WEBVTT 00:00.980 --> 00:08.440 A ranar 29 ga Satumba, 2023, Majalisar Dokoki ta Switzerland ta amince da "Umarnin Gyara na Haɗin Kai don Samar da Wutar Lantarki 00:08.440 --> 00:16.620 Mai Aminci daga Makamashin Sabuntawa" da nufin, kamar yadda ake ikirari, ƙarfafa tsaron samar da wutar lantarki a lokacin sanyi. 00:16.620 --> 00:20.312 Ana kiran wannan doka da "Mantelerlass" ko a takaice "Dokar Wutar Lantarki". 00:20.312 --> 00:29.316 Wannan zai shimfida hanya don samar da karin wutar lantarki daga tashoshin hasken rana, iska da na ruwa a ƙasar. 00:29.316 --> 00:35.323 Da sabon doka, Majalisar Tarayyar Switzerland za ta iya tantance lokacin, wurin da yawan tsire-tsire da 00:35.323 --> 00:39.215 za a iya gina don samar da makamashi mai sabuntawa. 00:39.215 --> 00:49.155 Kungiyoyi daban-daban kamar Alliance for Nature and Landscape Switzerland, ƙungiyar Free Landscape Switzerland da Fondation 00:49.155 --> 00:59.049 Franz Weber sun kaddamar da referendamu kan sabon dokar tarayya kuma sun mika sa hannu 63,184 a watan Janairu 2024. 00:59.049 --> 01:08.100 Don haka za a gabatar da shawarar mai jayayya ga masu zaɓe na Switzerland domin su yi ƙuri'a a ranar 9 ga Yuni, 2024. 01:08.100 --> 01:13.886 Babban hujjar da magoya baya ke gabatarwa ita ce cewa sabon Dokar Wutar Lantarki yana da muhimmanci don 01:13.886 --> 01:17.800 kauce wa karancin wutar lantarki da ke tafe a Switzerland. 01:17.800 --> 01:23.443 Kungiyar "Aufrecht Schweiz" tana kiran wannan rikicin makamashi da aka ƙirƙira. 01:23.443 --> 01:28.074 "Aufrecht Schweiz" wata ƙungiyar 'yan ƙasa ce da ke son samun damar yin tasiri a siyasar 01:28.074 --> 01:31.282 Switzerland ta hanyar 'yan takara masu zaman kansu. 01:31.282 --> 01:37.959 A cikin sanarwar kafofin watsa labarai da suka fitar mai taken "Rashin wutar lantarki a Switzerland? Ba zai yiwu ba!" daga kaka 01:37.959 --> 01:43.480 ta 2022, wani masanin kimiyyar kwamfuta daga kamfanin samar da wutar lantarki da wani injiniyan lantarki, 01:43.480 --> 01:46.638 dukkansu sun yi ritaya, sun rubuta abin da ke gaba: 01:46.638 --> 01:51.325 Ta hanyar bin dabarar tsoro da ƙungiyar lobi ke tallatawa, Ofishin Tarayya na Makamashi yana ba da 01:51.325 --> 01:56.283 fa'idodi masu sauri da kai tsaye ga kamfanonin iskar gas da man fetur da 'yan kasuwar wutar lantarki. 01:56.283 --> 02:02.253 (…) Idan gwamnati ta yi kira gare mu mu ajiye wutar lantarki, ba saboda muna da ƙarancin ta ba, amma 02:02.253 --> 02:05.595 saboda muna da arha sosai a kasuwancin wutar lantarki. 02:05.595 --> 02:13.154 Kowane kilowat da muka ajiye yana amfani wa kamfanonin wutar lantarki, domin suna iya sayar da wutar da aka ajiye 02:13.154 --> 02:18.903 a Switzerland a kasashen waje a farashi mai yawa sosai. 02:18.903 --> 02:27.078 A cikin wata sanarwa, Kungiyar Masu Samar da Wutar Lantarki ta Aargau (VAS) ta nuna cewa wannan umarnin gaba ɗaya zai 02:27.078 --> 02:31.973 buƙaci sake fasalin dukkan tsarin wutar lantarki na ƙasar. 02:31.973 --> 02:37.624 Har zuwa yanzu, ana samar da wutar lantarki ga masu amfani na ƙarshe bisa ka'idar da aka tabbatar ta hanyar lissafi 02:37.624 --> 02:41.173 wadda ke dogara kan manyan tashoshin samar da wuta na tsakiya. 02:41.173 --> 02:47.943 Duk da haka, za a tsara tsarin rarrabawa ta hanyar rarraba iko, wanda ya kamata ya kasance cikakke, ba tare 02:47.943 --> 02:52.612 da kuskure ba, kuma ya ba kowa damar sadarwa da kowa. 02:52.612 --> 02:58.572 A cewar VAS, hasashen ƙwararru ya nuna cewa juyawa da faɗaɗa hanyoyin sadarwa a 02:58.572 --> 03:02.830 Switzerland kaɗai zai kashe kusan CHF biliyan 100. 03:02.830 --> 03:12.700 Galibi masu amfani da ba su da fifiko da masu haya marasa ikon kula da kansu ne ke biyan wannan ƙarin sabis. 03:12.700 --> 03:21.375 Kamar yadda sau da yawa ke faruwa da sabbin dokoki, a ƙarshe ana mayar da riba da tallafi mallakar wasu kaɗan, 03:21.375 --> 03:25.967 yayin da jama'a da suka rage ke raba kuɗaɗe da haɗari. 03:25.967 --> 03:30.800 – A cewar Kungiyar Masu Samar da Wutar Lantarki ta Aargau. 03:30.800 --> 03:38.633 Kwamitocin NO daban-daban sun kuma sukar Sabuwar Dokar Wutar Lantarki saboda, a tsakanin sauran abubuwa, ta jefa tambaya kan 03:38.633 --> 03:44.254 muhimman ka'idojin kiyaye yanayi da shimfidar ƙasa da masu zaɓen Switzerland suka sanya a 03:44.254 --> 03:47.860 Kundin Tsarin Mulkin Tarayya tsawon shekaru. 03:47.860 --> 03:54.802 Misali, ana iya share dazuzzuka yanzu don gina turbin iska, kuma ana iya gina manyan filayen iska da na hasken 03:54.802 --> 04:01.840 rana a cikin shimfidar wuraren da ake karewa – ko da hakan zai halaka muhallai masu muhimmanci. 04:01.840 --> 04:06.932 Babu abin da zai tsaya a hanyar gina manyan filayen hasken rana a tsaunukan Alps na Switzerland. 04:06.932 --> 04:14.211 Yawancin filayen kiwo na tsaunuka za a iya rufe su da tsarukan ƙarfe da allunan hasken rana. 04:14.211 --> 04:20.670 Elias Vogt, Shugaban ƙungiyar "Freie Landschaft Schweiz" (Yankin Kasa Mai Yanci na Switzerland), ya bayyana a wata hira da tashar 04:20.670 --> 04:25.177 talabijin mai zaman kanta HOCH2.TV abin da wannan doka ke ƙunshe da shi da kuma dalilin da 04:25.177 --> 04:28.347 ya sa yake ba da shawarar a ƙi amincewa da ita. 04:28.347 --> 04:36.903 taken shirin tattaunawar siyasa shi ne: "Umarnin Mantel shine rushewar yanayi da ake tallafawa" 04:36.903 --> 04:43.270 A cikin hirar, Vogt ya yi bayani kan wadannan batutuwan suka game da sabon Dokar Wutar Lantarki, da sauransu: 04:43.270 --> 04:47.791 - Halartar dimokuradiyya da hakkin yin adawa suna cikin haɗari 04:47.791 --> 04:52.423 - Samar da wutar lantarki ya fi muhimmanci fiye da kiyaye yanayi a sabon Dokar Wutar Lantarki 04:52.423 --> 04:55.743 - Lalacewar halitta "domin doka" zai yiwu 04:55.743 --> 05:01.221 - Lalata tsaunukan Alps: samar da wutar lantarki ya fi yawon buɗe ido muhimmanci 05:01.221 --> 05:07.598 Elias Vogt ya ambaci suka da ƙwararren masanin doka Prof. Dr. Alain Griffel ya yi cewa umarnin gama-gari mai 05:07.598 --> 05:12.401 jayayya ya sabawa Kundin Tsarin Mulkin Tarayyar Switzerland. 05:12.401 --> 05:19.680 Samar da makamashi dole ne ya kasance isasshe, mai tsaro, mai arha kuma abokiyar muhalli, misali. 05:19.680 --> 05:28.120 Duk da haka, dole ne a dauki ka'idojin dacewa da muhalli da tsaron samar da wutar lantarki daidai. 05:28.120 --> 05:32.192 Ba za a sake samun haka ba da sabon Dokar Wutar Lantarki. 05:32.192 --> 05:38.243 A bayyane yake cewa, a ƙarƙashin matsin lamba mai yawa, Majalisar Dokoki ta Switzerland ta amince da wata doka da ba ta dace da 05:38.243 --> 05:42.140 kundin tsarin mulki ba kuma tana takaita hakkokin dimokuradiyya. 05:42.140 --> 05:49.429 Tsoro na karancin wutar lantarki da ake zargi a lokacin sanyi yana sa Majalisar Dokoki ta ɗauki mataki cikin gaggawa. 05:49.429 --> 05:57.937 Ya ku masu zaɓe na Switzerland: Shin kuna kuma son hana kawar da muhimman haƙƙoƙin dimokuraɗiyya da lalata shimfidar ƙasar 05:57.937 --> 06:02.703 Switzerland a ƙarƙashin ƙyamar tallata makamashi mai sabuntawa? 06:02.703 --> 06:08.134 Sa'an nan a ranar 9 ga Yuni, ka jefa kuri'ar A'A a akwatin kuri'a kan "Mantelerlass". 06:08.134 --> 06:15.948 Kalli hirar mintuna talatin da Dr. Philipp Gut da Elias Vogt, Shugaban Kungiyar Don Kyautar Yanayin Switzerland, a shirin 06:15.948 --> 06:20.170 tattaunawar siyasa na tashar talabijin mai zaman kanta HOCH2.TV. 06:20.170 --> 06:22.935 Hira 06:30.315 --> 06:35.358 Masu kallo na ƙauna, ina muku maraba da ƙauna zuwa shirin tattaunawar siyasa a HOCH2.TV. 06:35.358 --> 06:40.293 Ka san shi, ka gane shi: wannan shirin koyaushe kai tsaye ne, koyaushe gaskiya ne, koyaushe yana sadaukar da 06:40.293 --> 06:45.157 kansa ga gaskiya, kuma koyaushe yana gabatar da baƙi masu ban sha'awa waɗanda ke da abin faɗa. 06:45.157 --> 06:52.228 A yau, ina maraba da Elias Vogt, shugaban ƙungiyar "Freie Landschaft Schweiz" (Yankin Kuduwar Switzerland Mai Yanci), 06:52.228 --> 06:59.384 sabon ɗan siyasa a Switzerland, idan zan iya faɗa, wanda ya riga ya kawo canji kuma tabbas yana son kawo ƙarin canji. 06:59.384 --> 07:00.832 Yana da kyau sosai samun ku a cikin shirin. 07:00.832 --> 07:02.837 Na gode ƙwarai, Mista Gut, saboda gayyatar. 07:02.837 --> 07:05.240 Ni ma ina farin cikin kasancewa anan. 07:05.240 --> 07:10.253 Kwanan nan kun shirya kuri'ar yankewa cikin nasara tare da wasu kungiyoyi. 07:10.253 --> 07:16.495 Don masu kallo a Jamus da Ostiriya: a Switzerland, ana iya kalubalantar dokokin da majalisar dokoki ta 07:16.495 --> 07:19.820 zartar ta hanyar yin kira ga kuri'ar yankewa a kansu. 07:19.820 --> 07:23.989 Sun yi nasara; aƙalla sa hannun mutane 50,000 ake buƙata don wannan. 07:23.989 --> 07:30.146 Ya shafi abin da ake kira umarnin gabaɗaya wanda ke nufin inganta makamashi mai sabuntawa. 07:30.146 --> 07:35.803 Kafin mu sukar wannan atisaye, za ku iya bayyana abin da wannan doka ke nufi a zahiri? 07:35.803 --> 07:39.040 Menene ainihin wannan abin da ake kira umarnin gabaɗaya? 07:39.040 --> 07:44.676 Umarnin gabaɗaya gyara ne na dokoki daban-daban a cikin umarni guda ɗaya, kamar yadda ake 07:44.676 --> 07:47.670 cewa, shi ya sa ake kiran sa da wannan suna. 07:47.670 --> 07:56.123 A gefe guda, za a sake duba Dokar Makamashi, a gefe guda kuma Dokar Samar da Wutar Lantarki, sannan a matsayin 07:56.123 --> 08:04.022 na uku Dokar Tsare-tsaren Sarari, da kuma a cikin sake dubawa gaba ɗaya na waɗannan dokoki uku. 08:04.022 --> 08:09.911 Babban burin shi ne faɗaɗa sosai amfani da makamashin iska da na rana a Switzerland. 08:09.911 --> 08:16.969 Amma kuma gina manyan tashoshin samar da wutar lantarki ta ruwa guda 16. 08:16.969 --> 08:25.825 Dukkan waɗannan fannoni da suka shafi makamashi mai sabuntawa da faɗaɗa su an tsara su a cikin wannan kunshin cikakke. 08:25.825 --> 08:29.888 Wannan shi ne abin da ke bayan kalmar 'umarnin mantel'. 08:29.888 --> 08:35.715 Don haka wannan riga a zahiri wani irin babban doka ce wadda ke ƙunshe da gyare-gyare na doka daban-daban, ko? 08:35.715 --> 08:39.829 Daidai. Kuma yana ƙunshe da matsaloli da yawa da ba a warware ba. 08:39.829 --> 08:48.932 Wannan yana nufin cewa Majalisar Tarayya, wadda ita ce gwamnatinmu, za ta iya saita cikakkun bayanai a matakin umarni. 08:48.932 --> 08:54.408 Akwai bayanai da yawa inda abubuwa ke shiga ainihin aikin. 08:54.408 --> 08:59.089 Majalisar Tarayya na iya, misali, ta gajarta tsare-tsaren ba da izini. 08:59.089 --> 09:05.613 Kuma saboda Switzerland ma tana aiwatar da ka'idar 'yancin kan ƙananan hukumomi, wanda ke nufin cewa al'umma a 09:05.613 --> 09:11.062 Switzerland na iya yanke shawara kai tsaye kan tsare-tsaren sarari a garinsu, a ƙaramar hukumarsu. 09:11.062 --> 09:17.737 Idan Majalisar Tarayya ta rage wannan, to za ta iya kawai ta ce cewa waɗannan ƙananan hukumomi ba su da 09:17.737 --> 09:23.200 murya, sannan za ta soke dimokuradiyya kai tsaye da jefa ƙuri'a a matakin ƙananan hukumomi. 09:23.200 --> 09:24.891 Eh, za mu koma kan batutuwan suka daga baya. 09:24.891 --> 09:27.296 Watakila da farko kaɗan game da tsarin buum. 09:27.296 --> 09:29.057 Ƙarin tambayata a wannan mahallin. 09:29.057 --> 09:30.980 Ba kai ka fara kuri'ar raba kawuna ba da kanka. 09:30.980 --> 09:32.098 Wanene kuma ya kasance abokin tarayya? 09:32.098 --> 09:34.546 Wadanne ƙungiyoyi ke bayan wannan? 09:34.546 --> 09:38.403 Don haka da farko, wani mutum mai zaman kansa ne ya kaddamar da kuri'ar raba kawuna. 09:38.403 --> 09:45.493 Pierre-Alain Bruchez, tsohon ƙwararren masanin kuɗi kuma ma'aikacin tarayya wanda yanzu ya yi ritaya, ya 09:45.493 --> 09:49.200 yi mamakin abin da wannan umarnin gaba ɗaya ya ƙunsa. 09:49.200 --> 09:54.695 Ya ga cewa wannan doka za ta ba da damar gina manyan filayen hasken rana a tsaunukan Alps. 09:54.695 --> 09:59.350 Sai ya bayyana gaban kafofin watsa labarai a ranar 10 ga Oktoba shekarar da ta gabata, ya 09:59.350 --> 10:02.242 ce, "Ina kiran kuri'ar raba kawuna kan wannan." 10:02.242 --> 10:11.184 Sannan sananniyar "Fondation Franz Weber" ta bayyana gaban kafofin watsa labarai 'yan kwanaki daga baya ta ce mu ma za mu gudanar 10:11.184 --> 10:16.016 da jefa kuri'a; muna goyon bayan matakan mayar da martani, a ce. 10:16.016 --> 10:18.221 Sai abin ya faru cikin sauri. 10:18.221 --> 10:23.798 Sa'an nan mu a Freie Landschaft Schweiz ma mun so mu shiga cikin kamfen ɗin adawa da shi, 10:23.798 --> 10:26.099 don haka muka haɗa ƙarfi da Mr Bruchez, a ce. 10:26.099 --> 10:31.006 Mun kuma ƙarfafa ƙungiyoyin mambobinmu su tattara sa hannu. 10:31.006 --> 10:38.428 A ƙarshe, a lokacin Kirsimeti da Sabuwar Shekara, an tattara sa hannun mutane 63,000 daga yawancin 10:38.428 --> 10:42.700 ƙananan da manyan ƙungiyoyin kare muhalli da lafiya. 10:42.700 --> 10:46.445 Yanzu watakila kalma game da ƙungiyarku, "Freie Landschaft Schweiz" (Yankin Kasa Mai Yanci na Switzerland). 10:46.445 --> 10:49.621 Menene ainihin wannan? Menene burinku? 10:49.621 --> 10:53.205 "Freie Landschaft Schweiz" (Yankin Kuduwar Switzerland na 'Yanci) a zahiri ita ce ƙungiyar haɗin 10:53.205 --> 10:55.416 gwiwa ga masu suka na wutar iska a Switzerland. 10:55.416 --> 11:01.076 Muna da kimanin ƙungiyoyi membobi 50 da sassan kantonal guda takwas. 11:01.076 --> 11:06.952 Wannan na iya kasancewa a Thurgau, na iya kasancewa a Vaud, wato a ko'ina cikin Switzerland. 11:06.952 --> 11:14.409 Kuma kowa ya himmatu wajen tabbatar da kiyaye yanayi a Switzerland dangane da turbin iska. 11:14.409 --> 11:20.822 Amma dimokuradiyya kai tsaye, kamar yadda na bayyana a baya, ita ma tana daga cikin manyan abubuwan da umarnin Manteler ya 11:20.822 --> 11:27.212 mayar da hankali a kansu, shi ya sa muke da ƙwazo sosai wajen kiyaye kiyayewar yanayi da dimokuradiyya kai tsaye. 11:27.212 --> 11:32.148 Eh, mu yi ƙoƙarin rarraba wannan batu kaɗan mu kuma tunkararsa cikin tsari. 11:32.148 --> 11:37.793 Ɗaya daga cikin abubuwan da ke cikin wannan umarni gaba ɗaya, wannan babban doka, wannan doka mai faɗi shi ne cewa ta 11:37.793 --> 11:40.720 saita takamaiman manufofi don faɗaɗa makamashin sabuntawa. 11:40.720 --> 11:48.600 A takaice, 'yan siyasa suna cewa kaso na makamashin rana ko na iska dole ya kasance haka ko haka kafin wani takamaiman lokaci. 11:48.600 --> 11:52.880 Ta yaya kuke kimanta waɗannan manufofin? Shin suna da yiwuwa? 11:52.880 --> 11:57.240 Shin yana da ma'ana ga 'yan siyasa su kafa irin waɗannan ƙa'idoji? Menene ra'ayinka game da wannan? 11:57.240 --> 12:04.306 Don haka, umarnin Mantelerlass ya bayyana cikin kalmomi marasa tabbas cewa ya kamata mu samar da ƙarin 12:04.306 --> 12:11.698 terawatt-awanni 45 na wutar lantarki daga hasken rana da iska a cikin shekara ɗaya nan gaba zuwa 2050. 12:11.698 --> 12:15.916 Switzerland a halin yanzu tana amfani da kusan terawatt-sa'o'i 60. 12:15.916 --> 12:19.808 Don haka wannan babbar adadi ce da ake buƙatar ginawa. 12:19.808 --> 12:28.259 Kuma kamar yadda na fada a baya, har yanzu ba a san wacce fasaha za ta samar da wutar lantarki nawa ba. 12:28.259 --> 12:33.294 Wannan yana nufin cewa Majalisar Tarayya yanzu za ta iya cewa muna buƙatar irin wannan yawan 12:33.294 --> 12:36.620 allunan hasken rana da irin wannan yawan turbin iska. 12:36.620 --> 12:43.483 A ganina, ina zaton komai ya ta'allaka ne ga son shi na girka kusan turubinai na iska 1,500 da kuma 12:43.483 --> 12:47.883 allunan hasken rana a kan daruruwan kilomita murabba'i. 12:47.883 --> 12:52.737 Inda za a sanya su, ko a kan rufin gine-gine ko a cikin karkara, hakika ya kasance a hannun 12:52.737 --> 12:55.916 Majalisar Tarayya; har yanzu ba a yanke shawara ba. 12:55.916 --> 13:01.880 Kuma wannan yana haifar da barazanar babbar illa ga muhalli a Switzerland, wadda tuni ke da yawan jama'a sosai. 13:01.880 --> 13:13.680 Kuma wutar lantarki mai yawa sosai ce wadda ake samarwa a rana, ba a daidaitacce ba, idan iska ke yi. 13:13.680 --> 13:19.916 Kuma duka tsarin, wannan babban doka, ba ta tsara cikakkun bayanai sosai ba. 13:19.916 --> 13:27.920 Kuma shi ya sa yake da kyau a saita manufofi; muna son samar da ƙarin terawatt-awanni 45. 13:27.920 --> 13:31.672 Amma ko hakan zai yiwu, sai alloli kadai suka sani; babu wanda ya sani. 13:31.672 --> 13:35.600 Kuma shi ya sa muma muke suka dokar. 13:35.600 --> 13:41.865 Wani batu – har yanzu muna nazarin fannoni daban-daban da abin ya shafa – shi ne tallafi. 13:41.865 --> 13:44.580 Ya kamata a ƙarfafa amfani da makamashi mai sabuntawa sosai. 13:44.580 --> 13:46.453 Yaya hakan yake? 13:46.453 --> 13:50.400 Mun riga mun amince da sabon dokar makamashi a shekarar 2017. 13:50.400 --> 13:54.760 Wannan yanzu, a ce, shi ne mataki na biyu, wannan umarni gaba ɗaya. 13:54.760 --> 14:01.020 Kuma a wancan lokacin, an ce cewa daga shekarar 2022 zuwa gaba, ba za a sake ba da tallafi ga tashoshin 14:01.020 --> 14:04.660 samar da wutar lantarki ta hasken rana da iska ba. 14:04.660 --> 14:06.302 Kuma yanzu ana karya shi. 14:06.302 --> 14:13.589 Na biyu, wannan babban fakitin, umarnin gabaɗaya, ya ba Majalisar Tarayya cikakken 'yanci. 14:13.589 --> 14:20.881 Zai iya yanke shawara kan yawan tallafin da allunan hasken rana da turbin iska za su samu. 14:20.881 --> 14:24.979 Ko a can, ba mu san adadin tallafin da za a samu ba. 14:24.979 --> 14:31.399 Amma ana iya ɗauka cewa ya zarce kashi 50 cikin ɗari na kuɗin zuba jari. 14:31.399 --> 14:37.024 Don haka, doka a bayyane tana cewa za a iya tallafawa har zuwa kashi 60 cikin ɗari na kuɗaɗen zuba jari. 14:37.024 --> 14:38.310 Eh, akwai samfura biyu. 14:38.310 --> 14:43.500 Ko mai zuba jari ya ce, ina so in samu kashi sittin cikin ɗari na jarin daga gwamnati. 14:43.500 --> 14:47.978 Sannan sai ya samu hakan, kuma har yanzu dole ne ya shirya kashi 40 cikin ɗari daga banki. 14:47.978 --> 14:54.242 Ko kuma ya ce gwamnati za ta ba da garanti ga kowace kilowat-sa'ar da ya samar. 14:54.242 --> 14:56.181 Babu wanda ya san yadda tsayinsa yake. 14:56.181 --> 14:59.825 Wannan ma watakila zai kai kashi sittin cikin ɗari. 14:59.825 --> 15:04.800 Don haka za ka ga cewa wannan rushewar yanayi ce da ake tallafawa. 15:04.800 --> 15:11.675 Kuma saboda ba shi da riba ta tattalin arziki – musamman tashoshin samar da wutar iska, domin yanayin iska a 15:11.675 --> 15:18.660 Switzerland ba shi da kyau sosai – yanzu sai mu taimaka da manyan tallafi domin a iya aiwatar da shi. 15:18.660 --> 15:23.273 Wani matsala, kamar yadda ka ambata a taƙaice a cikin ƙaramar jimla, ita ce makamashin yau da 15:23.273 --> 15:25.977 kullum, wato makamashin band, da ake buƙata a zahiri. 15:25.977 --> 15:30.885 Yanzu abin fahimta ne cewa idan ruwan sama ya sauka ko idan duhu ya yi, wutar rana ba ta aiki. 15:30.885 --> 15:33.540 Idan ba iska, wutar iska ba za ta yi aiki ba. 15:33.540 --> 15:35.232 Ta yaya za a warware wannan matsala? 15:35.232 --> 15:41.004 Daidai gwargwado, ko wannan ba wata sabuwar matsala ba ce idan ka zuba jari sosai a irin waɗannan masu 15:41.004 --> 15:44.640 samar da makamashi marasa tabbas kuma masu sauyawa? 15:44.640 --> 15:52.259 Wannan shi ne ainihin babban matsala a cikin umarnin gabaɗaya da ba a fayyace ba kuma yana haifar da sabbin matsaloli. 15:52.259 --> 15:58.321 Ba a haɗa dukkan tsare-tsaren cibiyar sadarwa ba, ba a haɗa ajiya ba. 15:58.321 --> 16:03.456 Wannan yana nufin ana ƙara manyan adadin makamashin rana da makamashin iska. 16:03.456 --> 16:08.730 Amma yadda za a adana shi, babu wanda ya san. 16:08.730 --> 16:18.376 A ganina, amfani da hasken rana a kan rufin gida zaɓi ne mai kyau saboda za a iya amfani da shi da kuma adana shi a gida. 16:18.376 --> 16:26.185 Amma ba a tsara hakan a cikin Mantelerlass ba, cewa ya kamata a tallafa masa, cewa ya kamata a yi 16:26.185 --> 16:31.320 bincike a kansa, cewa akwai mafi kyawun zaɓuɓɓukan ajiya. 16:31.320 --> 16:37.228 Kuma hakan na nufin akwai haɗari cewa za mu bi irin hanyar Jamus, inda babbar ƙarfin wutar 16:37.228 --> 16:40.777 iska ke bayyana kwatsam sannan ta ɓace kwatsam. 16:40.777 --> 16:46.560 A rana, musamman tsakiyar rana, akwai wutar rana mai yawa, sai da daddare kwatsam babu komai. 16:46.560 --> 16:50.613 Sai kwatsam ka samu matsalolin cibiyar sadarwa masu girma. 16:50.613 --> 16:54.680 Kuma hakan yana haifar da kuɗaɗe da rashin tabbas. 16:54.680 --> 17:00.972 Kuma yanzu wannan babban batu ne na suka ga wannan umarnin gaba ɗaya. 17:00.972 --> 17:05.540 Wani batu, wanda ka riga ka ambata sau da dama, shi ne shiga dimokuradiyya. 17:05.540 --> 17:10.940 A bayyane yake cewa wannan doka tana kuma takaita damar yin ƙalubale. 17:10.940 --> 17:14.773 Switzerland an san ta sosai saboda ka'idar ta ta karamar hukuma. 17:14.773 --> 17:19.013 Wannan yana nufin cewa ana yanke shawara a matakin da ya fi ƙasa, kai tsaye ta hannun waɗanda abin ya shafa. 17:19.013 --> 17:21.002 Yanzu a zahiri ana mayar da shi cibiya guda. 17:21.002 --> 17:26.648 Majalisar Tarayya, gwamnatin tarayya, wato gwamnatin ƙasa, tana samun ƙarin iko. 17:26.648 --> 17:36.630 Ta yaya wannan takura kan damar yin adawa, damar shiga, da haɗin yanke shawara na dimokuraɗiyya da 'yan ƙasa ke bayyana kansa? 17:36.630 --> 17:42.368 A Switzerland, muna da zaɓuɓuka biyu don yin tasiri a kan ayyukan samar da wutar iska. 17:42.368 --> 17:45.691 Ɗaya shi ne cewa muna kada kuri'a kan ayyuka. 17:45.691 --> 17:54.522 A halin yanzu haka ne a cikin kantuna 24 daga cikin 26, inda mazauna yankin ke jefa ƙuri'a. 17:54.522 --> 18:03.010 Sannan mutane, 'yan ƙasa masu zaman kansu da ƙungiyoyin kare muhalli za su iya gabatar da ƙorafe-ƙorafe kan 18:03.010 --> 18:11.571 ayyuka, ko da an amince da su, domin ɗaga batutuwa kamar kiyaye yanayi ko matsalolin hayaniya na kansu. 18:11.571 --> 18:19.601 Kuma za a soke su gaba ɗaya ko a takaita su ta wannan umarni na gaba ɗaya. 18:19.601 --> 18:28.200 Kamar yadda na riga na fada, umarnin Mantel na nufin bai wa Majalisar Tarayya damar soke jefa kuri'un jama'a. 18:28.200 --> 18:37.705 A gefe guda, umarnin Mantelerlass ya tanadi cewa samar da wutar lantarki ya kamata koyaushe ya fi duk sauran muradun muhimmanci. 18:37.705 --> 18:44.084 Wannan yana nufin cewa idan ka gabatar da ƙorafi ka ce wannan gonar iska za ta haifar da gurbatar hayaniya 18:44.084 --> 18:47.759 fiye da kima ga mutane da yawa, ba za a ba da izini ba. 18:47.759 --> 18:53.292 Ko a sare itatuwa, wanda ba a yarda da shi ba; ba ya daidaita da fa'idarsa. 18:53.292 --> 19:01.460 To, kotu har yanzu dole ta amince da gonar iska, domin samar da wutar lantarki koyaushe yana da fifiko kan duk sauran muradun. 19:01.460 --> 19:07.620 Don haka watakila ba za ka iya jefa ƙuri'a ba, amma har yanzu za ka iya gabatar da ƙorafi, kodayake tabbas za a ƙi shi. 19:07.620 --> 19:11.720 Don haka wannan babban raguwar dimokuradiyyarmu ta kai tsaye ne. 19:11.720 --> 19:18.261 Wannan ya kai mu kai tsaye zuwa ga maki na gaba. Wannan ma'aunin muradun ma shi ma na kundin tsarin mulki ne. 19:18.261 --> 19:25.426 Wani lauya sanannen, Farfesa Alain Griffel, ya yi suka kan wannan, yana cewa wannan umarnin gaba ɗaya ma ya sabawa kundin 19:25.426 --> 19:30.696 tsarin mulki, ya sabawa Kundin Tsarin Mulkin Tarayyar Switzerland, domin ba za a iya cewa 19:30.696 --> 19:33.868 wasu muradun sun fi wasu muhimmanci ba kwatsam. 19:33.868 --> 19:39.380 Za ka iya fayyace ainihin abin da farfesa yake suka wa sabon umarnin gabaɗaya? 19:39.380 --> 19:47.035 A Switzerland, muna da wani tanadi a cikin kundin tsarin mulki kan manufofin makamashi wanda ya ƙunshi ka'idoji biyar. 19:47.035 --> 19:53.223 Ban san ko zan iya lissafa su duka ba, amma tabbas samar da wutar lantarki ko samar da makamashi dole ne ya 19:53.223 --> 19:57.106 wadatar, ya kasance mai aminci, mai arha kuma abokiyar muhalli. 19:57.106 --> 19:59.918 Ba zan iya tuna maki na biyar a yanzu ba. 19:59.918 --> 20:03.520 Amma duk da haka, duk waɗannan batutuwan suna da muhimmanci iri ɗaya. 20:03.520 --> 20:06.420 Wannan yana nufin cewa dole ne a cimma su a lokaci guda. 20:06.420 --> 20:13.178 Wato, dole ne a dauki dacewa da muhalli da tsaron samar da wutar lantarki daidai. 20:13.178 --> 20:18.771 Kuma yanzu Majalisar Dokoki tana cewa samar da wutar lantarki ya fi muhimmanci fiye da kiyaye yanayi. 20:18.771 --> 20:24.164 Wannan wucewa ce ta kyauta wadda ke ba da damar a wuce da ayyukan da ke cutar da muhalli a ko'ina ba tare da 20:24.164 --> 20:26.986 wata matsala ba. Wannan ya saba wa kundin tsarin mulki. 20:26.986 --> 20:30.752 Ba abin da mutanen Switzerland suka so ba ne. 20:30.752 --> 20:35.040 Kuma hakan yana cutar da muhallinmu na halitta, wanda shi ne tushen kasancewarmu. 20:35.040 --> 20:39.440 Kuma hakan na iya haifar da manyan mummunan sakamako. 20:39.440 --> 20:46.139 Gaskiyar ita ce, tsawon shekaru da dama, al'ummar Switzerland sun sake-sake saka kariyar muhalli cikin kundin tsarin mulki. 20:46.139 --> 20:48.500 Don haka, wannan ne doka a aikace. 20:48.500 --> 20:54.095 Kuma yanzu ana kusan share shi gaba ɗaya da bugun alƙalami daga sama. 20:54.095 --> 20:57.888 Menene ra'ayinka game da wannan? Ta yaya wannan lamari ya faru tun farko? 20:57.888 --> 21:01.919 Abin ya yi ɗan ban mamaki. Wakilan da aka zaɓa ma sun san hakan. 21:01.919 --> 21:11.300 To menene ruhin zamani ko wace gaggawar lamari ta haifar da gabatar da irin wannan doka mai tsanani a yanzu? 21:11.300 --> 21:16.261 To, a zahiri ya fara ne tun kaka ta 2022. 21:16.261 --> 21:21.480 A da, Majalisar Dokoki ba ta taba tattauna manufofin makamashi ba tsawon shekaru. 21:21.480 --> 21:28.166 Kuma a lokacin rani na shekarar 2022, daidai lokacin da annobar coronavirus ke ƙarewa, Hukumar Wutar Lantarki ta yi 21:28.166 --> 21:35.668 babban sanarwa ga kafofin watsa labarai cewa ana gyara yawancin tashoshin samar da wutar lantarki ta nukiliya a Faransa. 21:35.668 --> 21:43.271 Kuma zai yiwu mu a Switzerland mu fuskanci karancin wutar lantarki kwatsam a hunturu mai zuwa. 21:43.271 --> 21:49.166 Sannan, cikin makonni uku, Majalisar Dokoki ta gaggauta amincewa da kudirin Solar Express kuma ta ce, "Yanzu 21:49.166 --> 21:53.885 za mu gina manyan tashoshin samar da wutar lantarki ta hasken rana a tsaunukan Alps." 21:53.885 --> 21:58.816 Don haka muna rufe manyan yankuna na tsaunukan Alps da allunan hasken rana. 21:58.816 --> 22:02.179 Kuma a wancan lokacin hakan ya riga ya saba wa kundin tsarin mulki. 22:02.179 --> 22:06.295 Kuma ya tabbata cikin makonni uku. 22:06.295 --> 22:08.880 To, hakan ya kasance gaggawa kwata-kwata. 22:08.880 --> 22:18.281 Kuma sannan, saboda hakan ya saba wa kundin tsarin mulki, ya kamata Majalisar Dokoki ta tuntuɓi al'umma ta atomatik. 22:18.281 --> 22:20.351 Dokar mu ta tanadi wannan. 22:20.351 --> 22:25.920 Idan ka kafa doka da ta saba wa kundin tsarin mulki, to dole ne ka bar al'umma su yi mata zaɓe. 22:25.920 --> 22:28.982 Kuma Majalisar Dokoki ta kasa yin hakan. 22:28.982 --> 22:36.920 Sannan na je Kotun Tarayya na kuma shigar da ƙara, ina cewa ainihin ya kamata a gabatar da wannan ga masu zaɓe. 22:36.920 --> 22:41.620 Sa'an nan Kotun Tarayya ta ce, eh, Majalisar Dokoki ce ke da cikakken iko a Switzerland. 22:41.620 --> 22:50.031 Kuma a cikin wannan ruhin ikon komai, a cikin wannan wayewar, an wuce doka ɗaya bayan ɗaya. 22:50.031 --> 22:53.226 Jirgin iska ya iso, kuma yanzu wannan umarnin riga. 22:53.226 --> 23:01.228 Kuma Majalisar Dokoki ba ta nuna damuwa ko an aiwatar da kundin tsarin mulki ko a'a. 23:01.228 --> 23:04.744 Za su yi komai don samar da wutar lantarki. 23:04.744 --> 23:11.432 Ina so in zurfafa kaɗan cikin yiwuwar lahani ga yanayi da shimfidar wurare da kuke tsoro. 23:11.432 --> 23:16.785 Menene ainihin abin da zai yiwu da wannan doka, ko kuma menene kake tsoro? 23:16.785 --> 23:21.596 Wadanne takamaiman matakan tsoma baki ne za a iya yi a cikin yanayi? 23:21.596 --> 23:28.742 To, da farko kuma mafi muhimmanci, an tsara manyan filayen hasken rana kuma ana iya aiwatar da su a tsaunukan Alps. 23:28.742 --> 23:37.222 A gaskiya, wannan zaɓi ne na ɗan lokaci kawai da aka yanke shawara a kan sa a kaka ta 2022 a matsayin mataki 23:37.222 --> 23:41.891 na gajeren lokaci don magance ƙarancin wutar lantarki. 23:41.891 --> 23:45.160 Kuma yanzu haka ya kamata ya zama yiwuwar a dogon lokaci. 23:45.160 --> 23:52.738 Wannan yana nufin cewa za a iya rufe manyan filayen kiwo na tsaunuka da gine-ginen ƙarfe da allunan hasken rana. 23:52.738 --> 23:58.941 Wani abu kuma shi ne cewa ya kamata a bayyana izinin turubayin iska a cikin dazuzzuka a Switzerland. 23:58.941 --> 24:05.959 Wannan yana nufin cewa, domin kare yanayi, mutane suna shiga dazuka, suna share daji daidai girman filin wasan ƙwallon ƙafa 24:05.959 --> 24:09.521 domin ginin injin tururin iska, sannan su girka ɗaya a can... 24:09.521 --> 24:12.600 Shin an riga an bayyana hakan a fili a cikin doka, ko kuwa ana iya fassara shi? 24:12.600 --> 24:16.146 Shin hakan na nufin kana son sauƙaƙa shi, ko kuwa haka kawai yake? 24:16.146 --> 24:21.739 Don haka, a cikin shari'a, turubinan iska a cikin dazuzzuka suna da iyaka ga wurin da aka kafa su. 24:21.739 --> 24:29.379 Kuma wannan babban sauƙi ne, ko da ba amincewa da gina gonakin iska a cikin dazuzzuka ba. 24:29.379 --> 24:37.080 Yana da muhimmanci a tuna cewa kanton na Zurich, wanda shi ne kanton mafi yawan jama'a a Switzerland, yana da mazauna sama da 24:37.080 --> 24:43.918 miliyan ɗaya. Yanzu akwai shirye-shirye na gina turbin iska 120, daga ciki 110 za a gina su a cikin daji, domin 24:43.918 --> 24:48.352 babu wani wuri da ya fi samuwa sai kan tuddai da cikin daji. 24:48.352 --> 24:52.060 Kuma waɗannan su ne a zahiri tasirin muhalli mafi tsanani. 24:52.060 --> 24:57.565 Tabbas, akwai kuma tashoshin samar da wutar lantarki ta ruwa da mutane za su so gina a wuraren rayuwar 24:57.565 --> 25:00.705 halittu masu muhimmanci ga jiha, kuma hakan ma zai yiwu. 25:00.705 --> 25:03.080 Halitta ba ta da muhimmanci kwata-kwata yanzu. 25:03.080 --> 25:04.972 Yana ɗan ba shi da ma'ana, ko ba haka ba? 25:04.972 --> 25:09.960 Mutane suna son ceto yanayi, shi ya sa ake wannan hayaniya game da makamashin sabuntawa. 25:09.960 --> 25:13.111 A lokaci guda, ana sare dazuzzuka kuma ana halaka yanayi. 25:13.111 --> 25:15.166 Ta yaya hakan ke aiki? 25:15.166 --> 25:17.440 Shi ne daidai abin ban mamaki. 25:17.440 --> 25:25.780 Ba daidai ba ne mu share dazuzzuka don abin da ake kira makamashin kore. 25:25.780 --> 25:29.923 A Switzerland ba a da sarari mai yawa, dole ne ka gane hakan. 25:29.923 --> 25:35.384 Switzerland tana da yawan jama'a sosai, daga yamma zuwa gabas, daga arewa zuwa kudu. 25:35.384 --> 25:42.735 Kuma idan kuna son faɗaɗa ƙarfin wutar iska sosai, to dole ne ku yi la'akari da cewa a yanzu turbin-turbin 25:42.735 --> 25:47.319 suna da tsayin mita 250, kuma suna buƙatar isasshen fili. 25:47.319 --> 25:55.312 Kuma a Switzerland, dazuzzuka har yanzu su ne tsibiran bambancin halittu, amma kuma su ne tsibiran nishadi ga jama'a. 25:55.312 --> 25:58.583 Haka kuma koyaushe suna da gefunan daji da aka yi masu yankan ciyayi sosai. 25:58.583 --> 26:04.267 Da farko filin ya kasance mai buɗewa sosai, kuma a cikin filin akwai bishiyoyi da yawa. 26:04.267 --> 26:06.587 A yau, an share dazuzzuka. 26:06.587 --> 26:11.077 Yanzu kuma suna shiga cikin daji, suna son gina hanyoyi masu faɗin mita goma da tsabtace wani 26:11.077 --> 26:13.943 yanki na daji mai girman filin wasan ƙwallon ƙafa. 26:13.943 --> 26:17.342 Kuma a zahiri wannan shine babban hujjar mu. 26:17.342 --> 26:21.140 Ba za ka iya sare itatuwa ba don kare yanayi. 26:21.140 --> 26:24.914 Kana fitowa ne daga mahallin da ke suka ikon iska. 26:24.914 --> 26:30.085 Yanzu, idan ka ja baya da rabi mataki ka kimanta halin da ake ciki, a ina kake tsammanin za a yi barna mafi girma? 26:30.085 --> 26:34.197 Shin waɗannan su ne turbin iska, manyan tashoshin samar da wutar lantarki ta ruwa, ko watakila 26:34.197 --> 26:36.724 tashoshin samar da wutar lantarki ta rana a tsaunukan Alps? 26:36.724 --> 26:41.180 Za ka iya bayyana a adadi inda kake ganin mafi muni barazanar ga yanayi take? 26:41.180 --> 26:49.457 Tare da wutar ruwa, tabbas kana samun fa'ida mai yawa da ƙaramin zuba jari. 26:49.457 --> 26:52.787 Akwai lahani a can ma, tabbas. 26:52.787 --> 27:02.826 Amma da tsarin samar da wutar lantarki ta hasken rana, za a iya gaskata cewa za a gina manyan yankuna na tsaunukan Alps. 27:02.826 --> 27:08.688 A ganina, wannan yana da matuƙar lahani, domin Switzerland tana bunƙasa ne bisa ga kyawun shimfidar ƙasarta. 27:08.688 --> 27:15.586 Shimfidar ƙasa tana da matuƙar muhimmanci ga ƙasarmu – idan aka yi la'akari da tarihi. 27:15.586 --> 27:24.271 Muna da manyan otal-otal da dama da aka gina a wurare masu ba da kyakkyawan kallo na tsaunukan Alps. 27:24.271 --> 27:27.456 Kuma daidai waɗannan tsaunukan Alps ne za a gina a kansu yanzu. 27:27.456 --> 27:30.802 Wannan yana nufin cewa shi ma yana da muhimmanci na tarihi. 27:30.802 --> 27:37.618 Kuma eh, abu na biyu shi ne dazuzzuka, inda nake ganin wannan lalacewar. 27:37.618 --> 27:40.954 Wannan batu mai ban sha'awa ne da ka ɗaga game da yankunan yawon buɗe ido, game da tsaunukan Alps. 27:40.954 --> 27:43.704 Kanton na Graubünden yana son zama jagora a wannan fanni. 27:43.704 --> 27:45.663 Ina farin cikin ɗaukar alamar. 27:45.663 --> 27:51.989 Sun dai gaske suna son ci gaba da yin hakan, suna son su sami su a yankuna x, ina tsammani a yankuna 30, kuma – gyara ni idan na 27:51.989 --> 27:58.573 kuskure – sama da su ashirin da hudu a kowane hali an kawar da su a wurare masu daraja, a gangaren dutse, kamar yadda ake cewa. 27:58.573 --> 28:02.629 Don haka, banda St. Moritz, ina tsammanin za ku ga waɗannan manyan turbin iska a gaban 28:02.629 --> 28:05.253 kowace babbar cibiyar yawon buɗe ido a nan gaba. 28:05.253 --> 28:13.103 Ta yaya kuke kimanta wannan dangane da muhimmancin yawon bude ido da tattalin arzikin Switzerland? 28:13.103 --> 28:16.548 Daidai ne, injunan tururin iska suna da girma sosai, suna kuma buƙatar fili. 28:16.548 --> 28:21.702 Dole ne a gina su a wurare da ke bayyane inda iska ke yi. 28:21.702 --> 28:29.755 Kuma lokacin da gwamnatin tarayya ta ba da umarnin ga kanton Graubünden, ɗaya daga cikin shahararrun wuraren yawon buɗe ido a 28:29.755 --> 28:37.229 duniya, ya girka na'urorin turbin iska guda 100, ba za a iya kauce wa gaskiyar cewa za a gina waɗannan turbin iska a 28:37.229 --> 28:46.160 Davos, a Lenzerheide, a Arosa, kusa da Gandun Daji na Ƙasa na Switzerland ba – wato, a duk wuraren yawon buɗe ido mafi shahara. 28:46.160 --> 28:53.739 Kuma kamar yadda na ce, a tarihi wannan yana da matuƙar muhimmanci saboda yawon buɗe ido 28:53.739 --> 28:57.872 da tsaunukan Alps suna ɓangare na asalinmu. 28:57.872 --> 29:05.246 A ƙarshen ƙarni na 19, Switzerland ta samu gagarumar ci gaba kuma ta zama ɗaya daga cikin ƙasashen da suka fi arziki a duniya. 29:05.246 --> 29:13.257 Kuma daidai saboda waɗannan shimfidar ƙasa ne mutane da yawa daga ƙasashen waje suka zo wurinmu don su yaba da su. 29:13.257 --> 29:18.795 Ni kaina ina ganin abin baƙin ciki sosai cewa ba a daraja tsaunukan Alps ƙari, kuma ina ganin 29:18.795 --> 29:22.780 wannan ci gaba ne mai muni daga Majalisar Dokoki. 29:22.780 --> 29:29.642 Yanzu, duk waɗannan umarnin, wannan umarni na gabaɗaya, waɗannan shawarwarin bayyananne daban-daban da ka 29:29.642 --> 29:36.136 ambata, Solarexpress, Windexpress, a zahiri suna cikin mahallin abin da ake kira sauyin makamashi. 29:36.136 --> 29:41.402 Akwai sha'awar barin amfani da mai fosil, amma a lokaci guda akwai shakku game da makamashin nukiliya, kuma a 29:41.402 --> 29:46.837 halin yanzu ba a gina sabbin tashoshin samar da wutar nukiliya a Switzerland – akwai wani irin haramcin fasaha. 29:46.837 --> 29:51.064 Jamus ta riga ta dakatar da su, amma a wasu sassan duniya, yanayin ya sha bamban. 29:51.064 --> 29:53.377 Menene ra'ayinka gaba ɗaya game da wannan sauyin makamashi? 29:53.377 --> 29:55.681 Shin hakan yana da muhimmanci? Shin dole ne jihar ta matsa kan hakan? 29:55.681 --> 30:01.252 Shin tattalin arziki zai iya yin hakan? Shin zai iya tsara kansa? Menene ra'ayinka game da wannan? 30:01.252 --> 30:04.855 Canjin makamashi lamari ne mai matuƙar rikitarwa da kansa. 30:04.855 --> 30:11.363 Abin da nake gani a fili shi ne cewa mai da iskar gas suna haifar da sauyin yanayi, kuma sauyin yanayi yana da lahani. 30:11.363 --> 30:14.549 Muna buƙatar nemo mafita. 30:14.549 --> 30:16.995 Matsalar ita ce yadda 'yan siyasa ke kallon wannan batu. 30:16.995 --> 30:21.252 Ta tambayi jama'a, kuna son a dakatar da makamashin nukiliya a hankali? 30:21.252 --> 30:24.440 Al'umma ta ce eh, abin mamaki ba ne. 30:24.440 --> 30:27.665 An tambayi jama'a, "Shin kuna son a dakatar da amfani da mai fosil a hankali?" 30:27.665 --> 30:29.525 Al'umma ta ce eh. 30:29.525 --> 30:37.485 A cikin kuri'u biyun, babu wanda ya bayyana abin da hakan zai nufi, nawa ne kudin da zai kashe, ko yadda zai yi aiki daidai. 30:37.485 --> 30:45.638 Maimakon haka, an saita manufofi, al'umma ta amince da su, sannan sakamakon ya bayyana. Mutane sun fusata cewa ba ya aiki yadda 30:45.638 --> 30:54.567 ya kamata, cewa al'umma na kin amincewa, cewa an yi wa muhalli lahani, cewa yana ƙara tsada, kuma yana haifar da rashin tabbas. 30:54.567 --> 30:58.148 Ina ganin wannan halayya ba adalci ba ce. 30:58.148 --> 31:06.612 Zan fi so a faɗa wa jama'a gaskiya kuma a sanar da su cewa akwai zaɓuɓɓuka uku na samar da wutar lantarki. 31:06.612 --> 31:10.880 Da allunan hasken rana a kan rufin gida, hakan na buƙatar wannan da wancan. 31:10.880 --> 31:15.494 Da tashoshin samar da wutar lantarki da iskar gas, hakan yana nufin wannan da wancan ga yanayi. 31:15.494 --> 31:23.521 Da tashoshin samar da wutar lantarki na nukiliya, hakan na nufin wannan da wancan game da sharar, ajiya, da siyan uranium. 31:23.521 --> 31:25.800 To, ka san abin da kake magana a kai. 31:25.800 --> 31:32.440 Amma yanzu kawai kana saita manufofi da suke da kyau a ji, sannan daga baya ka gano yadda za ka aiwatar da su. 31:32.440 --> 31:35.270 Kuma ina da tsananin shakku game da hakan. 31:35.270 --> 31:42.117 Wata irin manufofi ce ta almara kuma ba gaskiya sosai ba, idan zan iya taƙaita ta haka. 31:42.117 --> 31:48.956 Idan aka duba magoya bayan wannan umarnin gaba ɗaya, tambaya ta taso game da wanene ainihin ke ciki. 31:48.956 --> 31:52.473 Kuma a matsayin mai kallo ba tare da son rai ba, na ɗan yi mamaki. 31:52.473 --> 31:59.412 Wannan ya shafi kowa daga hagu zuwa dama, daga manyan masu wutar lantarki da ƙungiyoyin kasuwanci masu ƙarfi har 31:59.412 --> 32:03.514 zuwa Jam'iyyar Kore da sauran ƙungiyoyin muhalli, ba naka ba. 32:03.514 --> 32:10.762 Ta yaya zai yiwu cewa 'yan adawa na siyasa da yawa suka fara aiki tare kwatsam? Me hakan ke gaya mana? 32:10.762 --> 32:16.151 Don haka matsalar a nan ita ce cewa da yawa daga cikin 'yan wasan da yanzu ke goyon bayan umarnin gaba 32:16.151 --> 32:19.564 ɗaya suna cikin jirgi ɗaya a cikin Haɗin Kai na Yanayi. 32:19.564 --> 32:23.949 Wannan yana nufin cewa a cikin Haɗin Kan Yanayi, ƙungiyar masu fafutukar makamashin rana 32:23.949 --> 32:27.025 suna cikin jirgi ɗaya da ƙungiyoyin kare muhalli. 32:27.025 --> 32:32.259 Kuma wannan, tabbas, wata sabani ce idan ana maganar kiyaye yanayi. 32:32.259 --> 32:35.528 Idan ana maganar kare yanayi, tabbas dukkansu suna da ra'ayi ɗaya. 32:35.528 --> 32:38.680 Akwai rikice-rikice idan ana maganar kiyaye yanayi. 32:38.680 --> 32:45.054 Sai a lokacin na gane cewa sau da yawa ba a sami kashin baya ba, mutane kuma sukan ce, eh, mu a matsayin 32:45.054 --> 32:51.576 ƙungiyoyin muhalli ba mu tsaya kawai ga kariyar yanayi ba, har ila yau muna goyon bayan kiyaye dabi'a. 32:51.576 --> 32:58.891 Kuma a nan, akwai buƙatar ƙarin haske sosai, da kuma ƙarfin gwiwa na fuskantar manyan masu kasuwancin wutar lantarki, mu 32:58.891 --> 33:06.110 ce, eh, dukkanmu muna goyon bayan kariyar yanayi, amma idan batun kiyaye yanayi ya taso, a nan kawance ya ƙare. 33:06.110 --> 33:08.906 Kuma hakan na buƙatar jarumta, wanda a fili yake babu. 33:08.906 --> 33:15.734 Yanzu kuma, da umarnin Mantel, bangarorin biyu suna cikin jirgi ɗaya: ƙungiyoyin kare muhalli, watakila suna matse haƙora, da 33:15.734 --> 33:21.470 manyan masu kasuwancin wutar lantarki, waɗanda ke farin ciki saboda suna sa ran tallafin da zai zubo idan 33:21.470 --> 33:25.210 aka ba su izinin gina ko'ina, har ma a fili na waje. 33:25.210 --> 33:28.993 Jaridar Neue Zürcher Zeitung ta buga taken labarin game da kai tana cewa, "Masu kiyaye 33:28.993 --> 33:31.804 shimfidar ƙasa ya kamata su yi hattara da Albert Rösti." 33:31.804 --> 33:36.443 Albert Rösti shine Misisitar Tarayya da ke da alhakin wannan fayil. 33:36.443 --> 33:38.616 Ta yaya kake shirin shawo kan masu zaɓe? 33:38.616 --> 33:42.302 Za a gudanar da kuri'ar raba kawuna a watan Yuni na wannan shekara. 33:42.302 --> 33:45.138 Wannan jadawali ne mai matuƙar takaitacce. 33:45.138 --> 33:47.970 Wataƙila an zaɓe shi da gangan. 33:47.970 --> 33:54.085 Ina ganin jama'a ba su da isasshen bayani game da abin da zai nufi idan aka amince da wannan umarnin gaba 33:54.085 --> 33:59.901 ɗaya, tare da waɗannan manufofi, waɗannan ƙuntatawa da waɗannan batutuwan da ba a warware ba. 33:59.901 --> 34:02.893 Kuma ina ganin dole ne a sanar da jama'a cikin cikakken rashin nuna son rai. 34:02.893 --> 34:07.956 Me ake nufi da gina turbin iska? Me ake nufi da gina ɗaya a cikin daji? 34:07.956 --> 34:14.520 Me ake nufi da gina tashar samar da wutar lantarki ta hasken rana a tsaunukan Alps mai girman filayen wasan ƙwallon ƙafa 100? 34:14.520 --> 34:17.200 Me ke faruwa a lokacin sanyi idan akwai dusar ƙanƙara? 34:17.200 --> 34:25.277 Kuma ina ganin cewa kawai kuna buƙatar kusantar mutane da hotuna da bayanai, sannan ku 34:25.277 --> 34:30.000 ƙirƙiri bayanai a fadin tashoshi daban-daban. 34:30.000 --> 34:35.168 Kuma wannan tabbas ita ce hanyar da za a yi amfani da ita don shawo kan jama'a cewa waɗannan su ne 34:35.168 --> 34:39.081 manufofin da muke kada kuri'a a kansu da kuma sakamakonsu. 34:39.081 --> 34:46.019 Baya ga wannan kuri'ar referendamu, wadda, kamar yadda na fada, aka tsara ta watan Yuni, kwanan nan kun kuma sanar da sabbin 34:46.019 --> 34:49.257 shirye-shirye guda biyu na jama'a da suka yi kama da juna. 34:49.257 --> 34:52.394 Za ka iya taƙaitaccen bayani kan abin da wannan ke ƙunsa? 34:52.394 --> 34:59.280 A cikin ƙungiyarmu, Freie Landschaft Schweiz (Yankin Kasa Mai Yanci na Switzerland), kiyaye yanayi da dimokuradiyya kai tsaye 34:59.280 --> 35:03.576 su ne batutuwa biyu da ke da matuƙar muhimmanci a zukatanmu. 35:03.576 --> 35:09.560 Dimokuradiyya kai tsaye da kiyaye yanayi yanzu dukkansu suna fuskantar barazana daga wannan umarni gaba ɗaya. 35:09.560 --> 35:18.681 Amma mun riga mun ga a Majalisar Dokoki cewa ana gabatar da ra'ayoyi masu hauka fiye da haka don kawar da jefa kuri'un ra'ayin 35:18.681 --> 35:23.267 jama'a gaba ɗaya a doka, domin ƙarin takaita kiyayewar yanayi. 35:23.267 --> 35:25.977 Kuma a nan ne muke son ɗaukar matakan mayar da martani. 35:25.977 --> 35:32.798 Mun kaddamar da shirye-shirye guda biyu masu farin jini: Shirin Kariya na Gandun Daji da Shirin Kariya na Al'umma. 35:32.798 --> 35:39.615 Shirin Kare Gandun Daji na son a hana ba da izinin gina turbin iska a cikin gandun daji da kan iyakokinsu. 35:39.615 --> 35:44.988 Kuma shirin kare al'umma na son inji-inji na iska, idan aka gina su, su kasance koyaushe 35:44.988 --> 35:48.507 suna buƙatar amincewar mutanen da abin ya shafa. 35:48.507 --> 35:51.193 Kuma ana fara tattara tarin sa hannu yanzu. 35:51.193 --> 35:58.937 Kuma dole ne mu tattara sahihan sa hannu 100,000 kafin Yuli 2025. 35:58.937 --> 36:00.821 Yanzu muna sha'awar ganin ko za ku yi nasara. 36:00.821 --> 36:04.122 Kuma tabbas za a yi kamfen na gaba na kuri'ar raba kawuna. 36:04.122 --> 36:07.706 Wannan wani abu ne daban da za a yi fatan gani. Wataƙila wata ƙarshe tambaya ta kashin kai. 36:07.706 --> 36:14.138 Suna har yanzu matasa ne kuma sun riga sun yi matukar sadaukarwa ga wadannan batutuwan kiyaye muhalli da shimfidar kasa. 36:14.138 --> 36:17.556 Ta yaya ka fara shiga cikin wannan aikin? 36:17.556 --> 36:19.753 Wataƙila yana cikin iyali. 36:19.753 --> 36:26.726 Uwar tawa ta riga ta shiga sosai ko ta yi hulɗa da aikin kiyaye muhalli na shimfidar ƙasa. 36:26.726 --> 36:34.360 Ta girma a cikin shekarun 1970 a Wangen a bakin Tafkin Zurich a kanton Schwyz, inda aka gina babbar 36:34.360 --> 36:38.986 hanyar A3 ta tsakiyar ƙauyen a cikin shekarun 1970. 36:38.986 --> 36:44.580 A cikin shekarun 1980, ta koma ƙanton Zurich, zuwa Bonstetten. 36:44.580 --> 36:48.868 A can, suna son gina babbar hanyar A4 ta cikin yankin karkara mai buɗewa. 36:48.868 --> 36:54.820 Kuma a cikin shekarun 1990, mahaifiyata ta koma tare da mahaifina zuwa Grenchen a kanton Solothurn. 36:54.820 --> 37:00.769 A can, kamar yadda sa'a ta kasance, sun so su gina babbar hanyar A5 ta cikin yankin karkara mai buɗewa. 37:00.769 --> 37:07.185 Kuma wannan jajircewa daga bangaren iyayena biyun ta shafe ni ma. 37:07.185 --> 37:11.809 Ina zaune a wuri mai kyau ƙwarai a Grenchen, tsakanin Jura da Filayen Switzerland. 37:11.809 --> 37:16.926 Hakanan za ka iya ganin tsaunukan Alps, don haka a zahiri duk manyan shimfidar wurare uku na Switzerland. 37:16.926 --> 37:23.500 Kuma sai in yi tunani a kaina, zan kasance shekaru 54 kacal a shekarar 2050. 37:23.500 --> 37:33.160 Ina so in bar 'ya'yana da wani shimfidar ƙasa mai amfani ga muhalli. 37:33.160 --> 37:41.420 Kuma don kiyaye da kuma kula da wannan shimfidar ƙasa har tsawon lokacin da zai yiwu, kamar yadda take a yau. 37:41.420 --> 37:46.420 Na gode ƙwarai. Muna yi maka fatan nasara a wannan babban aikin, wanda tuni ke kallon gaba. 37:46.420 --> 37:49.577 Na gode da kasancewarka tare da mu a shirin. Elias Vogt, na gode. 37:49.577 --> 37:53.560 Kuma gare ku, ƙaunatattun masu kallo, ina gode muku da kulawarku. 37:53.560 --> 38:01.560 Ina sa ran ganinku sake mako mai zuwa lokacin da za mu ce, maraba zuwa shirin tattaunawar siyasa a HOCH2.TV.