1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,842 Ho tsebahala hantle hore lipalo le dipalopalo ha di kgahlise bohle. 2 00:00:03,842 --> 00:00:07,667 Batho ba bangata ba thabela ho tlohella bokhanni ba ho bokella le ho hlahloba datha ho 3 00:00:07,667 --> 00:00:10,390 ditsebi, mme ba tshepe diphetho tse hlahisitsweng. 4 00:00:10,390 --> 00:00:13,503 Leha ho le jwalo, sena ha se kamehla e leng tsela e molemo ka ho fetisisa. 5 00:00:13,503 --> 00:00:17,033 Sena se bile jwalo, ka mohlala, ka dipalo tsa mafu tse phatlaladitsweng ke Ofisi ya 6 00:00:17,033 --> 00:00:20,076 Dipalopalo ya Federale nakong ya sewa sa coronavirus. 7 00:00:20,076 --> 00:00:25,373 Kaofela ha rona re bone kamoo Ofisi e ileng ea phatlalatsa sekhahla se phahameng haholo sa mafu a 8 00:00:25,373 --> 00:00:28,110 feteletseng kamora ho qhoma ha tlokotsi ka 2020. 9 00:00:28,110 --> 00:00:32,941 Ka tshehetso ya mecha ya phatlalatso, ho ne ho hlakile ho batho ba bangata: sewa se ntse se bolaea, mme mang 10 00:00:32,941 --> 00:00:36,030 kapa mang ya batlang ho itshireletsa o tlameha ho entwa. 11 00:00:36,030 --> 00:00:38,756 Tšabo e hlahisitsoeng e bile le katleho! 12 00:00:38,756 --> 00:00:43,769 Leha ho le jwalo, boemo bo tla fapana ka 2021 le 2022. 13 00:00:43,769 --> 00:00:46,583 Letsholo le leholo le ne le fihletse sepheo sa lona. 14 00:00:46,583 --> 00:00:49,783 Bongata bo boholo ba baahi bo ne bo entilwe. 15 00:00:49,783 --> 00:00:56,556 Ho latela lipolelo tsa semmuso, ka hona, ho ne ho se ho se na mefokolo e meng mabapi le sekhahla sa mafu. 16 00:00:56,556 --> 00:01:01,936 Leha ho le jwalo, jwalo ka ha setsebi sa tsa boitsebiso ba kgwebo Marcel Barz a boletse, ena ke leshano le pepeneneng. 17 00:01:01,936 --> 00:01:11,383 "Seo ke se bonang ho datha e tala mabapi le mafu se fapane ka ho feletseng le seo setjhaba se se nahanang," ho rialo Barz. 18 00:01:11,383 --> 00:01:16,543 Ka hloko e kholo, o ile a bapisa datha e tala mme a fihlela diqeto tse makatsang. 19 00:01:16,543 --> 00:01:23,963 O fumane hore, ho fapana le dipolelo tsa semmuso, ho ne ho se na lefu le feteletseng ka 2020. 20 00:01:23,963 --> 00:01:28,303 Hase feela hore batho ba bangata ka mokhoa o tšosang ba hlokahetse lilemong tse peli tse latelang, empa 21 00:01:28,303 --> 00:01:33,196 hape le palo e kholo ea basali le banna ba lilemong tse mahareng le tse nyenyane le eona e hlokahetse. 22 00:01:33,196 --> 00:01:40,876 Ka lekgetlo la pele, mekgwa ya mafu le yona e bontshitse mokgwa wa dipaka tsa selemo o sa tlwaelehang ho hang. 23 00:01:40,876 --> 00:01:47,486 Marcel Barz o senola liphoso tse makatsang tse entsoeng ke ba boholong ha ba sebetsana le lipalo tsa semmuso. 24 00:01:47,486 --> 00:01:51,473 Mongoli o ile a ipotsa hore na ho ka etsahala joang hore tlhahisoleseding ya setjhaba 25 00:01:51,473 --> 00:01:54,152 e fapane hakaalo le datha e sa lokiswang? 26 00:01:54,152 --> 00:02:03,398 Shebella pokello ea nehelano ea video hona joale: Sekhahla sa mafu ho datha e sa sebetsoang Mabapi le video ena... Datha ea 27 00:02:03,398 --> 00:02:12,870 semmuso e tsoang Ofising ea Lipalopalo ea Federale e bontša ka ho hlaka hore ho bile le mafu a fetang a tloaelehileng a likete 28 00:02:12,870 --> 00:02:19,560 Jeremane ka 2021 le 2022. Ho hobe le ho feta, ka lekhetlo la pele, keketseho e bonahalang 29 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:24,570 ea mafu e ama le lihlopha tsa batho ba bacha. 30 00:02:24,570 --> 00:02:31,516 Hobaneng ha re bona, re utloa kapa re bala letho ka sena mecheng ea litaba? Kotsi efe e bolaeang e hapile sechaba sa rona? Ofisi 31 00:02:31,516 --> 00:02:38,407 ea Lipalopalo ea Federale e Wiesbaden e phetha karolo efe? Puong ena, ke tla bontša lipalo-palo tsa semmuso tsa mafu le liphoso 32 00:02:38,407 --> 00:02:43,833 tse makatsang tseo ba boholong ba rona ba li etsang ha ba phatlalatsa lipalo tsena. Rona baahi ha re 33 00:02:43,833 --> 00:02:50,063 fuoe tlhahisoleseding e tšepahalang mabapi le mafu. (Marcel Barz (Jüterbog, 20 Pulungoana 2023)) 34 00:02:50,063 --> 00:02:55,080 Lebitso la ka ke Marcel Barz, ke lilemo li 48. Ke tsoa sebakeng sa Berlin, kapa ho 35 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:58,416 nepahala haholoanyane, toropong e nyane ea Jüterbog. 36 00:02:58,416 --> 00:03:04,476 Mme ke setsebi se kwetlisitsweng sa IT ya kgwebo, e leng se bolelang hore ke sebetsana le datha le dipalo. 37 00:03:04,476 --> 00:03:10,824 Mme hobane kamehla ke etsa dintho ka nepo e kgolo mme ke hlahloba ntho tsohle habedi, ke iphumanetse lebitso la motho ya 38 00:03:10,824 --> 00:03:14,943 lekanyang dinomoro – leo ha e le hantle ke le motlotlo ka lona. 39 00:03:14,943 --> 00:03:19,496 Kahoo, sehlooho ke: Mafu ho datha e tala. 40 00:03:19,496 --> 00:03:23,323 Ka 'data e tala', ke bolela 'data' e sa fetoloang. 41 00:03:23,323 --> 00:03:30,349 Kahoo, ha ke shebe diphatlalatso tsa boralitaba tse phethilweng kapa ditshwantsho, empa ho ena le hoo ke fumana diphuthelwana tsa 42 00:03:30,349 --> 00:03:35,414 datha tse nang le dintlha tse qaqileng ka hohle kamoo ho ka kgonehang, ebe ke qala ho kopanya 43 00:03:35,414 --> 00:03:40,920 dikakaretso le ho iketsetsa ditshwantsho, jwalo-jwalo. Ke sona seo ke se bolelang ka datha e tala. 44 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:48,529 Mme ha ho tluwa ditšong, potso ke hore: na ho hlokahetse batho ba bangata kapa ba fokolang Jeremane? 45 00:03:48,529 --> 00:03:54,730 Kahoo ha se palo ea batho feela, empa hape ke tlhahlobo ea hore na ho ne ho na le ba bangata ho feta tloaelo kapa ba fokolang. 46 00:03:54,730 --> 00:03:56,536 Ha ho letho ho feta moo – ke eona potso. 47 00:03:56,536 --> 00:04:07,795 Seo ke se bonang datha e tala mabapi le sekgahla sa mafu se fapane ka ho feletseng le seo setjhaba se se dumelang. 48 00:04:07,795 --> 00:04:15,442 Mme ka ho qaqileng, ho jwalo – mabapi le palo ya mafu ka 2020 – maikutlo a setjhaba ke hore re bile 49 00:04:15,442 --> 00:04:19,849 le keketseho e bonahalang ya mafu ka lebaka la sewa. 50 00:04:19,849 --> 00:04:27,750 Mme le nna ke ne ke kgodisehile hore ho tla ba jwalo ka 2020. Mme boitshwaro ba batho bo ne bo bontsha sena 51 00:04:27,750 --> 00:04:32,216 – le nna ke ne ke tshaba ho shwa, ke tshaba vaerase. 52 00:04:32,216 --> 00:04:36,669 Empa ha ke sheba datha e tala, ke bona hantle se fapaneng. 53 00:04:36,669 --> 00:04:44,668 Ha ke bone feela ho se tloaelehang ka 2020, empa ke bile ke bona sekhahla sa mafu se le 54 00:04:44,668 --> 00:04:49,230 tlase ho feta neng kapa neng nalaneng ka 2020. 55 00:04:49,230 --> 00:04:58,523 Mme potso ke hore: ho ka ba le phapang e kalo pakeng tsa seo datha e se bontshang le seo setjhaba se se nahanang ka sona? 56 00:04:58,523 --> 00:05:00,663 Ke polelo ya ka. 57 00:05:00,663 --> 00:05:05,516 Empa ke tla hlalosa tsena ka botlalo puong ea ka. 58 00:05:05,516 --> 00:05:12,963 Hase feela hore ho ne ho le tjena ka 2020, empa le ka 2022, eo ke tla e nka e le mohlala oa bobeli hona joale, 59 00:05:12,963 --> 00:05:17,136 hape ke se fapaneng hantle le seo sechaba se se nahanang. 60 00:05:17,136 --> 00:05:25,527 Le ha maikutlo a sechaba e le hore ha ho sa na liphoso dipalong tsa bafu, boitshwaro ba batho bo bontsha sena: bophelo bo 61 00:05:25,527 --> 00:05:33,016 tlwaelehileng, ha ho sa na ya buang ka dipalo tsa bafu, re bua ka Ukraine, re bua ka Israel, ho na le ditaba 62 00:05:33,016 --> 00:05:37,636 tse fapaneng ka ho felletseng, Corona ke tsa maobane. 63 00:05:37,636 --> 00:05:45,008 Empa ha ke sheba lipalo tsa mafu, joale ke bona liphoso tsena tseo ba bangata ba neng ba lumela hore ba li 64 00:05:45,008 --> 00:05:49,196 bone ka 2020, 'me joale ke li bona lipalong tsa mafu. 65 00:05:49,196 --> 00:05:55,183 Mme se makatsang ke hore ke boetse ke bona mefokolo ena melokong e metjha. 66 00:05:55,183 --> 00:06:01,490 Ha ke e-s'o be le mekhoa e joalo nakong e fetileng. 67 00:06:01,490 --> 00:06:05,236 Empa jwale ke bona keketseho e bonahalang ya mafu hara meloko e metjha. 68 00:06:05,236 --> 00:06:06,536 Mme seo ke taba e hlollang kannete. 69 00:06:06,536 --> 00:06:13,103 Mme hoa thahasellisa ha re shebisisa ka botebo ka beke le beke, e leng seo chate ena e se bontshang. 70 00:06:13,103 --> 00:06:19,258 Joale ha ke a li beha holim'a tse ling, ho ka rialo, empa ke e 'ngoe kamora e 'ngoe, ho 71 00:06:19,258 --> 00:06:22,303 tloha ka 2011 ho isa ho 2023, ho ka rialo. 72 00:06:22,303 --> 00:06:26,463 Mme ke ile ka sheba morao le ho feta, empa ke e tlositse hajoale hore o tle o bone ho hong. 73 00:06:26,463 --> 00:06:33,152 Mme mola ona o moputswa o mokgokolotsane o emela sekgahla sa mafu, haholoholo bakeng sa sehlopha sa dilemo 74 00:06:33,152 --> 00:06:36,850 sa 45 ho isa ho 50, e leng sehlopha sa ka sa dilemo. 75 00:06:36,850 --> 00:06:41,403 Mme re bona paterone e batlang e tsitsitse. 76 00:06:41,403 --> 00:06:48,823 E, e a phatloha ka holimo le ka tlase, ha re ka rialo, empa e itšoara ka tekano e batlang e lekana. 77 00:06:48,823 --> 00:06:49,748 Ee, kamehla ke mokhoa o tšoanang: 78 00:06:49,748 --> 00:06:54,663 Mariha e phahama hanyane, lehlabula e theoha hanyane, ebe e boela e phahama mariha a latelang. 79 00:06:54,663 --> 00:07:00,983 Mme haeba re ka atolosa sena ka ho le letshehadi, kamehla ho tla fella ka paterone ena. 80 00:07:00,983 --> 00:07:05,543 Mme jwale ho fihla sewa se sebe ka ho fetisisa sa nako tsohle. 81 00:07:05,543 --> 00:07:07,490 Mme ke tjena kamoo e shebahalang kateng. 82 00:07:07,490 --> 00:07:11,790 Mme ka pono ya pele, o re: Ha e le hantle ho tshwana le kamehla. 83 00:07:11,790 --> 00:07:15,056 Mola o motsho ke, ha re ka rialo, mokgwa wa sehla. 84 00:07:15,056 --> 00:07:20,336 Mme re ntse re tsoela pele ka 2020 jwalo ka ha re entse dilemong tse fetileng. 85 00:07:20,336 --> 00:07:26,023 Re bile re bile le phokotseho e sa tloaelehang, e leng ntho ea nalane, ka mantsoe a mang. 86 00:07:26,023 --> 00:07:29,310 Empa ha ke bone mokhoa o bonahalang. 87 00:07:29,310 --> 00:07:35,670 Mme jwale dilemo tsa bo 21 le bo 22 di a eketswa ho seo. 88 00:07:35,670 --> 00:07:44,150 Mme ona ke mokgwa o esong ho bonwe pele sehlopheng sena sa dilemo dilemong tsohle tse fetileng. 89 00:07:44,150 --> 00:07:52,257 Kahoo re ka bona ka ho hlaka hore mola o moputsoa o ntse o le kaholimo haholo ho mola o motsho, o batla o o 90 00:07:52,257 --> 00:07:57,023 phunya feela, le hore ho ntse ho hlaha libaka tse kholo. 91 00:07:57,023 --> 00:08:05,936 Mme seo se bolela feela hore batjha ba bangata ba hlokahetse mona ka lebaka la kotsi e itseng 92 00:08:05,936 --> 00:08:12,576 e leng kantle, eo jwale e hlokang ho fuputswa. 93 00:08:12,576 --> 00:08:16,896 Re ne re eso bone boemo bona ba mafu har'a sehlopha sena sa lilemo pele. 94 00:08:16,896 --> 00:08:20,290 Kahoo, ke sesupo se hlakileng haholo sa tlhokomediso. 95 00:08:20,290 --> 00:08:25,266 Mme ke maketse hore ha ho letho le etsahalang, hobane paterone ena e ne e le siyo pele. Mme 96 00:08:25,266 --> 00:08:29,396 e supetsa nqa e le 'ngoe feela, e leng holimo. 97 00:08:29,396 --> 00:08:33,563 Mme nka rata ho nka sehlopha se seng sa dilemo. 98 00:08:33,563 --> 00:08:38,623 Ha re shebeng batho ba lilemo li 50 ho isa ho 55. 99 00:08:38,623 --> 00:08:41,543 Mme ha e le hantle re bona setshwantsho se tshwanang. 100 00:08:41,543 --> 00:08:45,330 Ho dula ho e-ba le diphetoho tse tshwanang sekgahla sa mafu. 101 00:08:45,330 --> 00:08:50,576 Mme jwale sewa se kenyeleditswe moqolong ka 2020. 102 00:08:50,576 --> 00:08:59,020 Mme ha e le hantle re bona sekgahla sa lefu se ka tlase ho karolelano sehlopheng sa dilemo se pakeng tsa 50 le 55. 103 00:08:59,020 --> 00:09:03,810 E, dilemo tse ding di ne di le hodimo haholo. 104 00:09:03,810 --> 00:09:10,536 Mme jwale ke tla le bontsha dilemo tsa 2021 le 2022. 105 00:09:10,536 --> 00:09:16,343 Mme re bona ntho e tshwanang le ho sehlopha se seng sa dilemo: 106 00:09:16,343 --> 00:09:23,150 Mokhoa o hlakileng haholo o kaholimo haholo ho mokhoa oa sehla. 107 00:09:23,150 --> 00:09:29,103 Ka mantsoe a mang, batho ba likete ba lihlopha tsa lilemo tse nyenyane, bao ho ea ka lipalo-palo ba 108 00:09:29,103 --> 00:09:33,443 neng ba sa lokela ho ba kotsing, ba hlokahetse mona. 109 00:09:33,443 --> 00:09:41,136 Ke sesupo se hlakileng haholo sa tlhokomeliso, 'me ha ke utloe letho ka sona. 110 00:09:41,136 --> 00:09:50,059 Mme bothata ke hore ha o sheba feela palo yohle ya batho, letshwao lena la tlhokomediso le a patwa ke mafu a batho 111 00:09:50,059 --> 00:09:54,796 ba hodileng, hobane sekgahla sa mafu se phahame haholo moo. 112 00:09:54,796 --> 00:09:56,189 Joale ha o e bone ho hang. 113 00:09:56,189 --> 00:10:02,710 O tlameha ho sheba sekgahla sa mafu, mme o tlameha ho se sheba beke le beke, hape o tlameha ho se sheba ho ya ka 114 00:10:02,710 --> 00:10:06,209 dihlopha tsa dilemo kapa dihlopha tse nyane tsa dilemo. 115 00:10:06,209 --> 00:10:09,729 Mme letshwao lena le ke ke la hlokomolohuwa. 116 00:10:09,729 --> 00:10:17,527 Mme kaha Ofisi ya Naha ya Dipalopalo e etsa sena – ho sheba sekgahla sa mafu sa beke le beke, jwalo ka ha ke 117 00:10:17,527 --> 00:10:28,416 bontshitse phatlalatsong – ke maketse hore na letshwao lena la tlhokomediso ha le phatlalatswe le hore le patetswe setjhaba. 118 00:10:28,416 --> 00:10:30,800 Jwale ke fihla qetellong ya ka: 119 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:38,385 Ke nahana hore ke kgonne ho bontsha hore na ke hobaneng ha dipalo tsa mafu di loketse ho lekola mafu, hobane di 120 00:10:38,385 --> 00:10:45,023 bonolo hore bohle ba di utlwisise mme ka hona di loketse haholo bakeng sa puisano le setjhaba. 121 00:10:45,023 --> 00:10:52,883 Hobane re utlwisisa hore na diphesente di bolelang: 2%, 5% – re di tseba bophelong ba letsatsi le letsatsi. 122 00:10:52,883 --> 00:10:56,509 Ke ka lebaka leo ke nahanang hore re lokela ho sheba sekhahla sa mafu. 123 00:10:56,509 --> 00:11:02,523 Sekgahla sa mafu ke datha e sa sekameng, ke hore, dintlha, ha re ka rialo. 124 00:11:02,523 --> 00:11:05,714 Ha ho na lipalo-palo ka morao ho sona, ha ho na mohlala, empa ho e-na le hoo, sena ke kamoo re se 125 00:11:05,714 --> 00:11:08,323 lekantseng kateng, sena ke kamoo re se shebileng kateng. 126 00:11:08,323 --> 00:11:11,716 Mme dipalopalo tsa mafu di a fumaneha ho tswa Ofising ya Dipalopalo ya Federale. 127 00:11:11,716 --> 00:11:15,903 Mme hobane feela di sa phatlalatswa ha ho bolele hore ha di yo. 128 00:11:15,903 --> 00:11:21,823 Kahoo re lokela ho kopa dipalo tsa mafu ho Tsamaiso ya Dipalopalo ya Federale. 129 00:11:21,823 --> 00:11:30,228 Mme lebaka la hore setjhaba se be le kgopolo e fosahetseng ka palo ya mafu ka 2020 ke hobane feela Ofisi ya Dipalopalo ya 130 00:11:30,228 --> 00:11:36,618 Federale e ile ya kgetha ho sebedisa dipalo tse fosahetseng dipuisanong tsa setjhaba, e leng 131 00:11:36,618 --> 00:11:40,376 sekgahla sa mafu le sekgahla se phahameng sa mafu. 132 00:11:40,376 --> 00:11:46,779 E, ke nahana hore ke e hlalositse hantle: sekgahla sa mafu se sotha setshwantsho ha palo ya batho e fetoha, ke 133 00:11:46,779 --> 00:11:50,796 hore, ha palo ya batho e hola le ha palo ya batho e tsofala. 134 00:11:50,796 --> 00:11:57,117 Mme ha ho tluwa dipalong tse feteletseng tsa mafu, haeba di balwa ho sebediswa mokgwa o belaetsang jwalo ka mokgwa 135 00:11:57,117 --> 00:12:02,609 ona wa bohare, jwale ho batho ba ntseng ba tsofala, sena le sona se baka dipalo tse hodisitsweng. 136 00:12:02,609 --> 00:12:08,328 Mme haeba re ne re ka fetisa feela dipalo tsena tse pedi, jwalo ka ha Ofisi ya Naha ya Dipalopalo e etsa, ha ho 137 00:12:08,328 --> 00:12:11,496 makatse hore ebe ho thehwa kgopolo e fosahetseng e jwalo. 138 00:12:11,496 --> 00:12:18,293 E, mme seo ka bosona ke ntho e hlabisang dihlong, hore naha kaofela e kenngwa letshoso le se nang 139 00:12:18,293 --> 00:12:22,770 motheo, le se nang motheo ho hang datseng e tala. 140 00:12:22,770 --> 00:12:29,332 Empa seo re se iphumanang re le ho sona hona joale ka 2022, hore ha re utloe letho ho hang ka mokhoa ona o hlahelletseng 141 00:12:29,332 --> 00:12:36,136 har'a meloko e mecha ho tsoa Ofising ea Naha ea Lipalopalo, ke nka seo e le se batlang se tšoana le tlolo ea molao. 142 00:12:36,136 --> 00:12:41,563 Hobane ha ke bona liphoso tsena, le Ofisi ea Lipalopalo ea Federale e li bona le eona. 143 00:12:41,563 --> 00:12:46,363 Mme taba ea hore ha o utloe letho moo e hlahisa lipotso tse ngata. 144 00:12:46,363 --> 00:12:50,953 Hobane haeba Ofisi ea Lipalopalo ea Federale e ne e ka re, "Lumela, ho na le phapang e hlakileng mona!", 145 00:12:50,953 --> 00:12:54,083 joale seo se ne se tla ba le tšusumetso lipolotiking. 146 00:12:54,083 --> 00:12:57,456 Ha ke utlwisise hore na ke hobaneng o sa utlwe letho. 147 00:12:57,456 --> 00:13:05,544 Hobane mosebetsi oa likamano tsa sechaba oo ofisi e o entseng ka 2020, e, ka likopano tsa boralitaba joalo-joalo, le tšoso ena 148 00:13:05,544 --> 00:13:13,736 eohle, joale e ka be e na le motheo oa 'nete lintlheng, empa ha re utloe letho ho tsoa Ofising ea Lipalopalo ea Federale. 149 00:13:13,736 --> 00:13:17,256 Ka hona, tlhaloso e hlakileng e hlokahala ka potlako mona. 150 00:13:17,256 --> 00:13:23,077 Mme jwalo ka ha ke boletse, ke kopa tshehetso ya lona ho netefatsa hore ba ikarabellang ba ikarabelle le 151 00:13:23,077 --> 00:13:27,930 hore re bone dipalo tsa mafu tsa batjha di fokotseha. 152 00:13:27,930 --> 00:13:31,240 Hantle, ke phethela ka moo puo ea ka. 153 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:35,270 Kea leboha ka tlhokomelo ea lona, 'me ke le lakaletsa tsohle tse molemo. 154 00:13:35,270 --> 00:13:39,593 Ihlokomele, Marcel Barz. 155 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:36,760