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Tlaleho ea kajeno ea Schöning e tla shebana
haholo-holo le lihlooho tse tharo tsa hajoale.

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E 'ngoe ke morero oa ntoa ea tlhaselo e
etsoang ke liofisiri tsa Bundeswehr ea Jeremane.

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Ba bobedi ke Ingo Gerhartz le Amy Gutmann.

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Mme ya boraro ke teko ya ho thibela Heiko Schöning ho
bua pontshong ya kgotso Berlin ka la 10 Hlakubele 2024.

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Puisano e ne e haptjwe, e ileng ya nkuwa kapa ya tlalehwa mecheng
ya phatlalatso e le "Sekgobo sa ho mamela mehala sa Taurus".

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Seo e ne e le eng?

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Ruri, mme ena e tlameha ho ba
sehlooho, ke moralo oa ntoa ea tlhaselo.

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Mme dintwa tsa tlhaselo di thibetsoe.

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Ka la 19 Hlakola 2024, ho bile le kopano ea moralo oa ntoa ea
tlhaselo e neng e tšoeroe ke lijenale tsa Bundeswehr ea Jeremane.

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E leng, hlooho ea Lebotho la Sefofane la
Jeremane, Lieutenant General Ingo Gerhartz.

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Kahoo Molaoli Gerhartz le Molaoli Gräfe le ba bang ba babedi
ba ile ba rera ka ho kgetheha ho qhomisa borokgo ba naha esele.

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Mme ka bomadimabe, ka lebaka la boholo ba
yona, borokho bo tshwana le lebala la difofane.

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Seo se bolela hore nka hloka dimmisaele tse 10 kapa tse 20
bakeng sa seo. Mme oo ke boitokisetso ba ntoa ya tlhaselo.

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Mme ho ya ka Karolo ya 26, Temana ya 1 ya Molao wa Motheo
– ke na le khopi mona, e ngotsweng ka mongolo o monyane –

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Liketso tse ka sitisang phedisano e nang le
khotso ea lichaba, haholo-holo litokisetso tsa ntoa

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ea tlhaselo, ha li tsamaellane le molao oa motheo.

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Ba lokela ho otlwa.

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Kahoo Karolo ya 26, ya ho Boloka Kgotso, e hlakisa hore ntwa
ya tlhaselo ha ea lokela ho rerelwa mme e lokela ho otlwa.

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Mme seo Molaoli Gerhartz a se entseng le balaodi ba bang ba
bararo ba maemo a hodimo ba Bundeswehr e bile ho qhomisa

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borokgo ba naha esele ka dimisaele tsa Jeremane tsa Taurus.

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Ha e le hantle ha ho na taba hore na ke
lirokete tsa mofuta ofe kapa li bitsoa eng.

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Ntho ea bohlokoa ke ho rera tlhaselo marobaleng.

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Seo se ka tshwana le ha naha e nngwe ya kantle e ne e
batla ho qhomisa marokgo a Elbe haufi le Hamburg kapa

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Dresden, kapa marokgo a Rhine haufi le Cologne kapa Düsseldorf.

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Le moralo o tiileng, hobane kopano ena ea moralo e
nkile metsotso e ka bang 40, e leng ntho e

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netefalitsoeng, ha e ea latoloa, ke sona kannete se etsahetseng.

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Mme ke ikgolisitse ka sena. Ha ke ngaka feela,
ke boetse ke na le boemo ba boofisiri, mme

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hape ke ofisiri Sesoleng sa Polokelo sa Jeremane.

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Sena se bolela hore, ho ya ka boemo ba
botekgeniki, nka netefatsa taba yohle feela.

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Mme ke yona ntlha. Mme seo se lokela ho otlwa ka molao.

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Mme hape ke ntho eo re e buileng kamora hore e tsoe ka la 1
Tlhakubele: Jwale re tla potlakela ho hlophisa

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boipelaetso mme ke tla phatlalatsa hore ke tlaleha
balaoli-kakaretso, haholoholo Molaoli-kakaretso Gerhartz.

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Hobane hoo ke tlolo ya molao.

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E, ruri. Joaloka ofisiri ea Bundeswehr, na
o ne o ka memeloa kopanong e joalo? Joale,

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ke eng e ka 'nang eaba e le morero oa eona?

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Mme hantle-ntle Gerhartz enoa ke mang,
hore a ka buisana bonyane ka morero o joalo?

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E, Molaoli Gerhartz, kapa ho nepahala haholoanyane Molaoli-'moho
Ingo Gerhartz, o ntse a le monyane bakeng sa boemo ba hae.

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Ke hlooho ea Lebotho la Sefofane la Jeremane. Ho
na le Lebotho la Naha, Lebotho la Metsing,

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Lebotho la Sefofane le likarolo tse ka tlas'a tsona.

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Sena se mo etsa e mong oa ba jenerale ba
maemo a phahameng ka ho fetisisa Jeremane.

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Mme a e rera mmoho le baokamedi ba bang ba sesole.

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Mme kaha Jeremane ke setho sa NATO mme US,
ehlile, ke matla a ka sehloohong eseng feela

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ho NATO, re tlameha ho ipotsa ka ho hlaka:

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Na mookameli wa sesole wa Mojeremane a ka hlile
a rera ho senya borokho bo boholo kantle ho

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naha ntle le ditaelo kapa tshehetso e tswang ho US?

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Ka sebele eseng.

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Mme yaba, ehlile, ke ipotsa:
Hantle, ke mang ya ka bang ka mora sena?

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Ke mang motho ea hlileng a etellang
pele hlooho ea Lebotho la Sefofane?

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Ke mang motho ya okametseng tsohle naheng ya USA?

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E, ho ya ka pono ya ka, ke paterone e tlwaelehileng hape.

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Ke Moemeli wa Amerika naheng ya
Jeremane mme lebitso la hae ke Amy Gutmann.

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Amy Gutmann – empa e ngoliloe Gutmann.

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Mme motho enwa, e, o na le dintho tse mmalwa
tse ngodisitsweng, tseo esita le di

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tsamaelanang le diphuputso tsa ka tsa botlokotsebe.

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Hobane mosadi enwa ha se moemedi wa US feela,
empa hape e ne e le modulasetulo wa Khomishene ya

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Mopresidente ya Melao ya Boitshwaro ba Baeloji.

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Sena se bolela hore o thusitse ho etsa qeto mabapi le
ho dumellwa ha dibetsa tsa baeloji ka hara moralo ona.

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Ena ke Amy Gutmann.

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O qetile nako e itseng Jeremane mme o kopane le
Molaoli-Kakaretso Ingo Gerhartz makgetlo a mmalwa.

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Re ka boela ra bontsha dinepe tsa yona moo.

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Mme ho hlakile hore ba babedi bao ba
na le kamano e haufi-ufi ya mosebetsi.

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Mme ke nnete hore boemo bona boo Amy Gutmann a bo tshwereng mona
Jeremane ha se feela boemo ba bodiplomate, empa,

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jwalo ka ha ho se ho ngotswe hantle dilemong tse mashome,
hape ke boemo bo kenyelletsang mesebetsi ya bohlale.

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Mme baemedi ba US ba bile ba na le dikarolo tsa
CIA naheng eo di le tlasa taolo ya bona, ke hore,

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tshebeletso ya sephiri, Central Intelligence Agency.

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Mme hape, ha re re, lekala la baahi la
CIA le sa tsebahaleng haholo, USAID.

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Ha e le hantle ke thuso ea nts'etsopele, re ka
rialo. Empa ke sekoaelo feela bakeng sa CIA.

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Mme ho bile jwalo bonyane ho tloha Ntweng ya Vietnam.

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Hape ho na le chate tsa tlhophiso, e le hore u
tsebe hore mona ke moemeli, ebe ka tlase ho eena

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chateng ea tlhophiso ke CIA, USAID le mekhatlo e meng.

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Seo se bolela hore baemeli ba dinaha ding ka
hara naha le bona ba tshwana le baetapele.

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Mme Ingo Gerhartz le Amy Gutmann ba ile ba
kopana makgetlo a mmalwa mme ba sebedisana haufi-ufi.

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Re ka paka seo.

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Mme se ntshwenyang le ho feta ke hore Amy
Gutmann o hlile o le mafolofolo haholo

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tshebedisong le ditokisetsong tsa dibetsa tsa baeloji.

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Mme sena ha e le hantle se pakilwe ke
dingolwa tse mmalwa, esita le dingolwa tsa saense.

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Seo ha se utlwahale hantle, ehlile, haholoholo jwale kaha tshoso
e ntse e atamela Jeremane ha Jeremane e ntse e kenella haholo.

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Ka hona, ho ka etsahala hore Jeremane e tla e
phethahatsa hobane US ha e batle ho

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itšilafatsa matsoho ka kotloloho. Na ho ka ba joalo?

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E, USA e ka mose ho letša feela.

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Mme mona Europe, ke, ha re ka rialo, ntoa
pakeng tsa Jeremane le Russia, eo ehlile ho se nang

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le a mong hara sechaba sa Jeremane ea e batlang.

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Mme potso ke hore, ntho e tjena e
lokiswa jwang? Ntho e tjena e etsahala jwang?

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Mme hoo e ka bang dilemo tse leshome tse fetileng, re ile ra bona
sena, mme jwale re ka se bona se etsahala hape, ho tloha ka

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2014, ka motho ya tshwanang haholo le Amy Gutmann ya sebetsang
naheng ya Jeremane kgahlanong le Ukraine, naheng ya Ukraine.

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Eo e ne e le tlhaselo ea Maidan.

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E, hoo e ne e le phetohelo ea 'muso ea
Maidan, ke hore, phetoho ea 'muso, ho ketoleloa

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ka likhoka ha 'muso o khethiloeng oa Ukraine.

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Mme re bile le mathata ana
kaofela kannete feela ho tloha ka 2014.

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Mme motho eo ke Victoria Nuland.

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Kahoo, nakong e fetileng, dilemo tse leshome tse fetileng, ho
bile le ketsahalo e tshwanang e ileng ya baka ntwakgolo

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ena pakeng tsa Ukraine le Russia, e ntseng e tswela
pele ho tloha ka nako eo mme e ntse e le mafolofolo haholo.

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Mme seo se ka be se etsahetse hape kapa se ka etsahala hape.

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E, ka mokhoa o tšoanang, motho o tlameha feela ho bolela.

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Mme boemo ba Nuland bo jwang?

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E, ho na le papiso le moo:

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Puisano ea Victoria Nuland le eona e ile ea
mamelloa moo lilemong tse ka bang leshome tse fetileng.

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Potso e ne e le hore na US le balekane ba yona ba NATO ba
ne ba batla ho bona mang e le hlooho e latelang ya mmuso.

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Ukraine? Ukraine.

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Motho eo US e mo batlang Ukraine. Heiko
Schöning:] E, hantle. E ne e le ka seo hantle.

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Mme dinaha tsa EU di ne di batla Klitschko,
ralitebele. Mme Victoria Nuland a re: EU e ka ya siholong.

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Kahoo lebala ka EU. E makgwakgwa haholo, ebile ha e na botsoalle.

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Victoria Nuland o ne a na le tekanyetso ya hoo e ka
bang didolara tsa Amerika tse dibilione tse 5 eo a

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neng a ka e sebedisa bakeng sa phetohelo ena ya mmuso.

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Kahoo ha e le hantle ke taba ea bobolu ba
lipolotiki. E, ho bile le pefo e kholo Maidan.

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Mme re bone ditshwantsho tse tshabehang le ho mpefala ha
ditaba hoo ho bakilweng ke sena dinaheng tseahisani tsa Ukraine.

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E, mme haeba batho mehleng eo ba ne ba se ba na le maikutlo ao,
e leng 'EU e siuoe', jwale matsatsing ana re ka tshaba se sebe

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ka ho fetisisa feela, e leng hore EU kapa Europe e ka tlohelwa.

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Kapa hore ho a amoheleha hore ntoa e ka
hlile e qhoma le ka lehlakoreng la Europe.

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E, ho lokile.

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Kahoo, ho hlakile haholo hore ntwa e a
amohelwa. Ha re kgutleleng dintlheng tse tobileng.

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E, mookameli oa sesole sa Jeremane, Bundeswehr, Gerhartz, o
ile a hlile a rera ho qhomisa borokho ba Crimea ka botlalo.

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Ha e le hantle ha ho na taba hore na borokho
bona bo hokae, ke borokho ba kantle ho naha.

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Rephaboliki ea Federale ea Jeremane ha e ntoeng le
naha efe kapa efe, 'me baahi le bona ha ba batle ntoa.

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Mme ke tlameha ho bua ka ho hlaka, hape jwalo ka ofisiri ya
polokelo Mabotong a Sesole a Jeremane: sena ke

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tlolo ya molao; ho ya ka Karolo ya 26, Serapa sa 1
sa Molao wa Motheo, sena se kgalemelwa ke molao.

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Sena se ne se boetse se kenyelelitsoe ho Molao oa Botlokotsebe
tlas'a Karolo ea 80 – boitokisetso ba ntoa ea tlhaselo.

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E tlositswe. E hlakotswe ka 2017, empa e tswelapele
ka sebopeho se batlang se tshwana le sa Karolo ya

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13 ya Molao wa Dinyewe tsa Botlokotsebe tsa Matjhaba.

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Empa le yona e fetotswe hanyane, e
nolofaditswe ho ya ka pono ya ka.

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Le mona, motho o tlameha ho botsa: Sena se ka etsahala joang?

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Le ka tlohela karolo ea molao oa botlokotsebe
joalo ka moo joang, ebe le e fetola ka tsela e

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etsang hore e shebahale eka ke sekheo sa molao?

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Empa ka bokgutshwane, nka bolela feela hore ho sa natswe hore na
ke maqiti afe a molao a ka nnang a sebedisitswe

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moo, Karolo ya 26, ya ho Boloka Kgotso, ya Molao
wa Motheo wa Jeremane e sebetsa ka hohle-hohle.

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Mme ho hlakile hore le tokisetso ya ntwa ya
tlhaselo e lokela ho nkuwa e le tlolo ya molao.

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Ho lokile, seo se bolela hore ka nnete balaodi ba Bundeswehr ya
Jeremane ba entse tlolo ya molao mme ka hona ba lokela ho qoswa.

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Hantle-ntle, ke ntlha ea bohlokoa. Mme o tlameha ho e bona
hang-hang, ntle le tšireletso ea US ho batla ho sa khonehe.

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U ka boela oa mo bona liketsahalong tsa
semmuso, Sebokeng sa Boralitaba sa Federale, moo

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Gerhartz a lutseng pela Gutmann, ba lula moo 'moho.

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Ba kopana khafetsa, ba etsa litokisetso le tse ling tse ngata.

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Mme ruri hoa belaetsa hore motho ya nang le semelo
se belaetsang a ka fuwa boemo bo phahameng hakana.

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Ho feta moo, ke tlameha feela ho bolela hore Amy Gutmann e ne e
se feela hlooho ea Khomishene ea Mopresidente oa US ea Melao ea

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Boitšoaro ea Baeloji, e leng se neng se bolela hore o ne a na le
matla a tobileng holim'a liqeto tse mabapi le libetsa tsa

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baeloji, empa hape e ne e le mopresidente oa Univesithi ea
Pennsylvania ka lilemo tse ngata. E, ke naha e ka har'a USA.

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Ke univesithi e batlang e le kholo,
Univesithi ea Penn, Pennsylvania.

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Mme ke hlalositse ka botlalo bukeng 'Attack on the
Microbiome' kamoo dipatlisiso tsa dibetsa tsa baeloji di

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ntseng di etswa hajwale Univesithing ya Pennsylvania.

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Ha re batle ho kena ka botebo tabeng ena, kaha re
se re hlahisitse tlaleho ea Schöning mabapi le eona.

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Mme Univesithing ya Pennsylvania, ho na le
mofuputsi wa dibetsa tsa baeloji ya bitswang Henry Daniel.

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Mme jwale re kgutletse ntlheng eo hape.

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Sena se boetse se bolela hore likhoele kaofela li
lebile nqa e tšoanang 'me li boela li kopana

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hape, kahoo re hloka ho ela sena hloko ka ho khetheha.

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Mecha ea phatlalatso e ka sehloohong Jeremane ha e ele hloko
sena haholo, kapa ho e-na le hoo, ha e e ele hloko ho hang.

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Taba ena ea Taurus ha se ka ho itokisetsa ntoa ea
tlhaselo, ke hore, ha se ka letho le tsosang khang haholo,

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empa haholo-holo e mabapi le bohlōli bo etsoang ke Russia.

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Ehlile, sena se boetse se pata taba ea hore
e ka 'na eaba taba ena kaofela e ile ea

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tsamaisoa nqa ena ka tšehetso ea USA le ba bang.

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Mme ka tsela ena, e boetse e sebeletsa ho thetsa setjhaba.

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Mme tlhaho e phatlohang ya taba ena ha e so
ame setjhaba ka kakaretso sa Jeremane, ka

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kutlwisiso ya hore ha e so tsebahale haholo.

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Mme ntlha-kholo e ne e le yona eo, ya ho bitsa
ka potlako boipelaetso ho re: Hlokomelang, re

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mothating wa ntwa haeba re tswela pele tjena.

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Lijenerale tsa Mabotho a Hlometsoeng a Jeremane
li tlameha ho tlosoa maemong ana e le ho thibela

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lintho tse mpe ho feta hore li se ke tsa etsahala.

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Ke ka lebaka leo boipelaetso bona ba khotso
bo neng bo reretswe la 10 Hlakubele Berlin.

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Leha ho le jwalo, Heiko Schöning o ile a tshwarwa ke
mapolesa metsotso e mehlano pele ketsahalo e qala.

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Sena se etsahetse joang, kapa ke eng e neng e ka ba tšitiso?

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E, ke tlameha ho nahana hore mohala oa ka oa
selefouno le lipuisano tsa ka li mametsoe.

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Tabeng ena, ho ne ho hlakile hore ke tla ba sebui sa
pele boipelaetsong; joaloka sebui sa pele, ke ne ke tla

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boela ke bolele hore lintoa tsa tlhaselo lia thibeloa.

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E ne e le Molaoli Gerhartz le balaoli ba bang.
Ke tla kenya tletlebo ea botlokotsebe mapoleseng

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khahlanong le Ingo Gerhartz le balaoli ba bang.

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Mme o tlameha ho dula o kgutlela ho seo,
hobane dintho tse ding kaofela ke tshitiso.

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Ruri mona re sebetsana le papali, le mollo, le ntoa ea tlhaselo.

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E, le ho rera tlhaselo e joalo ho otleloa ka bonyane
lilemo tse leshome chankaneng. Mme ho qala ntoa ea

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tlhaselo ho otleloa ka ho koalloa chankaneng bophelo bohle, e.

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Mme re tlameha ho kena literateng, re tlameha ho bolela seo.

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Mme hoo e ne e le ka Sontaha Berlin, ka la 10 Tlhakubele,
ka hora ya bobedi thapama, ha ho ne ho lokela ho qala.

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Ke ne ke se ke le moo ka hora ea 12
motšehare Seterateng sa la 17 Phuptjane.

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Ke bohōle ba limithara tse ka bang 100 ho tloha
Monyakong oa Brandenburg, ka pel'a Sehopotso sa Ntoa sa Soviet.

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Ke buile le lepolesa leo ka tsela e
botsoalle mme ka mo bontša ID ea ka.

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Ke boletse hore ke mang. Ke 'na sebui sa pele
mona, 'me re ka beha thepa ea

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tlhahisoleseling kae? Tsohle li ne li lokile, ho lokile, e.

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E ne e reretsoe ho qala ka hora ea bobeli
thapama, kahoo kamorao ho lihora tse ka bang peli.

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Mme ra e itemohela: metsotso e ka bang mehlano ho isa
ho e leshome pele ho moo, mapolesa a ile a fihla ka

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tshohanyetso mme a mpotsa, kannete, e ne e le potso feela.

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– Na u ka rata ho tla ho tseba motho?
Leha ba ne ba tseba hantle hore ke mang.

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Mme ka re: Che, ha ke batle. Ha ke na nako ea hoo
hajoale. Ke batla ho bua mona, kahoo karabo ke che.

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Mme ba sa bue hore ba batla ho netefatsa boitsebiso ba
motho ya neng a batla dintlha tsa ka le aterese ya ka hape.

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Ke ne ke se ke ba file seo pele,
kapa hona, ba se ba ntse ba tseba sona.

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Seo se ne se sa lekana ho hang. E ne e le ka morero oa
ho sitisa lintho. Ke ne ke sa lokela ho fana ka puo ena.

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Ke ile ka huloa nako e fetang lihora
tse tharo, ebile e le ka mabifi ruri.

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Mme hape e le hole haholo, ho ya Hohenschönhausen, dikhilomithara
tse 15 ho tloha bohareng ba toropo ya Berlin, e, e hlile e

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le hole haholo, hoo nka beng ke fihlile feela bosiu se se setse.

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Ka lehlohonolo, re ile ra khona ho
lokisetsa hore ke ntse ke fane ka puo moo.

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Ke ka lebaka leo le wena o ka e mamelang.

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Tlhokomeliso! Ho itokisetsa ntoa ea tlhaselo hoa thibeloa!

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Empa ke leqheka feela la ho leka ho khelosa tlhokomelo.

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Hore batho ba bua ka liketsahalo
tse joalo, empa eseng ka se ka hare.

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Mme nka boela ka re: ho sa tsotellehe se
etsahetseng teng, dintwa tsa tlhaselo di thibetsoe.

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Ke qosa General Gerhartz le ba bang ka tlolo ya molao.

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Mme nka kgothaletsa moahi e mong le e mong feela
hore a ye diteisheneng tsa sepolesa ka sebele.

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Mme ka video ena hape, bopaki bo teng feela, bo
dumella motho ho re: Mona, ena ke tlolo ya molao e

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belaellwang, ke a e tlaleha – mme a mpa a ipiletsa molaotheong.

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E seng ho feta, e seng ho foka

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Hape ho bohlokoa hore re tsebise le
basebeletsi ba mmuso le liofisiri, ke hore

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mapolesa le basebeletsi ba mmuso, hore ho jwalo.

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Mme moahi e mong le e mong o lokolohile ho etsa jwalo haeba
moralo wa ntwa ya tlhaselo o hlakile hore o

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etsahetse mona, jwalo ka ha ho paka ka moqoqo
ona le ka tiisetso tse seng di filwe ke mmuso.

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Ha re ka ke ra dumella seo hore se etsahale.

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Kahoo e boetse e sebetsa e le tekanyo ho bontša hore:

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Rona, re le sechaba, re utloisisa sena.

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Rona, setjhaba, ha re tshehetse sena.

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Rona, re le sechaba, re leka ho itšireletsa.

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Ha ho etsoa joalo, ho bohlokoa hape ho tsebisa mapolesa le
mohlomong bo-ralipolotiki le ba bang e le hore feela ho ka qaloa

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ho etsa ho hong, e le hore ntoa e ka bang teng ea tlhaselo,
e kenyeletsang le ho nka karolo ha Majeremane, e ka emisoa.

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Ho nepahetse. Ke yona ntho ya bohlokwa feela, e.

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Mme e se ho etsa moromuwa le motho ya buang e le
disenyi, empa ho shebana le seo e leng sona, e.

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Mme hoo ke tlolo ya molao tlasa Karolo
ya 11 ya Molao wa Tshebeletso ya Sesole.

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Ke tlameha hape ho bolela sena ka ho hlaka haholo mona:

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Ho ya ka Karolo ya 11 ya Molao wa Masole, taelo ha e a
dumellwa ho phethahatswa haeba e ka ba tlolo ya molao.

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Ka hona, ho masole ohle le basebeletsi
ba mmuso: Reang! Che ntweng ya tlhaselo!

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O ipeha kotsing ea ho qosoa – re sa bue ka
litlamorao tsa boitšoaro le litlamorao tse ling.

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Joaloka ngaka, nka bolela feela hore, re bua ka
eng mona ka dirokete le ditlhase le ho qhomisa

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borokgo, ha sena se tla boela se jella maphelo a batho.

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Ha moroetsa oa cruise o kang Taurus o phatloha,
mocheso o fihla liketekete tsa likhato tsa Celsius.

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Batho baa chesoa. Baa khaoloa litho tsa 'mele le ho qhaqholloa.

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Ke sona seo re buang ka sona, e.

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Ha re e pheteleng hape ho bana
bana ba Rheinmetall ba se nang tsebo:

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Ha re bua ka litlhaselo tsa lirokete, re bua ka ho chesoa
le ho sehoa-sehoa ha batho, 'me seo ha se taba ea metlae.

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Ke ka lebaka leo, che!

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Kahoo, bo-'mè, bo-ntate, ha re na ho inehela ka
bana ba rona. Re'ng che 'me re eme bakeng sa khotso.