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Rahoton Schöning na yau zai mai da
hankali ne kan batutuwa uku na yanzu.

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Daya shine shirin yaki na cin zarafi
da jami'an Bundeswehr na Jamus suka yi.

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Na biyu su ne Ingo Gerhartz da Amy Gutmann.

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Kuma na uku shi ne yunƙurin hana Heiko Schöning yin jawabi a
zanga-zangar zaman lafiya a Berlin a ranar 10 ga Maris, 2024.

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An tsallake wata tattaunawa, wadda aka fahimta
ko aka ruwaito a kafofin watsa labarai a

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matsayin "skandal ɓoyayyen sauraron wayar Taurus".

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Menene wannan duka yake nufi?

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Hakika, kuma wannan dole ne ya zama taken
labarai, shi ne shirin yaki na mamaye ƙasa.

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Kuma an haramta yaƙe-yaƙe na mamaye.

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A ranar 19 ga Fabrairu, 2024, manyan janar na
Bundeswehr na Jamus sun gudanar da taron shiri don yaƙin mamaya.

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Wato, shugaban Sojin Sama na Jamus,
Lieutenant General Ingo Gerhartz.

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Don haka Janar Gerhartz da Janar Gräfe da wasu biyu ne
suka tsara musamman harbin wani gada na ƙasashen waje.

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Kuma abin takaici, saboda girman sa,
gadar ta zama kamar filin jirgin sama.

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Wannan yana nufin cewa watakila zan buƙaci makaman linzami guda
10 ko 20 don hakan. Kuma wannan shi ne shiri don yaƙin mamaya.

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Kuma bisa ga Sashe na 26, Kashi na 1 na Dokar
Asali – ina da kwafi a nan, a cikin ƙananan rubutu –

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Ayyukan da ake sa ran za su kawo cikas ga zaman
lafiya tsakanin ƙasashe, musamman shirye-shirye don

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yaƙin mamaya, ba su da bisa ga kundin tsarin mulki.

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Za a hukunta su.

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Sai Sashe na 26, Kiyaye Zaman Lafiya, ya bayyana a fili
cewa ba a kamata a shirya yaƙin mamaya ba kuma ya zama laifi.

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Abin da Janar Gerhartz ya yi tare da sauran
manyan jami'an Bundeswehr guda uku shi ne fashe wani

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gada na ƙasashen waje da makaman Taurus na Jamus.

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Ba shi da muhimmanci gaske irin rokoki ne ko yaya ake kiran su.

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Abu mafi muhimmanci shi ne tsara farmaki a kan gada.

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Wannan zai yi kama da wata ƙasar waje da ke son
fashe gadar Elbe a kusa da Hamburg ko Dresden,

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ko gadar Rhine a kusa da Cologne ko Düsseldorf.

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Kuma shirin a zahiri, domin wannan taron tsara shiri
ya ɗauki kusan mintuna 40, kuma an tabbatar da

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hakan, ba a musanta ba, lallai haka ne abin da ya faru.

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Kuma na tabbatar da kaina da wannan. Ba ni
kawai likita ba ne; ina da mukamin jami'i, kuma

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ni ma jami'i ne a cikin Ajiyar Sojojin Jamus.

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Wannan yana nufin cewa, daga mahangar
fasaha, zan iya tabbatar da duka abin kawai.

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Kuma wannan shi ne makasudin. Kuma
ya kamata doka ta hukunta hakan.

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Kuma wannan ma shi ne abin da muka ce bayan an fitar da shi a
ranar 1 ga Maris: Yanzu za mu gaggauta shirya

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zanga-zanga kuma zan sanar da cewa ina ba da
rahoto kan janaroli, musamman Janar Gerhartz.

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Domin hakan laifi ne.

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Eh, tabbas. A matsayin jami'in Bundeswehr, ko za a gayyace ka
zuwa irin wannan taro? To mene ne zai iya kasancewa a bayansa?

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Kuma wanene ainihin wannan Gerhartz, har
zai iya aƙalla tattauna irin wannan shiri?

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Eh, Janar Gerhartz, ko mafi daidai, Mataimakin
Janar Ingo Gerhartz, har yanzu matashi ne a matsayinsa.

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Shi ne shugaban Sojin Sama na Jamus. Akwai Sojin
ƙasa, Sojin ruwa, Sojin sama da ƙananan rundunoni.

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Wannan ya sa shi ɗaya daga cikin manyan janarori a Jamus.

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Kuma ya tsara shi tare da sauran janaroli.

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Kuma tunda Jamus memba ce ta NATO kuma Amurka,
tabbas, ita ce babbar ƙasa mai jagoranci ba kawai a

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cikin NATO ba, dole ne mu tambayi kanmu a sarari:

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Shin wani janar na Jamus zai iya gaske tsara rushewar babbar
gada a ƙasashen waje ba tare da umarni ko goyon bayan Amurka ba?

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Tabbas ba haka ba ne.

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Kuma sai, tabbas, na tambayi kaina: To,
wa ne zai iya kasancewa a bayan wannan?

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Wane ne mutumin da a zahiri yake jagorantar shugaban Sojin Sama?

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Wanene mutumin da ke da alhakin komai a Amurka?

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Eh, a ganina, wannan shi ne tsarin gargajiya kuma.

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Ita ce jakadan Amurka a Jamus kuma sunanta Amy Gutmann.

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Amy Gutmann – amma an rubuta shi Gutmann.

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Kuma wannan mutumin, eh, yana da abubuwa da
dama a tarihin sa, waɗanda har ma suka yi

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daidai da binciken forensik na laifuka da na yi.

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Domin wannan mata ba kawai jakadan Amurka ba ce, har ila yau ita
ce shugabar Kwamitin Shugaban Kasa kan ɗabi'un kimiyyar halittu.

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Wannan yana nufin cewa ta taimaka wajen yanke
shawarar halaccin makaman halitta a cikin wannan tsarin.

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Wannan ita ce Amy Gutmann.

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Ta kasance a Jamus na wani lokaci yanzu kuma
ta gana da Janar Ingo Gerhartz sau da dama.

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Za mu iya kuma nuna hotunansa a can.

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Kuma a bayyane yake cewa su biyun suna
da dangantakar aiki mai matukar kusanci.

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Kuma hakika, wannan mukamin da Amy Gutmann ke rike da shi a nan
Jamus ba kawai mukamin diflomasiyya ba ne,

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har ma, kamar yadda aka tabbatar a cikin shekaru
da dama, yana kunshe da ayyukan leƙen asiri.

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Kuma jakadun Amurka ma suna da wasu sassan
CIA a cikin ƙasar a ƙarƙashin ikon su, wato

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hukumar leƙen asiri, Central Intelligence Agency.

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Kuma kuma, mu ce reshe na farar hula na
CIA, wanda ba a san shi sosai ba, USAID.

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A gaskiya, wannan tallafin ci gaba ne,
a ce. Amma hakan kawai rufin ne ga CIA.

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Kuma haka lamarin yake tun a akalla Yakin Vietnam.

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Hakanan akwai jadawalin tsarin ƙungiya, don haka ka
san cewa a nan akwai jakada, sannan a ƙarƙashinta a

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cikin jadawalin akwai CIA, USAID da sauran hukumomi.

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Wannan yana nufin cewa jakaduna a ƙasa suna kama da shugabanni.

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Kuma Ingo Gerhartz da Amy Gutmann sun gana
sau da dama kuma sun yi aiki tare sosai.

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Za mu iya tabbatar da hakan.

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Kuma abin da nake ganin ya fi ban tsoro shi
ne cewa Amy Gutmann tana matuƙar aiki wajen

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amfani da shirya makaman kwayoyin halitta.

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Kuma wannan a zahiri an tabbatar da shi
ta labarai da dama, har ma da na kimiyya.

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Wannan ba alama mai kyau ba ce, tabbas,
musamman yanzu da barazanar ke karatowa kusa da

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Jamus yayin da Jamus ke shiga cikin lamarin.

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Kuma don haka watakila Jamus za ta aiwatar da shi saboda Amurka
ba ta son ta bata hannayenta kai tsaye. Shin hakan zai yiwu?

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Eh, Amurka tana nan kawai a ɗayan gefen teku.

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Kuma a nan Turai, za a iya cewa rikici ne tsakanin Jamus da
Rasha, wanda tabbas babu wanda a cikin al'ummar Jamus ke so.

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Kuma tambayar ita ce, yaya ake shirya irin
wannan abu? Yaya irin wannan abu ke faruwa?

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Kuma kusan shekaru goma da suka wuce, mun shaida wannan, kuma
yanzu muna ganin yana faruwa sake tun daga

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2014, tare da wani mutum mai kama da Amy Gutmann
yana aiki a Jamus a kan Ukraine, a cikin Ukraine.

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Wannan shi ne harin Maidan.

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To, wannan juyin mulkin Maidan ne, wato canjin mulki,
kifar da gwamnati ta zabe a Ukraine ta hanyar tashin hankali.

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Kuma mu dai mun fara fuskantar duk
waɗannan matsalolin ne tun daga shekarar 2014.

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Kuma wannan mutumin ita ce Victoria Nuland.

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Don haka, a baya, shekaru goma da suka wuce, an samu wani lamari
makamancin haka wanda ya haifar da wannan babbar

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rikici tsakanin Ukraine da Rasha, wanda tun daga
lokacin ake ci gaba da shi kuma yana da matukar aiki.

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Kuma hakan na iya faruwa sake ko kuma zai iya faruwa sake.

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Eh, a irin wannan hanya, dole ne kawai a ce.

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Kuma menene halin da ake ciki da Nuland?

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Eh, akwai daidaito a can ma:

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An kuma saurari hirar Victoria Nuland
a can kusan shekaru goma da suka wuce.

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Tambayar ita ce wa Amurka da abokan kawancenta na NATO
suke son ganin a matsayin shugaban gwamnati na gaba.

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A Ukraine? A Ukraine.

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Wa Amurka ke so a Ukraine. Heiko Schöning:] Daga
nan, daidai. Shi ne ainihin abin da ake magana a kai.

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Kuma kasashen EU sun so Klitschko, ɗan
dambe. Kuma Victoria Nuland ta ce: Fuck EU.

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Don haka ku manta da EU. Matuƙar
rashin ladabi, matuƙar rashin abokantaka.

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Victoria Nuland tana da kasafin kudi na kusan dala
biliyan biyar na Amurka a hannunta don wannan juyin mulki.

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Don haka a zahiri lamari ne na cin hanci da rashawa ta
siyasa. Eh, an kuma samu tashin hankali mai yawa a Maidan.

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Kuma mun ga hotuna masu ban tsoro da kuma tashin
hankali da hakan ya haifar da ƙasashen makwabta na Ukraine.

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Eh, kuma idan mutane a wancan lokacin sun riga sun yi irin
wannan ra'ayi, wato 'Bari EU ta tafi', to a yau abin da za mu

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iya tsorata shi ne mafi muni, wato ana iya barin EU ko Turai.

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Ko kuma an yarda cewa ya yiwu yaƙi ya barke a ɓangaren Turai ma.

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Eh, haka ne.

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Don haka, a fili ne cewa ana karɓar
yaƙi. Mu koma ga takamaiman bayanai.

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Eh, wani janar na Bundeswehr na Jamus, Gerhartz, ya
shirya fashewar gadar Crimea cikin cikakken tsari.

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Kuma ba shi da muhimmanci ainihin inda
wannan gada take, ita gada ce ta ƙasashen waje.

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Jamhuriyar Tarayyar Jamus ba ta cikin yaƙi
da kowace ƙasa, kuma al'umma ba ta son yaƙi.

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Kuma dole ne in faɗi a fili, har ma a matsayin jami'in
ajiya a Rundunar Sojin Jamus: wannan laifi ne; bisa ga Sashe na

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26, Kashi na 1 na Dokar Asali, ana iya hukunta shi da doka.

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An kuma haɗa wannan cikin Dokar Laifuka a
ƙarƙashin Sashe na 80 – shirya yaƙin mamaya.

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An cire shi. An goge shi a shekarar 2017, amma an
ci gaba da shi kusan a cikin iri ɗaya kamar yadda

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yake a Sashe na 13 na Dokar Laifukan Ƙasa da Ƙasa.

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Amma shi ma an canza shi kaɗan, an rage ƙarfinsa a ganina.

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A nan ma, dole ne a tambaya: Ta yaya hakan zai yiwu?

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Ta yaya za ku iya kawai cire wani tanadi na dokar laifi
haka sannan ku canza shi ta yadda zai yi kama da gibi a doka?

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Amma a taƙaice, zan iya cewa kawai cewa duk da duk wata dabaran
doka da aka yi amfani da ita a can, Sashe na 26, na Tsaron Zaman

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Lafiya na Kundin Tsarin Mulkin Jamus, yana aiki a kowane hali.

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Kuma a fili ya bayyana cewa ko
shirya yaƙin mamaya ma ya zama laifi.

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To, hakan na nufin cewa jami'an Bundeswehr na Jamus
sun aikata laifi kuma ya kamata a gurfanar da su.

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Daidai ne, wannan shi ne muhimmin batu. Kuma dole ne ka gane
shi nan da nan, ba tare da rufin Amurka ba kusan ba zai yiwu ba.

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Hakanan za ka iya ganinsa a tarukan hukuma, a
taron manema labarai na tarayya, inda

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Gerhartz ke zaune a gefen Gutmann, suna zaune tare.

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Suna ganawa akai-akai, suna yin
shirye-shirye da sauran abubuwa da yawa.

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Kuma hakika abin tambaya ne a ba irin wannan
mutum mai cike da shakku irin wannan babban mukami.

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Kuma fiye da haka, dole ne in faɗi cewa Amy Gutmann ba kawai ita
ce shugabar Kwamitin Halayyar Rayuwa na Shugaban Amurka ba, wanda

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hakan ke nufin tana da ikon kai tsaye kan shawarwarin makaman
halitta, har ila yau ita ce shugabar Jami'ar Pennsylvania

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na tsawon shekaru da dama. Eh, wata jiha ce a Amurka.

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Jami'a ce mai girma kaɗan, Jami'ar Penn, Pennsylvania.

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Kuma na bayyana dalla-dalla a cikin littafin 'Attack
on the Microbiome' yadda ake gudanar da binciken

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makaman halitta a Jami'ar Pennsylvania a halin yanzu.

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Ba ma son mu shiga cikin cikakkun bayanai anan, domin
mun riga mun fitar da rahoton Schöning kan wannan batu.

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Kuma a Jami'ar Pennsylvania, akwai wani
masanin makaman halitta mai suna Henry Daniel.

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Kuma yanzu mun koma wannan lokaci kuma.

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Wannan kuma yana nufin cewa dukkan zaren suna
nuna iri ɗaya a hanya kuma suna sake haɗuwa, don haka

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muna buƙatar mu mai da hankali sosai kan wannan.

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Manyan kafofin watsa labarai a Jamus ba sa ba
wannan kulawa sosai, ko ma babu kwata-kwata.

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Wannan alakar Taurus ba ta shafi shirin yaki na
zalunci ba, wato ba ta shafi irin waɗannan batutuwan masu

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fashewa ba, amma galibi ta shafi leƙen asiri daga Rasha.

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Tabbas, wannan ma yana ɓoye gaskiyar cewa ana
iya cewa an tura dukkan wannan lamari zuwa

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wannan hanya tare da goyon bayan Amurka da wasu.

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Kuma ta wannan hanya, hakan yana
kuma taimakawa wajen ruɗar jama'a.

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Kuma yanayin fashewar wannan batu bai yi tasiri sosai a tsakanin
jama'ar Jamus ba tukuna, wato ba a san shi sosai ba tukuna.

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Kuma wannan shi ne babban batu: gaggauta kiran zanga-zanga don
cewa: Ku kula, muna kan gab da fada idan muka ci gaba da haka.

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Dole ne a cire janar-janaran Sojojin Jamus daga
waɗannan mukamai domin hana faruwar abubuwa mafi muni.

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Kuma shi ya sa aka tsara wannan zanga-zangar
zaman lafiya a ranar 10 ga Maris a Berlin.

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Duk da haka, an kama Heiko Schöning a hannun
'yan sanda mintuna biyar kafin taron ya fara.

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Ta yaya wannan ya faru, ko menene zai iya zama cikas?

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Eh, tabbas dole ne in ɗauka cewa ana
sauraron wayata ta hannu da sadarwata.

151
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A wannan fanni, ya kasance a bayyane cewa ni ne zan kasance na
farko da zai yi jawabi a zanga-zangar; a matsayina na mai jawabi

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na farko, zan kuma ce an haramta yaƙe-yaƙe na mamaye ƙasa.

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Shi ne Janar Gerhartz da sauran janarai. Zan shigar da
ƙarar laifi a 'yan sanda kan Ingo Gerhartz da sauran janarai.

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Kuma dole ne ka ci gaba da komawa kan hakan,
domin duk sauran abubuwa su ne abin karkatarwa.

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Muna a zahiri mu'amala da wasa ne, da wuta, da yaƙin mamaya.

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Eh, ko shirya irin wannan hari ma ana hukunta shi da
aƙalla shekaru goma a gidan yari. Kuma yin yaƙin mamaya

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ana hukunta shi da ɗaurin rai da rai a gidan yari, eh.

158
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Kuma dole ne mu fito kan tituna, dole ne mu faɗi haka.

159
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Kuma hakan ya faru ne a ranar Lahadi a Berlin, 10 ga
Maris, da karfe biyu na rana, lokacin da aka tsara za a fara.

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Na riga na kasance a can da ƙarfe 12 na rana a Titin 17 ga Yuni.

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Wannan yana kusan mita 100 daga Kofar
Brandenburg, a gaban Tunawa da Yaƙin Soviet.

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Na yi magana da jami'in 'yan sanda a wurin
cikin ladabi kuma na nuna masa katin shaida na.

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Na faɗi wanene ni. Ni ne mai jawabi na farko a nan, kuma a ina
za mu ajiye kayan bayani? Duk abin ya yi kyau, komai lafiya, eh.

164
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An tsara a fara shi da ƙarfe biyu na
rana, don haka kimanin sa'o'i biyu daga baya.

165
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Kuma mun fuskance shi: kimanin mintuna biyar
zuwa goma kafin haka, 'yan sanda suka iso kwatsam

166
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suka tambaye ni; gaskiya dai tambaya ce kawai.

167
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– Kana so ka zo ka gane wani? Ko da yake sun san daidai ni waye.

168
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Na ce: A'a, bana so. Ba ni da lokaci don hakan a yanzu.
Ina so in yi magana a nan, don haka amsar ita ce a'a.

169
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Kuma ba tare da sun ce suna son sake tabbatar da ainihin
mutumin da ke son samun bayanan nawa da adireshina ba.

170
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Na riga na ba su hakan a baya, ko mafi dacewa, sun riga sun sani.

171
00:19:34,583 --> 00:19:39,576
Wannan ya kasance gaba ɗaya ba daidai ba. An yi nufin
ya kawo cikas. Ba a sa ran zan yi wannan jawabi ba.

172
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An ja ni na fiye da sa'o'i uku, a zahiri cikin tsanani.

173
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Kuma yana nesa sosai, har zuwa Hohenschönhausen,
kilomita 15 daga tsakiyar birnin Berlin, eh, lallai nesa

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sosai, don haka sai da na iso ne bayan faduwar rana.

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Da sa'a, mun sami damar tsara shi yadda zan iya yin jawabi a can.

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Shi ya sa za ka iya sauraron sa ma.

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Faɗakarwa! Ana hana shirin yaki na mamaye ƙasa!

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Amma wannan wata dabara ce kawai don ƙoƙarin jawo hankali.

179
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Mutane suna magana game da irin waɗannan
abubuwan, amma ba game da abun ciki ba.

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Kuma zan iya sake faɗa: duk abin da ya faru a
can, an haramta yaƙe-yaƙe na mamaye ƙasashe.

181
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Ina shigar da kara ta laifi kan Janar Gerhartz da sauran mutane.

182
00:20:34,662 --> 00:20:40,972
Kuma zan iya kawai roƙon kowane ɗan
ƙasa ya je ofishin 'yan sanda da kansa.

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Kuma tare da wannan bidiyo ma, bayanan suna nan a fili, suna
ba mutum damar cewa: Ga shi nan, ana zargin laifi ne, ina

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ba da rahoto – kuma kawai ina amfani da kundin tsarin mulki.

185
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Ba ƙari, ba ƙasa.

186
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Kuma yana da muhimmanci mu sanar da
ma'aikatan gwamnati da jami'ai, wato 'yan sanda da

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konstablolin 'yan sanda, cewa haka lamarin yake.

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Kuma kowane ɗan ƙasa yana da 'yancin yin hakan idan an
shirya yaƙin mamaya a fili anan, kamar yadda wannan

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tattaunawar da tabbacin da gwamnati ta riga ta bayar suka nuna.

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Ba za mu iya barin hakan ya faru ba.

191
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Don haka kuma yana aiki a matsayin ma'auni don nuna cewa:

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Mu, a matsayin al'umma, mun fahimci wannan.

193
00:21:40,964 --> 00:21:43,438
Mu, al'umma, ba mu goyi bayan wannan ba.

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Mu, a matsayin al'umma, muna ƙoƙarin kare kanmu.

195
00:21:45,939 --> 00:21:52,981
A yayin yin hakan, yana da muhimmanci a sanar da 'yan sanda, kuma
watakila 'yan siyasa da wasu, domin kawai a fara

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wani abu, ta yadda za a iya dakatar da yiwuwar
yaƙin mamaya wanda Jamus ma ke da hannu a ciki.

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00:21:58,875 --> 00:22:02,371
Daidai ne. Wannan shi ne kawai abin da ya fi muhimmanci, eh.

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Kuma ba don a ɗauki mai saƙo da wanda ya faɗi shi a matsayin
masu laifi ba, sai dai a maida hankali kan abin da yake, eh.

199
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Kuma hakan laifi ne a ƙarƙashin
Sashe na 11 na Dokar Ayyukan Soja.

200
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Dole ne in bayyana wannan a nan cikin bayyananne sosai:

201
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A cewar Sashe na 11 na Dokar Sojoji, ba za a
aiwatar da umarni ba idan hakan zai iya zama laifi.

202
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Don haka, ga duk sojoji da ma'aikatan
gwamnati: Ku ce a'a! A'a ga yakin mamaye!

203
00:22:35,360 --> 00:22:41,352
Ka sa kanka cikin haɗarin gurfanawa a gaban kotu – ba ma
ambaton sakamakon ɗabi'a da sauran tasirin da hakan zai haifar.

204
00:22:41,352 --> 00:22:47,004
A matsayina na likita, zan iya cewa kawai, me muke
magana a nan game da rokoki da fashe-fashe da fashe

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gadar, alhali hakan zai sake jawo asarar rayukan mutane.

206
00:22:50,188 --> 00:22:58,125
Lokacin da makamin linzami na tafiya mai nisa kamar
Taurus ya fashe, zafin jiki yana kaiwa dubban digiri Celsius.

207
00:22:58,125 --> 00:23:02,898
Ana ƙonawa mutane. Ana yanyanka su
kuma a raba su zuwa sassa-sassa.

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00:23:02,898 --> 00:23:05,672
Wannan ne muke magana akai, eh.

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00:23:05,672 --> 00:23:12,420
Mu sake faɗa waɗannan matasan Rheinmetall da ba su da masaniya:

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Idan muka yi magana game da hare-haren roketa,
muna magana ne game da ƙonawa da yage-yagen

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jikin mutane, kuma wannan ba abin dariya ba ne.

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Shi ya sa a'a!

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Don haka, uwaye, iyaye, ba za mu mika
'ya'yanmu ba. Ku ce a'a kuma ku tsaya wa zaman lafiya.

