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Dr. Pfeil, mun ji cewa an matsa wa ƙasashe lamba su
amince da sabon IHR, Wato Ka'idojin Lafiya na Duniya.

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Me za ka ce game da wannan? Shin akwai wata hujja ko shaida?

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To, ban da wata hujja mai tabbas, amma matar da ta
ba da rahoton wannan ta yi aƙalla halartar taron

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manema labarai na lauyoyinmu a kan layi a Geneva.

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Ita lauya matashiya ce mai sahihanci
sosai, mai himma, daga Afirka ta Kudu.

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Kuma wata lauya 'yar Holland ta kasance a Geneva, kuma ita
ma ta tabbatar mini cewa an yi amfani da matsin lamba,

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wato an yi barazanar takunkumi da sauran matakai daban-daban.

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Shin akwai jerin yadda kowace ƙasa ta
yi zaɓe, ko yaya aka gudanar da wannan?

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Eh, ya kasance tsari mai matuƙar ban mamaki, dangane da zaɓen.

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A gaskiya dai an ce kawai: Shin kowa
ya riga ya samu sigar ƙarshe yanzu?

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Sigar ƙarshe ta IGV, kamar yadda aka ce an amince
da ita, a zahiri ya kamata ta kasance a shirye

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watanni huɗu kafin, bisa ga Sashe na 55, sakin layi na 2.

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Sa'an nan shugaban taron ya ce kawai, ya kalle-kalle
na ɗan lokaci sannan ya ce: Ban ga wata ƙin yarda ba.

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Don haka: ban ga wata ƙin yarda anan ba. Kuma haka kawai.

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Kuma daga baya an ruwaito cewa jihohi 37 kawai ne suka
bayyana amincewarsu a fili, kuma akwai jerin waɗannan jihohi 37.

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To, an gudanar da kada kuri'a ne ta hanyar nuna hannaye?

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A'a, duk da haka, za ka iya ganin a rikodin bidiyo, na sake
kallo, ba za ka ga wasu alamomin hannu ba, ko da yake akwai

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ƙa'ida ta tsari ga Majalisar Lafiya ta Duniya, a
zaman gaba ɗaya. Dokar 72, wadda ta ce ko dai ta hanyar

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ɗaga hannu ko, idan an nema, ta hanyar ƙidayar murya.

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Ba ɗayan waɗannan abubuwa biyu ya faru ba.
Wannan yana nufin cewa a nan ma akwai babban tambaya

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ko an gudanar da zaɓen gaba ɗaya bisa ƙa'idoji.

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A ganinmu, tabbas ya saba wa dokar kasa da kasa.

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OK, menene ma'anar waɗannan ƙa'idojin kiwon lafiya da aka
sabunta, misali, idan aka ayyana annobar mura ta tsuntsaye?

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Eh, kamar dai ana riga ana
shiryawa cutar mura ta tsuntsaye, a ce.

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Wannan na nufin, misali, cewa tun da IGV yanzu ke ba da
matuƙar muhimmanci ga abubuwan kiwon lafiya da ake kira masu

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dacewa, ana iya shirya alluran rigakafi cikin sauri sosai.

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Hakanan akwai tsarin jeri na amfani na
gaggawa, kuma tun daga shekarar 2022.

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Kuma abin ban sha'awa shi ne cewa kamfanonin
magunguna sun riga sun iya yin nema don wasu kayayyaki.

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Hakanan akwai ƙwararru masu zaman kansu a
hukumance waɗanda ake sa ran za su kimanta wannan.

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Amma abin mamaki shi ne cewa WHO tana da hakkin yanke
shawara ko za ta wallafa waɗannan rahotannin ko a'a.

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Wannan yana nufin cewa, a ƙarshe, zan iya samun wani samfur da a
fili ba a ba da shawarar sa ba saboda manyan damuwar tsaro ko

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saboda ba shi da tasiri, ko duka biyun, kuma WHO cikin girman
kai ta yanke shawarar ba da shawarar sa ga ƙasashe duk da haka,

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misali a matsayin wani ɓangare na shirin tilastawa na rigakafi.

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To, wannan wani babban almundahana ne da ba a taɓa gani ba.

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Waɗanne kuke gani, ko waɗanne canje-canje a cikin
Ka'idojin Lafiya na Duniya kuke ɗauka su ne mafi jawo cece-kuce?

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Eh, na ambaci wani batu mai jayayya, wato wannan sabon,
bayyanannen mayar da hankali kan magunguna da

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alluran rigakafi, wanda ake kiran su da "kayayyakin
kiwon lafiya masu dacewa" a maganar yaɗa ƙarya.

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Tabbas, dole ne mu yi la'akari da duk wannan a cikin mahallin
dogaro sosai na WHO ga masu fafutukar kamfanonin magunguna.

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Da farko, akwai matsalar rikicin sha'awa, wato iko daga waje.

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Sa'an nan, kamar yadda muka sani
yanzu, WHO na da tarin kwamitocin kwararru.

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Ana buƙatar waɗannan kwamitocin su yi
bayani game da rikice-rikicen sha'awa, amma

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waɗannan bayanan ma suna kasancewa sirri.

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Kuma mun kuma san cewa a zahiri akwai zagayowar
mutane marasa tsayayyen tsari tsakanin WHO da

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ƙungiyoyin da suka shafi magunguna da na masu zaman kansu.

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Wato, hakan yana da matuƙar matsala.

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Wani babban matsala shi ne cewa yanzu mun riga mun tabbatar a
fili yaki da abin da ake kira "karya bayanai" da "disinformation"

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a cikin IHR, wanda ke nufin cewa wani na ikirarin mallakar
bayanai guda ɗaya, mallakar gaskiya guda ɗaya, abin da a fili

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yake keta Sashe na 5 na Dokar Asali, wato 'yancin
faɗar albarkacin baki, 'yancin samun bayanai, 'yancin

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kafofin watsa labarai, kuma sama da komai, 'yancin ilimi.

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Sannan muna da yiwuwar ƙaruwa, inda ba wai za a iya ayyana
gaggawar lafiya ba kawai, wadda ake kira ƙarya, har ma da wani

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sabon mataki, wato abin da ake kira gaggawar annoba, inda ake
tsoron za mu kuma fuskanci matakai mafi tsauri,

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ƙuntatawa mafi tsauri kuma watakila masu
ɗorewa kan hakkokin asali, wato take hakkokin asali.

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Wanne daga cikin abubuwan da ka ambata yanzu
kake ganin ya fi muhimmanci a ja hankalin jama'a?

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A gaskiya haɗin komai ne.

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Don haka, a ƙarshe, waɗannan kayayyakin da watakila ba a gwada ba
suna haifar da barazana mai tsanani ga rai da jiki. Bugu da

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ƙari, bincike da ci gaba, samarwa, tallafi na kuɗi da
rarrabawa na waɗannan kayayyakin yanzu za su sami ƙarin kuɗaɗe.

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An hanzarta mayar da waɗannan ƙa'idodi daga
yarjejeniyar annoba da aka dakatar na ɗan lokaci zuwa IGV.

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Kuma sannan, ta hanyar tallata bincike kan waɗannan kayayyaki,
muna da matsala – wato ba za mu iya raba shi da abin da ake kira

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binciken wasan aikin kwayoyin ba, wanda kayan aiki ne mai matukar
haɗari kuma a ƙarshe zai iya kaiwa ga abin da muka riga mun

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fuskanta da Covid-19, wato waɗannan na iya zama ƙwayoyin cuta na
dakin gwaje-gwaje waɗanda daga baya, ko da yaushe ta bazata –

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saboda matakan tsaro ba za su taɓa isa ba – su
fita daga dakin gwaje-gwaje sannan su haifar da

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barkewar cutar da waɗannan IGVs ke nufin yakar ta.

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Kuma, tabbas, wannan wani abin mamaki ne gaba ɗaya.

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Ms Pfeil, wane matakai kike ganin ya kamata mu ɗauka don amfani
da wannan lokacin na watanni 10 da gwamnatoci yanzu

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ke da shi – mu ce – don wayar da kan jama'a game da
waɗannan matsalolin da kuma ɗaukar mataki a kansu?

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Don haka, tabbas, matakin mai yanke
shawara yana da matuƙar muhimmanci yanzu.

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Idan na kalli Jamus yanzu, a zahiri ba mu da fata sosai cewa
gwamnatin tarayya za ta ɗauki mataki na cewa

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ba za mu amince da IHR, IGT – Wato
Ka'idojin Lafiya na Duniya. Wannan dole ne ya faru.

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Amma abin da za mu iya yi, misali, kuma abin da muke son gwadawa
a matsayin lauyoyi ko a matsayin babbar ƙungiya, shi ne mu

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gabatar da ƙorafi ga Bundestag. Muna son mu kawo batun
gaban Bundestag na Jamus mu kuma roƙi Bundestag ta matsa wa

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gwamnati lamba ta ƙi amincewa da IHR kuma kada ta karɓi shi.

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Don haka wannan shi ne abu na farko.

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Ƙarin roƙo yana da muhimmanci; 'yan siyasa a dabi'a suna
amsawa ga masu zaɓe, wanda ke nufin cewa idan mutane

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suka fito kan tituna, hakan yana aika saƙo mai bayyananne.

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Misali, kowane mutum zai iya tsara ganawa
da ɗan siyasar da ke wakiltar mazabarsa.

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Akwai kuma kyakkyawan kayan bayanai da
sauransu. Kuma, sama da komai, a samar da ilimi.

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To, makon da ya gabata na yi magana da wata mata mai jajircewa
sosai kuma mai hangen nesa, wadda ke cikin CDU kuma tana cewa

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akwai abokan aiki da yawa a Bundestag waɗanda
har yanzu ba su sani ba – ko da yake abin mamaki

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ne – ba su san abin da ke cikin haɗari a nan ba.

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Kuma wannan shi ne damarmu da muke dogaro da ita.

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Wannan shi ne tambayata ta gaba:

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Mene ne hujjojin da muke da su kan waɗannan
'yan siyasa idan muka je mu yi ƙoƙarin yin magana

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da su kuma – mu ce – mu girgiza su har su farka?

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Da farko dai, idan waɗannan IGVs suka fara
aiki, dukkan tsarin ƙimominmu da aka tsara a

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cikin Dokar Asali zai kasance cikin haɗari.

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Da farko kuma mafi muhimmanci, hakkokin asali.

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Hakika haka ne – kuma wannan ma yana da muhimmanci a sani –
cewa gwamnatin tarayya za ta ɗauki alhakin ɗaukaka kara kan IGV.

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Duk da haka, IGV zai fara aiki a Jamus ne
kawai idan an amince da doka da dokar aiwatarwa.

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A nan ne Bundestag na Jamus da Bundesrat na Jamus ke taka rawa.

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Wannan yana nufin cewa muna da damar faɗa musu
sake: Ya ku abokan aiki, idan kun amince da

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wannan, za ku take ka'idojin asali na Dokar Asali.

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Kuma hakan zai zama dama don sake samun gaba a nan.

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Don haka lallai ya cancanci mu yi magana da 'yan
siyasa na gida, musamman wakilanmu a Bundestag?

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Tabbas. Don haka dole ne mu gwada komai, sannan kuma muna buƙatar
jama'a su goyi baya, sannan za mu iya rubuta wa 'yan siyasa.

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Da yawa suna cewa sun riga sun yi ƙoƙari, amma ba a samu amsa ba.

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Duk da haka, ko da babu wata martani nan da
nan, ina ganin cewa a ƙarshe waɗannan

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mutane za su gane cewa wani abu na faruwa a nan.

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Ɗaya ƙarshe tambaya: Wadanne ƙungiyoyi kuka sani da yanzu suke
matsawa a wannan hanya, suna cewa dole ne mu yi wani abu game

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da wannan? Kuma wa za mu iya yin hulɗa da su a wannan fanni?

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Eh, to, misali, akwai wasu shirye-shirye na 'yan ƙasa
masu kyau ƙwarai da gaske da ke adawa da WHO a Switzerland.

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Tabbas, akwai kuma wani babban shiri na
ƙwararru mai suna Tsaron Lafiya na Duniya.

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Yana wuce iyaka a ƙasashen da ake
magana da Jamusanci – abin kyau ne.

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A wani lokaci da ya gabata, na shiga wata
kawancen aiki a Jamus mai suna World Health Alliance.

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Sannan, tabbas, mun ɗauki mataki na farko, ko wani ƙarin mataki,
na kafa hanyoyin haɗin gwiwa na ƙasa da ƙasa

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tsakanin lauyoyi a Geneva, kuma mun gano cewa a dabi'a
muna da irin waɗannan matsaloli a kusan duk ƙasashe.

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Kuma hakan na nufin cewa haɗin kai na ƙasa da ƙasa yanzu gaske
yana fara samun siffa. Manufar ita ce mu ma

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– a cikin haɗin gwiwa a kowace jiha – mu yi
duk mai yiwuwa don hana wannan IGO fara aiki.

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Kuma hakan, tabbas, zai yi tasiri na musamman ma.

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Eh. Ms Pfeil, na gode ƙwarai da gaske da hirar.

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Muna yi maka fatan nasara da duk alheri!

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Na gode ƙwarai. Ba komai.

