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Kufanele i-WHO inganikwa igunya eliyisisekelo
lokuthatha amandla angeziwe noma ukunikwa wona.

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Akukakafakazeki nje, kodwa lapha kudingeka umgijimo wokumisa.
Yima! Futhi kuphela lapho zonke amaphutha

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esixazululiwe singakhuluma ngezivumelwano
ezintsha, futhi impela hhayi ngaphambi kwalokho.

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Kulungile, kukhona enye iphuzu elibalulekile okufanele uligcine
engqondweni, okungukuthi lezi zinguquko zingavotwa kuphela

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uma inguqulo yokugcina yokuvota isithunyelwe eMhlanganweni
Wezempilo Yomhlaba okungenani izinyanga ezine ngaphambi.

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Ngakho-ke, lokho kusho ukuthi bekuzophikisana nemithetho yabo –
njengoba kuchazwe eSigabeni 55(2) seMithetho Yezempilo

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– futhi bekuzophikisana nemithetho yabo yenqubo
ye-WHO uma befuna ukuvota ngakho manje ekupheleni kukaMeyi.

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Yebo, izimfuneko zokuhlola zilula kakhulu uma uzibuka okokuqala.

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Okokuqala futhi okubaluleke kakhulu,
njengabantu besizwe, kumele sizibuze: ngabe sekwenziwe

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ukubuyekezwa okusebenzayo nhlobo? Yebo noma cha?

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Okwesibili, ngabe kulandelwe imithetho
esemthethweni yokuqugquzelela ye-WHO? Yebo noma cha?

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Futhi ngoba cha, kusho ukuthi angeke
ifakwe ekhetho. Kulula nje kanjalo.

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Kodwa manje unazo izimfuneko eziyisisekelo
zokukala, ezingakusiza ezingxoxweni futhi zikuvumele ukuthi

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uthi, yima, kuqala kufanele kwenzeke ukubuyekezwa.

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Futhi okwesibili, imithetho ye-WHO uqobo kumele ilandelwe.

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Okwesithathu, ngokwezinhloso zayo, i-WHO
ayinagunyaziwe nhlobo ukubangela umonakalo.

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Ngiyabonga kakhulu, Urs Hans, ngokuhlela
konke namuhla, mhlaka 20 Ephreli 2024.

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Inhloso ukulethela ukuhlaziywa kabusha ndawonye.

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Singakufeza lokhu kuphela ngemfundo,
ingcindezi kwezombusazwe nolwazi oluhle.

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Sawubona, Stefan. Futhi yilokho
okwenza sonke sikhona lapha namuhla.

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Kuyisithunzi esikhulu kimi ukukwazi
ukukhuluma nani lapha ngesihloko se-WHO.

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Futhi ngithanda ukuveza ukubonga kwami
okujulile kini nonke ngokuba lapha namuhla.

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Kuhle. Yebo, ngeshwa, le ndaba ye-WHO
iyisihloko esinemininingwane eminingi futhi esibanzi.

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Ngakho-ke, nginikezwe ngomusa imizuzu engama-40.

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Lona umkhathi wangempela, omusha ngempela, owakhiwa lapha.

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Uhlelo lwezempilo olusha ngempela.

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Futhi ukuze uqonde lokhu kahle, kudingeka ube
nokuqonda ngalokho okwenzekile kuze kube manje.

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Futhi-ke kufanele uqonde umongo jikelele
ukuze ungalahleki emininingwaneni eminingi.

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Siyazi ukuthi sikhuluma ngezivumelwano
ezimbili ze-WHO, futhi zigcwele iziphakamiso

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zokulungisa kanye neziphakamiso ezengeziwe zokulungisa.

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Futhi ngizama ukukunika isiqiniseko ngalolu daba.

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Lowo ngumsebenzi wami. Kodwa-ke,
awukwazi ukwenza lokho ngemizuzu engama-40.

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Ngizokwenza konke okusemandleni ami. Masiqale kafushane.

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Okokuqala, kumele sizibuze ukuthi sesihambe ibanga
elingakanani ekwamukeleni okwedlule lapha eSwitzerland.

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Kwaba nenkomfa enhle kakhulu ngalesi
sihloko ngomhlaka 6 Ephreli eBern.

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Ngingabhekisa kuphela
ezincazelweni eziningi ezinhle ezikhona lapho.

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Ngiphinde ngakhuluma kakhulu ngalokhu lapho.

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Akufanele sikhohlwe ukuthi, ngokombono wezomthetho nangokombono
wabantu abathintekayo, akukaze kube nemikhawulo emikhulu kangaka

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emlandweni waseSwitzerland, futhi ngithi nakulo lonke
umlando wanoma yiliphi izwe elidemokhrasi, kuyo yonke

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amalungelo ayisisekelo esinawo emthethosisekelo yethu.

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Futhi kunzima kakhulu kumuntu ngamunye.

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Sikhuluma lapha ngesibopho sokuhlala ekhaya, ukususwa
kwenkululeko, izinyathelo eziyingozi, ukugqoka

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imaski njalo, ikakhulukazi ezinganeni isikhathi
eside sezinyanga, nokucindezelwa ukuba ugonywe.

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Inkululeko yenkolo neyokuzazi kwangaphakathi yavinjwa kakhulu.

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Ngibona isikhulu senkolo lapha.

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Ngiyajabula kakhulu ukuthi ulapha.

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Siyakwamukela ngokufudumele kakhulu, Mbhishobhi, ngicabanga.

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Abaphristi nabashumayeli bavinjwe ukwamukela abakholwa
abangaphezu kwenani elincane elibekiwe ezindlini zabo

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zokukhulekela. Futhi lokhu kwenzeka ngesikhathi
se-Easter, ngaso sonke isikhathi. Kwathatha amasonto nezinyanga.

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Lokho kwakuwukwephulwa okukhulu kakhulu
kwenkululeko yenkolo nenkululeko yokuzazi.

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Ekugcineni, uhlu lonke lwamalungelo ethu lwathinteka
kakhulu ingxenye enkulu yabantu, futhi kwaba isikhathi eside.

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Futhi ngalokho, sikhuluma ngokwephulwa okukhulu kakhulu
kwamalungelo ayisisekelo okwake kwenzeka eSwitzerland.

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Futhi lokho kusho, ngaphezu kwalokho,
ukungenelela okukhulu kakhulu okungenzeka emnothweni.

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Lapho uMongameli weBhange Lesizwe laseSwitzerland, uThomas
Jordan, ephakamisa umunwe wokuxwayisa ngoMeyi 2020, ethi,

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"Qaphela, qaphela, sesiseduze nokudlula umkhawulo wamabhiliyoni
ayi-100 emalini yokweseka labo abasebenza emabhizinisini

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abavinjwe," khona-ke kumele nathi sicabangele lo mqondo.

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Futhi lokho kusho ukuthi ekungeneleni okukhulu
kangaka, umbuso unesibopho sokubika kubantu bakhe.

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Futhi lokho akukakenzeki kuze kube manje, futhi kumele
sikusho lokhu ngaphambi kokukhuluma ngemithetho

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emisha, ngaphambi kokukhuluma ngesivumelwano esisha se-WHO.

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Sasinazo izizathu kuphela.

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Besinokulinganiso kwe-PCR, okwakwaziwa kusukela ekuqaleni.
Ngiyakhumbula ingxoxo yephaneli eyaziwayo e-Aarau ngomhlaka 14

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Agasti, lapho uProfesa Marcel Tanner, ilungu leQembu Lomsebenzi
le-COVID-19 leKhomishana Kazwelonke futhi

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uMengameli we-Swiss Academy of Sciences, ephendula
ngokusobala nangokungangabazi umbuzo ovela kuSamuel Eckert:

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Yebo, ubona, ukuhlolwa kwe-PCR akunikezi ukuxilongwa
kwezokwelapha. Yilokho okubalulekile. Ngakho

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akulungile ukusho ukuthi ukuhlolwa okuhle kufakazela isifo.

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Sonke siyazi lokho. Ngamafuphi, engizama ukukusho wukuthi
wonke umuntu odinga ukwazi wayesewazi lokhu kusukela ehlobo

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okungenani, futhi iKhonsili Yezwe kwakufanele yazi ngalokhu.

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Ngokungeziwe, iNkantolo Kazwelonke nayo yaqinisekisa
lokhu ngo-2021 kulesi sinqumo, esaziwa nonke kahle.

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Futhi ukuthi yonke le nqubo yayingahleliwe kanjani,
yayingamahlazo ngokuphelele, kwavezwa kubo bonke ababekhona

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ohlelweni lwethu lwezingxoxo i-ARENA ngomhlaka 7 Januwari 2022.

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Kwathi-ke u-Ignazio Cassis, owayenguMongameli weNhlangano
yaseSwitzerland ngaleso sikhathi futhi eyudokotela ngomsebenzi,

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wathi: "Noma ubani oshonela engozini yemoto
futhi kutholakala ukuthi une-coronavirus, ukufa

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kwakhe kubalwa njengokufa okubangelwa i-coronavirus."

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Kwathi-ke umethuli wema kancane waphinda
wabuza, futhi yebo, kusho uCassis, "Yebo, kulungile,

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yilokho i-WHO eyenzile ngokuhlukanisa kwayo."

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Futhi konke lokhu kwaphakanyiswa ngempela yi-WHO; akuzange
kuvele nje, kuhlanganise nokuhlukaniswa kwamacala e-COVID-19.

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Futhi abezindaba bethu nabaphathi bezepolitiki
bahlale bebika kuphela ngezibalo eziphelele.

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Kulindeleke ukuthi ngesikhathi sokugula ngumkhuhlane ezweni
elinabantu abaningi abaneminyaka engaphezu kwengu-80 nengaphezu

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kwengu-90, abantu abambalwa abaningi kancane
kuleli qembu lobudala bazofa, kodwa uma

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kuqhathaniswa, le ntapandeni ayizange ibonakale.

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Konke lokhu kuholela ekwenqabeni
ukwamukela okwenzekile esikhathini esedlule.

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Futhi ngibhale lapha ifomula engiyibheka
njengokulula kakhulu, esetshenziswe kaningi ngami

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yizinkantolo, kodwa esebenza futhi emphakathini wonke.

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Futhi ngiyaqhubeka ngizwa okufanayo kubo bonke ozakwethu
nabangane bami, abathi kimi: "Bheka, ezikhathini zobhubhane,

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iziphathimandla kumele zinikezwe igunya elikhulu lokuzikhethela."

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Futhi inqobo nje uma iziphathimandla zilandela iziqondiso
ze-WHO, asikwazi futhi akufanele sikuphikise. Okuthile okunjalo.

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Yebo, futhi le ndawo yokuqala ikhombisa
indima ebaluleke kakhulu edlalwa yi-WHO lapho

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imemezela isimo esiphuthumayo ngenxa yobhubhane.

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Sekuyizolo.

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Abantu bayaphenduka, nezinkantolo ziyaphenduka
ekusebenzeni kwazo komsebenzi wemthethosisekelo

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wokubuyekeza, zivumela i-WHO ukuthi yenze ngendlela yayo.

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Lokho kwakusekunjalo esikhathini esedlule.

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Yebo, yingakho kuze kube namuhla kungakaze
kube nokuhlolwa kabusha kwalezi zinyathelo

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eziphuthumayo eziyingozi kakhulu ezake zenzeka.

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Futhi ngithanda ukugcizelela ukuthi
eSwitzerland sinomthethosisekelo osemncane kakhulu.

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Lena umthethosisekelo osanda kubuyekezwa kusukela ngonyaka ka-99.

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Yingakho inelungelo lokubusa
elikhethekile lezombusazwe zomphakathi.

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Futhi uma ubheka iSigaba 2, iyini inhloso yeKhonferenshini?

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Kungani iSwitzerland ikhona ngokombono wezomthetho?

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Khona-ke uzothola, njengoba ungakufunda futhi
ezintweni eziphathelene noMthethosisekelo omusha kazwelonke,

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ukuthi kunezinhloso ezine ezibalulekile ngokulinganayo.

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Ngakho-ke, ukuphepha ngaphansi kwe-Covid kuyinto eyodwa.

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Bese kuvikelwa inkululeko ngokuhlinzekwa
uhlu olude lwamalungelo ayisisekelo ekuqaleni.

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Ukuvikelwa komphakathi, okusho ukuthi akukho
ukuhlukaniswa komphakathi nokuvikelwa kwenhlalakahle.

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Manje ungabikezela: ngabe omunye
walemigomo ubaluleke kakhulu kunomunye?

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Cha, ukufundisa kusho ukuthi yonke
indaba ibalulekile ngokulinganayo.

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Akufanele kuvunyelwe muntu ukuthi athi
ukuphepha kumele kuhlale kubekwa phambili ngaphezu

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kwazo zonke izinto ngokulahlwa kwenkululeko.

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Le migaqo ebalulekile yokuqonda
iphuzu lokuqala lesimo esisibhekene naso.

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Futhi kufanele futhi siqaphele umgomo wokuthi
umbuso ukhona ukuze usekele izakhamuzi zawo,

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hhayi izakhamuzi ezikhona ukuze zisekele umbuso.

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Futhi lokho kwashiwo eminyakeni engaphezu kuka-2 000 edlule
ngummeli odumile nesenaRoma, uCicero, owasho

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ngokusobala nangokufingqa ukuthi umbuso ngesiRoma,
"res publica", uyindaba yabantu, "res populi".

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Futhi namuhla sisemkhathini lapho
siholelwa ekukholeni okuphambene nalokho.

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Akekho okufanele avunyelwe ukwenza sikholwe lokho.

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Futhi noma bangasibiza kanjani njengabantu
abagxile kakhulu kwelinye uhlangothi lwesokudla.

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Akuyona imbono yobuphimbi besokudla
ukusho ukuthi umbuso ukhona ngenxa yabantu.

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Akudingeki ukusho lokho. Kuhle.

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Futhi lokho kusho ukuthi uma iKhonsili Yezwe, iPhalamende,
izinkantolo, amacantoni kanye neziteshi zezindaba benqaba

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ukubhekana nalolu daba ngendlela efanele,
khona-ke okuthile okufana nalokho esisanda kukubona

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kungase kwenzeke futhi nganoma yisiphi isikhathi.

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Futhi yingakho kumele siqale sifunde izifundo.

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Akufanele siqhubeke nomthetho omusha wezifo
ezithathelana, izivumelwano zomhlaba wonke noma

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ukuzithoba e-EU, kodwa kunalokho sibuyekeze isimo.

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Ukuze kwandiswe ingcindezi yokwenza lesi
sibuyekezo, ngincoma kakhulu, ngempela ngiyakucela ukuthi

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usayine umkhankaso wesi sibuyekezo uma ungakayisayini.

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Ngiyacela, qiniseka ukuthi uyayibuyekeza. Ngiyabonga.

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Futhi bengingayiphetha lapha inkulumo, ngoba lokho kuyisho konke.

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Isifundazwe esenza ngaphandle komthetho asibona
ngokusemthethweni kunebhendi yamaqembu abaphangi.

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Futhi ngitshela izingane zami lokhu ukuze zibe nombono ongacacile
wokuthi zicabange kanjani ngeKhonsili Kazwelonke namacala.

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Kuzofanele bazibonakalise kabusha ngaphambi kokuba babuyise
ukwethenjwa kwami nokwethenjwa komndeni wami. Kulungile.

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Kubalulekile, futhi ngeshwa kubalulekile ekuqaleni,
ukuthi sibheke emuva kafushane futhi sikhumbule ukuthi

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lesi sincomo sokugonywa nge-mRNA asizange sivele nje.

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Lokhu akuzange kucutshungulwe ngabaphathiswa bezempilo ngokwabo,
kodwa kwavela ku-WHO. Futhi kuze kube muva nje, zonke lezi

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zincomo zazisazibonakala ekhasini lasekhaya ngokucaca okukhulu.

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Kukhona futhi umbhalo omncane okufanele uwufunde,
kodwa futhi kushiwo ukuthi imijovo yokugoma ye-COVID-19

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ihlangabezane nokuhlolwa okunzima. Ukuhlolwa okunzima.

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Lolu lwazi olubonakala ngokusobala ukuthi luyinkohliso.

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Lona ulwazi olungelona iqiniso olusobala oluvela
kule nhlangano yamazwe ngamazwe ethi yodwa inelungelo

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lokunquma ukuthi yini eqiniso nokuthi yini engamanga.

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Yebo. Futhi nazi ezinye izibonelo ezimbalwa.

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Futhi yingakho, ngoJulayi 2022, ngokusekelwe emsebenzini wethimba
wangaphansi konyaka nomthimba wami, kodwa futhi ngosizo olukhulu

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oluvela kochwepheshe bangaphandle, ngafaka
isimangalo sobugebengu ngokumelene

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neSwissmedic, ngoba eSwitzerland, sinabantu abaphethe.

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Sine umthetho ochaza izibopho ze-Swissmedic.

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Futhi i-Swissmedic ihlome ngobungcweti nezinsiza ukuze
ibone ukuthi lezi ziyizibulala-zilwanyana hhayi imijovo

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yokugoma. Izibulala-zilwanyana, hhayi imijovo yokugoma.

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Futhi manje ngingasho lokhu kalula nangokufingqa ngoba
sengichithe iminyaka emibili ngicwaninga ngakho futhi

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ubufakazi bami buyatholakala ukufundwa ku-inthanethi.

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Njengoba ngishilo, ngakwazi ukwenza lokhu kuphela ngenxa yeqembu
lami elivelele elibandakanya uDkt. iur. Markus Zollinger, uKati

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Schepis, abanye abasebenzi beqembu lami kanye
noprofesa abayishumi nambili kuya kweyishumi nanhlanu

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abavela emazweni akhuluma isiJalimane nesiNgisi.

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Futhi ngingathanda ukubonga nonke ngokujulile
enhliziyweni yami ngomsebenzi omangalisayo.

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Futhi sesikufakazele khona lapho. Ikakhulukazi enguqulweni
ebuyekeziwe, ongayithola ku-Inthanethi, kwacaca

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kusukela ekuqaleni, kwacaca kuzo zonke iziphathimandla
zokulawula kusukela ekuqaleni ukuthi lokhu ngeke kusebenze.

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Lokhu kuwumzamo. Awunalo ulawulo ngokunembile
ngalokho okukhiqizwa emzimbeni, ngobuningi,

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ekhwalithi nangokuthi kuzohlala isikhathi esingakanani.

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Wonke umuntu wayekwazi konke lokhu kusukela
ekuqaleni. Noma kunjalo, bavumela ukuthi kwenzeke.

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Ngiyacela ngokubonana ukuthi okungenani ufunde isifinyezo.

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Isifinyezo esiphezulu.
Inezinkulungwane ezimbili kuphela zamakhasi.

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Futhi kulabo abakhetha ukubamba okuthile
ezandleni zabo, kunenguqulo eshicilelwe etholakala

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ngaphandle ngama-franc angu-20 aseSwitzerland.

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Iqukethe konke okubalulekile, kunezandulelo
ezivela koProfesa abasekeli ababaluleke kakhulu.

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Omunye wabo ukhona lapha namuhla, uProfesa
Stefan Hockertz, kanye noProfesa Martin Haditsch,

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uProfesa Sönnichsen, uMichael Palmer nabanye.

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Iyatholakala lapha.

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Futhi lokho nakho kuyindlela
yokucindezela ukuze kuqhubekwe nokuhlolwa kabusha.

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Ngoba siyabona, sibona ini?

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Ukwethulwa kwe-mRNA kudlala indima ebaluleke
kakhulu kuMthetho Wezifo Ezibhubhane, futhi

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ngempela, ezivumelwaneni ezintsha ze-pandemic.

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Lena isisekelo sazo zonke izitozo ezizayo,
kuhlanganise nasesigabeni sokumelana nezibulala-magciwane,

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njengoba uDkt. Heiko Schöning asanda kusho manje.

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Yebo, futhi kungani lokho kubaluleke kangaka?

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Kubalulekile ngoba lapha sikhuluma ngezidakamizwa zokuhlola.

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Futhi ngenze, akusikho nje ukuthi akuzange kwenziwe mizamo.

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Kukhona ezinye izici ezintathu noma ezine
ezenza le nqubo ibe yeyokuhlola kakhulu.

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NgesiJalimane, bathi babengazi
ukuthi umphumela wokugcina uzoba kanjani.

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Futhi njengobuhlanga, sasikholelwa ukuthi ngeke siphinde
sivumele lokhu kwenzeke futhi kusukela eMpini Yezwe Yesibili.

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Futhi yingakho sakha iKhodi yaseNuremberg futhi safaka
emthethweni lesi sivumelwano samazwe ngamazwe

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ngamalungelo ezakhamuzi nawepolitiki, Isigaba 7, esisebenza kuzo
zonke izimo, ngisho nasezimo eziphuthumayo zomphakathi.

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Futhi lo mthetho obalulekile wokuvikela abantu ekubandakanyekeni,
kuhlanganise nokubandakanyeka okungazelelwe

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ezilingweni, waphulwa izigidi zamahlandla
ngoba abantu banikezwa ulwazi olungelona iqiniso.

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Baxukunyiswa futhi bacindezelwa.

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Lena yisiqalo esibhekana naso sonke.

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Futhi ngibheka nje eSwitzerland, ikusasa.

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Lena ingxenye evela kuMthetho Wezifo Ezibhubhane,
uMthetho Wezifo Ezibhubhane osanda kuphakanyiswa.

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Kukhona isihloko esisha 6c, isigaba 1, incwadi b.

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Futhi iKhonsili Kazwelonke ifuna ukuba nekhono lokuphoqa
odokotela nabapharmasisti ukuba banikeze abantu

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lezi zinto zokuhlola, ngokusekelwe kulokho
ebibona njengezifundo ezifundwe esikhathini esedlule.

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Ngakho-ke ufuna ukuphoqa odokotela ukuthi bagonyele
abantu ngaphandle kokubanika ulwazi olwanele, ngokucacile.

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Yebo, futhi nansi thina sesiphakathi nendawo yayo.

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Okokuqala, kumele sicabangele ukuthi yiziphi
izigunyazi zeNhlangano Yezempilo Yomhlaba.

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Kuchazwe kahle kakhulu eSigabeni 1 soMthethosisekelo wabo:

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Inhloso yoMbutho Wezempilo Wezwe ukusiza bonke abantu
bafinyelele esimweni sempilo esingcono kakhulu esingaba khona.

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Maduzane uzokwazi ukuthi lokhu akubandakanyi ini.

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Lokhu akubandakanyi ukunikeza abantu ulwazi
olungelona iqiniso, ukuphoqa abantu ukuthi

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basebenzise into ethile, kanye nokuncoma izinto ezinobuthi.

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Ngakho-ke akufanele ubangele
umonakalo. Lona ngumgomo obaluleke kakhulu.

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Iyi-umzimba ophethe futhi ohlela, futhi
isebenza kuphela njengeseluleko. Yilokho okuyisiqalo.

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Lokhu kusho ukukhuthaza ukuvikelwa kwempilo yabantu
ngokuhambisana nolwazi oluhle kakhulu olutholakalayo nemikhuba

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emihle kakhulu, kubhekwa okutholakele okusha,
futhi, ngemva kwesikhathi eside senhlekelele,

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ukwenza ukubuyekezwa okujulile nokuzihlaziya.

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I-WHO bekufanele yenzile lokhu yona uqobo, kodwa ayizange.

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Ngokungeziwe, akuyona inhlangano ephakeme kunamazwe,
kodwa iyinhlangano yamazwe ngamazwe kahulumeni nje kuphela,

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futhi ngaphezu kwakho konke, ayinayo imonopoli yolwazi.

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Nokho, uyazibheka konke lokhu futhi, ngaphezu kwalokho,
kumele ahloniphe amalungelo ayisisekelo futhi, njengoba kumele

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ngigcizelele kaningi, kumele ahlale ebuyekeza izenzo zakhe.

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Lezi yizono ezinzima kakhulu, engazenzanga yena.

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Akufanele nakanjani kubangele noma yiluphi uhlupho.

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Eminyakeni emine nengxenye edlule, uzihlekisile ngokuphelele
ngokuphakamisa kaningi izinto ezinobuthi njengesisombululo

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esisodwa kuphela ekulweni nalowo mcimbi obizwa ngokuthi insongo.

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Futhi lapha sifika esitatimendeni sokuqala esibalulekile.

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Kufanele i-WHO inganikwa igunya lokuthatha
ngenkani noma ukunikezwa amandla angeziwe.

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Akukakaze kufakazwe nje, kodwa lapha kudingeka umgijimi ophelele.

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Yima! Misa! "After Action Review" ngolimi lwezempi.

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Futhi kuphela lapho zonke amaphutha esixazululiwe singakhuluma
ngezivumelwano ezintsha, futhi impela hhayi ngaphambi kwalokho.

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Kulungile, njengomphumela wesikhashana,
engisanda kukusho kufingqiwe lapha futhi.

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Ngaphandle kokubuyekezwa, akukho izifundo ezifundwayo.
Futhi impela akukho izinkontileka zesifo esithathela umhlaba.

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Kulesi simo, kwabanjwa ivoti eKhanselini Kazwelonke
yaseSwitzerland ngesonto eledlule mayelana

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nokuthi iPhalamende laseSwitzerland kumele
livunyelwe yini ukuxoxa ngesivumelwano se-pandemic.

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Futhi akudingeki ukusho ukuthi umuntu wenza kanjalo.

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Ngifuna nje ukukwazisa ukuthi i-SP namaGreen Liberals
bakhulume ngokuphelele ngokumelene nengxoxo ePhalamende.

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Kuyihlazo lokweqiniso kwezombusazwe ukungafuni
ukubona ukuthi iKhonsili Yezwe ixoxisana ngani.

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Ngenhlanhla, iningi lahlala linengqondo,
kanti zonke ezinye izinhlangothi zagcizelela

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ngokuphelele ukuthi kube nengxoxo ePhalamende.

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Uyazi, i-World Health Organisation
ingomunye weminyakazo engaphansi engu-17.

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Sikhuluma ngezivumelwano ezimbili
ezizokwakhiwa manje, isivumelwano esisha ngokuphelele.

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Kwakukhona izinguqulo ezahlukene, kusukela mhla
zingama-30 ku-Okthoba ngonyaka odlule, kwaze kwaba

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ezinsukwini ezimbalwa ezedlule, inguqulo yango-13 Mashi.

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Manje nje, izinsuku ezimbili noma ezintathu
ezedlule, inguqulo ka-Ephreli isivele

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yavela. Empeleni, izinsuku ezimbalwa nje ezedlule.

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Ngikhuluma lapha ngezimiso ezibaluleke
kakhulu, ezifana nalezi ezinguqulweni.

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Ungakhathazeki, angiqhathanisi izinguqulo ezahlukene lapha.

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Kubalulekile ukuqaphela ukuthi lesi
sivumelwano sobhubhane siyisivumelwano esisha

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ngokuphelele ngaphansi komthetho wamazwe ngamazwe.

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Futhi ezivumelwaneni zamazwe ngamazwe ezintsha,
kusebenza inqubo yokuvunywa emthethweni kazwelonke.

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Ngakho-ke kudingeka ingxoxo ePhalamende.

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Lokhu sekushiwo eMthethosisekelo we-WHO.

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Lokho kucabangwe kahle kakhulu.

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Kumele nje kuqondwe.

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Amalungu ePhalamende kumele futhi
azimisele ukubamba iqhaza kulesi siphikiswano.

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Futhi kunezinyanga eziyishumi nesishiyagalombili
zokwenza kanjalo, kuze kube ngomhlaka 1 Disemba 2025.

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Kodwa-ke, lokhu kuzoncika ekutheni ngabe kuyovotwa nhlobo.

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Manje eMhlanganweni Wezempilo Yomhlaba Wonke ekupheleni kukaMeyi.

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Lo Meyi, oseza kufika manje, usaphambi kwethu.

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Okwesibili nakho kuyisivumelwano samazwe ngamazwe.

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Ngokombono wobuchwepheshe kuphela, kuwumqulu wamazwe ngamazwe.

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Nokho, imithetho yezempilo yamazwe ngamazwe isebenza
kusukela ngo-2005 futhi kulindeleke ukuthi ibuyekezwe.

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Ehlelwe kabusha, sinenguqulo eyodwa kuphela
etholakala njengamanje ngokusemthethweni

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kuwebhusayithi ye-WHO, enomhla wokuphela kukaNovemba 2022.

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Futhi le nguqulo nayo ayiyona inguqulo yokuqala.

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Enye indlela yokuvota kungaba ukuvumelana
ngamagama, ukuthi yiziphi izihloko ezizoshintshwa,

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ngokushintshwa okukodwa ngesikhathi, bese kubekwa ekhethweni.

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Sithini esinakho? Esinakho lapha kuwumxube wezinhlobo
eziningi ezingakholeki zento ngayinye, okusebenza njengesisekelo

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sokuxoxa nokuxoxisana, kodwa okungeke kufaneleke ekhethweni.

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Lokho yilokho esikukhuluma ngakho thina,
nami mathupha, eminyakeni emibili edlule.

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Ngakho-ke, yini enye esinayo? Khona-ke
sinombhalo ongasemthethweni, ohlisiwe kancane

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ngokwokuqukethwe, kodwa awukashicilelwa obala.

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Futhi lapha, asikakabi nenguqulo yokugcina,
inguqulo esingayisho ukuthi manje siyiyisa eNhlanganweni

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Yezempilo Yomhlaba ukuze ivotwe; yilona isisekelo.

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Cha, lokho akuyona isisekelo esifanele sokuvota.

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Kubalulekile futhi ukuqaphela ukuthi le migomo
yezempilo yakhelwe njengemigomo yobuchwepheshe

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kuphela ngokuhambisana noMthethosisekelo we-WHO.

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Futhi yilokho kuphela okusekela ukuthi singakwamukela lokhu
eMhlanganweni Wezempilo Emhlabeni wonke ngokuba ne-quorum elula,

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okungukuthi amaphesenti angu-51, ivoti elinengi lawo wonke
amazwe amalungu, ngokuphambene nesivumelwano esidinga

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i-quorum yezingxenye ezimbili kwezintathu, umkhawulo ophakeme.

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Ngakho-ke, lapha abantu bathi cha, lezi ziqondiso zobuchwepheshe
nje kuphela, zimayelana namazinga nemininingwane

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emincane engathakazelisi muntu, lapho odokotela bejabule nje
ukuthi zibhalwe kwenye indawo ukuze bakwazi ukuzibheka.

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Lena yiyo kuphela imbangela yokuphathwa
ngale ndlela enezinzuzo ezikhethekile kakhulu.

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Ngokungeqondile, ngoDisemba odlule, engxoxweni e-Neue Zürcher
Zeitung, umxoxiswano omkhulu waseSwitzerland, uNora Kronig,

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wabhekisa kulokhu wathi lezi zinguquko ezincane kuphela,
ngakho-ke kwakungekho sidingo sokuxoxa kabanzi, sokunikeza ulwazi

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noma, impela, sokubanjwa kwe-referendamu phakathi kwabantu.

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Yebo, futhi ngizokukhombisa manje ukuthi
konke okunye kunjalo, konke okunye kulungile.

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Lapha, lokhu ukwelashwa okukhethekile.

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Okubaluleke kakhulu ukuthi lezi zinguquko
zisebenze ngokuzenzakalelayo ezinyangeni

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eziyishumi nambili emva kokwamukelwa kwazo.

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Ziyizilungiso zobuchwepheshe kuphela.

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Futhi uma kuyizinguquko zokuphatha
kuphela noma zobuchwepheshe, kungaba kuhle.

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Kodwa hhayi izinguquko ezineziphumo
ezinzima kakhulu kithi maqondana nokuqukethwe.

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Ngakho-ke, ukufingqa, ukulungiswa kwesivumelwano
samazwe ngamazwe esivele sikhona kudinga iningi elilula.

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Umthethosisekelo we-WHO awukhulumi ngokuqinisekiswa
ngokwalo, yingakho asikaziswa ngalokhu nhlobo kuze kube manje.

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Futhi konke engikubonile kuze kube manje, imibuzo evela
kubaphathi bezepolitiki baseSwitzerland eFederal Council,

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kuhlanganise noNksz. Nora Kronig, kuthiwani lokhu, bafuna ini?

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Akuzange kube nempendulo nhlobo. Akuzange
kube noma yikuphi okuqukethwe, noma ukucaciswa

286
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kwangempela okuvela eKhonsilini Kazwelonke.

287
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Ngakho-ke thina, njengabantu bonke,
sisahlala singazi ngalokhu okuqukethwe.

288
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Futhi yingakho kubaluleke kangaka ukubamba lo mcimbi.

289
00:26:12,967 --> 00:26:21,442
Kulungile, kukhona enye iphuzu elibalulekile okufanele ligcinwe
engqondweni, okungukuthi lezi zinguquko zingavotwa kuphela

290
00:26:21,442 --> 00:26:29,901
uma inguqulo yokugcina yokuvota isithunyelwe eMhlanganweni
Wezempilo Yomhlaba okungenani izinyanga ezine ngaphambi.

291
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Ngakho-ke lokho kuzoba ukuvota ekupheleni kukaMeyi,
kanti inguqulo yokugcina izoba ekupheleni kukaJanuwari 2024.

292
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:44,589
Kodwa lokho akutholakali. Konke esikuzwayo
ukuthi siyaxoxisana, siyaxoxisana, siyaxoxisana.

293
00:26:44,589 --> 00:26:52,663
... Ngakho-ke, lokho kusho ukuthi bekuzophikisana nemithetho yabo
uqobo – lokhu kubhalwe eSigabeni 55, Isigaba 2 seMithetho

294
00:26:52,663 --> 00:27:00,940
Yezempilo – bekuzophikisana nemithetho yabo ye-WHO yokuqugquzelela
uma befuna ukuvota ngakho manje ekupheleni kukaMeyi.

295
00:27:00,940 --> 00:27:13,183
Ngakho-ke, uDkt. Silvia Behrendt nenhlangano yakhe, i-Global
Health Responsibility Agency, babhale incwadi evulekile kuTedros,

296
00:27:13,183 --> 00:27:21,150
uNobhala-Jikelele, bemcasula ngalokhu ngqo
futhi bethi: "Unesibopho sokuqinisekisa

297
00:27:21,150 --> 00:27:26,053
ukuthi kulandelwa imithetho yenqubo ye-WHO."

298
00:27:26,053 --> 00:27:34,055
Awukwazi ukuvumela lezi zinguquko zivotwe emasontweni ambalwa
ezayo ngaphandle kokuthi noma ubani, noma

299
00:27:34,055 --> 00:27:41,137
yiliphi izwe, libe nethuba lokuzihlola
ngaphakathi ukuthi lezi zinguquko zisho ukuthini kithi.

300
00:27:41,137 --> 00:27:49,082
Ngakho-ke, lokho esikwenzayo lapha, ngokwezinga elithile,
kuwukubikezela okuzayo, ngoba singakwazi kuphela ukuhumusha lezi

301
00:27:49,082 --> 00:27:56,636
zinguquko eziphakanyisiwe futhi siqaphele ukuthi, kuze kube
manje, ithimba lezingxoxo laseSwitzerland alikaze lithi,

302
00:27:56,636 --> 00:28:04,777
ngempela, yebo, asizithandi lezi zinguquko eziphakanyisiwe,
Sifuna ngempela ukuvikela amalungelo abantu, sifuna ukuthi umgomo

303
00:28:04,777 --> 00:28:12,657
wokwahlukaniswa kwamandla ucatshangelwe, sifuna ngempela
ukunciphisa le nto emangalisayo yokungahleleki, lo mandla adlula

304
00:28:12,657 --> 00:28:20,276
umda e-WHO, ngokusebenzisa igunya lokwengamela noma lokulawula,
futhi ngaphezu kwakho konke, akufanele sivumele i-WHO

305
00:28:20,276 --> 00:28:27,180
yodwa ukuthi inqume ukuthi yiluphi ulwazi emkhakheni
wezempilo lonke olulungile nokuthi yiluphi olungelona.

306
00:28:27,180 --> 00:28:32,080
Angikakuzwa lokhu emlonyeni wanoma
yimuphi umgcinimafa eSwitzerland.

307
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:35,400
Kodwa bekufanele utshele kanjalo, ngoba awuvumelani nakho.

308
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:37,420
Futhi yingakho sidinga ukukhuluma ngakho.

309
00:28:37,420 --> 00:28:42,622
Yebo, izimfuneko zokuhlola zilula kakhulu uma uzibuka okokuqala.

310
00:28:42,622 --> 00:28:46,855
Okokuqala futhi okubaluleke kakhulu,
njengabantu besizwe, kumele sizibuze: ngabe sekwenziwe

311
00:28:46,855 --> 00:28:49,160
ukubuyekezwa okusebenzayo nhlobo? Yebo noma cha?

312
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:54,400
Okwesibili, ngabe kulandelwe imithetho
esemthethweni yokuqugqulwa kwe-WHO? Yebo noma cha?

313
00:28:54,400 --> 00:29:00,256
Futhi ngoba cha, kusho ukuthi angeke
ifakwe ekhethweni. Kulula nje kanjalo.

314
00:29:00,256 --> 00:29:04,403
Akukhona ngisho nangesivumelwano se-pandemic, ngoba zixhumene.

315
00:29:04,403 --> 00:29:12,720
Zixhumene kakhulu. Isivumelwano esisha se-pandemic
nokuguqulwa kwemithetho yezempilo kuxhumene kakhulu.

316
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:17,026
Lokho kusho ukuthi uma ungavunyelwe ukuvota
entweni eyodwa, khona-ke awuvunyelwe ukuvota

317
00:29:17,026 --> 00:29:19,700
nakweyomunye, ngoba zombili zixhumene ngokwengqondo.

318
00:29:19,700 --> 00:29:23,323
Kulungile. Lokho kusho ukuthi ngaphansi kwanoma yiziphi
izimo akufanele sigijime ngokungacabangi senyukele

319
00:29:23,323 --> 00:29:25,480
enkinga elandelayo. Akukho nhlobo isizathu sokwenza njalo.

320
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:31,414
Lapha kumele siphoqe i-veto, sikhombisa
abaphathi bethu bezepolitiki leli phuzu uqobo.

321
00:29:31,414 --> 00:29:51,900
Futhi-ke, ngokungeqondile, sinedemokhrasi
ehloniphekile futhi esebenza kahle eSwitzerland.

322
00:29:51,900 --> 00:30:00,240
Futhi lokhu kungabonakala ezinhlinzekweni eziningi. Futhi
ngokuvamile, lokhu akuzange kusebenze kabi esikhathini esedlule.

323
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:04,282
Futhi bekuzoba kwezobuchwepheshe
kakhulu ukuchaza konke lokhu manje.

324
00:30:04,282 --> 00:30:13,597
Kodwa ukuze kube lula, zonke lezi zinhlinzeko eziholela noma
eziphendula umbuzo othi – Singakwazi yini,

325
00:30:13,597 --> 00:30:22,192
thina njengabantu, ukubamba iqhaza ekudalweni
komthetho? – zihlala ziqala endaweni efanayo.

326
00:30:22,192 --> 00:30:30,558
Okungukuthi, kuze kufike kuphi umthetho noma isivumelwano samazwe
ngamazwe ekungeneleleni esimweni sethu

327
00:30:30,558 --> 00:30:38,481
somthetho, futhi kuze kufike kuphi amandla
kahulumeni okuthatha izinyathelo azokwehliswa?

328
00:30:38,481 --> 00:30:44,134
Futhi ukuphazamiseka kungakanani kusakhiwo
sonke samandla? – Njengoba kuchazwe

329
00:30:44,134 --> 00:30:48,880
umthethosisekelo wethu, ekwakhiweni kokwahlukaniswa kwamandla.

330
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:52,780
Ngakho-ke, lapho umthelela walokhu kungenelela
ukhula, khona-ke ilungelo lokuba nelizwi liyakhula.

331
00:30:52,780 --> 00:30:55,360
Futhi siyithola lokhu emibandleni ehlukahlukene.

332
00:30:55,360 --> 00:31:03,646
Isigaba 164 lapha sibanzi kancane, sisho nje ukuthi umthetho
njalo usho ukuthi abantu kufanele babe nethuba lokuzwakala,

333
00:31:03,646 --> 00:31:08,000
okungenani ngaphakathi kohlu lwe-referendamu okukhethwayo.

334
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:13,698
Umbuzo obalulekile uwukuthi ingabe i-WHO
ezayo izokwazi yini ukunciphisa ngisho

335
00:31:13,698 --> 00:31:17,600
nezimiso eziyisisekelo zomthethosisekelo wethu.

336
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:20,082
Futhi kunezimiso eziyisisekelo.

337
00:31:20,082 --> 00:31:29,347
Uma uqede isikole nganoma yisiphi isikhathi eminyakeni
engu-230 edlule, ngeke kube sekuphutheni kwakho. Akunjalo?

338
00:31:29,347 --> 00:31:35,969
Khona-ke uzobe uqaphele ukuthi kuzo zonke izifundazwe zethu
zedemokhrasi kwenziwa imizamo yokuvimbela ukusetshenziswa kabi

339
00:31:35,969 --> 00:31:42,048
kwamandla nokuziphatha ngokungahleliwe ngangokunokwenzeka
ngokwahlukaniswa kwamandla, ngomgomo wobuzwe, ngomgomo

340
00:31:42,048 --> 00:31:45,647
wobufanele bomthetho kanye nokuvikelwa kwamalungelo ayisisekelo.

341
00:31:45,647 --> 00:31:48,481
Sinakho lokhu kuchazwe
ngokunembile kakhudlwana kumsoco wethu lapha.

342
00:31:48,481 --> 00:31:55,940
Le migaqo yonke icacisiwe kahle futhi
isekelwe ngemibandela esemthethweni yokuyisebenzisa.

343
00:31:55,940 --> 00:32:01,002
Ukuhlukaniswa kwamandla, kanye nemithetho
yezigameko ebanzi ngalesi sihloko, kanye nomgomo

344
00:32:01,002 --> 00:32:04,515
wokusemthethweni sekuthathe indawo komgomo wokuzithandela.

345
00:32:04,515 --> 00:32:07,679
Amalungelo abantu kumele avikelwe ngempumelelo.

346
00:32:07,679 --> 00:32:09,360
Akufanele kube nokucwasa.

347
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:12,864
Yebo, amakanton ngokuyisisekelo azimele.

348
00:32:12,864 --> 00:32:17,933
Futhi ezingeni labo, baphatha
izinqubomgomo zezempilo ngokuzimela.

349
00:32:17,933 --> 00:32:27,864
Futhi uhulumeni kumele akwazi ukusetha izinto ezibalulekile zakhe
uqobo, futhi akadingi ukutshelwa ukuthi yiliphi uhlobo olusha

350
00:32:27,864 --> 00:32:37,952
lwegciwane okufanele alulandele ngaphambi kokuba akwazi futhi
ukusebenzisa izimali zakhe ezikoleni noma ezibhedlela zakhe.

351
00:32:37,952 --> 00:32:45,287
Ngamafuphi, lokhu kuyihlelo lokulawula okufanele thina,
ikakhulukazi abezepolitiki, abameli, bonke

352
00:32:45,287 --> 00:32:53,920
abasemagunyeni nabathathi-zinqumo, silibeke, ngokuhambisana
nezinhlelo zokulawula zesayensi nezokwelapha, impela.

353
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:58,624
Kodwa lezi izimiso ezingathathi
hlangothi esingazixoxa ngazo ngokuqinisekile.

354
00:32:58,624 --> 00:33:08,049
Ngakho-ke, futhi ngisho, ukholo lwami kuyo yonke lezi
zinkulumo ukukubonisa ukuthi izisekelo ezibaluleke kakhulu

355
00:33:08,049 --> 00:33:12,425
zomthethosisekelo, ngokudabukisayo, zingamiswa (zisuswe).

356
00:33:12,425 --> 00:33:21,061
Ngakho-ke, kumele sikubuze nina nonke izakhamuzi, bantu
abahloniphekile, ukuthi ngabe nivuma yini nhlobo

357
00:33:21,061 --> 00:33:29,222
ukudlulisela amandla ezingeni eliphezulu
kangaka ngaphandle kokuba nethuba lokuwabuyisa futhi.

358
00:33:29,222 --> 00:33:32,640
Lokho, ngamafuphi, yilokho konke lokhu okukhuluma ngakho.

359
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:37,696
Futhi i-referendamu eyimpoqo,
okuyiyona ukusetshenziswa kobuchwepheshe.

360
00:33:37,696 --> 00:33:40,864
Ngokufingqa nje, sinazo lezi zinkontileka ezimbili.

361
00:33:40,864 --> 00:33:46,535
Iningi elilula liyanele ukulungisa imithetho
yezempilo ngoba kuthiwa ingokwezobuchwepheshe kuphela,

362
00:33:46,535 --> 00:33:50,238
kanti isivumelwano sobhubhane lidinga iningi elingu-2/3.

363
00:33:50,238 --> 00:33:59,420
Sikhuluma ngokuvota okuhleliwe ekupheleni kukaMeyi,
evikini lokugcina lukaMeyi, cishe emasontweni amahlanu ezayo.

364
00:33:59,420 --> 00:34:04,920
Futhi-ke izinguquko kuMthetho Wezempilo Womhlaba
Wonke kufanele ziqale ukusebenza ngokuzenzakalelayo.

365
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:09,100
Ngokuphambene nalokho, isivumelwano
esisha sidinga inqubo yokuvunywa.

366
00:34:09,100 --> 00:34:12,093
Ngakho-ke, yini okuqukethwe ngokujwayelekile?

367
00:34:12,093 --> 00:34:18,368
Ngingachaza kuphela okuqukethwe ngokujwayelekile
ngokufingqa, kodwa kumayelana neshishini elikhulu kakhulu.

368
00:34:18,368 --> 00:34:24,060
Lapha kusungulwa imboni yangempela yezifo ezithathelana.

369
00:34:24,060 --> 00:34:25,540
Lokho kucatshangwe kahle kakhulu.

370
00:34:25,540 --> 00:34:28,440
Ngakho-ke uma uyifunda ngokwakho, uzoqonda.

371
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:35,352
Kuqala lapha ngaphansi kwesihloko, kushiwo ukuthi into embi
kakhulu eyayizokwenzeka kithi ngaphansi kwe-Covid

372
00:34:35,352 --> 00:34:42,340
kwakuwukuthi besingakwazi ukuhlinzeka wonke umuntu
ngenani elifanayo lomjovo wokugoma ngesikhathi esisodwa.

373
00:34:42,340 --> 00:34:46,781
Ukusatshalaliswa kwezimali akuzange kube nokulingana.

374
00:34:46,781 --> 00:34:49,312
Igama elithi 'equity' laqanjwa ngenhloso yalokhu.

375
00:34:49,312 --> 00:34:53,260
Ubulungisa obusekelwe ekulinganeni
kufanele kube ubulungisa bokwabiwa.

376
00:34:53,260 --> 00:35:01,961
Bathi kwakubi kakhulu, kwakuyingozi kakhulu, kwakungafa
abantu abayizigidi eziningi kakhulu, kumele sinike i-WHO igunya

377
00:35:01,961 --> 00:35:07,976
lokuthatha izinqumo. Kulungile, lawa ngama-mveliso akhiqizwayo.

378
00:35:07,976 --> 00:35:14,121
Ngakho-ke sikhuluma ngezinto zomuthi wokugoma
ezisekelwe ku-mRNA, ngezinto zokuxilonga,

379
00:35:14,121 --> 00:35:17,800
noma yiziphi izinhlobo zemikhiqizo yobhubhane.

380
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,080
I-WHO kufanele ivunyelwe ukunquma konke lokhu.

381
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:27,028
Amalungu e-WHO kumele ngaso sonke isikhathi bathumele uhlu
lokusetshenziswa ku-inthanethi, ngokuthi, ukuze i-WHO ikwazi

382
00:35:27,028 --> 00:35:33,366
ukuhlola ukuthi iSwitzerland idinga yini ukunikeza okwengeziwe,
noma ukuthi izimpahla kufanele zithunyelwe e-Afrika.

383
00:35:33,366 --> 00:35:36,985
Futhi ama-Afrika anezinsiza ezimbalwa kancane,
ngakho adinga ukuthola ukwesekwa okwengeziwe kancane.

384
00:35:36,985 --> 00:35:41,280
Yilokho okufihliwe kulesi simo, ubulungisa.

385
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:47,561
Khona-ke izifundazwe kumele, futhi lokhu
kuyabonakala kakhulu, kakhulu, ngempela—ngizokubeka

386
00:35:47,561 --> 00:35:52,360
kanjani—ku-Epidemic Act entsha, kumele zihlale zibheka imvelo.

387
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:57,528
Amagciwane angabangela izifo angahlala engasebenzi
noma kuphi: angahlala engasebenzi ebantwini,

388
00:35:57,528 --> 00:36:00,560
emvelweni, emanzini angcolile, nasemhlabeni wezilwane.

389
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:07,155
Nansi-ke, umbandela onzima kuwo
esiphakanyisweni sokulungiswa koMthetho Wezifo Ezibhubhane:

390
00:36:07,155 --> 00:36:12,537
IKhonsili Kazwelonke kufanele ikwazi ukuphoqa
zonke izikhungo ukuthi zihlolisise amanzi

391
00:36:12,537 --> 00:36:16,320
angcolile ukuze kutholakale amagciwane abangela izifo.

392
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:21,700
Okungukuthi, ukusebenzisa indlela yokulandelana kwe-genome.

393
00:36:21,700 --> 00:36:32,846
Ngakho-ke, uya ezingeni lama-athomu futhi uzama ukusebenzisa
ukuhlolwa kwe-PCR emanzini angcolile – futhi, njengokufunda

394
00:36:32,846 --> 00:36:40,277
amakhasi eti – ukuze wakhe ubufakazi
besongo, ngokususelwa kukho iKhonsili Yezwe

395
00:36:40,277 --> 00:36:45,840
kufanele ivunyelwe ukumemezela isimo esiphuthumayo.

396
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,540
Lokho kuwukuzikhethela ngokungahleliwe ngokomgomo.

397
00:36:48,540 --> 00:36:54,460
Futhi lokho kungenza ngingcangcazele njengommeli, ngoba
ngokuvamile ngiyazonda ukuzithathela izinqumo ngokungahleliwe,

398
00:36:54,460 --> 00:36:57,077
futhi kakhulu njengesisekelo somthetho wezimo eziphuthumayo.

399
00:36:57,077 --> 00:36:59,720
Akufanele kwenzeke.

400
00:37:06,820 --> 00:37:14,008
Ngakho-ke kuwumthwalo wokuphazamiseka kwengqondo
ngempela ukuqapha unomphela zonke izicubu

401
00:37:14,008 --> 00:37:18,460
zamanzi angcolile ngaphandle kwanoma yiziphi izithiyo.

402
00:37:18,460 --> 00:37:21,853
Konke lokhu kuhamba ngaphansi kwegama elithi One Health.

403
00:37:21,853 --> 00:37:29,873
Impilo yonke yomhlaba – konke kuxhumene, phela – izilwane,
abantu, imvelo, uMhlaba, futhi kuyafinyelela ngisho ekushintsheni

404
00:37:29,873 --> 00:37:34,918
kwesimo sezulu. Ukushintsha kwesimo sezulu
kanye nezinga le-CO2 nakho kufanele

405
00:37:34,918 --> 00:37:38,650
kuvunyelwe ukuba kube yizizathu zesimo esiphuthumayo.

406
00:37:38,650 --> 00:37:46,280
Futhi konke lokhu kumele kwabelwane ngakho – imiphumela,
amagciwane atholwe – kudathabheyisi yamazwe ngamazwe.

407
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:48,040
Ungakubona lokho. Futhi manje nansi.

408
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:52,768
Manje kusadingeka ukwenza ucwaningo nentuthuko.

409
00:37:52,768 --> 00:37:58,240
Ngamanye amazwi, ucwaningo nokuthuthukiswa
kwezifo ezingaba khona eziya ziba yingozi kakhulu.

410
00:37:58,240 --> 00:38:05,603
Lokhu kungokuthi "gain-of-function". Lokhu
kubhekisela ekwandisweni ngokwenziwa kwabangenzi

411
00:38:05,603 --> 00:38:11,020
bokutheleleka njengengxenye yesivumelwano esisha se-pandemic.

412
00:38:11,020 --> 00:38:22,327
Ngakho-ke, njengoba sazi, i-Covid-19 inezimpawu ezahlukahlukene
ezibonisa ukuthi ayizange itholakale emvelweni

413
00:38:22,327 --> 00:38:32,029
noma ayinakwenzeka ukuthi yaqhamuka lapho –
i-Covid-19 njengesifo esibangelwa yi-SARS-CoV-2.

414
00:38:32,029 --> 00:38:37,967
Ngamafuphi, amazwe ayakhuthazwa ukuthi
azibandakanye ekwandiseni ubungozi balezifo.

415
00:38:37,967 --> 00:38:40,800
Kukhona-ke lo hlu odumile we-DCX.

416
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:44,575
Lokho ngokuyisisekelo kuwukucabanga okuhle
kakhulu. Ngamanye amazwi, kuwukucatshangelwa kokuthi

417
00:38:44,575 --> 00:38:47,140
yiluphi uhlobo lwegciwane olungahlasela ngokulandelayo.

418
00:38:47,140 --> 00:38:52,708
Imikhiqizo yobhadane isivele itholakala ngokusekelwe
kulesi sifo, kanti izithako zomjovo zinikezwa ngaphansi

419
00:38:52,708 --> 00:38:55,310
kwesihloko esithi "Uhlu Lokusetshenziswa Ngokuphuthumayo".

420
00:38:55,310 --> 00:39:02,017
Futhi zonke izizwe kufanele zisungule izimvume
eziphuthumayo. Izimvume eziphuthumayo, bafazi nabesilisa,

421
00:39:02,017 --> 00:39:05,560
azikaze zibe khona ngokusemthethweni kuze kube manje.

422
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:10,076
Sasisenezithiyo ezithile ezincane okungenani
kuzo zonke izizwe zethu eYurophu naseSwitzerland.

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Kodwa ngaphansi kwesihloko sokuvunywa
okuphuthumayo, okukhona e-USA, konke okudingekayo ukuthi

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igunya elifanele limemezele isimo esiphuthumayo.

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Futhi-ke akusadingeki ucwaningo olwengeziwe
mayelana nokusebenza kahle noma ukuphepha.

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Akukho nhlobo, ngoba kuyiphuthuma.

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Lokho kuwumqondo wezempi ngemuva kwalokho.

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Ngamafuphi, lona umjikelezo omkhulu wezomnotho
okhona ngokuzimela kunoma yisiphi isimo esiphuthumayo.

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Manje, ukuze sengeze kulokhu, nazi imithetho yezempilo ebonisa
konke ngokusobala – ikakhulukazi

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ngokumemezela isimo esiphuthumayo sezimo eziphuthumayo
zezempilo zomphakathi ezikhathaza umhlaba wonke.

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Njengoba ngishilo, uMqondisi-Jikelele
Wezempilo angamemezela lesi simo esiphuthumayo

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esikhathini esizayo nganoma yisiphi isizathu.

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Futhi okulindelekile kwethu bekuzoba okuphambene ngqo.

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Sesibonile ukuthi isimo esiphuthumayo sezempilo emhlabeni
sonke sesihlale iminyaka emithathu nezinyanga ezintathu.

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Ngakho-ke umphumela oqondile uzoba ukuthi
isimo esiphuthumayo esingekho emthethweni

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singapheliswa, singabuyekezwa, nokunye okunjalo.

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Okuphambene kuyiqiniso.

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Kanti-ke omunye uyalandela.

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Kuzo zombili izinkontileka, uzobona
igama elithi "infodemics" maphakathi.

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I-Infodemics iyindlela ebalulekile yokulawula – kumele
ngiphethe – iyindlela ebalulekile yokulawula ye-WHO.

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Kodwa bheka, inhlangano yamazwe ngamazwe engasebenzi kuphela
kulezi zivumelwano, kodwa nasekhaya layo eliyinhloko

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ku-inthanethi – ungase uGoogle i-WHO bese ubheka
i-Infodemics – yonke indawo, empeleni isakazeke kuyo

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yonke, inophawu oluthi, "thina sodwa esinganquma iqiniso."

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Sivunyelwe ukusho ukuthi yiziphi izidakamizwa
ezisebenzayo futhi sivunyelwe ukusho ukuthi isimo

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esiphuthumayo sizohlala isikhathi esingakanani.

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Lokho kuwukuzikhethela okungenangqondo. Lokho nguLouis XIV.

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Lokho kwakuyisikhathi ngaphambi kweNguquko
YaseFrance, umbuso wobukhosi obuphelele.

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Lokhu akuhambisani nhlobo nomthethosisekelo wethu.

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Uzokuthola lokhu kuzivumelwano zombili nasekhasini lasekhaya.

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Futhi lokho kuphela, lo mfundiso wokuthi kuvunyelwe ukuchaza
iqiniso uqobo nokwenza noma ukuqala ukuhlola okuqukethwe,

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sekuyiphula okukhulu komgomo oyisisekelo
esidingeka kuwo wonke umbuso wabantu, okuwukuthi

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inkululeko yokucabanga nenkululeko yolwazi.

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Futhi uma ususa inkululeko yokucabanga nenkululeko
yolwazi, awunayo isayensi ekhululekile, awunayo uhlelo

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lobulungisa olungafanele, futhi awunayo nedemokhrasi.

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Futhi lokho akufanele kuvunyelwe ukuba kwenzeke.

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Hhayi-ke, ngangifuna ikakhulu ukukunika umbono ofanele.

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Ngoba, uyazi, ngenxa yalezi zinhlinzeko zonke
zesivumelwano, kuthatha amahora amabili, futhi ekugcineni,

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ngumuntu ongenguye ummeli okungenzeka kakhulu adideke.

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Kodwa manje usunazo izimfuneko eziyisisekelo
zokukala ezingakusiza ezingxoxweni futhi zikuvumele ukuthi

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uthi: Yima, okokuqala, kumele sibhekane nalolu daba!

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Futhi okwesibili, imithetho ye-WHO uqobo kumele ilandelwe.

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Okwesithathu, ngokwezinhloso zayo, i-WHO
ayinagunyaziwe nhlobo ukubangela umonakalo.

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Futhi okwesine, bheka ezinye izethulo zikaPhilipp Kruse.

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Nazi imininingwane eyengeziwe.

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Ngiyaxolisa ukuthi angikwazanga
ukuphumelela ngokuphelele, ngiyabonga kakhulu.

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Ngiyabonga kakhulu, Philipp.

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Njalo kuyolwazi kakhulu.