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Daga 16 zuwa 23 ga Yuni 2024, an sake
gudanar da sansanin zaman lafiya a wannan shekara a

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kusa da sansanin soja na Amurka a Ramstein.

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A wannan lokacin, Stop Airbase Ramstein ta
shirya mako guda na ayyuka mai faɗi kan taken

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zaman lafiya, la'akari da ƙaruwa a ƙoƙarin yaki.

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Za a sake tayar da wani yaki daga ƙasar
Jamus, ta haka ba tare da wata tausayi ba a

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karya alkawarinmu na cewa ba za mu sake yaki ba?

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Kla.tv ta kasance a wurin taron yamma na 21 ga Yuni kai tsaye,
tana tattara ra'ayoyi da muryoyin jama'a,

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sannan ta ba Daniele Ganser damar amsa wannan
tambayar a cikin gajeriyar hira ta musamman.

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Nisan kilomita kaɗan idan an yi amfani da layin
tsaye shi ne sansanin soja mafi girma na Amurka a

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Jamus, Ramstein, hedkwatar Sojin Sama ta Amurka a Turai.

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Dukkan yaƙe-yaƙen jiragen sama marasa matuka a 'yan
shekarun nan, ko a Pakistan, Libya, Afghanistan,

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Somalia, Yemen ko Iraki, an sarrafa su ne daga nan.

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Ba mutane da yawa ke sanin cewa gwamnatin Amurka har yanzu
tana gudanar da fiye da sansanonin soja 100 ƙari a Jamus.

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Wannan babbar mayar da sojoji na dabaru ta
Amurka a Jamus tana firgita mutane da yawa.

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Kuma tashin hankali na ƙaruwa.

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A farkon makon, gidan yada labarai na yanar gizo da
Turanci Jamusanci mai suna News ya buga taken labarin,

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"NATO da Wiesbaden za su zama hedkwatar tallafin Ukraine."

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Wannan yana nufin sansanin Amurka a Wiesbaden-Erbenheim.

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Klagemauer TV ta riga ta samar da wani shiri
na gaskiya mai ban sha'awa kan wannan batu.

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Tsawon shekaru, mutane da yawa a ƙasarmu ba sa iya
huta cikin kwanciyar hankali, suna sane cewa muna zaune

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a kan tarin barasa mai fashewa, kamar yadda ake faɗa.

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A wannan shekara, daruruwan mutane sun
sake taruwa a nan a sansanin zaman lafiya a

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matsayin wani ɓangare na makon zaman lafiya.

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Sakonka?

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Muna aiki tuƙuru don zaman lafiya.

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Mun ƙi zama abokan gaba kuma muna neman haɗin
kai na ƙasa da ƙasa da gina cibiyoyin sadarwa.

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Sannu, idan muna tuki a titunan nan,
komai yana cikin kwanciyar hankali.

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Zaman lafiya ne.

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Me ya sa sansanin zaman lafiya?

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Me ya sa kake nan a yau?

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Zan iya amsa wannan a matakin kaina.

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Ina da wani abu a hannuna.

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Wannan wani yanki ne na ƙarfen fashewa.

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Uwar mahaifiyata ta ɗauke shi yayin da
har yanzu yake dumi, tana da shekaru 16.

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An haifi mahaifiyata a shekarar 1924.

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Na san daga cikin labarai yadda yaɗa labaran yaƙi ke aiki da
yadda ake tada mutane cikin tashin hankali har su tafi yaƙi.

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Kuma daidai wannan ne nake gani a nan a yanzu.

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Ana jefa mu cikin yaɗa labaran yaƙi
kuma gwamnatinmu na son tura mu yaƙi.

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Anan Jamus, a kan ƙasar Jamus.

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Kuma tun ina yaro, na koyi cewa ba zan sake yaki ba.

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Babana ya taimaka kafa motsin Easter March kuma ya ba
da shawara ga masu kin yin soja bisa dalilan ruhaniya.

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A bayyane yake a gare ni cewa ɗana bai kamata ya je can ba.

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Shi yana da shekaru 27, 'yata ma ba ta da
shekaru 24, haka kuma babu ɗayan sauran 'ya'yanmu.

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Kuma 'yan Ukraine da 'yan Rasha ba su kamata su je can ba ma.

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Babu yaki kuma shi ne kaɗai taken da zan iya
tunani wanda za a iya aiwatarwa a wannan fanni.

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Yafi kyau a ciyar da awanni 1,000 wajen
tattaunawa fiye da awa ɗaya wajen harbi.

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Kuma Rammstein, tabbas, wuri ne mai kyau don yin zanga-zanga na
zaman lafiya, domin abubuwa masu matuƙar muni na faruwa a nan.

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Kuma wani lokaci ina samun ra'ayi cewa mu 'yan Jamus
muna kan gaba idan ya zo ga yaki a ko'ina cikin duniya ko

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kuma taimaka wa wasu su yi yaki a ko'ina cikin duniya.

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Kuma ba lallai ne haka ba, ko?

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Shi ya sa nake nan ina goyon bayan
sansanin zaman lafiya na Rammstein, kuma ina

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farin ciki cewa mutane da yawa sun amsa kiran.

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Me ya sa kake nan a yau?

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Me ya sa sansanin zaman lafiya yake da muhimmanci?

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Sannu.

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Don haka watakila har yanzu akwai zaman lafiya a nan.

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Amma da farko, ba a ko'ina ba.

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Na biyu, ba da jimawa ba ba za a sake samun zaman lafiya a nan
ba idan 'yan siyasa suka ci gaba da abin da alama sun shirya.

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Kuma ina matuƙar son nuna da kasancewata a nan cewa
ba kowa ne kawai makaho ga abin da aka gaya mana ba.

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Mai kyau. Na gode da kasancewarka anan.

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A yau, manyan masu jawabi za su hau
mataki don yin magana game da zaman lafiya.

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Jaruma Christiane Reimann, masanin addini, masanin
nazarin tunani da marubuci Eugen Drewermann, da

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masanin tarihi da mai binciken zaman lafiya Daniele Ganser.

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Na gode ƙwarai da kasancewarku a nan da kuma zuwanku da yawa.

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Ina matuƙar farin ciki da hakan.

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Kuma zan iya tabbatar maka cewa a
ƙididdiga, kai ne mafi yawan mutane.

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Akwai sabuwar bincike, wadda ta kasance ta duniya.

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Wannan yana nuna cewa ba kawai a Jamus ba, ba kawai
a Faransa ba, ba kawai a Birtaniya ba, har ma a

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Amurka, mafi yawan mutane suna adawa da yaki da Rasha.

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Rammstein ita ce babbar sansanin soja na Amurka a wajen ƙasarta.

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Daga nan ake gudanar da hare-haren jiragen sama
marasa matuka kuma ake tsara su a ko'ina cikin duniya.

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Ba bisa doka ba. A kowane lokaci. Ba zato ba tsammani.

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Da amincewar Jamhuriyar Tarayya, wadda ke ikirarin
cewa ba ta san komai game da cikakkun bayanai ba.

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Mun san game da wannan kuma ba ma
son ya ci gaba da kasancewa haka.

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Sakon ya bayyana.

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Hajiya Baerbock, muna buƙatar mu yi
sulhu maimakon mu yi ƙoƙarin halaka Rasha.

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Dole ne mu ga tsoronmu a idanun wasu.

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Mun zama masu kisan kai.

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Mista Pistorius, za ka iya karanta
game da hakan a gidan kayan tarihi naka.

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Daga ƙwarewa tsakanin 1914 da 1918.

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Shin da gaske kake tunanin cewa wannan ya inganta?

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Kamar yadda aka saba, Yaƙin Duniya na Biyu bai
wuce ƙara tsananta Yaƙin Duniya na Farko ba.

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Kuma abin da muke da shi yanzu ya fi
muni fiye da duk Yaƙin Duniya na Biyu.

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Ko bama-baman atomi a Hiroshima da Nagasaki ba su isa ba.

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Amurka na buƙatar bama-baman hydrogen.

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Amurka ba ta da isassun bama-baman neutron har yanzu.

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Dole ne kashe-kashe ya kasance koyaushe yana iya ƙaruwa.

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Kuma yanzu watakila mafi muni daga cikin duka.

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Muna buƙatar mutane da suke son halarta.

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Ana sa ran 'yan mata masu shekaru 16 da 18 su kasance
a shirye su koyi yadda ake kashe mutane bisa umarni.

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Wannan yana faruwa a kowane filin sansanin sojoji a duniya.

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Shi ya sa nake magana don zaman lafiya kuma nake adawa da yaki.

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Ba don dalilai na siyasa kawai,
tattalin arziki ko wasu dalilai ba.

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Amma a ka'ida.

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Yaki rashin ɗan-adam ne a matsayin tushen dukkan rashin ɗabi'a.

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Mutum a kan teburin aiki.

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Idan ka koma, gaya mata ta zana bam-bam na hannu da
bututun kanon maimakon tukunyar girki da bututun siga na ruwa.

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Mutum a kan teburin aiki, ce a'a.

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Uwa a Jamus.

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Uwa a Ukraine.

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Idan ka koma ka gaya mata cewa ya kamata ka haifi yara.

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Yan mata don asibitoci.

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Yara maza don rami-rami.

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Uwa a Jamus.

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Uwa a Ukraine, ki ce a'a.

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Mutum a dakin gwaje-gwaje.

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Idan suka zo wurinka su ce ya kamata ka
ƙirƙiri sabon mutuwa ga tsohon rayuwa.

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Mutumin dake dakin gwaje-gwaje yace a'a.

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Kuma firist ɗin a cikin minbarin.

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Daga wurin wanda a 'yan kwanakin nan ban ji ko
kalma guda ba, ko ma amincewa ga Pope Francis.

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Mutum a cikin minbarin.

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Idan suka dawo su ce ka yi hujjar yakin ka albarkace makaman.

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Mutum a cikin minbarin, ka ce a'a.

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Domin idan ba ka ce a'a ba, komai zai dawo
kuma ya fi muni fiye da yadda ya taɓa kasancewa.

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Na gode da kasancewarku a nan.

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Viola Amherd da Ignazio Cassis yanzu sun
shirya taron zaman lafiya a watan Yuni.

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Kun ji labarin yaƙin Ukraine, kuma ba su gayyaci 'yan Rasha ba.

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Don haka, wannan wata alama ce, idan wani
lokaci kana mamakin ko muna rayuwa a zamanin rudani.

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To, amsar ta bayyana sosai: eh

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Yana kama da lokacin da kake da rikici a aure kuma ka ce, eh, ni
ƙwararre ne, zan iya taimaka maka, amma zan gayyaci matar kawai.

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Sa'an nan za mu warware shi.

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Ba zai yiwu ba, kowa ya san hakan.

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Kuma wannan daidai shi ne abin da muka fuskanta a Switzerland.

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Kuma a zahiri, nazarin shi ne cewa za a iya cewa
Amurkawa sun karya haramcin Majalisar Dinkin

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Duniya na amfani da karfi saboda sun kifar da gwamnati.

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Ba za ka yi hakan ba.

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Wannan wata keta ce ta haramcin
tashin hankali na Majalisar Dinkin Duniya.

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Kuma 'yan Rasha sun karya haramcin amfani da tashin hankali
saboda sun yi mamaya a shekarar 1942. Yanzu

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ka ɗauki 1942 da 1942 tare ka ce, to, a nan
Jamus za ta iya kasancewa ba tare da ɓangare ba.

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Za ka iya kasancewa a tsaka-tsaki ka ce, akwai
kungiyoyi biyu daban a nan, za mu shiga tsakani.

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Kuma fa'ida ɗaya ita ce za mu rabu da Amurkawa.

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Amma hakan zai nufin cewa Jamus ya kamata ta bar NATO.

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Zan so in kammala da cewa haka.

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Idan ka fahimci cewa ba hankali bane ka shiga yaki
da Amurkawa a kowane lokaci, to komai zai daidaita.

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To, ba shi da wahala sosai.

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Ba shi da wahala sosai.

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Maimakon haka, mutum kawai yace, to,
Amurkawa sun riga sun bama-bamai Vietnam.

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Sun kifar da gwamnati a Iran.

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Sun kifar da gwamnati a Guatemala.

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Sun kifar da gwamnati a Chile.

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Sun yi bama-bamai a Libya, tabbas.

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Sun yi magudi a zaɓen Italiya.

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A shekarar 1948, ba ka ma haife ka ba.

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Amma sai dai ya ci gaba kawai.

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Wannan jerin yaƙe-yaƙe ne masu tsawo sosai da Amurkawa suka yi.

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Kuma a ta fuskar dabaru, babban burina a nan Jamus shi ne
wayar da kan mutane cewa akwai mutane masu ban mamaki a Amurka.

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Suma suna cikin dangin ɗan adam.

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Kamar 'yan Rasha da 'yan Ukraine
da 'yan Falasdinu da 'yan Isra'ila.

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Amma dole ne ka sani cewa wata ƙungiya ƙanana sosai
a Amurka tana da matuƙar tashin hankali. Matuƙar.

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Kuma ba ya kamata a bi su ba tare da tunani ba.

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Mista Ganser, na dogon lokaci, babban ƙa'ida
a Jamus da a harkokin siyasa shi ne cewa

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yaƙi bai kamata ya sake tasowa daga Jamus ba.

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Idan aka yi la'akari da bayanan da 'yan siyasa na Jamus
suka fitar kwanan nan, yaya kake kallon wannan karin magana?

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Eh, ina damuwa.

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Ina ganin karin magana har yanzu tana daidai.

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Ya kamata yaƙi kada ya sake tasowa daga Jamus.

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Kuma idan yanzu ka ce, eh ko a'a, za mu ba
Ukraine makamai kuma Ukraine na da izinin bama-bamai

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kan Rasha da waɗannan makaman, to babu matsala.

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Na ga irin waɗannan bayanan ba daidai ba ne.

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Zan ga ya fi amfani ko dacewa idan Jamus ta ce,
a'a, muna son yin aiki don samun zaman lafiya.

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Muna son yin aiki don kawo 'yan Ukraine da 'yan Rasha teburin
tattaunawa da tabbatar da cewa ba za su sake kashe juna ba.

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Wannan yana nufin cewa a zahiri ya
kamata wannan ya zama rawar Jamus.

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Ba don tayar da yaƙe-yaƙe ba, kuma sama da komai kada a yi
yaƙe-yaƙe – eh, wannan shi ne rahoton Taurus da

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muka ji, inda jami'an Sojojin Jamus, Rundunar Sojin
Sama, suka ce za mu iya harbe Rasha da bama-bamai.

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Wannan gaba ɗaya ba daidai ba ne.

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Wannan yana damuna.

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Kuma ina kuma ganin cewa mafi yawan
mutanen Jamus tabbas ba sa son hakan.

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Me ka ce?

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Me 'yan siyasa na Jamus ke faɗa a gaskiya a nan Rammstein?

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Me za ka ce game da NATO?

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Shin kana da wani sarari na yin motsi kwata-kwata?

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To, ya danganta da yadda kake kallonsa.

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A hukumance, Jamus ƙasa ce mai cikakken iko.

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Kuma idan ƙasa ce mai cin gashin kanta, 'yan
siyasa na Jamus za su iya barin NATO su ce ba

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ma son kasancewa cikin wannan kawancen soja.

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Siyasantan Jamus, irin su Firayim Minista Olaf Scholz, za su iya
matsa lamba don samun bayani a kan harin ta'addanci da aka kai

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wa bututun Nord Stream a ranar 26 ga Yuli da 27 ga Satumba, 2022.

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Amma idan ka duba da kyau, dole ne ka gani, kuma
tabbas yana da zafi a gani, cewa Olaf Scholz ba ya matsa

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lamba don a yi bincike kan wannan harin ta'addanci.

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Kuma a gaskiya, ina so a fayyace wannan, domin
wannan babban harin ta'addanci ne wanda ya

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kuma jawo babbar barna ga tattalin arzikin Jamus.

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Kuma a nan mutum ya riga ya ji
cewa ana takaita ikon mallakar Jamus.

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Kuma shi ya sa ra'ayina shi ne cewa duk
sojojin Amurka ya kamata su janye daga Jamus.

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Akwai 38,000 a halin yanzu.

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Kuma cewa dole ne a rufe sansanin sojin sama na Rammstein.

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Muna 'yan mitoci kaɗan daga sansanin sojin sama.

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Ko da yake wannan shi ne matsayina
yanzu, na san cewa ba zai faru gobe ba.

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Amma ina ganin yana da amfani idan mutane da yawa suka
fara ƙara yarda su bayyana wannan matsayi a bainar jama'a.

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Wato, bai kamata mu yi tsammani mai
yawa daga siyasa a wannan lokaci ba.

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Dole ne mu ɗauki mataki da kanmu.

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Dole ne mu farka da kanmu, kamar yadda ake faɗa, mu
kuma mika muradinmu, niyyarmu, kamar yadda ake faɗa.

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Eh, ina ganin al'umma dole ta yanke
shawara da kanta abin da take so.

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Don haka akwai wani ɓangare na al'umma a Jamus da ke tunanin cewa
Amurkawa abokai ne nagari gare mu kuma suna nufin mu da alheri.

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Amma daga nan zan yi nazari sosai kan harin
ta'addanci da aka kai wa bututun Nord Stream.

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Idan har ka kai ga ƙarshe cewa, to, Amurkawa suna da
muradu da suka sha bamban da namu a wasu bangarori, to dole

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ne ka yi la'akari da yadda za mu tabbatar da muradunmu.

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Domin haka zai kasance da amfani ga Jamus ta shigo da iskar gas
mai rahusa daga Rasha kuma ta sami tattalin arziki mai bunƙasa.

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Amma yanzu muna cikin wani hali inda Jamus ke cikin haɗarin cewa
za ta fara shiga cikin yaƙin da ake yi da Ukraine a hankali.

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domin sojojin Ukraine an horar da su
a sansanonin soja na Amurka a Jamus.

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Kuma idan muka kalli tarihi, ya bayyana cewa Amurkawa sun
ja Jamus cikin yaƙi lokacin da suka kai hari kan Serbia a

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shekarar 1999, a Afghanistan a 2001, da a Siriya a 2015.

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Kuma zan ce kawai cewa waɗannan ƙasashe
ne ƙanana: Serbia, Afghanistan da Siriya.

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Rasha lamari ne gaba ɗaya daban.

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Kuma wannan shi ne lokacin da ya kamata mu farka mu ce, ba
za mu sake yaki ba, ko da yaki da Rasha ba, ba ma so hakan.

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Kullum kana magana game da dangin
ɗan adam, wanda kyakkyawan hoto ne.

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Wane mafita kake gani?

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Me za mu iya yi a matsayin 'yan adam?

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Don haka, da kalmar "iyalan ɗan adam," nake nufi cewa
'yan Ukraine da 'yan Rasha, 'yan Amurka da 'yan Jamus, 'yan

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Serbia da 'yan Afghanistan duk suna cikin iyalan ɗan adam.

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Saboda yaɗa labaran yaƙi koyaushe yana nuna wata
ƙungiya a matsayin mugunta, sannan yana jayayya cewa

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idan muka kashe miyagun mutane, za mu fi samun alheri.

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Haka ake faɗa koyaushe.

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Kuma a zahiri haka lamarin ya kasance koyaushe a duk tarihin.

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Don haka kawai na gane cewa wata dabarar tsohuwa ce.

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Abin da nake son nuna da kalmar 'iyalan ɗan adam' shi ne cewa bai
kamata ku kashe kowa ba kwata-kwata, kuma ya kamata ku ƙi duk

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wannan yaɗa labarai na cewa 'yan ta'adda kaɗai ke zaune a
Afghanistan kuma Rasha sukan kasance masu mugunta tun haihuwa.

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Duk maganar yaɗa ƙarya ce ta yaki, don ku yi watsi da ita sannan
ku ce, a'a, akwai mutane nagari da ke rayuwa a Afghanistan.

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Akwai mutane masu ban mamaki da ke zaune a
Rasha, mutane masu ban mamaki da ke zaune a

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Ukraine, mutane masu ban mamaki da ke zaune a Jamus.

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Don kada ka bari a raba ka.

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Domin cewa yaɗa ƙarya na yaƙi na iya jawo babbar
lahani a zukatan mutane da tunaninsu idan suka fara

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tunanin cewa wata ƙasa ko wata ƙasa a asali mugunta ce.

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Wannan koyaushe ƙarya ce.

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Eh, kuma a ƙarshe suna rasa tsoron mutumin ɗayan ma.

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Mista Ganser, na gode ƙwarai da wannan gajeren hira.

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Ka ce ƙauna, gaskiya da ƙarfin hali.

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Kuma ina fatan a rayuwarka za ka
shimfiɗa waɗannan sanduna uku nesa da juna.

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To, na gode.

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Ka yi kyakkyawan rana.

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Zai zo nan ba da jimawa ba a cikin shirin, kada ku rasa shi.

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Fim ɗin shaidar NATO

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Zaman lafiya a Turai – shin NATO na da muhimmanci?

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Bincike mai ingantacce ya bayyana yadda NATO ke
tada rikici da dabaru na karkatar da hankali.

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