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UDkt. Reiner Füllmich ungummeli waseJalimane
onelayisensi yokusebenza eJalimane nase-United States.

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Ngenxa yokweba imali eningi okubekwe kuye maqondana nepulatifomu
yokubika iziphazamiso ye-"Corona Committee",

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waba sematheni ezindabeni futhi – ngaphansi
kwezimo ezingabazekayo – waboshwa wabekwa ejele.

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Ngesikhathi esifanayo, iziteshi ezahlukene zezindaba zidwebe
isithombe esihlukile ngokuphelele saleli cala,

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esiphinde sikhanyise ngokuthakazelisayo abaholi
abangase babe ngabaphethe izintambo ngemuva kwezibuko.

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Njengombono ophikisanayo nenguqulo
esemthethweni, i-Kla.TV isakaza lo mqulu olandelayo.

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Kubonakala sengathi ummeli waseJalimane uReiner
Füllmich, owabona ubugebengu be-Covid

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bokuphatha kabi abantu kusukela ngo-2020, ukhohlisiwe.

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Füllmich wahola iphrojekthi eyaziwa ngokuthi iNuremberg Yesibili
futhi wayengomunye wabasunguli beKomidi Lokuphenya iCorona.

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Ikhomithi yakhe yabonisana cishe nososayensi
abangama-150 nochwepheshe abavela emhlabeni wonke, kanye

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nabasebenzi abake basebenza eNhlanganweni Yezempilo Yomhlaba.

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Futhi okutholakele kwabo kwabonisa ukuthi izinyathelo ze-Covid
kwakuyizinyathelo zokuqala ohlelweni lokubhubhisa umnotho wendawo

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ngenhloso yokwenza abantu bancike ezintanjeni zokuhlinzeka
zomhlaba wonke, nokuthi zazihloselwe

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ukunciphisa inani labantu nokufaka uhulumeni womhlaba
wonke ngaphansi kobuholi beZizwe Ezihlangene.

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Ikomidi yeCorona yamukela iminikelo eminingi
eyayikholelwa ukuthi ayiphephile, njengoba ama-akhawunti

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asebhange ayesanda kuthathwa nguhulumeni ababambe iqhaza.

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Igolide elifanele izigidi eziyisodwa
zama-euro lathengwa futhi lagcinwa.

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Ukuze baxhase le misebenzi, bobabili uReiner Füllmich
noViviane Fischer bathathe izikweletu ezinesibambiso.

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uReiner Füllmich ngomhlaka 2 Februwari 2024:
"Ngesikhathi imali ku-akhawunti yethu yasebhange yayisengozini

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enkulu, sanquma ukuthatha isinyathelo ngokushesha."

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Thina sobabili, yena nami, sakhipha imali kule
akhawunti ukuze siyigcine futhi siyivikele

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ekuthathweni okunjalo, ukuze siqhubeke nomsebenzi wethu.

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Ngoba uma i-akhawunti yethu, i-akhawunti yethu
yasebhange, yayibanjwe, besingasakwazi

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ukukhokhela abahumushi, abasebenzi be-IT, abaphathi, njll.

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Imali mboleko kaReiner yayingu-€700,000 futhi kwakufanele
ibuyiselwe ngemali etholwe ekuthengisweni kwendlu yakhe.

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Konke lokhu kwabhalwa phansi futhi kwagunyazwa yikomidi.

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Amalungu eKomidi le-Corona ahlangana
nenkampani yezomthetho ngo-Agasti 2022 futhi afaka

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isimangalo sobugebengu ngokumelene noFüllmich.

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Amalungu ekhomithi, uJustus Hoffmann, uMarcel Templin noAntonia
Fischer, bathi uFüllmich waphanga ama-euro ayizinkulungwane

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ezingama-700,000, imali ayeyibolekile ngokusemthethweni.

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Bathi wayengumuntu odlayo abantu abangamaJuda
futhi wayenethuba lokuphawula ngaphambi kokuba

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icala lobugebengu liqale, futhi ngeke bamangalela.

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Kwenziwe izimemezelo zokuboshwa ezimbili ngaye, eyodwa
eJalimane nenye e-EU, ngaphandle kolwazi lukaReiner.

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Ngaphandle kwesimemezelo sokuboshwa samazwe ngamazwe,
iziphathimandla zaseJalimane nezaseMexico zamphunga

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ngokungekho emthethweni uFüllmich e-Embasi yaseJalimane eMexico.

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Wabe-ke edluliselwa eSikhumulweni Sezindiza
saseFrankfurt, lapho aboshwa khona waboshwa.

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Ochwepheshe bezomthetho bamazwe ngamazwe bachaza
ukuboshwa kwakhe njengokuthunjwa okungekho emthethweni.

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Ngokwemigomo yebhizinisi ebhalwe phansi, imboleko
kaFüllmich yayizokhokhwa ngemva kokuthengiswa kwempahla yakhe.

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Nokho, laba bantu abafaka icala
kuFüllmich baphazamisa lesi sivumelwano.

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Izinkontileka zazibeka ukuthi inzuzo evela
empahleni kaFüllmich idluliselwe ku-akhawunti

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kaFüllmich ukuze akwazi ukukhokha imboleko.

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Nokho, unotari, oqokwe njengongathathi hlangothi
futhi ozimele, wayala abathengi ukuthi

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badlulise ama-€1,158,000 ku-akhawunti kaMarcel Templin.

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Lokhu kwenze kwaba okungenzeki ukuthi uReiner akhokhe isikweletu.

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Izikweletu zavunyelwana ngendlela
ecacile ezinkontilekeni ezibhaliwe.

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Akuzange kube nemfihlo futhi inkampani yayihlale
isaziswa ngazo zonke izikhathi mayelana nezikweletu.

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Ubufakazi obuqinisekisa lokhu bulethwe
ngokusemthethweni enkantolo, eyanquma ukubunganaki

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futhi yavimba umvikeli ukuthi angasho lutho ngakho.

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Ubufakazi bubonisa ukuthi uHoffmann, uTemplin
kanye nomnotari bathole ukufinyelela ngokungekho

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emthethweni emalini etholwe ezimpahleni zikaFüllmich.

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Hhayi nje ukuthi inkantolo yaphusha ubufakazi obu, kodwa futhi
yabiza labo bantu abafanayo njengofakazi abamele uFüllmich.

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Isitatimende sesimangalo sithi uFüllmich uphinde wenza icala
lobugebengu ngokuthola amabhara egolide

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ngaphandle kwemvume yababanini besabelo, wafihla
ukuba khona kwawo futhi wazithathela yena uqobo.

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Nokho, ukuthengwa kwamabhara egolide nakho kubhalwe phansi.

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Basesiboshweni futhi bangabukwa kuphela
ngemvume kaReiner Füllmich noViviane Fischer.

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Lokhu kuyabonakala kumadokhumenti enkampani
angakaze athunyelwe ehhovisi likamangaleli womphakathi.

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Nokho, lezi zethulwe ngumvikeli kodwa inkantolo ayizihloniphi.

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Ngaphezu kwalokho, nakuba inkantolo yavalela
ama-akhawunti kaFüllmich, ayizange yavalela

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ama-€1,158,000 ku-akhawunti kaMarcel Templin.

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Dkt. Christof Miseré, ngiyajabula kakhulu ukuhlangana nawe.

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Sibe nosuku olujabulisayo kakhulu lwezingxoxo namuhla.

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Ungangitshela kafushane ukuthi ungakufingqa kanjani, ngoba
ngicabanga ukuthi kuyisigameko esibalulekile emlandweni.

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Yebo, idokhumenti eyembulwe kimi muva nje ikhombisa ukuthi uMnu.
Füllmich ubebhekwe isikhathi eside nokuthi sekwenziwe

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imizamo yokusebenzisa izakhiwo ezahlukene ukuze aqinisekise
ukuthi akasafaneleki ukhethwe eRiphabhulikhi Yezwe LaseJalimane.

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Kwenziwa imizamo noHhovisi Lomtshutshisi Womphakathi nokunye –
kwathi-ke kwaqalwa ngelinye lezinsizakalo, njengeHhovisi

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Lezokuphenya Ubugebengu Lwefederal, ukuzama
ukuqasha abantu abasendaweni yakhe, ukuqoqa ulwazi,

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futhi ekugcineni ukumangalela nokumenza athole icala.

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Lokho kwakuhleliwe. Kwakusele
sekucabangwe cishe ngenothi elalibhalwe ngo-2021.

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Ungasho kanjalo. Kukhona imininingwane yokuthi
lokhu kwakuhlelwe kusengaphambili, futhi ngikholwa

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ukuthi kwakungu-21 Agasti 2021, uma ngikhumbula kahle...

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Idokhumenti equkethe idatha
ehlukahlukene, impela, futhi isesikhathini.

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Ngakho-ke imibiko nayo ibikwe lapho, kuhlanganise
nolwazi olujwayelekile ngomuntu, futhi kwathiwa

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ngo-2021 kwakudingeka ukuthi asuswe ngandlela thile.

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Futhi ngokuyisisekelo ukususa iqiniso lokuthi akasafaneleki
esikhundleni sezepolitiki, okusho ukuthi

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ekugcineni isigwebo esiqinile esimvimba ukuthi
angaphinde akhethwe eRiphabhulikhi Yezwe LaseJalimane.

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Bese bathi uma ukwenza lokhu –
kunesigaba ngalokho – ngingakufundela kamuva.

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Uma ungakwazi ukwenza izinto ngokuhambisana nomthetho,
kufanele wakhe uhlaka bese ulusebenzisa nabalingani onabo.

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UDkt. Füllmich uqobo uphendule namuhla ezinsolweni
zommeli womphakathi ngokufaka isikhalazo ngummeli womphakathi.

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Lokho konke kumayelana nani?

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Ummeli Katja Wörmer: Inhloso ithi ngokusobala kukhona idokhumenti
evela eHhovisi Lokuvikela uMthethosisekelo

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noma eHhovisi Lomphoyisa Wezobugebengu
Lwefederal ebonisa ukuthi uDkt. Füllmich wayebhekwa.

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Wayebhekwe yiHhovisi Lokuvikela
uMthethosisekelo okungenani kusukela ngo-Agasti 2021.

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Kwacwangciswa izinyathelo zokuthi angabhekwa kanjani nokuthi
ngaluphi uhlobo, futhi kwagxilwa ngokucophelela ekubeni aqaphele

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ngqo lokho ayekwenza; ukusungulwa kweKomidi yeCorona, eyayivele
isebenza ngaphambilini, ikakhulukazi ngokumelene neDeutsche Bank

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nasezindabeni ezibizwa ngokuthi "amacala ezakhiwo ezingezinhle".

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Kwabe sekwakhiwa uhlelo olunemininingwane yokuthi kuqhubekwe
kanjani, isibonelo, ukuvimba ukuthi angaze abambe isikhundla

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sezepolitiki, ukuqinisekisa ukuthi kuzovulwa uphenyo
lobugebengu ngaye, nokuthi kuzofakwa izinsolo zobugebengu ngaye

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ezisekelwe ezigamekweni ezingase zakhiwe noma zakhiwe ngenhloso.

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Ngakho-ke leli dossier empeleni libonisa ukuthi kwakuhlelwe
okuthile lapha ngemuva kwezithunzi nabacwaningi abangaphansi

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kwezembatho nabameli abangaphansi kwezembatho,
okungase kusetshenziswe kamuva ukumangalela uDkt.

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Füllmich icala lobugebengu esikhathini esizayo.

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UNksz. Fischer, ummeli, kuthiwa muva nje evuma
enkantolo ukuthi imali mboleko ephikisanwayo

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yanikezwa ngenhloso yokuvikela iminikelo ekuthathweni.

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Akukhiphi emthethweni ingxenye enkulu yesimangalo?

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Kunjalo. Eqinisweni, kube nokuvalwa kwezibalo
okuphindaphindiwe kusukela ehlobo lika-2020.

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Ama-akhawunti e-"Doctors for Information" avalwe, futhi
kwakunezindaba ezithi ama-akhawunti enhlangano i-MWGFD

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abebandisiwe. Ngakho-ke kwaziwa ukuthi kwakunezikhathi eziningi
lapho ama-akhawunti avalwa khona esigcawini sabagxeki

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be-coronavirus kanye nezinhlangano ezinikeza ulwazi, nokuthi
neminikelo ingabanda futhi ikhishwe enhlosweni yayo yangempela.

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Futhi ngenxa yalokhu, iklayenti laza nombono wokuthi, ngakolunye
uhlangothi, umuntu angathenga igolide ukuze akhiphe imali

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kuma-akhawunti, noma angakhetha iminikelo noma ezinye izindlela
zokugcina inani, njengokuyigcina empahleni yakhe, ukuze avikele

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le mali futhi ayikhiphe kuma-akhawunti asebhange, ngokuthi.

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UMnu. Füllmich kwadingeka ahlale
ejele kuze kube sekupheleni kwenkantolo.

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Ngabe kungenzeka ukufinyelela esiphethweni
ngomphumela wokwahlulelwa kuleli sinqumo senkantolo?

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Ngokombono wami, lokhu akusona isimo esinjalo
ngempela, ngoba isizathu sokuboshwa lapha yingozi yokubaleka.

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UMnu. Füllmich usebanjweni, phakathi kwezinye izinto, ngoba
wayechithe izinyanga eziyisithupha eMexico ngaphambilini.

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Umkami usaseMexico, futhi
kucatshangwa ukuthi naye angabuyela lapho.

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Futhi unoxhumano nabanye abantu phesheya.

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Wayenepulazi eCalifornia, e-United States.

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Okubaluleke kakhulu lapha ukuqeda izinqubo
zobugebengu, kodwa ngokombono wami, umphumela

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wezinqubo zobugebengu awuhlangene nhlobo nalokhu.

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Ikakhulukazi manje, ngokubheka izenzakalo zanamuhla, kuyacaca
ukuthi kukhona ifayela elivela eHhovisi Lokuvikela

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uMthethosisekelo, elingase libe yimbangela yophenyo lobugebengu,
futhi lapho kungase kube khona – noma mhlawumbe –

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ukubambisana phakathi kweHhovisi Lomtshutshisi
Womphakathi Wendawo neHhovisi Lokuvikela uMthethosisekelo.

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Lezi zinsolo okwamanje ziyaphenywa.
