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Ngomhla wama-29 kuSeptemba 2023, iPalamente yaseSwitzerland
ipasise "iMimiselo yoHlengahlengiso oluFanayo yoNikezelo

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oluKhuselekileyo lwaMbane ovela kuMbane oHlaziyekayo" ngenjongo
ekuthiwa kukomeleza ukhuseleko lonikezelo lombane ebusika.

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Lo mthetho ubizwa ngokuba yi-"Mantelerlass"
okanye ngokufutshane "uMthetho wokuNika uMbane".

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Oku kufanele kulungiselele indlela yokwanda
kwemveliso yombane ezivela kwizikhululo

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zamandla elanga, omoya kunye namanzi elizweni.

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Ngokomthetho omtsha, iBhunga leFederal laseSwitzerland liza
kukwazi ukumisela ukuba zingaphi izityalo

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ezinokwakhiwa, nini, naphi, nokuba zizakhiwe
njani ukuze kuveliswe amandla ahlaziyekayo.

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Imiqathango eyahlukeneyo efana ne-Alliance for Nature and
Landscape Switzerland, umbutho we-Free Landscape Switzerland

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kunye ne-Fondation Franz Weber isungule
ireferendamu echasa umthetho omtsha wombuso waza

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wangenisa iisayini eziyi-63,184 ngoJanyuwari 2024.

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Ngoko ke, esi siphakamiso siphikisanayo siza kufakwa
kubavoti baseSwitzerland ukuze bavote ngomhla we-9 kuJuni 2024.

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Esona sizathu siphambili esibekwa ngabaxhasi
sesokuba uMthetho oMtsha wuMbane uyimfuneko ukunqanda

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ukunqongophala kombane okusondelayo eSwitzerland.

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Umbutho i-"Aufrecht Schweiz" ubhekisa
koku njengengxaki yamandla eyenziweyo.

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"Aufrecht Schweiz" ngumatsholo wabemi ofuna ukuba
negalelo kwezopolitiko zaseSwitzerland ngabagqatswa abazimeleyo.

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Kwisibhengezo sabo seendaba esinesihloko esithi "Ukunqongophala
kombane eSwitzerland? Akunakwenzeka!" esapapashwa ekwindla

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lowama-2022, isazi sekhompyutha esithathe
umhlalaphantsi esivela kumsebenzi wombane kunye neenjineli

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zombane ezithathe umhlalaphantsi babhale oku kulandelayo:

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"Ngokulandela isicwangciso sokoyikisa esixhaswa liqela
elinamandla, i-Ofisi yeNergi kaRhulumente iyanceda ngqo

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iinkampani zegesi nezeoyile kunye nabarhwebi ngombane.

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(…) Xa urhulumente esicenga ukuba songe umbane,
akukhona ngenxa yokuba sinambane omncinci, kodwa kungenxa

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yokuba sithengisa umbane ngexabiso eliphantsi kakhulu.

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Ikhilowathi nganye esiyongayo iyanceda iinkampani
zombane, kuba zikwazi ukuthengisa umbane owonjiweyo

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eSwitzerland phesheya kwelizwe ngexabiso eliphezulu kakhulu.

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Kwingxelo, uMbutho wabaHambisi baMbane base-Aargau (VAS)
uye waphawula ukuba lo myalelo ubanzi uza kufuna uhlengahlengiso

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olupheleleyo lweziseko zophuhliso zombane zesizwe sonke.

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Kude kube ngoku, umbane ubunikezelwa kubasebenzisi
abagqibeleyo ngokusekelwe kwisigqibo esingqongqo nesingqineke

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sisebenza sezikhululo zombane ezinkulu nezimanyeneyo.

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Nangona kunjalo, iziseko zokuhambisa kufuneka zilawulwe ngendlela
engabekanga kwiziko elinye, ekufuneka

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ikwabandakanya yonke into, ingenaziphoso kwaye ivumele wonke
umntu ukuba anxibelelane nawuphi na omnye umntu.

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Ngokwe-VAS, uqikelelo olufanelekileyo luqikelela ukuba
uguqulo nokwandiswa okufunekayo kweenethiwekhi eSwitzerland

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kuphela kuza kuxabisa malunga ne-CHF 100 yeebhiliyoni.

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Ngokuyintloko ngabathengi abangenaso isibonelelo
kunye nabaqeshi abangenamali yokuzihlawulela

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abanyanzelekileyo ukuhlawulela le nkonzo yongezelelweyo.

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Njengoko kusoloko kunjalo ngemithetho emitsha, kwakhona yonke le
nto ithetha ukuba inzuzo nenkxaso-mali zenziwa

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zibe zezabucala zabambalwa, ngelixa iindleko
neengozi zabelwana nguluntu olupheleleyo oluseleyo.

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– Ngokutsho koMbutho wabaHambisi boMbane base-Aargau.

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Iikomiti ezahlukeneyo ze-NO nazo ziye zayigxeka i-Act entsha
yombane, phakathi kwezinye izinto, ngokubuza imibuzo ngemigaqo

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esisiseko yokulondolozwa kwendalo kunye nemihlaba,
le migaqo ibe yinxalenye yoMgaqo-siseko weFederal

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ngabavoti baseSwitzerland kule minyaka ingamashumi.

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Umzekelo, amahlathi ngoku anokusicinywa ukuze kwakhiwe iiturbines
zomoya, kwaye iipaki ezinkulu zomoya nelanga

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zinokwakhiwa kwiindawo ezikhuselweyo – nokuba oku kutshabalalisa
iindawo zokuhlala zezinto eziphilayo ezixabisekileyo.

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Akukho nto ingathintela ukwakhiwa kweepaki
zelanga ezinkulu kwii-Alps zaseSwitzerland.

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Iinkxweme ezininzi eziphakamileyo
zinokugqunywa zizakhiwo zentsimbi neepaneli zelanga.

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U-Elias Vogt, uMongameli wombutho i-"Freie Landschaft Schweiz"
(iLizwe elikhululekileyo laseSwitzerland), ucacisa kudliwanondlebe

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nesitishi sikamabonakude ezimeleyo i-HOCH2.TV ukuba lo
mthetho uthetha ntoni nokuba kutheni ecebisa ukuba akamkelwe.

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Isihloko senkqubo yencoko yezopolitiko sithi:
"Umthetho we-coat yinkxaso-mali yokutshabalalisa indalo".

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Kudliwano-ndlebe, uVogt uphendula kwezi ngongoma zilandelayo
zokugxekwa malunga noMthetho omtsha wuMbane, phakathi kwezinye:

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- Ukuthatha inxaxheba kwabantu
kunye nelungelo lokuchasa kusengozini

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- Ukuveliswa kombane kubekwe phambili
kunolondolozo lwendalo kuMthetho oMtsha waMbane

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- Umonakalo wendalo "ngokomthetho" uyenzeka

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- Ukugqwethwa kwee-Alps: ukuveliswa
kombane kubekwe phambili kunokhenketho

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U-Elias Vogt ubhekisa kwisigxeko esivela kengcali
yezomthetho uNjing. Gqr. Alain Griffel esithi ummiselo jikelele

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ophikisanwayo waphula uMgaqo-siseko weRiphabliki yaseSwitzerland.

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Imveliso yamandla kufuneka yanele, ikhuselekile,
ingabizi kakhulu kwaye ingonakalisi indalo, umzekelo.

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Nangona kunjalo, iindlela zokulinganisela
ukungangcolisi kokusingqongileyo nokhuseleko

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lonikezelo lombane kufuneka ziphathwe ngokulinganayo.

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Akisayi kuphinda kube njalo ngoku kuvele uMthetho oMtsha waMbane.

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Kuyacaca ukuba, phantsi koxinzelelo olukhulu,
iPalamente yaseSwitzerland ipasise umthetho ongahambisaniyo

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nomgaqo-siseko kwaye ucinezela amalungelo edemokhrasi.

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Uloyiko lokunqongophala kombane ekuthiwa kuya kubakho
ebusika lwenza iPhalamende isuke yenze ngokungxama.

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Bantu abavotayo baseSwitzerland: Ingaba nani nifuna ukuthintela
ukupheliswa kwamalungelo esiseko edemokhrasi

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kunye nokonakaliswa komhlaba waseSwitzerland phantsi
kwesigqubuthelo sokukhuthaza amandla ahlaziyekayo?

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Ke ngomhla we-9 kuJuni, faka ivoti ethi HAYI
nxamnye ne-"Mantelerlass" ebhokisini yevoti.

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Bukela udliwano-ndlebe lwexesha elingamashumi amabini anesihlanu
emzuzwini noGqr. Philipp Gut kunye no-Elias Vogt, uMongameli

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wombutho i-"Freie Landschaft Schweiz" (Free
Landscape Switzerland), kwinkqubo yencoko yezopolitiko

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yesitishi sikamabonakude esizimeleyo i-HOCH2.TV.

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Udliwano-ndlebe

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Ababukeli abathandekayo, ndiyanibulisa
ngobushushu kwinkqubo yencoko yezopolitiko kwi-HOCH2.TV.

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Uyayazi, uyayibona: le nkqubo isoloko ithe ngqo,
inyanisekile, izibophelele kwinyani, kwaye isoloko

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ibandakanya iindwendwe ezichulumancisayo ezinento yokuthetha.

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Namhlanje, ndamkela u-Elias Vogt, umongameli wombutho i-"Freie
Landschaft Schweiz" (iLizwe elikhululekileyo laseSwitzerland),

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ongumntu wezopolitiko omtsha eSwitzerland,
ukuba ndingatsho, osele enempembelelo enkulu

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kwaye ngokuqinisekileyo ofuna ukwenza ngakumbi.

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Kuhle kakhulu ukuba nawe kule nkqubo.

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Enkosi kakhulu, Mnu Gut, ngomemo.

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Ndimvuyiswe kakhulu nokuba lapha.

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Kutshanje uququzelele ngempumelelo
ireferendamu kunye neminye imibutho.

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Ngoko ke, kubabukeli baseJamani nase-Austria:
eSwitzerland, kunokwenzeka ukucela umngeni kwimithetho

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epasisiweyo yipalamente kwaye kufunyanwe ireferendamu ngayo.

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Baphumelele; ubuncinci kufuneka
iisayini ezingama-50,000 ukuze oku kwenzeke.

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Imalunga nomthetho obanzi ekuthiwa
ujolise ekukhuthazeni amandla ahlaziyekayo.

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Phambi kokuba sigxeke lo msebenzi, ungatsho na ukuba
lo mthetho wenzelwe ukufezekisa ntoni kanye kanye?

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Yintoni kanye kanye le myalelo ithi yeyokubanzi?

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Umthetho-sisonke sisihlaziyo semithetho
eyahlukeneyo esidibene ndawonye, masithi, ngoko ke le gama.

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Kwelinye icala, kuza kuphuculwa uMthetho wamaMandla, kwelinye
icala, uMthetho wokuNikezelwa kumbane, kwaye

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okwesithathu, uMthetho woCwangciso lweNdawo, kwaye
ngokuphuculwa okubandakanya yonke le mithetho mithathu.

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Eyona njongo iphambili kukwandiswa
okukhulu kwamandla omoya nelanga eSwitzerland.

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Kodwa kwakhona ukwakhiwa
kwezikhululo zombane zamanzi ezinkulu ezili-16.

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Zonke ezi nkalo zinxulumene namandla ahlaziyekayo
kunye nokwandiswa kwawo zilawulwa kweli phakheji libanzi.

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Nantsi into efihlakeleyo ngasemva
kwesigama esithi 'umthetho wemantle'.

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Ngoko ke lo mthetho unguhlobo lomthetho ophakamileyo
oqulethe uhlengahlengiso lwemithetho eyahlukeneyo, akunjalo?

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Kanye. Kwaye ikwabandakanya nemibuzo emininzi evulekileyo.

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Oku kuthetha ukuba iBhunga leFederal, eliyurhulumente
wethu, lingalawula iinkcukacha ezithile kwinqanaba lomyalelo.

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Zininzi iinkcukacha apho izinto ziqala ukuba nzulu.

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INgqungquthela yeFederal ingakwazi,
umzekelo, ukunciphisa iinkqubo zokunika imvume.

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Kwaye ngenxa yokuba iSwitzerland ikwasebenzisa umgaqo wozimiso
lwamasipala, nto leyo ethetha ukuba abemi

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baseSwitzerland banokugqiba ngokuthe ngqo
ngocwangciso lwengingqi kwindawo yabo, kummasipala wabo.

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Ukuba iBhunga leFederal liyifutshane le nto, lingatsho nje
ukuba ezi masipala azisathathi nxaxheba, kwaye liyakuphelisa

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nodemokhrasi ngqo kunye neereferendamu kwezi masipala.

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Ewe, siza kubuyela kumanqaku ogxeko kamva.

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Mhlawumbi kuqala, nantsi inkcazelo
emfutshane ngolungiselelo lwe-boom.

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Umbuzo wam olandelayo kulo mxholo.

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Awuzange uqalise ireferendamu ngokwakho.

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Ngubani omnye owayengumlingane?

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Zeziphi iintlangano ezisemva koku?

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Ngoko ke kuqala, umntu oyimfihlo uqalise ireferendamu.

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UPierre-Alain Bruchez, owayesakuba yingcali yezemali
nomqeshwa karhulumente womdibaniso ngoku othathe umhlalaphantsi,

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wazibuza ukuba yintoni na eyayiqulethwe kulo myalelo jikelele.

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Wabona ukuba lo mthetho uza kuvumela ukuba kwakhiwe
iipaki zelanga ezinkulu kakhulu kwiintaba zeAlps.

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Waza ke wavela phambi kwamajelo eendaba ngomhla we-10 ku-Okthobha
kunyaka ophelileyo waza wathi, ndibiza ireferendamu ngale nto.

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Kwaye ke loo "Fondation Franz Weber" eyaziwayo nayo yavela
kumajelo eendaba kwiintsuku ezimbalwa kamva

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yaza yathi nathi siququzelela
ireferendamu, sixhasa amanyathelo okuphikisa, masithi.

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Kwaye ke kwenzeka ngokukhawuleza.

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Emva koko nathi apha eFreie Landschaft Schweiz
safuna ukuthatha inxaxheba kwiphulo elichasene nayo,

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ngoko ke sadibana namandla noMnu. Bruchez, masithi.

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Sikhuthaze imibutho yethu elilungu ukuba nayo iqokelele iisayini.

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Kwaye ekugqibeleni, ngeKrisimesi noNyaka oMtsha,
kwaqokelelwa iisayini ezingama-63,000 kwinani elikhulu lemibutho

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emincinci nemikhulu yokukhusela indalo nokhuseleko lwempilo.

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Ngoku mhlawumbi intetho malunga nombutho wenu,
"Freie Landschaft Schweiz" (Free Landscape Switzerland).

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Yintoni kanye kanye leyo? Ziziphi iinjongo zakho?

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"Freie Landschaft Schweiz" (Free Landscape Switzerland) eneneni
ngumbutho ongumhlanganisi wabagxeki bamandla omoya eSwitzerland.

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Sinamaklabhu amalungu amalunga nama-50
kunye nezahlulo zesithili ezisibhozo.

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Oku kunokuba eThurgau, kunokuba eVaud,
ngamanye amazwi, naphi na eSwitzerland.

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Kwaye wonke umntu uzimisele ekuqinisekiseni ulondolozo
lwendalo eSwitzerland ngokubhekiselele kwiiturbine zomoya.

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Kodwa idemokhrasi ethe ngqo, njengoko bendichazile ngaphambili,
ikwangundoqo kwisigqibo esibanzi, yiyo loo nto

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sizibophelele ngamandla onke ekulondolozeni
ulondolozo lwendalo kunye nedemokhrasi ethe ngqo.

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Ewe, masizame ukuyahlula le ngxaki
kancinci size siyisondele ngokucwangcisiweyo.

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Enye ingongoma kulo myalelo obanzi, kulo mthetho
ongaphezulu, kulo mthetho obandakanya konke, kukuba umisela

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iinjongo ezithile zokwandiswa kwamandla ahlaziyekayo.

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Ngoko ke, ngokwenene, oosopolitiki bathi isabelo
samandla elanga okanye amandla omoya kufuneka

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sibe ngolu hlobo okanye ngolo hlobo ngomhla othile.

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Uwavavanya njani la magqabantshintshi omgaqo-nkqubo? Ayenzeka na?

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Ingaba kunengqiqo ukuba oosopolitiki benze
imithetho enjalo? Luthini uluvo lwakho ngale nto?

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Ngoko ke, ummiselo weMantelerlass utsho ngamazwi angacacanga ukuba
kufuneka ivelise i-45 terawatt hours yombane eyongezelelweyo

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evela kumandla elanga nawomoya phakathi enyaka ngo-2050.

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ISwitzerland okwangoku isebenzisa
malunga nee-terawatt hours ezingama-60.

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Ngoko ke, yimali eninzi kakhulu ekufuneka yakhiwe.

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Kwaye njengoko benditshilo ngaphambili, kusaza kubonakala
ukuba yeyiphi iteknoloji eza kuvelisa umbane ongakanani.

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Oku kuthetha ukuba iBhunga leFederal ngoku
lingatsho ukuba sidinga ezi paneli zelanga

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zininzi kunye nezi turbayini zomoya zininzi.

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Mna ngokwam, ndikrokrela ukuba konke oku kuthathuka ekubeni efuna
ukufaka iiturbine zomoya ezimalunga ne-1,500 kunye neepaneli

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zelanga ezigubungela amakhulu aliqela eekhilomitha ezisikwere.

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Indawo eza kubekwa kuyo ezi, nokuba
kusezindlwini okanye kwithafa elivulekileyo,

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kuxhomekeke kwiBhunga leFederal; loo nto ayikagqitywa.

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Kwaye oku kubeka isisongelo sokuchaphazela kakhulu
indalo eSwitzerland, elizwe esele linabantu abaninzi.

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Kwaye yimali enkulu kakhulu yombane eveliswa
emini, eveliswa ngokungangqalanga xa kunomoya.

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Kwaye yonke le nkqubo, lo mthetho
mkhulu, ayilawuli iinkcukacha ngokwaneleyo.

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Kwaye yiyo loo nto kulungile ukuzibekela iinjongo;
sifuna ukuvelisa i-45 terawatt hours eyongezelelweyo.

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Kodwa ukuba oko kunokwenzeka,
zizithixo zodwa ezaziyo; akukho mntu waziyo.

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Kwaye yiyo loo nto nathi siwugxeka umthetho.

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Enye ingongoma – sisajonge uluhlu lweendawo
ezahlukeneyo ezibandakanyekayo – zizibonelelo-mali.

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Amandla ahlaziyekayo kufuneka akhuthazwe kakhulu.

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Kunjani oko?

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Sele sipasise umthetho omtsha wamandla ngo-2017.

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Le ngoku, masithi, yisigaba sesibini, lo myalelo ubanzi.

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Kwaye ngelo xesha, kwathiwa ukususela ngo-2022
ukuza phambili, akusayi kubakho zinkxaso-mali

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eziya kunikwa izikhululo zombane zelanga nomoya.

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Kwaye ngoku kuyaphulwa.

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Okwesibini, le phakheji igqwesileyo, ummiselo
jikelele, inika iBhunga leFederal inkululeko epheleleyo.

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Unako ukugqiba ukuba zingakanani na iinkxaso-mali
ezifunyanwa ziiphaneli zelanga neeturbines zomoya.

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Naphaya, asazi ukuba zizakuba zingaphi na izibonelelo.

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Kodwa kunokucingelwa ukuba ingaphezulu
kwama-50 ekhulwini yeendleko zotyalo-mali.

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Ngoko ke, umthetho ubonakala usitsho ukuba ukuya kuthi ga
kuma-60 ekhulwini eendleko zotyalo-mali unokuxhaswa ngemali.

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Ewe, zimbini iimodeli.

14:38.310 --> 14:43.500
Nokuba umtyali-mali uthi, Ndifuna i-60
pesenti yotyalo-mali oluvela kurhulumente.

14:43.500 --> 14:47.978
Emva koko uyayifumana loo nto, kwaye
kusafuneka alungiselele i-40 pesenti ebhankini.

14:47.978 --> 14:54.242
Okanye uthi urhulumente uza kunika
isiqinisekiso nge-kilowatt hour nganye ayivelisayo.

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Akukho mntu waziyo nokuba iphezulu kangakanani na.

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Loo nto mhlawumbi nayo iya kulingana nama-60 ekhulwini.

14:59.825 --> 15:04.800
Ngoko ke uyabona, olu lutshatyalaliswa kwendalo oluxhaswayo.

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Kwaye kuba kungenzeki ngokwezoqoqosho – ingakumbi izikhululo
zamandla omoya, kuba iimeko zomoya eSwitzerland

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zibi kakhulu – kwaye ngoku kufuneka sincede
ngenkxaso-mali enkulu kakhulu ukuze kwenzeke konke.

15:18.660 --> 15:23.257
Ingxaki enye, njengoko ukhankanyile
ngokufutshane kwisivakalisi esingaphantsi, yamandla

15:23.257 --> 15:25.977
aqhelekileyo, amandla ebandla, afuneka ngokwenene.

15:25.977 --> 15:30.885
Ngoku kuyavakala ukuba xa lina okanye
kuxinene, amandla elanga awasebenzi.

15:30.885 --> 15:33.540
Ukuba akukho moya, amandla omoya akasebenzi.

15:33.540 --> 15:35.232
Le ngxaki ingasonjululwa njani?

15:35.232 --> 15:40.783
Ngokuhlonipheka, ayisiyongxaki intsha na loo nto
ukuba utyala imali eninzi kakhulu kubavelisi

15:40.783 --> 15:44.640
bamandla abangathembekanga nabaguquguqukayo kangaka?

15:44.640 --> 15:52.259
Yiyo kanye leyo ingxaki enkulu kumyalelo
jikelele ongacacanga kwaye obangela iingxaki ezintsha.

15:52.259 --> 15:58.321
Ucwangciso lonke lwenethiwekhi alufakwanga, ugcino alufakwanga.

15:58.321 --> 16:03.456
Oku kuthetha ukuba isixa esikhulu
samandla elanga namandla omoya siyongezwa.

16:03.456 --> 16:08.730
Kodwa ukuba kufanele kugcinwe njani, akukho mntu waziyo.

16:08.730 --> 16:14.189
Mna ngokwam, ndicinga ukuba amandla elanga
afakwe ezindlini lukhetho olulungileyo kuba

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ungawasebenzisa uze uwagcine la mandla kwindawo yakho.

16:18.376 --> 16:26.081
Kodwa loo nto ayilawulwa kwiMantelerlass, ukuba
kufuneka ikhuthazwe, ukuba kufuneka kwenziwe

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uphando ngayo, ukuba zikho iindlela zokugcina ezingcono.

16:31.320 --> 16:37.322
Kwaye oko kuthetha ukuba kukho umngcipheko wokuba siza
kuthatha indlela efanayo neJamani, apho amandla omoya

16:37.322 --> 16:40.777
amakhulu avela ngequbuliso aze anyamalale ngequbuliso.

16:40.777 --> 16:46.560
Emini emaqanda, kukho amandla elanga amaninzi,
uze ngequbuliso ebusuku kungabikho nto kwaphela.

16:46.560 --> 16:50.613
Kwaye ke ngequbuliso uba neengxaki ezinkulu zenethiwekhi.

16:50.613 --> 16:54.680
Kwaye oko kubangela iindleko nokungaqiniseki.

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Kwaye ke ngoku leyo yindawo enkulu
yokugxekwa kwesi sigqibo sibanzi.

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Enye ingongoma, osele uyikhankanyile izihlandlo
eziliqela, kukuthatha inxaxheba kwidemokhrasi.

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Kuyabonakala ukuba lo mthetho ukwathintela amathuba okuphikisa.

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ISwitzerland idume kakhulu ngomgaqo wayo wobuncedisi.

17:14.773 --> 17:19.013
Oku kuthetha ukuba izigqibo zenziwa kwinqanaba
eliphantsi kakhulu, ngqo ngabo bachaphazelekayo.

17:19.013 --> 17:21.002
Ngoku ngokwenene iyabekwa esizikithini.

17:21.002 --> 17:26.648
IBhunga leFederal, urhulumente wefederal, oko
kukuthi urhulumente wesizwe, ufumana amandla angakumbi.

17:26.648 --> 17:32.934
Le nqobo kumathuba okuphikisa, amathuba okuthatha
inxaxheba, kunye nokuzimisa ngokubambisana ngendlela

17:32.934 --> 17:36.630
yedemokhrasi ngabemi, ibonakalisa njani kanye kanye?

17:36.630 --> 17:42.368
ESwitzerland, sineendlela ezimbini
zokuba negalelo kwiiprojekthi zamandla omoya.

17:42.368 --> 17:45.691
Enye yeyokuba sivotela iiprojekthi.

17:45.691 --> 17:54.522
Okwangoku kunjalo kwii-canton ezingama-24
kwezingama-26, apho abemi balapho bavotayo.

17:54.522 --> 18:02.218
Emva koko abantu ngabanye, abemi abaqhelekileyo kunye nemibutho
yokusingqongileyo banokufaka iziphikiso

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kwiiprojekthi, nokuba sele zivunyiwe, ukuze bavuse imiba efana
nokulondolozwa kwendalo okanye iingxaki zobuhinga bomntu.

18:11.571 --> 18:19.601
Kwaye zombini ezi nkethho ngoku ziza kupheliswa
ngokubanzi okanye zithintelwe ngalo myalelo ubanzi.

18:19.601 --> 18:28.200
Njengoko senditshilo, ummiselo weMantel ujolise ekwenzeni
ukuba iBhunga leFederal likwazi ukuphelisa iireferendamu.

18:28.200 --> 18:34.328
Kwelinye icala, ummiselo weMantelerlass umisela
ukuba ukuveliswa kombane kufuneka kuhlale kubekwa

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phambili ngaphezu kwayo yonke eminye iminqweno.

18:37.705 --> 18:43.859
Oku kuthetha ukuba ukuba ungenisa inkcaso uze uthi le
farm yomoya iza kubangela ungcoliseko lwengxolo

18:43.859 --> 18:47.759
olugqithisileyo kubantu abaninzi kakhulu, ayizukuvunyelwa.

18:47.759 --> 18:53.292
Okanye kuxhelwa imithi, nto leyo
engamkelekanga; ayilingani nenzuzo.

18:53.292 --> 18:58.632
Ngoko ke inkundla kufuneka isavume ifama
yomoya, kuba ukuveliswa kombane kuhlala

18:58.632 --> 19:01.460
kubaluleke ngaphezu kwayo yonke eminye iminqweno.

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Ngoko ke usenokungabi usakwazi ukuvota, kodwa
usenokufaka inkcaso, nangona ngokuqinisekileyo iza kwaliwa.

19:07.620 --> 19:11.720
Ngoko ke, koku kunciphisa kakhulu idemokhrasi yethu ebonakalayo.

19:11.720 --> 19:18.261
Oko kusizisa ngqo kwingongoma elandelayo. Oku kuphima iimfuno
zamaqela ngokwezomthethosisekelo nako ngumba wemigaqo-siseko.

19:18.261 --> 19:25.641
Igqwetha elaziwayo, uNjingalwazi Alain Griffel, uligxekile oku,
esithi lo myalelo jikelele ukwaphula umgaqo-siseko,

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waphula uMgaqo-siseko weManyano yaseSwitzerland, kuba awunakuthi
iimfuno ezithile ngequbuliso zibaluleke ngaphezu kwezinye.

19:33.868 --> 19:39.380
Ungacacisa ukuba yeyiphi kanye inkxamleko
yale profesa ngesi sigqibo sitsha esibanzi?

19:39.380 --> 19:47.035
ESwitzerland, sinenqaku kumgaqo-siseko malunga
nomgaqo-nkqubo wamandla oluneenqobo ezintlanu.

19:47.035 --> 19:53.691
Andazi nokuba ndingazidwelisa zonke na, kodwa ngokuqinisekileyo
umthombo wamandla okanye ukuveliswa kwamandla kufuneka kwanele,

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kukhuselekile, kungabizi kakhulu kwaye kungonakalisi indalo.

19:57.106 --> 19:59.918
Andikwazi ukukhumbula ingongoma yesihlanu ngoku.

19:59.918 --> 20:03.520
Kodwa kunjalo, onke la manqaku zibaluleke ngokulinganayo.

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Oku kuthetha ukuba kufuneka zifezekiswe ngaxeshanye.

20:06.420 --> 20:13.178
Ngamanye amazwi, ukungangcoliseki kwemeko-bume nokhuseleko
lonikezelo lombane kufuneka ziphathwe ngokulinganayo.

20:13.178 --> 20:18.771
Kwaye ngoku iPalamente ithi ukuveliswa
kombane kubaluleke ngaphezu kolondolozo lwendalo.

20:18.771 --> 20:23.659
Le yipasi yasimahla evumela iiprojekthi
eziyingozi kokusingqongileyo ukuba

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zingajongwanga naphi na. Oko akukho semthethweni.

20:26.986 --> 20:30.752
Asikokuya abantu baseSwitzerland ababekufuna.

20:30.752 --> 20:35.040
Kwaye oko konakalisa indalo yethu, isiseko sokubakho kwethu.

20:35.040 --> 20:39.440
Kwaye oko kunokuba neziphumo ezikhulu nezimbi kakhulu.

20:39.440 --> 20:43.821
Inyaniso yeyokuba, kumashumi eminyaka, abemi
baseSwitzerland baye bahlala beqinisekisa

20:43.821 --> 20:46.139
ukhuseleko lokusingqongileyo kumgaqo-siseko.

20:46.139 --> 20:48.500
Ngoko ke, ngokusebenzayo, ngumthetho.

20:48.500 --> 20:54.095
Kwaye ngoku loo nto iphantse yatshaywa
ngokuphela ngentshukumo nje yepeni evela phezulu.

20:54.095 --> 20:57.888
Yintoni uluvo lwakho ngale nto? Le meko iqale njani?

20:57.888 --> 21:01.919
Kuyamangalisa kakhulu. Nama-mmeli
anyuliweyo nawo bayayazi le nto.

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Ngoko ke yeyiphi imeko yexesha okanye
ingxaki ekhethekileyo enokuba ikhokelele ekubeni

21:07.768 --> 21:11.300
kubekho umthetho ongenalwazi kangaka ngoku?

21:11.300 --> 21:16.261
Ewe, eneneni kwaqala kwekwindla lowama-2022.

21:16.261 --> 21:21.480
Ngaphambili, iPhalamende ibingazange
ijongane nomgaqo-nkqubo wamandla iminyaka.

21:21.480 --> 21:28.242
Kwaye ehlotyeni lowama-2022, kanye xa ubhubhane we-coronavirus
wayesele uphela, iKomishoni yombane yenza

21:28.242 --> 21:35.668
isibhengezo esikhulu kumajelo eendaba sokuba iizikhululo
ezininzi zombane wenyukliya eFrance zazilungiswa.

21:35.668 --> 21:43.271
Kwaye kunokwenzeka ukuba thina eSwitzerland sifumane
ukunqongophala kombane ngequbuliso ebusika obuzayo.

21:43.271 --> 21:50.426
Kwaye ke, kwisithuba seeveki ezintathu, iPhalamende yagqitha
ngokungxama umthetho oyilwayo i-Solar Express yaza yathi, "Ngoku

21:50.426 --> 21:53.885
siza kwakha izikhululo zombane zelanga ezikhulu kwii-Alps."

21:53.885 --> 21:58.816
Ngoko ke sigquma iindawo ezinkulu zeAlps ngeepaneli zelanga.

21:58.816 --> 22:02.179
Kwaye oko kwakusele kungekho mthethweni ngelo xesha.

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Kwaye kwanyibilika kwiveki ezintathu.

22:06.295 --> 22:08.880
Ewe ke, yayiyinto engacwangciswanga kwaphela.

22:08.880 --> 22:18.281
Kwaye ke, ngenxa yokuba bekuchasene nomgaqo-siseko, iPhalamende
bekufanele ukuba ngokuzenzekelayo ibe dliwano-ndlebe nabemi.

22:18.281 --> 22:20.351
Umgaqo-siseko wethu uyayibonelela le nto.

22:20.351 --> 22:25.920
Ukuba wenza umthetho ongahambisaniyo
nomgaqo-siseko, kufuneka uvumele abemi bawuvotele.

22:25.920 --> 22:28.982
Kwaye iPhalamende yasilela nje ukwenza oko.

22:28.982 --> 22:36.920
Emva koko ndaya kwiNkundla yeManyano ndaza ndafaka
isikhalazo, ndisithi oku kufanele kubekwe kubavoti.

22:36.920 --> 22:41.620
Kwaye ke iNkundla yeManyano yathi, ewe,
iPalamente inamandla onke eSwitzerland.

22:41.620 --> 22:50.031
Kwaye kulo moya wobugunya obungaphezulu kwako konke,
kolu luqonda, kwapasiswa umthetho omnye emva komnye.

22:50.031 --> 22:53.226
Kufike umoya okhawulezayo, kwaye ngoku lo myalelo wekoti.

22:53.226 --> 23:01.228
Kwaye iPalamente ayibonakali ikhathala nokuba
umgaqo-siseko uyaphunyezwa okanye akunjalo.

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Baya kwenza nantoni na ukuze kuveliswe umbane.

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Ndingathanda ukungena nzulu kancinci kumonakalo
onokubakho kwindalo nakwimbonakalo yomhlaba owoyikayo.

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Yintoni kanye kanye enokwenzeka ngalo
mthetho, okanye mandithi, woyika ntoni?

23:16.785 --> 23:21.596
Zeziphi iindlela zongenelelo ezithile ezinokwenzeka kwindalo?

23:21.596 --> 23:28.742
Kulungile, okokuqala nokuphambili, kucwangciswe iipaki
zelanga ezinkulu kakhulu kwaye zinokwenzeka nakwiintaba zeAlps.

23:28.742 --> 23:37.170
Enyanisweni, le ibiyindlela yokwethutyana kuphela
eyagqitywa ngexesha lasekwindla lowama-2022 njengenyathelo

23:37.170 --> 23:41.891
lexesha elifutshane lokulungisa ukunqongophala kombane.

23:41.891 --> 23:45.160
Kwaye oko ngoku kufanele ukuba kube
yinto enokwenzeka kwixesha elide.

23:45.160 --> 23:52.738
Oku kuthetha ukuba amadlelo amakhulu asentabeni
anokugutyungelwa zizakhiwo zentsimbi kunye neepaneli zelanga.

23:52.738 --> 23:58.941
Enye into yeyokuba iiturbine zomoya nazo kufuneka
zivunyelwe ngokucacileyo kumahlathi aseSwitzerland.

23:58.941 --> 24:05.484
Oku kuthetha ukuba, ukuze kukhuselwe imozulu, abantu
bangena emahlathini, bacocele umhlaba olingana nebala

24:05.484 --> 24:09.521
le-football ukuze bafake iturbine yomoya, baze bayifake apho ...

24:09.521 --> 24:12.600
Ingaba oko sele kuchaziwe ngokucacileyo
emthethweni, okanye kusafuna ukutolikwa?

24:12.600 --> 24:16.146
Ingaba oko kuthetha ukuba ufuna ukukwenza
kube lula, okanye kuthetha ukuba kunjalo nje?

24:16.146 --> 24:21.739
Ngoko ke, ngokomthetho, iiturbine zomoya
kumahlathi zibotshelelwe kwindawo ethile.

24:21.739 --> 24:29.379
Kwaye oko kukhululo olukhulu, ukuba
asikokuvunywa kweefama zomoya ezihlathini.

24:29.379 --> 24:36.347
Kubalulekile ukukhumbula ukuba ikhantoni yaseZurich, eyona
khantoni inabantu abaninzi eSwitzerland, likhaya labantu

24:36.347 --> 24:43.738
abangaphezu kwesigidi. Ngoku kukho izicwangciso zeeturbine
zomoya ezili-120, apho i-110 kuzo ziza kwakhiwa ehlathini, kuba

24:43.738 --> 24:48.352
akukho ndawo ingaphezulu ngaphandle kwezindulini nasemahlathini.

24:48.352 --> 24:52.060
Kwaye ezi ziimpembelelo zokusingqongileyo ezimbi kakhulu.

24:52.060 --> 24:57.431
Ewe kona, kukwakho nezikhululo zombane wamanzi
abantu abafuna ukuzakha kwiindawo zendalo

24:57.431 --> 25:00.705
ezibalulekileyo kwiphondo, kwaye nako oko kuyenzeka.

25:00.705 --> 25:03.080
Indalo ayisathethi nto.

25:03.080 --> 25:04.972
Kubonakala kungavakali kancinci, akunjalo?

25:04.972 --> 25:09.960
Abantu bafuna ukusindisa imozulu, yiyo loo nto kukho
le ngxokozelo yonke malunga namandla ahlaziyekayo.

25:09.960 --> 25:13.111
Kwangaxeshanye, amahlathi
ayagawulwa kwaye indalo iyatshatyalaliswa.

25:13.111 --> 25:15.166
Isebenza njani loo nto?

25:15.166 --> 25:17.440
Yiloo nto kanye engavakaliyo.

25:17.440 --> 25:25.780
Akunakuba yinto elungileyo ukuba sitshabalalise
amahlathi ngenxa yamandla ekuthiwa ayalondoloza indalo.

25:25.780 --> 25:29.923
Kulula nje, akukho ndawo ingako
eSwitzerland, kufuneka uqonde loo nto.

25:29.923 --> 25:35.384
ISwitzerland inabantu abaninzi kakhulu, ukusuka
entshona ukuya empuma, ukusuka emantla ukuya emazantsi.

25:35.384 --> 25:42.842
Kwaye ukuba ufuna ukwandisa amandla omoya kwinqanaba elikhulu
kakhulu, kufuneka uqaphele ukuba ezi ziiturbine eziphakame

25:42.842 --> 25:47.319
kangangeemitha ezingama-250 kule mihla, ezifuna indawo ethile.

25:47.319 --> 25:51.778
Kwaye eSwitzerland, amahlathi asenzi
ziiziqithi zohlwahlwano lwezinto eziphilayo, kodwa

25:51.778 --> 25:55.312
kwangaxeshanye ziziqithi zokuzonwabisa zabemi.

25:55.312 --> 25:58.583
Zikwanazo nemida yehlathi esikwe kakhulu rhoqo.

25:58.583 --> 26:04.267
Kwakuvuleleke kakhulu ngaphambili, kwaye
kwakukho nemithi emininzi kakhulu esihlahleni.

26:04.267 --> 26:06.587
Namhlanje, amahlathi aye acociwa.

26:06.587 --> 26:10.985
Kwaye ngoku bafuna ukungena ehlathini, bakhe iindlela
ezibanzi ngeemitha ezilishumi, kwaye bacocwe indawo

26:10.985 --> 26:13.943
yomhlaba wehlathi elingangobala lomdlalo webhola ekhatywayo.

26:13.943 --> 26:17.342
Kwaye yiyo kanye ingongoma yethu ephambili.

26:17.342 --> 26:21.140
Akunakutshabalalisa imithi ukuze ukhusele imozulu.

26:21.140 --> 26:24.914
Uvela kwimvelaphi egxeka amandla omoya.

26:24.914 --> 26:30.085
Ngoku, ukuba uthatha inyathelo elinye emva uze uhlolisise
imeko, uloyika ukuba owona monakalo mkhulu uza kwenzeka phi?

26:30.085 --> 26:36.724
Ingaba zezi iiturbine zomoya, izikhululo zombane ezinkulu
zamanzi, okanye mhlawumbi izikhululo zombane zelanga eziseAlps?

26:36.724 --> 26:41.180
Ungayilinganisa na apho ucinga ukuba
isoyikiso esibi kakhulu kwindalo sifumaneka khona?

26:41.180 --> 26:49.457
Ngombane wamanzi, ngokuqinisekileyo
ufumana inzuzo eninzi ngotyalo-mali oluncinci.

26:49.457 --> 26:52.787
Kukho umonakalo nalapho, yinto eqinisekileyo leyo.

26:52.787 --> 27:02.826
Kodwa ngeenkqubo zamandla elanga, umntu angathi
ngenene iindawo ezinkulu zeAlps ziya kwakhiwa phezu kwazo.

27:02.826 --> 27:08.688
Kum, oku kuyonakalisa kakhulu kuba
iSwitzerland iphumelela ngemihlaba yayo.

27:08.688 --> 27:15.586
Imbonakalo yomhlaba ibaluleke
kakhulu kwilizwe lethu – ngokwembali.

27:15.586 --> 27:24.271
Sineehotele ezininzi ezintle kakhulu ezakhiwe
kwiindawo ezinembonakalo emangalisayo yeentaba zeAlps.

27:24.271 --> 27:27.456
Kwaye kanye la maAlps ngawona aza kuthi ngoku akhiwe phezu kwawo.

27:27.456 --> 27:30.802
Oko kuthetha ukuba ikwanentsingiselo yembali.

27:30.802 --> 27:37.618
Ewe, into yesibini ziihlathi, apho ndibona olu lonakalo.

27:37.618 --> 27:40.954
Kuyathakazelisa, into oyithethayo
ngemimandla yezokhenketho, malunga neeAlps.

27:40.954 --> 27:43.704
Ikhantoni yaseGraubünden ifuna ukuba yinkokeli kule ndawo.

27:43.704 --> 27:45.663
Ndivuya ukuthatha elo nqaku.

27:45.663 --> 27:52.040
Bafuna ngenene ukuqhubela phambili baze babe neendawo ezithile,
ndicinga ukuba zingama-30, kwaye – ndilungise ukuba ndiphazama

27:52.040 --> 27:58.573
– ngaphezu kwamashumi amabini anesine ngokuqinisekileyo ziye
zatshatyalaliswa kwiindawo eziphambili, kwiithambeka leentaba.

27:58.573 --> 28:02.792
Ngoko ke, ngaphandle kweSt. Moritz, ndicinga ukuba uza
kubona ezi turbines zomoya zinkulu kakhulu phambi kwazo

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zonke iindawo eziphambili zokhenketho kwixesha elizayo.

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Uyivavanya njani le nto ngokubhekiselele
kubaluleko lukhenketho kunye noqoqosho lwaseSwitzerland?

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Kanye, iiturbine zomoya zinkulu kakhulu, zikwafuna indawo.

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Kufuneka zakhiwe kwiindawo eziveleleyo apho kunomoya.

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Kwaye xa urhulumente womdibaniso uyalela ikhantoni
yaseGraubünden, enye yezona ndawo zokhenketho zidumileyo

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ehlabathini, ukuba ifake iiturbine zomoya ezili-100,
akunakuphepheka ukuba ezi turbine zomoya ziya kwakhiwa

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eDavos, eLenzerheide, eArosa, kufutshane neSwiss National Park –
ngamanye amazwi, kuzo zonke iindawo zokhenketho ezidumileyo.

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Kwaye njengoko benditshilo, ngokwembali oku kubaluleke kakhulu
kuba ukhenketho neentaba i-Alps ziyinxalenye yesazisi sethu.

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Ekupheleni kwenkulungwane yeshumi
elinesithoba, iSwitzerland yakhula kakhulu yaza yaba

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yenye yeelizwe ezizizityebi kakhulu ehlabathini.

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Kwaye kungenxa kanye yala mazwe anomtsalane abantu
abaninzi abavela phesheya beze kuthi ukuze bawancome.

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Kwaye mna ngokwam ndikufumana kulusizi kakhulu ukuba
iiAlps azisaxatyiswanga, kwaye ndicinga ukuba olu

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luhlengahlengiso olubi kakhulu oluvela kwiPalamente.

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Ngoku, zonke ezi myalelo, lo myalelo jikelele, ezi zindululo
zahlukeneyo nezicacileyo ozikhankanyileyo, iSolarexpress,

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iWindexpress, zikwimeko yolu tshintsho lwamandla kuthiwa lukhona.

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Kukho umnqweno wokushiya amafutha efosili, kodwa kwangaxeshanye
kukho ukuthandabuza ngamandla enyukliya, kwaye akukho

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zikhululo zombane zenyukliya zintsha ezakhiwayo eSwitzerland
ngoku – kukho uhlobo lokwalelwa kobuchwepheshe olusebenzayo.

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IGermany sele izisusile kancinci kancinci, kodwa
kwezinye iindawo zehlabathi, imeko yahluke kakhulu.

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Yeyiphi imbono yakho esisiseko ngale tshintsho lamandla?

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Ngaba oko kuyimfuneko? Ngaba urhulumente kufuneka atyhalele oko?

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Ingaba uqoqosho lungakwazi ukwenza loo nto?
Ingaba lungazilawula? Yintoni uluvo lwakho ngale nto?

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Utshintsho lwamandla ngumba onzima kakhulu ngokwawo.

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Into endiyibona ngokucacileyo yeyokuba amafutha efosili abangela
utshintsho lwemozulu, kwaye utshintsho lwemozulu lunobungozi.

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Kufuneka sifumane izisombululo.

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Ingxaki yindlela abasopolitiki abajongana ngayo nale ngxaki.

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Ubuze abemi, nifuna na ukuyiyeka
kancinci kancinci amandla enyukliya?

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Abemi bathe ewe, nto leyo ingothusiyo.

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Abemi baye babuzwa, nifuna na
ukuphelisa amafutha efosili ngokuthe ngcembe?

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Abemi bathe ewe.

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Kuzo zombini iivoti, akukho mntu wachaza ukuba oku kuza kuthetha
ntoni, kuza kubiza malini, okanye kuza kusebenza njani kanye

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kanye. Endaweni yoko, kwamiselwa iinjongo, uluntu lwazamkela,
kwaza ke kwavela iziphumo. Abantu baphazamiseka ngokuba

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ayisebenzi, ngokuba uluntu aluyamkeli, ngokuba
kwakukho umonakalo kwindalo, ngokuba yayisiba

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nexabiso eliphezulu, kwaye yayidala ukungaqiniseki.

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Ndithatha oku njengokuziphatha okungekho sikweni.

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Ndingakhetha kakhulu ukubona uluntu luxelelwa inyaniso kwaye
luxelelwa ukuba zikho iindlela ezintathu zokuvelisa umbane.

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Ngeepaneli zelanga eziphahleni, oko kufuna oku noku.

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Kwizikhululo zombane ezisebenzisa
igesi, oko kuthetha oku nokuya kwimozulu.

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Kwiizikhululo zombane zenukliya, oko kuthetha oku noku
malunga nenkunkuma, ukugcinwa kwayo, nokufunyanwa kwe-uranium.

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Ngoko ke uyazi ukuba uthetha ngantoni.

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Kodwa ngoku wena uzibekela nje iinjongo ezivakala
zilungile, uze ucinge ngendlela yokuziphumeza kamva.

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Kwaye ndinamathandabuzo anzulu ngaloo nto.

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Luhlobo lomgaqo-nkqubo ongenakwenzeka kwaye ongenanyaniso
ngokwenene, ukuba ndingawushwankathela ngolo hlobo.

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Xa sijonga abaxhasi balo myalelo jikelele, kuvela
nombuzo wokuba ngubani kanye kanye obandakanyekileyo.

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Kwaye njengomhloli ongathathi cala, ndimangalisiwe kancinci.

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Oku kusuka kwabaphambili ukuya kwabamva, ukusuka
kwiinkosi zombane nemibutho yorhwebo enamandla ukuya kwiGreen

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Party neminye imibutho yokusingqongileyo, hayi eyakho.

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Kwenzeka njani ukuba iimbangi ezininzi
zezopolitiko zisebenzisane ngequbuliso? Oku kusixelela ntoni?

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Ngoko ke ingxaki kukuba abadlali abaninzi abaxhasa ngoku
ummiselo jikelele bakwimeko efanayo kwi-Climate Alliance.

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Oku kuthetha ukuba kwi-Climate Alliance, iqela elimela
umbane welanga likwimeko efanayo nemibutho yokusingqongileyo.

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Kwaye oko, ewe kona, yinto
echaseneyo xa kuziwa kulondolozo lwendalo.

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Xa kuziwa ekukhuseleni imozulu,
bobabini ngokuqinisekileyo bayavumelana.

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Kukho iingxabano xa kuziwa kulondolozo lwendalo.

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Kwaye ndiqaphela ukuba amaxesha amaninzi kusilela isigqibo
esiqinileyo, abantu ke bathi, ewe, thina njengemibutho

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yokusingqongileyo asisekelwanga nje kukhuseleko lwemozulu,
kodwa sikwaxhasa ngokungaguquguqukiyo ulondolozo lwendalo.

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Kwaye kulapho kufuneka kucace gca, kunye nesibindi sokujongana
neenkosi zombane kwaye sithi, ewe, sobabini

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siyayixhasa inkcamiseko yokukhusela imozulu, kodwa xa kuziwa
kulondolozo lwendalo, kulapho ubuhlobo buphela khona.

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Kwaye oko kufuna isibindi, esingabonakaliyo.

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Ngoko ke ngoku, ngomyalelo kaMantel, omabini la macala akwimeko
enye: imibutho yokusingqongileyo, mhlawumbi isiluma amazinyo,

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kunye noosozigidigidi bombane, abavuyiswe kakhulu kuba
belindele inkxaso-mali eza kuvela ukuba bavunyelwe

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ukwakha kuyo yonke indawo, nkqu naphandle ngokupheleleyo.

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Iphephandaba i-Neue Zürcher Zeitung lipapashe
isihloko esikunxulumene nawe esithi,

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"Umgcini wemihlaba Albert Rösti kufuneka amxwayele."

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UAlbert Rösti nguMcebisi weFederal onoxanduva lwale fayile.

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Uceba ukubacenga njani abavoti?

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Ireferendamu ke iza kubanjwa ngoJuni walo nyaka.

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Lelo cwangciso-maxesha licinezeleke kakhulu.

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Loo nto isenokuba ikhethwe ngabom.

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Ndikholelwa ukuba uluntu alunayo iinkcukacha malunga nokuba
kungathetha ntoni ukuba lo myalelo jikelele

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ungamkelwa, kunye neenjongo zawo, ezi
zithintelo kunye nezi ngxaki zingasonjululwanga.

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Kwaye ndikholelwa ukuba uluntu kufuneka
lwaziswe ngendlela enyanisekileyo ngokupheleleyo.

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Kuthetha ntoni ukwakha iturbine yomoya?
Kuthetha ntoni ukwakha enye ehlathini?

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Kuthetha ukuthini ukwakha isikhululo samandla elanga
e-Alps esilingana neebala zebhola ekhatywayo ezili-100?

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Kwenzeka ntoni ebusika xa kukho ikhephu?

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Kwaye ndikholelwa ukuba kufuneka nje
usondele ebantwini ngeemifanekiso nolwazi, kwaye

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wenze ulwazi kumajelo ahlukeneyo amaninzi.

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Kwaye ngokuqinisekileyo yiyo leyo indlela yokuqinisekisa
uluntu ukuba la ngawona njongo sivotela kuwo kunye neziphumo.

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Ukongeza kule vothi yerferendamu, leyo, njengoko benditshilo,
icwangciselwe uJuni, usandula kwakhona ukwazisa ngeziphakamiso

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ezimbini ezitsha nezithandwayo ezihamba ngendlela efanayo.

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Ungakuchaza ngokufutshane ukuba oku kuquka ntoni?

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Kumbutho wethu, iFreie Landschaft Schweiz (iMvelo yasimahla
yaseSwitzerland), ulondolozo lwendalo kunye nentando

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yesininzi ethe ngqo ngemiba emibini esisondeleyo
ezintliziyweni zethu kwaye siyibona ibaluleke ngokukodwa.

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Inkululeko yobuzwe kunye nokulondolozwa kwendalo
ngoku zombini zisongelwa sesi sigqibo sikubanzi.

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Kodwa sesiyabona ePalamente ukuba kude nezimvo eziphambene
nangakumbi ezibekwa phambili zokuphelisa

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iireferendamu ngokwazo emthethweni, ukuze
kuqhubekwe nokuthintela ukulondolozwa kwendalo.

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Kwaye kulapho ke esifuna ukuthatha amanyathelo okuphikisa khona.

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Siye sasungula amaphulo amabini adumileyo: iPhulo
loKhuselo lweHlathi kunye nePhulo loKhuselo loLuntu.

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I-Forest Protection Initiative ifuna ukuba
iiturbine zomoya zingaphindi zivunyelwe

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emahlathini nakwiindawo ezingaphandle kwawo.

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Kwaye iphulo lokukhusela uluntu lifuna ukuba iiturbine zomoya,
ukuba zakhiwa, zihlale zifuna imvume yabantu abachaphazelekayo.

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Kwaye ingqokelela yophawu ngoku iqhuba.

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Kwaye kufuneka siqokelele iisayini
ezisemthethweni ezili-100,000 phambi kukaJulayi 2025.

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Ngoku sinomdla wokubona ukuba uza kuphumelela na.

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Kwaye ke ngokuqinisekileyo kuza
kubakho amaphulo eereferendamu alandelayo.

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Yinto enye ekufuneka sijonge phambili
kuyo. Mhlawumbi ngumbuzo wobuqu wokugqibela.

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Basenabancinci kwaye sele bezinikele kakhulu kule
micimbi yokulondolozwa kokusingqongileyo kunye nemihlaba.

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Uqale wangena njani kule projekthi?

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Oko kusenokuba yinto yosapho kancinci.

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Umama sele ezibandakanye kakhulu okanye
ukhe wadibana nokulondolozwa kwemihlaba.

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Wakhulela ngeminyaka yoo-1970 eWangen am Zürichsee
kwicantoni yaseSchwyz, apho umgwaqo omkhulu i-A3

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wakhiwa wawela kanye embindini welali ngeminyaka yoo-1970.

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Kwiminyaka yoo-1980, wafudukela
kwikanton yaseZurich, eBonstetten.

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Apho, babefuna ukwakha umgwaqo omkhulu i-A4
bedlula kwimihlaba evulekileyo yasemaphandleni.

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Kwaye ngeminyaka yoo-1990, umama wam wafudukela
notata wam eGrenchen, kwicantoni yaseSolothurn.

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Apho, ngamabona-ndenzile, bafuna ukwakha umgwaqo
omkhulu i-A5 bedlula kwimihlaba evulekileyo yasemaphandleni.

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Kwaye olu zinikelo lwabazali bam bobabini lwandichaphazela nam.

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Ndihlala kwindawo entle kakhulu
eGrenchen, phakathi kweJura neSwiss Plateau.

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Ungabona neeAlps, ngoko ke ngokwenene zonke
iintlobo ezintathu eziphambili zemihlaba yaseSwitzerland.

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Kwaye ke ndisoloko ndicinga ndithi,
ndizakube ndineminyaka engama-54 kuphela ngo-2050.

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Ndingathanda ukushiya abantwana bam
kwimeko yomhlaba exabisekileyo ngokwendalo.

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Kwaye ukulondoloza nokugcina lo mmandla kangangoko
kunokwenzeka, ngendlela efanayo esinjalo ngayo namhlanje.

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Enkosi kakhulu. Sikunqwenelela impumelelo
yonke kulo msebenzi mkhulu, osele ujonge ikamva.

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Enkosi ngokuba nathi kule nkqubo. Elias Vogt, enkosi.

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Kwaye kuni, babukeli abathandekayo,
ndiyanibulela ngokunikela ingqalelo yenu.

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Ndinqwenela ukunibona kwakhona kwiveki ezayo xa sithi,
namkelekile kwinkqubo yencoko yezopolitiko kwi-HOCH2.TV.