank Dr. Shi Zhengli, the 'Bat Lady', the lead researcher
in Wuhan, for conducting the experiments.
So everything has been disclosed.
Covid-19 is a US-Chinese creation.
Baric and his team will not publish the genetic code from these papers because it almost
certainly matches the Covid-19 virus that came from Wuhan exactly or almost exactly.
And I think we can say, in case there's any doubt, the
icing on the cake that you mentioned in a recent
interview is that three days after the official announcement
of COVID-19 in America... what was it? Which vaccine
manufacturer?
It was Moderna.
Moderna stands up and has the solution.
I mean, that was three days after it started.
Hey guys, how does that work?
Correct.
There have been articles in the technical literature, including by Stéphane Bancel, the head
of Moderna, which summarize at least 3 Moderna patents that could be used for Covid19 vaccines.
They had a material transfer agreement with the University of North
Carolina, Chapel Hill and Dr. Ralph Baric before the pandemic.
They probably brought the genetic code from
the University of North Carolina to Chapel Hill.
Bancel himself managed BioMérieux before joining Moderna.
And what does the French company BioMérieux do?
You are building the cultivation, the biosafety cultivation at the Wuhan Institute of Virology.
So Bancel knows the laboratory very well.
He worked together with the Chinese.
He moves to Moderna and then starts working on the Covid-19 vaccine.
Now Moderna thinks they have a claim to the vaccine, and they get the patent
first because they're suing Pfizer for copying the Covid-19 mRNA vaccine.
So everything fits together.
Unbelievable!
I just saw, well, this is an old post, but it was a Twitter post from Trump's daughter.
Ivanka, was it Ivanka?
Anyway, Trump's daughter, and she posts, "Listen,
everybody calm down.
We have a solution for this."
The article is from 2020.
And she talks about the invention of Moderna and that Moderna will release something.
That was shortly after it was announced that it was Covid.
Given all this information about what we knew before COVID-19,
the 26 events, all that is now focused on this 20 times
more deadly disease X, can we be pretty sure that the
same drama is being produced right now?
I think we can do that.
There are already peer-reviewed papers on disease X and the next pandemic.
Most experts believe that it is another viral
disease of the upper respiratory tract.
This is the only way to make the whole world sick.
It could be a different RNA virus that is closely related to COVID.
Or it could be others.
There is RSV, a modified form of it, which can make anyone ill.
But it will probably be a virus.
And we advise people to take measures now to be prepared.
Okay. I would like to mention a German doctor and researcher.
His name is Heiko Schöning.
Are you familiar with the name?
Yes.
He predicted in December 2018 that COVID would be upon us.
I quote: "A panic is coming in 2020 and Fuad El-Hibri's
company Emergent Biosolutions will be part of it".
That's exactly what happened. That was central.
And now it's supposed to be the company National Resilience, Christopher Darby.
And he mentioned other names.
But he predicts that it will be a bacteria-based pandemic
with bacteria that are resistant to antibiotics.
What about this possibility?
That is possible.
Sometimes, however, antibiotic combinations are also successful.
We have heard about Chinese pneumonia.
It turned out to be a macrolide-resistant mycoplasma pneumonia, which
could be treated with doxycycline (antibiotic) without any problems.
So that didn't really hurt.
Even bacterial threats such as anthrax can be easily treated with antibiotics.
So I think it's difficult to develop a bacterial
super pathogen and then spread it.
Infection through contact can be stopped
quickly by simply not having any contact.
So we would again have to assume that it is a respiratory bacterium that is transmitted in this way.
I think that is unlikely.
I think a virus is more likely.
But this doctor (Heiko Schöning) is very attentive.
Emergent BioSolutions is a biodefense
contractor based out of Baltimore.
It turned out that they had produced the AstraZeneca
and Janssen vaccines, the adenovirus vaccines.
Isn't that interesting?
Two companies have the same, similar vaccine.
It is produced by the same biosecurity company.
And Resilience is one of the main biosecurity companies for Moderna.
So we have learned that the pharmaceutical companies do not manufacture the products themselves.
They are mainly produced by biodefense contractors
who receive most of their money from governments.
Yes.
So what about the possibility that this next pandemic will be the same as the last one in
the sense of whatever they create in the lab
won't be a tenth as dangerous as they claim?
And no matter what solution they or anyone will offer, maybe it's best
to just live a healthy life and stay away from the proposed solutions?
That is true.
Survival of the fittest.
If there's a time to lose weight, to get fit, to get the best
health possible, it's now because we're constantly
bombarded with scaremongering, as you said, with these
threatening messages about various infectious diseases.
We are almost certainly dealing with a respiratory
disease because nothing else would spread.
Ebola would never spread around the world because it is transmitted through contact.
So it is quickly put to an end.
Even monkeypox; Surely you remember the national monkeypox.
It required an enormous amount of physical contact.
And so it was above all the intensive sexual contact
between gay and bisexual men that drove the spread.
So there was a man reported by the CDC who came from Africa.
He actually had the real monkeypox from an animal.
And he traveled to Atlanta.
He visited his friends.
He traveled to Dallas; He was on the move everywhere.
He has not infected a single person with it.
And finally someone said it was an unusual rash.
And they referred him to the medical center and he was given Tecovirimat, the treatment for that.
So I was on national television at the time, during that monkeypox scare.
I said, "Listen, this is not going to spread like COVID-19,
you know, even the Spanish flu, which had a huge mortality
rate, about 25% of the world got sick from it, the Spanish flu
virus itself was not the cause of the deaths.
In fact, it was secondary staphylococcal pneumonia.
It is therefore possible that the next threat itself is
not directly fatal, but the secondary disease could be.
And here, too, we now have antibiotics.
People should not die from the flu.
If they are treated correctly at an early stage, we have both antiviral agents
and the possibility of getting the secondary bacterial infection under control.
Good.
Finally, given that a large
part of pandemic preparedness planning involves vaccines,
shouldn't an important lesson from the COVID debacle be that
the pandemic preparedness agenda poses a greater threat
to humanity than the pandemics themselves?
It's true that with Covid-19, the vaccines were far more dangerous than the disease itself.
If you look at the US statistics, we have around 1.2 million COVID deaths.
According to the CDC, about 10% of these are actually recognized as primary COVID-19 deaths.
According to CDC estimates,
more than 18,000 Americans died as a result of the vaccine, about
1,150 on the same day and another 1,200 the next day.
And with a non-reporting factor of about 30, we're
at about 550,000 Americans who have died from the vaccine.
It is about four to five times more deadly to be vaccinated than simply to be infected.
Vaccines should therefore never be designed as a response to a pandemic.
That has never worked before.
It was a disaster with Covid.
The solution to pandemics is early treatment of high-risk patients.
Very good, Dr. McCullough, thank you very much for this interview!
It was great talking to you.
Thank you very much!