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Abasolwa ngokuba izishoshovu ezigqugquzelayo zangakwesobunxele
bafuna ukuzinikela – uma bengadluliselwa ngaphandle kwelizwe.

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– lokhu kwakuyisihloko sombiko osakazwe
ngoLwesithathu odlule yi-Mitteldeutscher Rundfunk (MDR).

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Leli cala liphathelene nabantu abayishumi abasolwa ngokuba
izishoshovu zenhlangothi yesobunxele zaseJalimane, abathi

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bahlasele futhi kwezinye izimo balimaza
kakhulu ababekhona emcimbini wokukhumbula

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wabashoshovu benhlangothi yesokudla eBudapest ngo-2023.

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Inkantolo yezobulungiswa yaseHungary manje iyabahlulela
bengakho futhi iyabafuna ngesimemo sokuboshwa samazwe ngamazwe.

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Njengoba ubaba komunye wabasolwa wathi
engxoxweni ne-MDR, iningi lalabo abafunwayo

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selizifihle ukuze bagweme ukwahlulelwa eHungary.

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Ababaleki manje bafuna ukubhekana nobulungisa
eJalimane, kodwa ngemibandela yokuthi bangadluliselwa eHungary.

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Kuthiwa isizathu salokhu ukwesaba izimo
ezibuhlungu ezibikwa zikhona ejele eHungary.

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Lokho kuqukethwe umbiko we-MDR.
Ubusuku obuhle, babukeli abathandekayo.

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Lombiko une-ileyibhuli ethi MDR
Investigativ, ngakho-ke luhloselwe ukuveza.

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Nokho, udaba uqobo ludinga ngokuphuthumayo ukuhlolwa okujulile.

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Ukuhlaziywa kubonisa ngokusobala umkhuba wokudlala ngengqondo,
wokufihla nokushukumisela okubandakanyekayo embikweni we-MDR.

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Kodwa kuqala izinto ezibalulekile:

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Izimo zokudlala ngengqondo embikweni we-MDR

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U-Edgar Lopez we-MDR Investigativ unikeza abazali bamaqembu
abasolwa ngokuba izigebengu eziphakathi

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kwesobunxele inkundla lapho bengakhulula khona
intukuthelo yabo mayelana nezimo ezimbi kakhulu ejele.

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Umama komunye wabantu abafunwayo uphinde abhekisele ekuhlolweni
eJalimane njengethuba kuphela kulaba bantu

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abasha, sengathi ukuhlolwa okungakhethi
ngaphansi komthetho bekungeke kwenzeke eHungary.

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Ngalezi zitatimende, i-MDR idonsa ukunaka kude nokuhlaselwa
okunonya futhi iphinde ivuse imizwa yomusa kwababekwa icala.

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Le mibuzo elandelayo iphinde ikhombise
ukungalingani ekubikeni okuyinhloko:

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Umbiko ubungaba kanjani uma abenzi bobubi
babeyizigigaba eziphakanyisiwe zasekunene?

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Ingabe bekuzoshicilelwa umbiko nhlobo, futhi uma kunjalo, ingabe
bekuzothatha isimo esifanayo sokungahloli izitatimende zabazali?

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Ababukeli bangaphendula le mibuzo ngokwabo.

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Nokho, bekungaba okulula kakhulu ukuveza lezi zinto kuphela.

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Izindinganiso ezimbili mayelana
nobulungisa baseHungary naseJalimane

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Mayelana nezimo ezimbi kakhulu zokuboshwa, kubhekiselwa ku-Ilaria
Salis, owesifazane wase-Italy okwamanje obhekene nenkantolo

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eHungary ngezizathu ezifanayo nabamangalelwa baseJalimane.

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Umbiko ugxeka ukuthi uIlaria Salis wangeniswa enkantolo
eboshwe ngamaketanga nangamakhanda, ukuthi iseli lokuboshwa

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bekuncane kakhulu nokuthi izimo zokuhlanzeka bezimbi kakhulu.

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Kuze kube manje, konke kubi. Kodwa... asijwayele yini
ubulungisa obungenabulungisa obungenamigomo eJalimane futhi?

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Ngalesi sikhathi, babukeli abathandekayo, sifisa
ukukubonisa isifinyezo sohlelo lwe-Kla.TV olubizwa

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ngokuthi Justizbankrott (Ukubhujiswa Kwezobulungiswa).

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Buka isifinyezo esifushane sendlela uhlelo
lobulungiswa lwaseJalimane oluphathe ngayo odokotela abagxeke

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obala noma abangawuxhasi izinyathelo ze-coronavirus:

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- UDkt. Bianca Witzschel: Usejele izinyanga eziyishumi nanye
ngamacala okukhipha izitifiketi zamamaski ezingamanga, ukusesha

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ezindlini zabazalwane nabaguli abangama-84, ukuhlolwa kwecala
esigabeni sokuphepha esiphakeme, udokotela ulethwe egqokiswe

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izibopho, izinhlelo zokulalelwa kwecala ezinsukwini ezingama-40.

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Isigwebo asikwazi ukunganakwa.

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- UDkt. Rolf Kron: Wagwetshwa isigwebo esibambezelwe kanye
nenhlawulo engu-€10,000 ngokusolwa ngokukhipha

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izitifiketi zemaski ezingamanga, ukuvinjelwa okwethutyana
emsebenzini, nokumiswa kwe-akhawunti izinyanga eziyi-15.

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- UDkt. Martin Bündner: Uhlonzwelwe yinkantolo ngenxa yokusolwa
ngokunikeza izitifiketi zezokwelapha ezingamanga

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ezinganeni nasentsha, ngemva kokwahlulelwa
ngaphambi kwesikhathi nokuhlaziswa kakhulu yabezindaba.

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- UDkt. Heinrich Habig: Waboshwa wavalelwa ejele izinyanga
eziyishumi nanye engenazinsolo noma isigwebo sokunikeza

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izitifiketi zokugoma ezingamanga, nakuba umthetho
uvumela kuphela izinyanga eziyisithupha zokuboshwa

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ngaphandle kwezimo eziphuthumayo ezinzima nezifanele.

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- UDkt Bodo Schiffmann: Kwadingeka abekezelele ukusesha izindlu
zakhe ezimbili ngenxa yokugxeka kwakhe inqubomgomo

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ye-coronavirus; amarekhodi eziguli angu-81,000
athathwe, okwaholela ekubhujisweni kwakhe kwezezimali.

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- UDkt Ronald Weikl: ubekwe icala ezimweni ezingaphezu kuka-1,000
ngokusolwa ngokukhishwa kwezitifiketi zamamaski amanga.

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Njengoba ekwazile ukufakazela imiphumela emibi yokugqoka
izimaski isikhathi eside, izinsolo kwadingeka zisuswe.

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Noma kunjalo, wahlawuliswa ama-euro
angu-20 000 ngenxa yokungathembeki ohlelweni.

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Imininingwane yezokwelapha
ayibalulekile lapha, ngokusho komahluleli.

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- Prof. Dr. Stefan Hockertz: Wethule amaqiniso
nge-coronavirus angahambisani nesimo sikahulumeni. Umphumela:

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ukusesha endlini, nokuqandwa kwazo zonke izimpahla zakhe.

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ngokugwemela intela okusolwayo. - UDkt Jens
Bengen: wakhuluma obala ephikisa umjovo

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wokugoma i-coronavirus kanye nezimaski zobuso.

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Ucwaningo olwenziwa ihhovisi likamangaleli womphakathi
nenhlangano yezokwelapha, kanye nokuhlambalaza

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okuqhubekayo; ukuboshwa nokwamukelwa esikhungweni
esivikelekile, lapho ngokusemthethweni afe khona ngokuzibulala.

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- UDkt. Monika Jiang: Wagwetshwa iminyaka emibili ejele,
wavinjwa ukuba asebenze njengodokotela futhi wahlawuliswa

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ngenxa yezitifiketi zezimask. Ngisho umsizi wakhe wahlawuliswa.

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Njengoba ubona, imithombo yezindaba eyinhloko ingaba nezinto
eziningi ezingazibhala ngesimo esidabukisayo

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sohlelo lobulungisa lwaseJalimane, kodwa
bayagwema ukwenza kanjalo nganoma yiziphi izindleko.

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Kunalokho, isithombe seHungary njengombuso ongenabulungisa
siyaqhubeka nokukhuliselwa, ngaleyo ndlela sikhuthaza abantu.

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Ukufihla ukuncika okusabekayo. Embikweni wakhe we-MDR
mayelana nezimo ezesabekayo ejele, intatheli u-Edgar Lopez

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ucaphuna uLili Kramer ovela eKomidi laseHungarian Helsinki.

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Inhlangano engenzi nzuzo ebhekene nesimo sohlelo
lobulungiswa neziboshwa lwaseHungary, ngaleyo ndlela ibonakala

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iyimthombo engafakazela idumela elibi lombuso waseHungary.

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Kodwa ngubani ongemuva kwale NGO?

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Uma sibheka abanikeli beKomidi
laseHelsinki, abadlali ababili ikakhulukazi bagqama:

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Inhlangano Yomphakathi Ovulekile kanye
neSibonelelo Sikazwelonke SeDemokhrasi

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I-Open Society Institute ingumqondo kaGeorge
Soros uqobo, owake wembulwa yi-Kla.TV

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njengomqambi wamazwe omhlaba onobungozi obukhulu.

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Buka uhlelo olubizwa ngeGeorge Soros – Inethiwekhi Yomqambi
Wezamasu Yomhlaba Wonke Eyavezwayo. I-Institute uqobo

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lwayo ingumlingani wezamasu we-WEF, ngakho-ke iyabonakala
ngokusobala njengomdlali okhuthaza Uhlelo Olusha Lomhlaba.

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INational Endowment for Democracy, noma i-NED
ngokufingqiwe, ingumkhono wesigamu sikahulumeni

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wenqubomgomo yangaphandle yase-United States.

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Izigidi ezivela ebhajethini likahulumeni kazwelonke
wase-United States zisetshenziswa ukungenelela

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kwezombusazwe zasekhaya zamazwe azimele emhlabeni wonke.

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– egameni lokwenza izinto zibe sobala, vele.

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Ngisho i-Wikipedia ibala uchungechunge
oluphelele lwezenzo ezingabazekayo kakhulu,

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ezinye zazo ezifana nezinguquko zikahulumeni.

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Ngokwabasebenzi, i-NED ixhumene, phakathi kwabanye, ne-Council
on Foreign Relations kanye ne-Atlantic Council, okungukuthi

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ama-think tank anamandla kakhulu, aphinde avezwakale yi-Kla.TV.

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Bheka uhlelo lwe-Council on Foreign Relations – Uhulumeni
Womhlaba Ongaziwa? Lezi zixhumanisi ezethusayo

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nokuncika kufihlwe yi-MDR futhi kudala
ukungabaza okukhulu ngomsebenzi weKomidi laseHelsinki.

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Ngamafuphi, iKomidi laseHelsinki akuyona inhlangano
ezimele yamalungelo abantu, kodwa i-NGO ethembele

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kubacebisi bezamasu bomhlaba abakhuthaza Uhlelo Olusha Lomhlaba.

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Ngale ndlela, umbiko we-MDR awubonakali ngempela
uphenyo, kodwa uyithuluzi lokuvusa intukuthelo

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ngokumelene neHungary nohlelo lwayo lwezepolitiki.

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Sekuyiminyaka manje, ngaphansi kukamongameli uViktor Orbán,
iHungary ayilandeli indlela ekhuthazwa

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ngabacebisi bezamasu zomhlaba wonke be-NWO,
ikakhulukazi maqondana nenqubomgomo yababaleki nemindeni.

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Buka izinhlelo ze-Kla.TV ngaphansi kwe-hashtag ethi #ViktorOrban.

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Babukeli abathandekayo, sicela nisize ukuveza
lezi zindaba ezilimazayo ngokwabelana ngalo hlelo!