WEBVTT 00:00.160 --> 00:08.740 Dr. Pfeil, mun ji cewa an matsa wa ƙasashe lamba su amince da sabon IHR, Wato Ka'idojin Lafiya na Duniya. 00:08.740 --> 00:12.640 Me za ka ce game da wannan? Shin akwai wata hujja ko shaida? 00:12.640 --> 00:19.696 To, ban da wata hujja mai tabbas, amma matar da ta ba da rahoton wannan ta yi aƙalla halartar taron 00:19.696 --> 00:23.280 manema labarai na lauyoyinmu a kan layi a Geneva. 00:23.280 --> 00:27.820 Ita lauya matashiya ce mai sahihanci sosai, mai himma, daga Afirka ta Kudu. 00:27.820 --> 00:35.801 Kuma wata lauya 'yar Holland ta kasance a Geneva, kuma ita ma ta tabbatar mini cewa an yi amfani da matsin lamba, 00:35.801 --> 00:41.568 wato an yi barazanar takunkumi da sauran matakai daban-daban. 00:41.568 --> 00:49.200 Shin akwai jerin yadda kowace ƙasa ta yi zaɓe, ko yaya aka gudanar da wannan? 00:49.200 --> 00:53.220 Eh, ya kasance tsari mai matuƙar ban mamaki, dangane da zaɓen. 00:53.220 --> 00:58.700 A gaskiya dai an ce kawai: Shin kowa ya riga ya samu sigar ƙarshe yanzu? 00:58.700 --> 01:04.198 Sigar ƙarshe ta IGV, kamar yadda aka ce an amince da ita, a zahiri ya kamata ta kasance a shirye 01:04.198 --> 01:08.100 watanni huɗu kafin, bisa ga Sashe na 55, sakin layi na 2. 01:08.100 --> 01:14.440 Sa'an nan shugaban taron ya ce kawai, ya kalle-kalle na ɗan lokaci sannan ya ce: Ban ga wata ƙin yarda ba. 01:14.440 --> 01:19.100 Don haka: ban ga wata ƙin yarda anan ba. Kuma haka kawai. 01:19.100 --> 01:33.088 Kuma daga baya an ruwaito cewa jihohi 37 kawai ne suka bayyana amincewarsu a fili, kuma akwai jerin waɗannan jihohi 37. 01:33.088 --> 01:36.128 To, an gudanar da kada kuri'a ne ta hanyar nuna hannaye? 01:36.128 --> 01:45.362 A'a, duk da haka, za ka iya ganin a rikodin bidiyo, na sake kallo, ba za ka ga wasu alamomin hannu ba, ko da yake akwai 01:45.362 --> 01:53.432 ƙa'ida ta tsari ga Majalisar Lafiya ta Duniya, a zaman gaba ɗaya. Dokar 72, wadda ta ce ko dai ta hanyar 01:53.432 --> 01:58.464 ɗaga hannu ko, idan an nema, ta hanyar ƙidayar murya. 01:58.464 --> 02:04.254 Ba ɗayan waɗannan abubuwa biyu ya faru ba. Wannan yana nufin cewa a nan ma akwai babban tambaya 02:04.254 --> 02:07.300 ko an gudanar da zaɓen gaba ɗaya bisa ƙa'idoji. 02:07.300 --> 02:12.576 A ganinmu, tabbas ya saba wa dokar kasa da kasa. 02:12.576 --> 02:21.820 OK, menene ma'anar waɗannan ƙa'idojin kiwon lafiya da aka sabunta, misali, idan aka ayyana annobar mura ta tsuntsaye? 02:21.820 --> 02:28.064 Eh, kamar dai ana riga ana shiryawa cutar mura ta tsuntsaye, a ce. 02:28.064 --> 02:40.253 Wannan na nufin, misali, cewa tun da IGV yanzu ke ba da matuƙar muhimmanci ga abubuwan kiwon lafiya da ake kira masu 02:40.253 --> 02:46.260 dacewa, ana iya shirya alluran rigakafi cikin sauri sosai. 02:46.260 --> 02:55.620 Hakanan akwai tsarin jeri na amfani na gaggawa, kuma tun daga shekarar 2022. 02:55.620 --> 03:02.480 Kuma abin ban sha'awa shi ne cewa kamfanonin magunguna sun riga sun iya yin nema don wasu kayayyaki. 03:02.480 --> 03:09.340 Hakanan akwai ƙwararru masu zaman kansu a hukumance waɗanda ake sa ran za su kimanta wannan. 03:09.340 --> 03:18.400 Amma abin mamaki shi ne cewa WHO tana da hakkin yanke shawara ko za ta wallafa waɗannan rahotannin ko a'a. 03:18.400 --> 03:26.845 Wannan yana nufin cewa, a ƙarshe, zan iya samun wani samfur da a fili ba a ba da shawarar sa ba saboda manyan damuwar tsaro ko 03:26.845 --> 03:35.223 saboda ba shi da tasiri, ko duka biyun, kuma WHO cikin girman kai ta yanke shawarar ba da shawarar sa ga ƙasashe duk da haka, 03:35.223 --> 03:40.100 misali a matsayin wani ɓangare na shirin tilastawa na rigakafi. 03:40.100 --> 03:43.830 To, wannan wani babban almundahana ne da ba a taɓa gani ba. 03:43.830 --> 03:49.760 Waɗanne kuke gani, ko waɗanne canje-canje a cikin Ka'idojin Lafiya na Duniya kuke ɗauka su ne mafi jawo cece-kuce? 03:49.760 --> 03:56.544 Eh, na ambaci wani batu mai jayayya, wato wannan sabon, bayyanannen mayar da hankali kan magunguna da 03:56.544 --> 04:04.240 alluran rigakafi, wanda ake kiran su da "kayayyakin kiwon lafiya masu dacewa" a maganar yaɗa ƙarya. 04:04.240 --> 04:14.132 Tabbas, dole ne mu yi la'akari da duk wannan a cikin mahallin dogaro sosai na WHO ga masu fafutukar kamfanonin magunguna. 04:14.132 --> 04:19.500 Da farko, akwai matsalar rikicin sha'awa, wato iko daga waje. 04:19.500 --> 04:24.840 Sa'an nan, kamar yadda muka sani yanzu, WHO na da tarin kwamitocin kwararru. 04:24.840 --> 04:30.187 Ana buƙatar waɗannan kwamitocin su yi bayani game da rikice-rikicen sha'awa, amma 04:30.187 --> 04:33.060 waɗannan bayanan ma suna kasancewa sirri. 04:33.060 --> 04:39.884 Kuma mun kuma san cewa a zahiri akwai zagayowar mutane marasa tsayayyen tsari tsakanin WHO da 04:39.884 --> 04:44.080 ƙungiyoyin da suka shafi magunguna da na masu zaman kansu. 04:44.080 --> 04:47.180 Wato, hakan yana da matuƙar matsala. 04:47.180 --> 04:55.100 Wani babban matsala shi ne cewa yanzu mun riga mun tabbatar a fili yaki da abin da ake kira "karya bayanai" da "disinformation" 04:55.100 --> 05:02.583 a cikin IHR, wanda ke nufin cewa wani na ikirarin mallakar bayanai guda ɗaya, mallakar gaskiya guda ɗaya, abin da a fili 05:02.583 --> 05:09.006 yake keta Sashe na 5 na Dokar Asali, wato 'yancin faɗar albarkacin baki, 'yancin samun bayanai, 'yancin 05:09.006 --> 05:12.900 kafofin watsa labarai, kuma sama da komai, 'yancin ilimi. 05:12.900 --> 05:23.518 Sannan muna da yiwuwar ƙaruwa, inda ba wai za a iya ayyana gaggawar lafiya ba kawai, wadda ake kira ƙarya, har ma da wani 05:23.518 --> 05:33.083 sabon mataki, wato abin da ake kira gaggawar annoba, inda ake tsoron za mu kuma fuskanci matakai mafi tsauri, 05:33.083 --> 05:42.784 ƙuntatawa mafi tsauri kuma watakila masu ɗorewa kan hakkokin asali, wato take hakkokin asali. 05:42.784 --> 05:49.380 Wanne daga cikin abubuwan da ka ambata yanzu kake ganin ya fi muhimmanci a ja hankalin jama'a? 05:49.380 --> 05:51.680 A gaskiya haɗin komai ne. 05:51.680 --> 06:00.785 Don haka, a ƙarshe, waɗannan kayayyakin da watakila ba a gwada ba suna haifar da barazana mai tsanani ga rai da jiki. Bugu da 06:00.785 --> 06:09.560 ƙari, bincike da ci gaba, samarwa, tallafi na kuɗi da rarrabawa na waɗannan kayayyakin yanzu za su sami ƙarin kuɗaɗe. 06:09.560 --> 06:18.000 An hanzarta mayar da waɗannan ƙa'idodi daga yarjejeniyar annoba da aka dakatar na ɗan lokaci zuwa IGV. 06:18.000 --> 06:26.354 Kuma sannan, ta hanyar tallata bincike kan waɗannan kayayyaki, muna da matsala – wato ba za mu iya raba shi da abin da ake kira 06:26.354 --> 06:34.576 binciken wasan aikin kwayoyin ba, wanda kayan aiki ne mai matukar haɗari kuma a ƙarshe zai iya kaiwa ga abin da muka riga mun 06:34.576 --> 06:42.865 fuskanta da Covid-19, wato waɗannan na iya zama ƙwayoyin cuta na dakin gwaje-gwaje waɗanda daga baya, ko da yaushe ta bazata – 06:42.865 --> 06:49.048 saboda matakan tsaro ba za su taɓa isa ba – su fita daga dakin gwaje-gwaje sannan su haifar da 06:49.048 --> 06:52.740 barkewar cutar da waɗannan IGVs ke nufin yakar ta. 06:52.740 --> 06:57.980 Kuma, tabbas, wannan wani abin mamaki ne gaba ɗaya. 06:57.980 --> 07:04.848 Ms Pfeil, wane matakai kike ganin ya kamata mu ɗauka don amfani da wannan lokacin na watanni 10 da gwamnatoci yanzu 07:04.848 --> 07:11.392 ke da shi – mu ce – don wayar da kan jama'a game da waɗannan matsalolin da kuma ɗaukar mataki a kansu? 07:11.392 --> 07:16.200 Don haka, tabbas, matakin mai yanke shawara yana da matuƙar muhimmanci yanzu. 07:16.200 --> 07:26.098 Idan na kalli Jamus yanzu, a zahiri ba mu da fata sosai cewa gwamnatin tarayya za ta ɗauki mataki na cewa 07:26.098 --> 07:34.656 ba za mu amince da IHR, IGT – Wato Ka'idojin Lafiya na Duniya. Wannan dole ne ya faru. 07:34.656 --> 07:43.338 Amma abin da za mu iya yi, misali, kuma abin da muke son gwadawa a matsayin lauyoyi ko a matsayin babbar ƙungiya, shi ne mu 07:43.338 --> 07:51.384 gabatar da ƙorafi ga Bundestag. Muna son mu kawo batun gaban Bundestag na Jamus mu kuma roƙi Bundestag ta matsa wa 07:51.384 --> 07:56.032 gwamnati lamba ta ƙi amincewa da IHR kuma kada ta karɓi shi. 07:56.032 --> 07:57.880 Don haka wannan shi ne abu na farko. 07:57.880 --> 08:03.602 Ƙarin roƙo yana da muhimmanci; 'yan siyasa a dabi'a suna amsawa ga masu zaɓe, wanda ke nufin cewa idan mutane 08:03.602 --> 08:06.880 suka fito kan tituna, hakan yana aika saƙo mai bayyananne. 08:06.880 --> 08:13.360 Misali, kowane mutum zai iya tsara ganawa da ɗan siyasar da ke wakiltar mazabarsa. 08:13.360 --> 08:19.200 Akwai kuma kyakkyawan kayan bayanai da sauransu. Kuma, sama da komai, a samar da ilimi. 08:19.200 --> 08:30.721 To, makon da ya gabata na yi magana da wata mata mai jajircewa sosai kuma mai hangen nesa, wadda ke cikin CDU kuma tana cewa 08:30.721 --> 08:39.454 akwai abokan aiki da yawa a Bundestag waɗanda har yanzu ba su sani ba – ko da yake abin mamaki 08:39.454 --> 08:44.260 ne – ba su san abin da ke cikin haɗari a nan ba. 08:44.260 --> 08:48.840 Kuma wannan shi ne damarmu da muke dogaro da ita. 08:48.840 --> 08:50.240 Wannan shi ne tambayata ta gaba: 08:50.240 --> 08:55.080 Mene ne hujjojin da muke da su kan waɗannan 'yan siyasa idan muka je mu yi ƙoƙarin yin magana 08:55.080 --> 08:58.140 da su kuma – mu ce – mu girgiza su har su farka? 08:58.140 --> 09:06.880 Da farko dai, idan waɗannan IGVs suka fara aiki, dukkan tsarin ƙimominmu da aka tsara a 09:06.880 --> 09:11.580 cikin Dokar Asali zai kasance cikin haɗari. 09:11.580 --> 09:15.000 Da farko kuma mafi muhimmanci, hakkokin asali. 09:15.000 --> 09:24.640 Hakika haka ne – kuma wannan ma yana da muhimmanci a sani – cewa gwamnatin tarayya za ta ɗauki alhakin ɗaukaka kara kan IGV. 09:24.640 --> 09:33.260 Duk da haka, IGV zai fara aiki a Jamus ne kawai idan an amince da doka da dokar aiwatarwa. 09:33.260 --> 09:39.460 A nan ne Bundestag na Jamus da Bundesrat na Jamus ke taka rawa. 09:39.460 --> 09:44.898 Wannan yana nufin cewa muna da damar faɗa musu sake: Ya ku abokan aiki, idan kun amince da 09:44.898 --> 09:48.704 wannan, za ku take ka'idojin asali na Dokar Asali. 09:48.704 --> 09:55.480 Kuma hakan zai zama dama don sake samun gaba a nan. 09:55.480 --> 10:01.720 Don haka lallai ya cancanci mu yi magana da 'yan siyasa na gida, musamman wakilanmu a Bundestag? 10:01.720 --> 10:08.920 Tabbas. Don haka dole ne mu gwada komai, sannan kuma muna buƙatar jama'a su goyi baya, sannan za mu iya rubuta wa 'yan siyasa. 10:08.920 --> 10:12.960 Da yawa suna cewa sun riga sun yi ƙoƙari, amma ba a samu amsa ba. 10:12.960 --> 10:18.175 Duk da haka, ko da babu wata martani nan da nan, ina ganin cewa a ƙarshe waɗannan 10:18.175 --> 10:22.800 mutane za su gane cewa wani abu na faruwa a nan. 10:22.800 --> 10:28.477 Ɗaya ƙarshe tambaya: Wadanne ƙungiyoyi kuka sani da yanzu suke matsawa a wannan hanya, suna cewa dole ne mu yi wani abu game 10:28.477 --> 10:31.584 da wannan? Kuma wa za mu iya yin hulɗa da su a wannan fanni? 10:31.584 --> 10:38.860 Eh, to, misali, akwai wasu shirye-shirye na 'yan ƙasa masu kyau ƙwarai da gaske da ke adawa da WHO a Switzerland. 10:38.860 --> 10:44.200 Tabbas, akwai kuma wani babban shiri na ƙwararru mai suna Tsaron Lafiya na Duniya. 10:44.200 --> 10:47.240 Yana wuce iyaka a ƙasashen da ake magana da Jamusanci – abin kyau ne. 10:47.240 --> 10:53.920 A wani lokaci da ya gabata, na shiga wata kawancen aiki a Jamus mai suna World Health Alliance. 10:53.920 --> 10:59.777 Sannan, tabbas, mun ɗauki mataki na farko, ko wani ƙarin mataki, na kafa hanyoyin haɗin gwiwa na ƙasa da ƙasa 10:59.777 --> 11:06.160 tsakanin lauyoyi a Geneva, kuma mun gano cewa a dabi'a muna da irin waɗannan matsaloli a kusan duk ƙasashe. 11:06.160 --> 11:15.051 Kuma hakan na nufin cewa haɗin kai na ƙasa da ƙasa yanzu gaske yana fara samun siffa. Manufar ita ce mu ma 11:15.051 --> 11:22.600 – a cikin haɗin gwiwa a kowace jiha – mu yi duk mai yiwuwa don hana wannan IGO fara aiki. 11:22.600 --> 11:28.352 Kuma hakan, tabbas, zai yi tasiri na musamman ma. 11:28.352 --> 11:31.120 Eh. Ms Pfeil, na gode ƙwarai da gaske da hirar. 11:31.120 --> 11:33.100 Muna yi maka fatan nasara da duk alheri! 11:33.100 --> 11:34.653 Na gode ƙwarai. Ba komai.