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Kufanele i-WHO inganikwa igunya eliyisisekelo
lokuthatha amandla angeziwe noma ukunikwa wona.

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Akukakafakazeki nje, kodwa lapha kudingeka umgijimo wokumisa.
Yima! Futhi kuphela lapho zonke amaphutha

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esixazululiwe singakhuluma ngezivumelwano
ezintsha, futhi impela hhayi ngaphambi kwalokho.

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Kulungile, kukhona enye iphuzu elibalulekile okufanele uligcine
engqondweni, okungukuthi lezi zinguquko zingavotwa kuphela

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uma inguqulo yokugcina yokuvota isithunyelwe eMhlanganweni
Wezempilo Yomhlaba okungenani izinyanga ezine ngaphambi.

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Ngakho-ke, lokho kusho ukuthi bekuzophikisana nemithetho yabo –
njengoba kuchazwe eSigabeni 55(2) seMithetho Yezempilo

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– futhi bekuzophikisana nemithetho yabo yenqubo
ye-WHO uma befuna ukuvota ngakho manje ekupheleni kukaMeyi.

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Yebo, izimfuneko zokuhlola zilula kakhulu uma uzibuka okokuqala.

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Okokuqala futhi okubaluleke kakhulu,
njengabantu besizwe, kumele sizibuze: ngabe sekwenziwe

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ukubuyekezwa okusebenzayo nhlobo? Yebo noma cha?

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Okwesibili, ngabe kulandelwe imithetho
esemthethweni yokuqugquzelela ye-WHO? Yebo noma cha?

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Futhi ngoba cha, kusho ukuthi angeke
ifakwe ekhetho. Kulula nje kanjalo.

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Kodwa manje unazo izimfuneko eziyisisekelo
zokukala, ezingakusiza ezingxoxweni futhi zikuvumele ukuthi

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uthi, yima, kuqala kufanele kwenzeke ukubuyekezwa.

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Futhi okwesibili, imithetho ye-WHO uqobo kumele ilandelwe.

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Okwesithathu, ngokwezinhloso zayo, i-WHO
ayinagunyaziwe nhlobo ukubangela umonakalo.

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Ngiyabonga kakhulu, Urs Hans, ngokuhlela
konke namuhla, mhlaka 20 Ephreli 2024.

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Inhloso ukulethela ukuhlaziywa kabusha ndawonye.

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Singakufeza lokhu kuphela ngemfundo,
ingcindezi kwezombusazwe nolwazi oluhle.

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Sawubona, Stefan. Futhi yilokho
okwenza sonke sikhona lapha namuhla.

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Kuyisithunzi esikhulu kimi ukukwazi
ukukhuluma nani lapha ngesihloko se-WHO.

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Futhi ngithanda ukuveza ukubonga kwami
okujulile kini nonke ngokuba lapha namuhla.

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Kuhle. Yebo, ngeshwa, le ndaba ye-WHO
iyisihloko esinemininingwane eminingi futhi esibanzi.

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Ngakho-ke, nginikezwe ngomusa imizuzu engama-40.

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Lona umkhathi wangempela, omusha ngempela, owakhiwa lapha.

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Uhlelo lwezempilo olusha ngempela.

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Futhi ukuze uqonde lokhu kahle, kudingeka ube
nokuqonda ngalokho okwenzekile kuze kube manje.

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Futhi-ke kufanele uqonde umongo jikelele
ukuze ungalahleki emininingwaneni eminingi.

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Siyazi ukuthi sikhuluma ngezivumelwano
ezimbili ze-WHO, futhi zigcwele iziphakamiso

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zokulungisa kanye neziphakamiso ezengeziwe zokulungisa.

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Futhi ngizama ukukunika isiqiniseko ngalolu daba.

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Lowo ngumsebenzi wami. Kodwa-ke,
awukwazi ukwenza lokho ngemizuzu engama-40.

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Ngizokwenza konke okusemandleni ami. Masiqale kafushane.

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Okokuqala, kumele sizibuze ukuthi sesihambe ibanga
elingakanani ekwamukeleni okwedlule lapha eSwitzerland.

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Kwaba nenkomfa enhle kakhulu ngalesi
sihloko ngomhlaka 6 Ephreli eBern.

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Ngingabhekisa kuphela
ezincazelweni eziningi ezinhle ezikhona lapho.

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Ngiphinde ngakhuluma kakhulu ngalokhu lapho.

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Akufanele sikhohlwe ukuthi, ngokombono wezomthetho nangokombono
wabantu abathintekayo, akukaze kube nemikhawulo emikhulu kangaka

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emlandweni waseSwitzerland, futhi ngithi nakulo lonke
umlando wanoma yiliphi izwe elidemokhrasi, kuyo yonke

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amalungelo ayisisekelo esinawo emthethosisekelo yethu.

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Futhi kunzima kakhulu kumuntu ngamunye.

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Sikhuluma lapha ngesibopho sokuhlala ekhaya, ukususwa
kwenkululeko, izinyathelo eziyingozi, ukugqoka

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imaski njalo, ikakhulukazi ezinganeni isikhathi
eside sezinyanga, nokucindezelwa ukuba ugonywe.

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Inkululeko yenkolo neyokuzazi kwangaphakathi yavinjwa kakhulu.

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Ngibona isikhulu senkolo lapha.

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Ngiyajabula kakhulu ukuthi ulapha.

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Siyakwamukela ngokufudumele kakhulu, Mbhishobhi, ngicabanga.

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Abaphristi nabashumayeli bavinjwe ukwamukela abakholwa
abangaphezu kwenani elincane elibekiwe ezindlini zabo

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zokukhulekela. Futhi lokhu kwenzeka ngesikhathi
se-Easter, ngaso sonke isikhathi. Kwathatha amasonto nezinyanga.

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Lokho kwakuwukwephulwa okukhulu kakhulu
kwenkululeko yenkolo nenkululeko yokuzazi.

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Ekugcineni, uhlu lonke lwamalungelo ethu lwathinteka
kakhulu ingxenye enkulu yabantu, futhi kwaba isikhathi eside.

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Futhi ngalokho, sikhuluma ngokwephulwa okukhulu kakhulu
kwamalungelo ayisisekelo okwake kwenzeka eSwitzerland.

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Futhi lokho kusho, ngaphezu kwalokho,
ukungenelela okukhulu kakhulu okungenzeka emnothweni.

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Lapho uMongameli weBhange Lesizwe laseSwitzerland, uThomas
Jordan, ephakamisa umunwe wokuxwayisa ngoMeyi 2020, ethi,

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"Qaphela, qaphela, sesiseduze nokudlula umkhawulo wamabhiliyoni
ayi-100 emalini yokweseka labo abasebenza emabhizinisini

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abavinjwe," khona-ke kumele nathi sicabangele lo mqondo.

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Futhi lokho kusho ukuthi ekungeneleni okukhulu
kangaka, umbuso unesibopho sokubika kubantu bakhe.

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Futhi lokho akukakenzeki kuze kube manje, futhi kumele
sikusho lokhu ngaphambi kokukhuluma ngemithetho

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emisha, ngaphambi kokukhuluma ngesivumelwano esisha se-WHO.

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Sasinazo izizathu kuphela.

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Besinokulinganiso kwe-PCR, okwakwaziwa kusukela ekuqaleni.
Ngiyakhumbula ingxoxo yephaneli eyaziwayo e-Aarau ngomhlaka 14

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Agasti, lapho uProfesa Marcel Tanner, ilungu leQembu Lomsebenzi
le-COVID-19 leKhomishana Kazwelonke futhi

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uMengameli we-Swiss Academy of Sciences, ephendula
ngokusobala nangokungangabazi umbuzo ovela kuSamuel Eckert:

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Yebo, ubona, ukuhlolwa kwe-PCR akunikezi ukuxilongwa
kwezokwelapha. Yilokho okubalulekile. Ngakho

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akulungile ukusho ukuthi ukuhlolwa okuhle kufakazela isifo.

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Sonke siyazi lokho. Ngamafuphi, engizama ukukusho wukuthi
wonke umuntu odinga ukwazi wayesewazi lokhu kusukela ehlobo

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okungenani, futhi iKhonsili Yezwe kwakufanele yazi ngalokhu.

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Ngokungeziwe, iNkantolo Kazwelonke nayo yaqinisekisa
lokhu ngo-2021 kulesi sinqumo, esaziwa nonke kahle.

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Futhi ukuthi yonke le nqubo yayingahleliwe kanjani,
yayingamahlazo ngokuphelele, kwavezwa kubo bonke ababekhona

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ohlelweni lwethu lwezingxoxo i-ARENA ngomhlaka 7 Januwari 2022.

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Kwathi-ke u-Ignazio Cassis, owayenguMongameli weNhlangano
yaseSwitzerland ngaleso sikhathi futhi eyudokotela ngomsebenzi,

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wathi: "Noma ubani oshonela engozini yemoto
futhi kutholakala ukuthi une-coronavirus, ukufa

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kwakhe kubalwa njengokufa okubangelwa i-coronavirus."

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Kwathi-ke umethuli wema kancane waphinda
wabuza, futhi yebo, kusho uCassis, "Yebo, kulungile,

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yilokho i-WHO eyenzile ngokuhlukanisa kwayo."

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Futhi konke lokhu kwaphakanyiswa ngempela yi-WHO; akuzange
kuvele nje, kuhlanganise nokuhlukaniswa kwamacala e-COVID-19.

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Futhi abezindaba bethu nabaphathi bezepolitiki
bahlale bebika kuphela ngezibalo eziphelele.

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Kulindeleke ukuthi ngesikhathi sokugula ngumkhuhlane ezweni
elinabantu abaningi abaneminyaka engaphezu kwengu-80 nengaphezu

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kwengu-90, abantu abambalwa abaningi kancane
kuleli qembu lobudala bazofa, kodwa uma

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kuqhathaniswa, le ntapandeni ayizange ibonakale.

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Konke lokhu kuholela ekwenqabeni
ukwamukela okwenzekile esikhathini esedlule.

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Futhi ngibhale lapha ifomula engiyibheka
njengokulula kakhulu, esetshenziswe kaningi ngami

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yizinkantolo, kodwa esebenza futhi emphakathini wonke.

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Futhi ngiyaqhubeka ngizwa okufanayo kubo bonke ozakwethu
nabangane bami, abathi kimi: "Bheka, ezikhathini zobhubhane,

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iziphathimandla kumele zinikezwe igunya elikhulu lokuzikhethela."

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Futhi inqobo nje uma iziphathimandla zilandela iziqondiso
ze-WHO, asikwazi futhi akufanele sikuphikise. Okuthile okunjalo.

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Yebo, futhi le ndawo yokuqala ikhombisa
indima ebaluleke kakhulu edlalwa yi-WHO lapho

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imemezela isimo esiphuthumayo ngenxa yobhubhane.

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Sekuyizolo.

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Abantu bayaphenduka, nezinkantolo ziyaphenduka
ekusebenzeni kwazo komsebenzi wemthethosisekelo

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wokubuyekeza, zivumela i-WHO ukuthi yenze ngendlela yayo.

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Lokho kwakusekunjalo esikhathini esedlule.

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Yebo, yingakho kuze kube namuhla kungakaze
kube nokuhlolwa kabusha kwalezi zinyathelo

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eziphuthumayo eziyingozi kakhulu ezake zenzeka.

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Futhi ngithanda ukugcizelela ukuthi
eSwitzerland sinomthethosisekelo osemncane kakhulu.

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Lena umthethosisekelo osanda kubuyekezwa kusukela ngonyaka ka-99.

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Yingakho inelungelo lokubusa
elikhethekile lezombusazwe zomphakathi.

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Futhi uma ubheka iSigaba 2, iyini inhloso yeKhonferenshini?

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Kungani iSwitzerland ikhona ngokombono wezomthetho?

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Khona-ke uzothola, njengoba ungakufunda futhi
ezintweni eziphathelene noMthethosisekelo omusha kazwelonke,

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ukuthi kunezinhloso ezine ezibalulekile ngokulinganayo.

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Ngakho-ke, ukuphepha ngaphansi kwe-Covid kuyinto eyodwa.

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Bese kuvikelwa inkululeko ngokuhlinzekwa
uhlu olude lwamalungelo ayisisekelo ekuqaleni.

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Ukuvikelwa komphakathi, okusho ukuthi akukho
ukuhlukaniswa komphakathi nokuvikelwa kwenhlalakahle.

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Manje ungabikezela: ngabe omunye
walemigomo ubaluleke kakhulu kunomunye?

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Cha, ukufundisa kusho ukuthi yonke
indaba ibalulekile ngokulinganayo.

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Akufanele kuvunyelwe muntu ukuthi athi
ukuphepha kumele kuhlale kubekwa phambili ngaphezu

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kwazo zonke izinto ngokulahlwa kwenkululeko.

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Le migaqo ebalulekile yokuqonda
iphuzu lokuqala lesimo esisibhekene naso.

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Futhi kufanele futhi siqaphele umgomo wokuthi
umbuso ukhona ukuze usekele izakhamuzi zawo,

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hhayi izakhamuzi ezikhona ukuze zisekele umbuso.

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Futhi lokho kwashiwo eminyakeni engaphezu kuka-2 000 edlule
ngummeli odumile nesenaRoma, uCicero, owasho

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ngokusobala nangokufingqa ukuthi umbuso ngesiRoma,
"res publica", uyindaba yabantu, "res populi".

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Futhi namuhla sisemkhathini lapho
siholelwa ekukholeni okuphambene nalokho.

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Akekho okufanele avunyelwe ukwenza sikholwe lokho.

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Futhi noma bangasibiza kanjani njengabantu
abagxile kakhulu kwelinye uhlangothi lwesokudla.

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Akuyona imbono yobuphimbi besokudla
ukusho ukuthi umbuso ukhona ngenxa yabantu.

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Akudingeki ukusho lokho. Kuhle.

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Futhi lokho kusho ukuthi uma iKhonsili Yezwe, iPhalamende,
izinkantolo, amacantoni kanye neziteshi zezindaba benqaba

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ukubhekana nalolu daba ngendlela efanele,
khona-ke okuthile okufana nalokho esisanda kukubona

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kungase kwenzeke futhi nganoma yisiphi isikhathi.

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Futhi yingakho kumele siqale sifunde izifundo.

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Akufanele siqhubeke nomthetho omusha wezifo
ezithathelana, izivumelwano zomhlaba wonke noma

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ukuzithoba e-EU, kodwa kunalokho sibuyekeze isimo.

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Ukuze kwandiswe ingcindezi yokwenza lesi
sibuyekezo, ngincoma kakhulu, ngempela ngiyakucela ukuthi

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usayine umkhankaso wesi sibuyekezo uma ungakayisayini.

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Ngiyacela, qiniseka ukuthi uyayibuyekeza. Ngiyabonga.

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Futhi bengingayiphetha lapha inkulumo, ngoba lokho kuyisho konke.

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Isifundazwe esenza ngaphandle komthetho asibona
ngokusemthethweni kunebhendi yamaqembu abaphangi.

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Futhi ngitshela izingane zami lokhu ukuze zibe nombono ongacacile
wokuthi zicabange kanjani ngeKhonsili Kazwelonke namacala.

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Kuzofanele bazibonakalise kabusha ngaphambi kokuba babuyise
ukwethenjwa kwami nokwethenjwa komndeni wami. Kulungile.

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Kubalulekile, futhi ngeshwa kubalulekile ekuqaleni,
ukuthi sibheke emuva kafushane futhi sikhumbule ukuthi

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lesi sincomo sokugonywa nge-mRNA asizange sivele nje.

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Lokhu akuzange kucutshungulwe ngabaphathiswa bezempilo ngokwabo,
kodwa kwavela ku-WHO. Futhi kuze kube muva nje, zonke lezi

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zincomo zazisazibonakala ekhasini lasekhaya ngokucaca okukhulu.

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Kukhona futhi umbhalo omncane okufanele uwufunde,
kodwa futhi kushiwo ukuthi imijovo yokugoma ye-COVID-19

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ihlangabezane nokuhlolwa okunzima. Ukuhlolwa okunzima.

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Lolu lwazi olubonakala ngokusobala ukuthi luyinkohliso.

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Lona ulwazi olungelona iqiniso olusobala oluvela
kule nhlangano yamazwe ngamazwe ethi yodwa inelungelo

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lokunquma ukuthi yini eqiniso nokuthi yini engamanga.

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Yebo. Futhi nazi ezinye izibonelo ezimbalwa.

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Futhi yingakho, ngoJulayi 2022, ngokusekelwe emsebenzini wethimba
wangaphansi konyaka nomthimba wami, kodwa futhi ngosizo olukhulu

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oluvela kochwepheshe bangaphandle, ngafaka
isimangalo sobugebengu ngokumelene

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neSwissmedic, ngoba eSwitzerland, sinabantu abaphethe.

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Sine umthetho ochaza izibopho ze-Swissmedic.

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Futhi i-Swissmedic ihlome ngobungcweti nezinsiza ukuze
ibone ukuthi lezi ziyizibulala-zilwanyana hhayi imijovo

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yokugoma. Izibulala-zilwanyana, hhayi imijovo yokugoma.

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Futhi manje ngingasho lokhu kalula nangokufingqa ngoba
sengichithe iminyaka emibili ngicwaninga ngakho futhi

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ubufakazi bami buyatholakala ukufundwa ku-inthanethi.

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Njengoba ngishilo, ngakwazi ukwenza lokhu kuphela ngenxa yeqembu
lami elivelele elibandakanya uDkt. iur. Markus Zollinger, uKati

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Schepis, abanye abasebenzi beqembu lami kanye
noprofesa abayishumi nambili kuya kweyishumi nanhlanu

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abavela emazweni akhuluma isiJalimane nesiNgisi.

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Futhi ngingathanda ukubonga nonke ngokujulile
enhliziyweni yami ngomsebenzi omangalisayo.

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Futhi sesikufakazele khona lapho. Ikakhulukazi enguqulweni
ebuyekeziwe, ongayithola ku-Inthanethi, kwacaca

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kusukela ekuqaleni, kwacaca kuzo zonke iziphathimandla
zokulawula kusukela ekuqaleni ukuthi lokhu ngeke kusebenze.

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Lokhu kuwumzamo. Awunalo ulawulo ngokunembile
ngalokho okukhiqizwa emzimbeni, ngobuningi,

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ekhwalithi nangokuthi kuzohlala isikhathi esingakanani.

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Wonke umuntu wayekwazi konke lokhu kusukela
ekuqaleni. Noma kunjalo, bavumela ukuthi kwenzeke.

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Ngiyacela ngokubonana ukuthi okungenani ufunde isifinyezo.

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Isifinyezo esiphezulu.
Inezinkulungwane ezimbili kuphela zamakhasi.

15:09.069 --> 15:14.507
Futhi kulabo abakhetha ukubamba okuthile
ezandleni zabo, kunenguqulo eshicilelwe etholakala

15:14.507 --> 15:17.020
ngaphandle ngama-franc angu-20 aseSwitzerland.

15:17.020 --> 15:22.565
Iqukethe konke okubalulekile, kunezandulelo
ezivela koProfesa abasekeli ababaluleke kakhulu.

15:22.565 --> 15:29.718
Omunye wabo ukhona lapha namuhla, uProfesa
Stefan Hockertz, kanye noProfesa Martin Haditsch,

15:29.718 --> 15:33.659
uProfesa Sönnichsen, uMichael Palmer nabanye.

15:33.659 --> 15:35.104
Iyatholakala lapha.

15:35.104 --> 15:39.772
Futhi lokho nakho kuyindlela
yokucindezela ukuze kuqhubekwe nokuhlolwa kabusha.

15:39.772 --> 15:42.330
Ngoba siyabona, sibona ini?

15:42.330 --> 15:47.434
Ukwethulwa kwe-mRNA kudlala indima ebaluleke
kakhulu kuMthetho Wezifo Ezibhubhane, futhi

15:47.434 --> 15:50.260
ngempela, ezivumelwaneni ezintsha ze-pandemic.

15:50.260 --> 15:57.377
Lena isisekelo sazo zonke izitozo ezizayo,
kuhlanganise nasesigabeni sokumelana nezibulala-magciwane,

15:57.377 --> 16:01.139
njengoba uDkt. Heiko Schöning asanda kusho manje.

16:01.139 --> 16:05.221
Yebo, futhi kungani lokho kubaluleke kangaka?

16:05.221 --> 16:10.460
Kubalulekile ngoba lapha sikhuluma ngezidakamizwa zokuhlola.

16:10.460 --> 16:14.440
Futhi ngenze, akusikho nje ukuthi akuzange kwenziwe mizamo.

16:14.440 --> 16:20.221
Kukhona ezinye izici ezintathu noma ezine
ezenza le nqubo ibe yeyokuhlola kakhulu.

16:20.221 --> 16:23.815
NgesiJalimane, bathi babengazi
ukuthi umphumela wokugcina uzoba kanjani.

16:23.815 --> 16:32.608
Futhi njengobuhlanga, sasikholelwa ukuthi ngeke siphinde
sivumele lokhu kwenzeke futhi kusukela eMpini Yezwe Yesibili.

16:32.608 --> 16:39.926
Futhi yingakho sakha iKhodi yaseNuremberg futhi safaka
emthethweni lesi sivumelwano samazwe ngamazwe

16:39.926 --> 16:48.900
ngamalungelo ezakhamuzi nawepolitiki, Isigaba 7, esisebenza kuzo
zonke izimo, ngisho nasezimo eziphuthumayo zomphakathi.

16:48.900 --> 16:57.164
Futhi lo mthetho obalulekile wokuvikela abantu ekubandakanyekeni,
kuhlanganise nokubandakanyeka okungazelelwe

16:57.164 --> 17:04.260
ezilingweni, waphulwa izigidi zamahlandla
ngoba abantu banikezwa ulwazi olungelona iqiniso.

17:04.260 --> 17:07.760
Baxukunyiswa futhi bacindezelwa.

17:07.760 --> 17:11.217
Lena yisiqalo esibhekana naso sonke.

17:11.217 --> 17:14.540
Futhi ngibheka nje eSwitzerland, ikusasa.

17:14.540 --> 17:19.600
Lena ingxenye evela kuMthetho Wezifo Ezibhubhane,
uMthetho Wezifo Ezibhubhane osanda kuphakanyiswa.

17:19.600 --> 17:24.362
Kukhona isihloko esisha 6c, isigaba 1, incwadi b.

17:24.362 --> 17:32.195
Futhi iKhonsili Kazwelonke ifuna ukuba nekhono lokuphoqa
odokotela nabapharmasisti ukuba banikeze abantu

17:32.195 --> 17:39.520
lezi zinto zokuhlola, ngokusekelwe kulokho
ebibona njengezifundo ezifundwe esikhathini esedlule.

17:39.520 --> 17:46.060
Ngakho-ke ufuna ukuphoqa odokotela ukuthi bagonyele
abantu ngaphandle kokubanika ulwazi olwanele, ngokucacile.

17:46.060 --> 17:48.448
Yebo, futhi nansi thina sesiphakathi nendawo yayo.

17:48.448 --> 17:53.385
Okokuqala, kumele sicabangele ukuthi yiziphi
izigunyazi zeNhlangano Yezempilo Yomhlaba.

17:53.385 --> 17:56.400
Kuchazwe kahle kakhulu eSigabeni 1 soMthethosisekelo wabo:

17:56.400 --> 18:03.520
Inhloso yoMbutho Wezempilo Wezwe ukusiza bonke abantu
bafinyelele esimweni sempilo esingcono kakhulu esingaba khona.

18:03.520 --> 18:05.860
Maduzane uzokwazi ukuthi lokhu akubandakanyi ini.

18:05.860 --> 18:11.397
Lokhu akubandakanyi ukunikeza abantu ulwazi
olungelona iqiniso, ukuphoqa abantu ukuthi

18:11.397 --> 18:15.162
basebenzise into ethile, kanye nokuncoma izinto ezinobuthi.

18:15.162 --> 18:19.284
Ngakho-ke akufanele ubangele
umonakalo. Lona ngumgomo obaluleke kakhulu.

18:19.284 --> 18:25.920
Iyi-umzimba ophethe futhi ohlela, futhi
isebenza kuphela njengeseluleko. Yilokho okuyisiqalo.

18:25.920 --> 18:34.434
Lokhu kusho ukukhuthaza ukuvikelwa kwempilo yabantu
ngokuhambisana nolwazi oluhle kakhulu olutholakalayo nemikhuba

18:34.434 --> 18:41.230
emihle kakhulu, kubhekwa okutholakele okusha,
futhi, ngemva kwesikhathi eside senhlekelele,

18:41.230 --> 18:45.020
ukwenza ukubuyekezwa okujulile nokuzihlaziya.

18:45.020 --> 18:48.147
I-WHO bekufanele yenzile lokhu yona uqobo, kodwa ayizange.

18:48.147 --> 18:54.842
Ngokungeziwe, akuyona inhlangano ephakeme kunamazwe,
kodwa iyinhlangano yamazwe ngamazwe kahulumeni nje kuphela,

18:54.842 --> 18:58.464
futhi ngaphezu kwakho konke, ayinayo imonopoli yolwazi.

18:58.464 --> 19:07.795
Nokho, uyazibheka konke lokhu futhi, ngaphezu kwalokho,
kumele ahloniphe amalungelo ayisisekelo futhi, njengoba kumele

19:07.795 --> 19:12.680
ngigcizelele kaningi, kumele ahlale ebuyekeza izenzo zakhe.

19:12.680 --> 19:16.100
Lezi yizono ezinzima kakhulu, engazenzanga yena.

19:16.100 --> 19:18.151
Akufanele nakanjani kubangele noma yiluphi uhlupho.

19:18.151 --> 19:28.100
Eminyakeni emine nengxenye edlule, uzihlekisile ngokuphelele
ngokuphakamisa kaningi izinto ezinobuthi njengesisombululo

19:28.100 --> 19:33.728
esisodwa kuphela ekulweni nalowo mcimbi obizwa ngokuthi insongo.

19:33.728 --> 19:37.340
Futhi lapha sifika esitatimendeni sokuqala esibalulekile.

19:37.340 --> 19:47.880
Kufanele i-WHO inganikwa igunya lokuthatha
ngenkani noma ukunikezwa amandla angeziwe.

19:47.880 --> 19:52.640
Akukakaze kufakazwe nje, kodwa lapha kudingeka umgijimi ophelele.

19:52.640 --> 19:57.284
Yima! Misa! "After Action Review" ngolimi lwezempi.

19:57.284 --> 20:07.640
Futhi kuphela lapho zonke amaphutha esixazululiwe singakhuluma
ngezivumelwano ezintsha, futhi impela hhayi ngaphambi kwalokho.

20:15.741 --> 20:21.835
Kulungile, njengomphumela wesikhashana,
engisanda kukusho kufingqiwe lapha futhi.

20:21.835 --> 20:28.065
Ngaphandle kokubuyekezwa, akukho izifundo ezifundwayo.
Futhi impela akukho izinkontileka zesifo esithathela umhlaba.

20:28.065 --> 20:35.190
Kulesi simo, kwabanjwa ivoti eKhanselini Kazwelonke
yaseSwitzerland ngesonto eledlule mayelana

20:35.190 --> 20:42.303
nokuthi iPhalamende laseSwitzerland kumele
livunyelwe yini ukuxoxa ngesivumelwano se-pandemic.

20:42.303 --> 20:44.784
Futhi akudingeki ukusho ukuthi umuntu wenza kanjalo.

20:44.784 --> 20:56.522
Ngifuna nje ukukwazisa ukuthi i-SP namaGreen Liberals
bakhulume ngokuphelele ngokumelene nengxoxo ePhalamende.

20:56.522 --> 21:04.061
Kuyihlazo lokweqiniso kwezombusazwe ukungafuni
ukubona ukuthi iKhonsili Yezwe ixoxisana ngani.

21:04.061 --> 21:11.648
Ngenhlanhla, iningi lahlala linengqondo,
kanti zonke ezinye izinhlangothi zagcizelela

21:11.648 --> 21:17.040
ngokuphelele ukuthi kube nengxoxo ePhalamende.

21:22.655 --> 21:27.694
Uyazi, i-World Health Organisation
ingomunye weminyakazo engaphansi engu-17.

21:27.694 --> 21:33.866
Sikhuluma ngezivumelwano ezimbili
ezizokwakhiwa manje, isivumelwano esisha ngokuphelele.

21:33.866 --> 21:37.985
Kwakukhona izinguqulo ezahlukene, kusukela mhla
zingama-30 ku-Okthoba ngonyaka odlule, kwaze kwaba

21:37.985 --> 21:40.400
ezinsukwini ezimbalwa ezedlule, inguqulo yango-13 Mashi.

21:40.400 --> 21:45.460
Manje nje, izinsuku ezimbili noma ezintathu
ezedlule, inguqulo ka-Ephreli isivele

21:45.460 --> 21:48.671
yavela. Empeleni, izinsuku ezimbalwa nje ezedlule.

21:48.671 --> 21:53.827
Ngikhuluma lapha ngezimiso ezibaluleke
kakhulu, ezifana nalezi ezinguqulweni.

21:53.827 --> 21:57.540
Ungakhathazeki, angiqhathanisi izinguqulo ezahlukene lapha.

21:57.540 --> 22:01.872
Kubalulekile ukuqaphela ukuthi lesi
sivumelwano sobhubhane siyisivumelwano esisha

22:01.872 --> 22:05.029
ngokuphelele ngaphansi komthetho wamazwe ngamazwe.

22:05.029 --> 22:10.741
Futhi ezivumelwaneni zamazwe ngamazwe ezintsha,
kusebenza inqubo yokuvunywa emthethweni kazwelonke.

22:10.741 --> 22:12.733
Ngakho-ke kudingeka ingxoxo ePhalamende.

22:12.733 --> 22:15.120
Lokhu sekushiwo eMthethosisekelo we-WHO.

22:15.120 --> 22:16.920
Lokho kucabangwe kahle kakhulu.

22:16.920 --> 22:18.860
Kumele nje kuqondwe.

22:18.860 --> 22:24.178
Amalungu ePhalamende kumele futhi
azimisele ukubamba iqhaza kulesi siphikiswano.

22:24.178 --> 22:28.658
Futhi kunezinyanga eziyishumi nesishiyagalombili
zokwenza kanjalo, kuze kube ngomhlaka 1 Disemba 2025.

22:28.658 --> 22:31.280
Kodwa-ke, lokhu kuzoncika ekutheni ngabe kuyovotwa nhlobo.

22:31.280 --> 22:34.740
Manje eMhlanganweni Wezempilo Yomhlaba Wonke ekupheleni kukaMeyi.

22:34.740 --> 22:37.900
Lo Meyi, oseza kufika manje, usaphambi kwethu.

22:37.900 --> 22:42.180
Okwesibili nakho kuyisivumelwano samazwe ngamazwe.

22:42.180 --> 22:45.760
Ngokombono wobuchwepheshe kuphela, kuwumqulu wamazwe ngamazwe.

22:45.760 --> 22:54.380
Nokho, imithetho yezempilo yamazwe ngamazwe isebenza
kusukela ngo-2005 futhi kulindeleke ukuthi ibuyekezwe.

22:54.380 --> 23:00.193
Ehlelwe kabusha, sinenguqulo eyodwa kuphela
etholakala njengamanje ngokusemthethweni

23:00.193 --> 23:04.921
kuwebhusayithi ye-WHO, enomhla wokuphela kukaNovemba 2022.

23:04.921 --> 23:08.240
Futhi le nguqulo nayo ayiyona inguqulo yokuqala.

23:08.240 --> 23:14.285
Enye indlela yokuvota kungaba ukuvumelana
ngamagama, ukuthi yiziphi izihloko ezizoshintshwa,

23:14.285 --> 23:18.495
ngokushintshwa okukodwa ngesikhathi, bese kubekwa ekhethweni.

23:18.495 --> 23:27.469
Sithini esinakho? Esinakho lapha kuwumxube wezinhlobo
eziningi ezingakholeki zento ngayinye, okusebenza njengesisekelo

23:27.469 --> 23:32.538
sokuxoxa nokuxoxisana, kodwa okungeke kufaneleke ekhethweni.

23:32.538 --> 23:38.573
Lokho yilokho esikukhuluma ngakho thina,
nami mathupha, eminyakeni emibili edlule.

23:38.573 --> 23:45.486
Ngakho-ke, yini enye esinayo? Khona-ke
sinombhalo ongasemthethweni, ohlisiwe kancane

23:45.486 --> 23:49.569
ngokwokuqukethwe, kodwa awukashicilelwa obala.

23:49.569 --> 23:56.106
Futhi lapha, asikakabi nenguqulo yokugcina,
inguqulo esingayisho ukuthi manje siyiyisa eNhlanganweni

23:56.106 --> 23:59.460
Yezempilo Yomhlaba ukuze ivotwe; yilona isisekelo.

23:59.460 --> 24:04.257
Cha, lokho akuyona isisekelo esifanele sokuvota.

24:04.257 --> 24:09.839
Kubalulekile futhi ukuqaphela ukuthi le migomo
yezempilo yakhelwe njengemigomo yobuchwepheshe

24:09.839 --> 24:13.000
kuphela ngokuhambisana noMthethosisekelo we-WHO.

24:13.000 --> 24:20.192
Futhi yilokho kuphela okusekela ukuthi singakwamukela lokhu
eMhlanganweni Wezempilo Emhlabeni wonke ngokuba ne-quorum elula,

24:20.192 --> 24:26.688
okungukuthi amaphesenti angu-51, ivoti elinengi lawo wonke
amazwe amalungu, ngokuphambene nesivumelwano esidinga

24:26.688 --> 24:31.112
i-quorum yezingxenye ezimbili kwezintathu, umkhawulo ophakeme.

24:31.112 --> 24:36.167
Ngakho-ke, lapha abantu bathi cha, lezi ziqondiso zobuchwepheshe
nje kuphela, zimayelana namazinga nemininingwane

24:36.167 --> 24:41.580
emincane engathakazelisi muntu, lapho odokotela bejabule nje
ukuthi zibhalwe kwenye indawo ukuze bakwazi ukuzibheka.

24:41.580 --> 24:47.186
Lena yiyo kuphela imbangela yokuphathwa
ngale ndlela enezinzuzo ezikhethekile kakhulu.

24:47.186 --> 24:55.566
Ngokungeqondile, ngoDisemba odlule, engxoxweni e-Neue Zürcher
Zeitung, umxoxiswano omkhulu waseSwitzerland, uNora Kronig,

24:55.566 --> 25:04.015
wabhekisa kulokhu wathi lezi zinguquko ezincane kuphela,
ngakho-ke kwakungekho sidingo sokuxoxa kabanzi, sokunikeza ulwazi

25:04.015 --> 25:08.729
noma, impela, sokubanjwa kwe-referendamu phakathi kwabantu.

25:08.729 --> 25:13.553
Yebo, futhi ngizokukhombisa manje ukuthi
konke okunye kunjalo, konke okunye kulungile.

25:13.553 --> 25:15.880
Lapha, lokhu ukwelashwa okukhethekile.

25:15.880 --> 25:21.321
Okubaluleke kakhulu ukuthi lezi zinguquko
zisebenze ngokuzenzakalelayo ezinyangeni

25:21.321 --> 25:24.440
eziyishumi nambili emva kokwamukelwa kwazo.

25:24.440 --> 25:26.580
Ziyizilungiso zobuchwepheshe kuphela.

25:26.580 --> 25:31.385
Futhi uma kuyizinguquko zokuphatha
kuphela noma zobuchwepheshe, kungaba kuhle.

25:31.385 --> 25:37.200
Kodwa hhayi izinguquko ezineziphumo
ezinzima kakhulu kithi maqondana nokuqukethwe.

25:37.200 --> 25:43.563
Ngakho-ke, ukufingqa, ukulungiswa kwesivumelwano
samazwe ngamazwe esivele sikhona kudinga iningi elilula.

25:43.563 --> 25:50.018
Umthethosisekelo we-WHO awukhulumi ngokuqinisekiswa
ngokwalo, yingakho asikaziswa ngalokhu nhlobo kuze kube manje.

25:50.018 --> 25:55.775
Futhi konke engikubonile kuze kube manje, imibuzo evela
kubaphathi bezepolitiki baseSwitzerland eFederal Council,

25:55.775 --> 25:58.920
kuhlanganise noNksz. Nora Kronig, kuthiwani lokhu, bafuna ini?

25:58.920 --> 26:03.107
Akuzange kube nempendulo nhlobo. Akuzange
kube noma yikuphi okuqukethwe, noma ukucaciswa

26:03.107 --> 26:05.320
kwangempela okuvela eKhonsilini Kazwelonke.

26:05.320 --> 26:09.800
Ngakho-ke thina, njengabantu bonke,
sisahlala singazi ngalokhu okuqukethwe.

26:09.800 --> 26:12.967
Futhi yingakho kubaluleke kangaka ukubamba lo mcimbi.

26:12.967 --> 26:21.442
Kulungile, kukhona enye iphuzu elibalulekile okufanele ligcinwe
engqondweni, okungukuthi lezi zinguquko zingavotwa kuphela

26:21.442 --> 26:29.901
uma inguqulo yokugcina yokuvota isithunyelwe eMhlanganweni
Wezempilo Yomhlaba okungenani izinyanga ezine ngaphambi.

26:29.901 --> 26:38.880
Ngakho-ke lokho kuzoba ukuvota ekupheleni kukaMeyi,
kanti inguqulo yokugcina izoba ekupheleni kukaJanuwari 2024.

26:38.880 --> 26:44.589
Kodwa lokho akutholakali. Konke esikuzwayo
ukuthi siyaxoxisana, siyaxoxisana, siyaxoxisana.

26:44.589 --> 26:52.663
... Ngakho-ke, lokho kusho ukuthi bekuzophikisana nemithetho yabo
uqobo – lokhu kubhalwe eSigabeni 55, Isigaba 2 seMithetho

26:52.663 --> 27:00.940
Yezempilo – bekuzophikisana nemithetho yabo ye-WHO yokuqugquzelela
uma befuna ukuvota ngakho manje ekupheleni kukaMeyi.

27:00.940 --> 27:13.183
Ngakho-ke, uDkt. Silvia Behrendt nenhlangano yakhe, i-Global
Health Responsibility Agency, babhale incwadi evulekile kuTedros,

27:13.183 --> 27:21.150
uNobhala-Jikelele, bemcasula ngalokhu ngqo
futhi bethi: "Unesibopho sokuqinisekisa

27:21.150 --> 27:26.053
ukuthi kulandelwa imithetho yenqubo ye-WHO."

27:26.053 --> 27:34.055
Awukwazi ukuvumela lezi zinguquko zivotwe emasontweni ambalwa
ezayo ngaphandle kokuthi noma ubani, noma

27:34.055 --> 27:41.137
yiliphi izwe, libe nethuba lokuzihlola
ngaphakathi ukuthi lezi zinguquko zisho ukuthini kithi.

27:41.137 --> 27:49.082
Ngakho-ke, lokho esikwenzayo lapha, ngokwezinga elithile,
kuwukubikezela okuzayo, ngoba singakwazi kuphela ukuhumusha lezi

27:49.082 --> 27:56.636
zinguquko eziphakanyisiwe futhi siqaphele ukuthi, kuze kube
manje, ithimba lezingxoxo laseSwitzerland alikaze lithi,

27:56.636 --> 28:04.777
ngempela, yebo, asizithandi lezi zinguquko eziphakanyisiwe,
Sifuna ngempela ukuvikela amalungelo abantu, sifuna ukuthi umgomo

28:04.777 --> 28:12.657
wokwahlukaniswa kwamandla ucatshangelwe, sifuna ngempela
ukunciphisa le nto emangalisayo yokungahleleki, lo mandla adlula

28:12.657 --> 28:20.276
umda e-WHO, ngokusebenzisa igunya lokwengamela noma lokulawula,
futhi ngaphezu kwakho konke, akufanele sivumele i-WHO

28:20.276 --> 28:27.180
yodwa ukuthi inqume ukuthi yiluphi ulwazi emkhakheni
wezempilo lonke olulungile nokuthi yiluphi olungelona.

28:27.180 --> 28:32.080
Angikakuzwa lokhu emlonyeni wanoma
yimuphi umgcinimafa eSwitzerland.

28:32.080 --> 28:35.400
Kodwa bekufanele utshele kanjalo, ngoba awuvumelani nakho.

28:35.400 --> 28:37.420
Futhi yingakho sidinga ukukhuluma ngakho.

28:37.420 --> 28:42.622
Yebo, izimfuneko zokuhlola zilula kakhulu uma uzibuka okokuqala.

28:42.622 --> 28:46.855
Okokuqala futhi okubaluleke kakhulu,
njengabantu besizwe, kumele sizibuze: ngabe sekwenziwe

28:46.855 --> 28:49.160
ukubuyekezwa okusebenzayo nhlobo? Yebo noma cha?

28:49.160 --> 28:54.400
Okwesibili, ngabe kulandelwe imithetho
esemthethweni yokuqugqulwa kwe-WHO? Yebo noma cha?

28:54.400 --> 29:00.256
Futhi ngoba cha, kusho ukuthi angeke
ifakwe ekhethweni. Kulula nje kanjalo.

29:00.256 --> 29:04.403
Akukhona ngisho nangesivumelwano se-pandemic, ngoba zixhumene.

29:04.403 --> 29:12.720
Zixhumene kakhulu. Isivumelwano esisha se-pandemic
nokuguqulwa kwemithetho yezempilo kuxhumene kakhulu.

29:12.720 --> 29:17.026
Lokho kusho ukuthi uma ungavunyelwe ukuvota
entweni eyodwa, khona-ke awuvunyelwe ukuvota

29:17.026 --> 29:19.700
nakweyomunye, ngoba zombili zixhumene ngokwengqondo.

29:19.700 --> 29:23.323
Kulungile. Lokho kusho ukuthi ngaphansi kwanoma yiziphi
izimo akufanele sigijime ngokungacabangi senyukele

29:23.323 --> 29:25.480
enkinga elandelayo. Akukho nhlobo isizathu sokwenza njalo.

29:25.480 --> 29:31.414
Lapha kumele siphoqe i-veto, sikhombisa
abaphathi bethu bezepolitiki leli phuzu uqobo.

29:31.414 --> 29:51.900
Futhi-ke, ngokungeqondile, sinedemokhrasi
ehloniphekile futhi esebenza kahle eSwitzerland.

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Futhi lokhu kungabonakala ezinhlinzekweni eziningi. Futhi
ngokuvamile, lokhu akuzange kusebenze kabi esikhathini esedlule.

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Futhi bekuzoba kwezobuchwepheshe
kakhulu ukuchaza konke lokhu manje.

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Kodwa ukuze kube lula, zonke lezi zinhlinzeko eziholela noma
eziphendula umbuzo othi – Singakwazi yini,

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thina njengabantu, ukubamba iqhaza ekudalweni
komthetho? – zihlala ziqala endaweni efanayo.

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Okungukuthi, kuze kufike kuphi umthetho noma isivumelwano samazwe
ngamazwe ekungeneleleni esimweni sethu

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somthetho, futhi kuze kufike kuphi amandla
kahulumeni okuthatha izinyathelo azokwehliswa?

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Futhi ukuphazamiseka kungakanani kusakhiwo
sonke samandla? – Njengoba kuchazwe

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umthethosisekelo wethu, ekwakhiweni kokwahlukaniswa kwamandla.

30:48.880 --> 30:52.780
Ngakho-ke, lapho umthelela walokhu kungenelela
ukhula, khona-ke ilungelo lokuba nelizwi liyakhula.

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Futhi siyithola lokhu emibandleni ehlukahlukene.

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Isigaba 164 lapha sibanzi kancane, sisho nje ukuthi umthetho
njalo usho ukuthi abantu kufanele babe nethuba lokuzwakala,

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okungenani ngaphakathi kohlu lwe-referendamu okukhethwayo.

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Umbuzo obalulekile uwukuthi ingabe i-WHO
ezayo izokwazi yini ukunciphisa ngisho

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nezimiso eziyisisekelo zomthethosisekelo wethu.

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Futhi kunezimiso eziyisisekelo.

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Uma uqede isikole nganoma yisiphi isikhathi eminyakeni
engu-230 edlule, ngeke kube sekuphutheni kwakho. Akunjalo?

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Khona-ke uzobe uqaphele ukuthi kuzo zonke izifundazwe zethu
zedemokhrasi kwenziwa imizamo yokuvimbela ukusetshenziswa kabi

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kwamandla nokuziphatha ngokungahleliwe ngangokunokwenzeka
ngokwahlukaniswa kwamandla, ngomgomo wobuzwe, ngomgomo

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wobufanele bomthetho kanye nokuvikelwa kwamalungelo ayisisekelo.

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Sinakho lokhu kuchazwe
ngokunembile kakhudlwana kumsoco wethu lapha.

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Le migaqo yonke icacisiwe kahle futhi
isekelwe ngemibandela esemthethweni yokuyisebenzisa.

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Ukuhlukaniswa kwamandla, kanye nemithetho
yezigameko ebanzi ngalesi sihloko, kanye nomgomo

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wokusemthethweni sekuthathe indawo komgomo wokuzithandela.

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Amalungelo abantu kumele avikelwe ngempumelelo.

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Akufanele kube nokucwasa.

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Yebo, amakanton ngokuyisisekelo azimele.

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Futhi ezingeni labo, baphatha
izinqubomgomo zezempilo ngokuzimela.

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Futhi uhulumeni kumele akwazi ukusetha izinto ezibalulekile zakhe
uqobo, futhi akadingi ukutshelwa ukuthi yiliphi uhlobo olusha

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lwegciwane okufanele alulandele ngaphambi kokuba akwazi futhi
ukusebenzisa izimali zakhe ezikoleni noma ezibhedlela zakhe.

32:37.952 --> 32:45.287
Ngamafuphi, lokhu kuyihlelo lokulawula okufanele thina,
ikakhulukazi abezepolitiki, abameli, bonke

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abasemagunyeni nabathathi-zinqumo, silibeke, ngokuhambisana
nezinhlelo zokulawula zesayensi nezokwelapha, impela.

32:53.920 --> 32:58.624
Kodwa lezi izimiso ezingathathi
hlangothi esingazixoxa ngazo ngokuqinisekile.

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Ngakho-ke, futhi ngisho, ukholo lwami kuyo yonke lezi
zinkulumo ukukubonisa ukuthi izisekelo ezibaluleke kakhulu

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zomthethosisekelo, ngokudabukisayo, zingamiswa (zisuswe).

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Ngakho-ke, kumele sikubuze nina nonke izakhamuzi, bantu
abahloniphekile, ukuthi ngabe nivuma yini nhlobo

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ukudlulisela amandla ezingeni eliphezulu
kangaka ngaphandle kokuba nethuba lokuwabuyisa futhi.

33:29.222 --> 33:32.640
Lokho, ngamafuphi, yilokho konke lokhu okukhuluma ngakho.

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Futhi i-referendamu eyimpoqo,
okuyiyona ukusetshenziswa kobuchwepheshe.

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Ngokufingqa nje, sinazo lezi zinkontileka ezimbili.

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Iningi elilula liyanele ukulungisa imithetho
yezempilo ngoba kuthiwa ingokwezobuchwepheshe kuphela,

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kanti isivumelwano sobhubhane lidinga iningi elingu-2/3.

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Sikhuluma ngokuvota okuhleliwe ekupheleni kukaMeyi,
evikini lokugcina lukaMeyi, cishe emasontweni amahlanu ezayo.

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Futhi-ke izinguquko kuMthetho Wezempilo Womhlaba
Wonke kufanele ziqale ukusebenza ngokuzenzakalelayo.

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Ngokuphambene nalokho, isivumelwano
esisha sidinga inqubo yokuvunywa.

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Ngakho-ke, yini okuqukethwe ngokujwayelekile?

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Ngingachaza kuphela okuqukethwe ngokujwayelekile
ngokufingqa, kodwa kumayelana neshishini elikhulu kakhulu.

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Lapha kusungulwa imboni yangempela yezifo ezithathelana.

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Lokho kucatshangwe kahle kakhulu.

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Ngakho-ke uma uyifunda ngokwakho, uzoqonda.

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Kuqala lapha ngaphansi kwesihloko, kushiwo ukuthi into embi
kakhulu eyayizokwenzeka kithi ngaphansi kwe-Covid

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kwakuwukuthi besingakwazi ukuhlinzeka wonke umuntu
ngenani elifanayo lomjovo wokugoma ngesikhathi esisodwa.

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Ukusatshalaliswa kwezimali akuzange kube nokulingana.

34:46.781 --> 34:49.312
Igama elithi 'equity' laqanjwa ngenhloso yalokhu.

34:49.312 --> 34:53.260
Ubulungisa obusekelwe ekulinganeni
kufanele kube ubulungisa bokwabiwa.

34:53.260 --> 35:01.961
Bathi kwakubi kakhulu, kwakuyingozi kakhulu, kwakungafa
abantu abayizigidi eziningi kakhulu, kumele sinike i-WHO igunya

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lokuthatha izinqumo. Kulungile, lawa ngama-mveliso akhiqizwayo.

35:07.976 --> 35:14.121
Ngakho-ke sikhuluma ngezinto zomuthi wokugoma
ezisekelwe ku-mRNA, ngezinto zokuxilonga,

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noma yiziphi izinhlobo zemikhiqizo yobhubhane.

35:17.800 --> 35:20.080
I-WHO kufanele ivunyelwe ukunquma konke lokhu.

35:20.080 --> 35:27.028
Amalungu e-WHO kumele ngaso sonke isikhathi bathumele uhlu
lokusetshenziswa ku-inthanethi, ngokuthi, ukuze i-WHO ikwazi

35:27.028 --> 35:33.366
ukuhlola ukuthi iSwitzerland idinga yini ukunikeza okwengeziwe,
noma ukuthi izimpahla kufanele zithunyelwe e-Afrika.

35:33.366 --> 35:36.985
Futhi ama-Afrika anezinsiza ezimbalwa kancane,
ngakho adinga ukuthola ukwesekwa okwengeziwe kancane.

35:36.985 --> 35:41.280
Yilokho okufihliwe kulesi simo, ubulungisa.

35:41.280 --> 35:47.561
Khona-ke izifundazwe kumele, futhi lokhu
kuyabonakala kakhulu, kakhulu, ngempela—ngizokubeka

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kanjani—ku-Epidemic Act entsha, kumele zihlale zibheka imvelo.

35:52.360 --> 35:57.528
Amagciwane angabangela izifo angahlala engasebenzi
noma kuphi: angahlala engasebenzi ebantwini,

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emvelweni, emanzini angcolile, nasemhlabeni wezilwane.

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Nansi-ke, umbandela onzima kuwo
esiphakanyisweni sokulungiswa koMthetho Wezifo Ezibhubhane:

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IKhonsili Kazwelonke kufanele ikwazi ukuphoqa
zonke izikhungo ukuthi zihlolisise amanzi

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angcolile ukuze kutholakale amagciwane abangela izifo.

36:16.320 --> 36:21.700
Okungukuthi, ukusebenzisa indlela yokulandelana kwe-genome.

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Ngakho-ke, uya ezingeni lama-athomu futhi uzama ukusebenzisa
ukuhlolwa kwe-PCR emanzini angcolile – futhi, njengokufunda

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amakhasi eti – ukuze wakhe ubufakazi
besongo, ngokususelwa kukho iKhonsili Yezwe

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kufanele ivunyelwe ukumemezela isimo esiphuthumayo.

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Lokho kuwukuzikhethela ngokungahleliwe ngokomgomo.

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Futhi lokho kungenza ngingcangcazele njengommeli, ngoba
ngokuvamile ngiyazonda ukuzithathela izinqumo ngokungahleliwe,

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futhi kakhulu njengesisekelo somthetho wezimo eziphuthumayo.

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Akufanele kwenzeke.

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Ngakho-ke kuwumthwalo wokuphazamiseka kwengqondo
ngempela ukuqapha unomphela zonke izicubu

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zamanzi angcolile ngaphandle kwanoma yiziphi izithiyo.

37:18.460 --> 37:21.853
Konke lokhu kuhamba ngaphansi kwegama elithi One Health.

37:21.853 --> 37:29.873
Impilo yonke yomhlaba – konke kuxhumene, phela – izilwane,
abantu, imvelo, uMhlaba, futhi kuyafinyelela ngisho ekushintsheni

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kwesimo sezulu. Ukushintsha kwesimo sezulu
kanye nezinga le-CO2 nakho kufanele

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kuvunyelwe ukuba kube yizizathu zesimo esiphuthumayo.

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Futhi konke lokhu kumele kwabelwane ngakho – imiphumela,
amagciwane atholwe – kudathabheyisi yamazwe ngamazwe.

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Ungakubona lokho. Futhi manje nansi.

37:48.040 --> 37:52.768
Manje kusadingeka ukwenza ucwaningo nentuthuko.

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Ngamanye amazwi, ucwaningo nokuthuthukiswa
kwezifo ezingaba khona eziya ziba yingozi kakhulu.

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Lokhu kungokuthi "gain-of-function". Lokhu
kubhekisela ekwandisweni ngokwenziwa kwabangenzi

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bokutheleleka njengengxenye yesivumelwano esisha se-pandemic.

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Ngakho-ke, njengoba sazi, i-Covid-19 inezimpawu ezahlukahlukene
ezibonisa ukuthi ayizange itholakale emvelweni

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noma ayinakwenzeka ukuthi yaqhamuka lapho –
i-Covid-19 njengesifo esibangelwa yi-SARS-CoV-2.

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Ngamafuphi, amazwe ayakhuthazwa ukuthi
azibandakanye ekwandiseni ubungozi balezifo.

38:37.967 --> 38:40.800
Kukhona-ke lo hlu odumile we-DCX.

38:40.800 --> 38:44.575
Lokho ngokuyisisekelo kuwukucabanga okuhle
kakhulu. Ngamanye amazwi, kuwukucatshangelwa kokuthi

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yiluphi uhlobo lwegciwane olungahlasela ngokulandelayo.

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Imikhiqizo yobhadane isivele itholakala ngokusekelwe
kulesi sifo, kanti izithako zomjovo zinikezwa ngaphansi

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kwesihloko esithi "Uhlu Lokusetshenziswa Ngokuphuthumayo".

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Futhi zonke izizwe kufanele zisungule izimvume
eziphuthumayo. Izimvume eziphuthumayo, bafazi nabesilisa,

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azikaze zibe khona ngokusemthethweni kuze kube manje.

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Sasisenezithiyo ezithile ezincane okungenani
kuzo zonke izizwe zethu eYurophu naseSwitzerland.

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Kodwa ngaphansi kwesihloko sokuvunywa
okuphuthumayo, okukhona e-USA, konke okudingekayo ukuthi

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igunya elifanele limemezele isimo esiphuthumayo.

39:19.888 --> 39:25.344
Futhi-ke akusadingeki ucwaningo olwengeziwe
mayelana nokusebenza kahle noma ukuphepha.

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Akukho nhlobo, ngoba kuyiphuthuma.

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Lokho kuwumqondo wezempi ngemuva kwalokho.

39:29.580 --> 39:37.381
Ngamafuphi, lona umjikelezo omkhulu wezomnotho
okhona ngokuzimela kunoma yisiphi isimo esiphuthumayo.

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Manje, ukuze sengeze kulokhu, nazi imithetho yezempilo ebonisa
konke ngokusobala – ikakhulukazi

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ngokumemezela isimo esiphuthumayo sezimo eziphuthumayo
zezempilo zomphakathi ezikhathaza umhlaba wonke.

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Njengoba ngishilo, uMqondisi-Jikelele
Wezempilo angamemezela lesi simo esiphuthumayo

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esikhathini esizayo nganoma yisiphi isizathu.

39:59.256 --> 40:02.800
Futhi okulindelekile kwethu bekuzoba okuphambene ngqo.

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Sesibonile ukuthi isimo esiphuthumayo sezempilo emhlabeni
sonke sesihlale iminyaka emithathu nezinyanga ezintathu.

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Ngakho-ke umphumela oqondile uzoba ukuthi
isimo esiphuthumayo esingekho emthethweni

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singapheliswa, singabuyekezwa, nokunye okunjalo.

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Okuphambene kuyiqiniso.

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Kanti-ke omunye uyalandela.

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Kuzo zombili izinkontileka, uzobona
igama elithi "infodemics" maphakathi.

40:27.424 --> 40:35.308
I-Infodemics iyindlela ebalulekile yokulawula – kumele
ngiphethe – iyindlela ebalulekile yokulawula ye-WHO.

40:35.308 --> 40:42.934
Kodwa bheka, inhlangano yamazwe ngamazwe engasebenzi kuphela
kulezi zivumelwano, kodwa nasekhaya layo eliyinhloko

40:42.934 --> 40:49.751
ku-inthanethi – ungase uGoogle i-WHO bese ubheka
i-Infodemics – yonke indawo, empeleni isakazeke kuyo

40:49.751 --> 40:53.800
yonke, inophawu oluthi, "thina sodwa esinganquma iqiniso."

40:53.800 --> 40:57.720
Sivunyelwe ukusho ukuthi yiziphi izidakamizwa
ezisebenzayo futhi sivunyelwe ukusho ukuthi isimo

40:57.720 --> 40:59.980
esiphuthumayo sizohlala isikhathi esingakanani.

40:59.980 --> 41:03.239
Lokho kuwukuzikhethela okungenangqondo. Lokho nguLouis XIV.

41:03.239 --> 41:07.760
Lokho kwakuyisikhathi ngaphambi kweNguquko
YaseFrance, umbuso wobukhosi obuphelele.

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Lokhu akuhambisani nhlobo nomthethosisekelo wethu.

41:13.100 --> 41:17.505
Uzokuthola lokhu kuzivumelwano zombili nasekhasini lasekhaya.

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Futhi lokho kuphela, lo mfundiso wokuthi kuvunyelwe ukuchaza
iqiniso uqobo nokwenza noma ukuqala ukuhlola okuqukethwe,

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sekuyiphula okukhulu komgomo oyisisekelo
esidingeka kuwo wonke umbuso wabantu, okuwukuthi

41:34.205 --> 41:38.135
inkululeko yokucabanga nenkululeko yolwazi.

41:38.135 --> 41:44.366
Futhi uma ususa inkululeko yokucabanga nenkululeko
yolwazi, awunayo isayensi ekhululekile, awunayo uhlelo

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lobulungisa olungafanele, futhi awunayo nedemokhrasi.

41:47.940 --> 41:52.680
Futhi lokho akufanele kuvunyelwe ukuba kwenzeke.

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Hhayi-ke, ngangifuna ikakhulu ukukunika umbono ofanele.

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Ngoba, uyazi, ngenxa yalezi zinhlinzeko zonke
zesivumelwano, kuthatha amahora amabili, futhi ekugcineni,

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ngumuntu ongenguye ummeli okungenzeka kakhulu adideke.

42:17.440 --> 42:25.574
Kodwa manje usunazo izimfuneko eziyisisekelo
zokukala ezingakusiza ezingxoxweni futhi zikuvumele ukuthi

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uthi: Yima, okokuqala, kumele sibhekane nalolu daba!

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Futhi okwesibili, imithetho ye-WHO uqobo kumele ilandelwe.

42:33.560 --> 42:40.082
Okwesithathu, ngokwezinhloso zayo, i-WHO
ayinagunyaziwe nhlobo ukubangela umonakalo.

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Futhi okwesine, bheka ezinye izethulo zikaPhilipp Kruse.

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Nazi imininingwane eyengeziwe.

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Ngiyaxolisa ukuthi angikwazanga
ukuphumelela ngokuphelele, ngiyabonga kakhulu.

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Ngiyabonga kakhulu, Philipp.

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Njalo kuyolwazi kakhulu.