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Emkhakheni wezokwelapha eziphuthumayo, into yokuqala oyifundayo
wukuthi uma kwenzeka ingozi edala ukulimala kwabantu abaningi

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noma okuthile okufana nalokho, awungene esimweni bese ubiza usizo
uthi, "Sizofa sonke, asinazo izimoto zokuthutha iziguli ezanele,

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asikwazi ukukwelapha," ngoba akusikho okufanele ukwenze.

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Ngakho kwacaca ukuthi kuzoba nokufa ngenxa yemijovo
yokugoma, futhi ngaleso sikhathi bekufanele bayeke.

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Ngikholelwa ukuthi sonke sizofa, kodwa hhayi ngenxa
ye-coronavirus noma Isifo X; akukho okuzoshintsha ngalokho.

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Esikhundleni salokho, sidinga abantu abaningi abazimisele,
lapho bekungabaza, bame ngokuqinile futhi bahlale beqinile ukuze

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zonke izizwe ekugcineni zibone uNkulunkulu ngaphakathi kwazo.

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Umlawuli: Yebo, wamukelekile ku-Kla. TV.

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Ngemva kobhubhane lwe-coronavirus, ngesikhathi kwathathwa
izinyathelo eziningi futhi kwenziwa izinqumo eziningi

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ngabezepolitiki, ezinye zazo zashiya abantu bezibuza, "Ingabe
lokhu kusajwayelekile? Ingabe kunento enengqondo kulokhu konke?"

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Yilokho ngempela okwenza abantu abaningi kakhulu bakhulume
nge-plandemic, begcizelela u-L. Futhi ngaleso

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sikhathi, kwakukhona futhi ochwepheshe abathile,
kuhlanganise nodokotela wokuqala, owavuka wathi,

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UDkt. Bodo Schiffmann ungumuntu owayenesibindi
sokuveza umbono ophikisanayo futhi, ngokombono

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wobungcweti, wahlanganisa izinto kahle kakhulu kakhulu.

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Futhi namuhla, simenemukela lapha e-Kla.TV
njengomkhona wethu ukuze senze ingxoxo naye.

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Siyakwamukela ngokufudumele kakhulu, Bodo othandekayo.

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Bodo: Yebo, Mathias othandekayo. Ngiyabonga kakhulu ngomemo.

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Ngiyajabula ukuba yingxenye ye-Kla.TV.

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Umlawuli: Yebo, muva nje sibe nethuba lokuzazana
kancane. Bekumnandi kakhulu ukuba isivakashi esiteshini sakho.

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Futhi ungumuntu othakazelisa kakhulu,
ikakhulukazi ngoba wawuphumelela kakhulu njengodokotela

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ngisho nangaphambi kobhubhane we-coronavirus.

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Ngokwazi kwami, wawuphatha
ibhizinisi lokuzilolonga ndawonye nomkakho.

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Ngitshele, kwenzeka kanjani ukuthi ekugcineni wathi, 'Ngiyayeka
lokhu, ngizovuma umbono ongajwayelekile

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ongazange usabalale kabanzi phakathi kodokotela
ngaleso sikhathi, ikakhulukazi lapho iCorona yaqala'?

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Bodo: Kulungile, okokuqala nje, akekho phakathi kwethu. Futhi
ngicabanga ukuthi ngikhulumela wonke umuntu

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owakhuluma lapho ngithi akekho phakathi kwethu obekulindele
ukuthi kuzodingeka asiyeke lutho ngalokho esikushilo.

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Angizange ngazi ukuthi sizohlangabezana nomoya
ophambene. Futhi kumele ngivume, angizange ngilindele lokho.

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Ngakho-ke nginguchwepheshe
kwezokwelapha zindlebe, ikhala nomqala.

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Ngazibandakanya kwezifo zohlelo
lwe-vestibular kanye nokujikeleza kwekhanda.

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Lokho kwakuyinto ehlekisayo: amavidiyo ami okuqala
ayehlala ethi avela eklinikhi ye-vertigo yaseSinsheim.

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Futhi abantu abaningi bacabanga ukuthi
kwakuyihlekiso, ukuthi le kiliniki yokudideka kwekhanda

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yayizama ukuthola uhlobo oluthile lokudideka kwekhanda.

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Kodwa lokho kwakungeyona inhloso.

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Umkami futhi ungudokotela wezindlebe, ikhala
nomqala kanye nomelaphi wokulimala kwengqondo.

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Futhi ngingudokotela wezokwelapha eziphuthumayo.

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Futhi ngivela emkhakheni wezokwelapha eziphuthumayo. Emkhakheni
wezokwelapha eziphuthumayo, into yokuqala oyifundayo wukuthi uma

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kwenzeka ingozi yabantu abaningi noma okuthile okufana nakho,
awungene esimweni bese ukhala uthi, "Sisize,

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sonke sizofa!", "Asinazo izimoto zokuthutha
iziguli ezanele!", "Asikwazi ukukwelapha!".

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Awukwenzi lokho.

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Lokho kusho ukuthi impendulo yami yokuqala
yayingokuthi okwenzwaabezindaba lapha akunamthwalo wemfanelo.

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Futhi njengoba wawusho, nganginodumo olukhulu, ngangiyingcweti
yobugebengu bokukhohlisa kwa-Apotheken-Umschau, ngangivele

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ku-SWR nakwezinye izinhlelo zethelevishini, abantu babengazi.

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Bengivele nginenkanjini ye-YouTube.

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Ngakho ngacabanga ngaphakathi kwami, kulungile, kumele ngizame
ukusebenzisa ubuchwepheshe bami njengochwepheshe wokubanda –

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okuyikho kuphela okwenzayo njengodokotela
wezindlebe, ikhala nomphimbo – futhi njengodokotela

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wezimo eziphuthumayo, ngithi, bafowethu, nithule.

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Ngagcina ividiyo yokuqala engiyenzile
ngomhlaka 14 Mashi 2020 ngala mazwi: "Ngicabanga

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ukuthi sonke sizofa, kodwa hhayi nge-coronavirus!"

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Lokho kwakuyisiphetho salokho.

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Ngakho-ke kwakuyimbono ehlukile nge-coronavirus,
yilokho okwakuhloswe, kulokhu ngaphandle kokwesaba.

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Futhi ngangikholwa ngempela ngalokhu, ngoba nami
nganginabaguli abavelele kakhulu, kuhlanganisa

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abezepolitiki, abadlali bezemidlalo nabanye abafana nabo.

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Ngacabanga ukuthi omunye wabo kumele axhumane noMerkel.

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Futhi uMerkel ungusosayensi
we-physics ye-quantum, uyokuqonda lokho.

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Futhi ngabe ngimtshela nje, "lalela,
lezi zinombolo ziyahunyushwa kabi."

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Futhi kumele umtshele lokho, futhi kumele uthi
uChristian Drosten wenze ukwahlulela okungalungile lapha.

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Ungayinaki, uhamba ngendlela engalungile lapha.

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Lokho empeleni kwakuyikho konke.

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Yebo, futhi yilokho kuphela engangifuna ukukwenza.

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Bengicabanga ukuthi ngizokwenza ividiyo, omunye
wamakhasimende ami noma iziguli zami ayithathe, ayibonise

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kuMerkel noma kubani, bese ethi, "Nansi, bheka, kukhona eyodwa."

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Lowo ngudokotela wami wezindlebe, ikhanda nomphimbo;
wangisiza. Ungudokotela wezimo eziphuthumayo futhi, uyazi

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okukhuluma ngakho futhi ubona izinto ngendlela ehlukile.

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Akekho ithuba.

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Umlawuli: Akekho ithuba, yebo.

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Yebo, kuyathakazelisa kakhulu.

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Bodo: Futhi ukuthi ungagcina ulahlekelwa umsebenzi
wakho noma ngokuzumayo umemezele njengeNazi noma yini,

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mina, umkami, noma noma ubani abazange bazi ngalokho.

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Kodwa uma ngesinye isikhathi uqaphela noma ucabanga ukuthi
umsebenzi wakho ubalulekile ekusindiseni

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izimpilo, ekudambiseni ukwesaba kwabantu,
ekufundiseni abantu ukuthi lokhu akubi kangako,

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Ngamanye amazwi, ukuthatha umsebenzi engangingawulindela
ezindabeni zangempela, okwethutyana nje kuphela, vele.

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Bengihlale ngicabanga, kahle, hhayi bo, bengingafuni
ukwenza enye ividiyo, kodwa ngizokwenza eyodwa futhi.

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Ekugcineni kwaba okunye futhi okunye futhi okunye.

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Yebo, nansi thina namuhla.

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Umlawuli: Nansi thina namuhla.

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Yebo, kuyathakazelisa kakhulu ngempela.

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Wawusebenza kakhulu ngesikhathi sobhubhane oluhleliwe.

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Wawuphuma emigwaqweni, emibhikishweni,
awuzange uzibambe ekukhulumeni, wathi nje

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izinto abanye abangeke babe nesibindi sokuzisho.

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Kuzizwa kanjani manje, ngemva kwalesi sikhathi lapho
izinto zingasasebenzi kangako, ukuthola ukuqinisekiswa

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okuvela ezinhlelweni ze-RKI ezisashicilelwe manje?

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Ube usebenza kanzima kakhulu kakhulu kukho.

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Ngilandela lokhu ngokuseduze esiteshini sakho.

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Uwabahlukanise ngempela.

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Ngandlela thile, lokho nakho kuyimisebenzi esiyibona
thina kwa-Kla.TV njengomthwalo wethu: ukurekhoda izinto

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ezenzekile ukuze ekugcineni zicutshungulwe ngendlela efanele.

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Futhi wenze umnikelo obaluleke kakhulu.

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Ngitshele, wathola ini ngalokho?

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Yiziphi izihloko eziyinhloko zalezi ziqondiso ze-RKI?

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Ubusho kaningi kangakanani ukuthi "Akukho okunjalo"?

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Kuyahlanya kangakanani lokho?

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Bodo: Izinqubo ze-RKI zaziyithuba
kimi lokuzindla ngaleso sikhathi.

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Sekudlule isikhathi eside kusukela
ngoMashi 2020, ngesikhathi ngaqala.

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futhi kwezinye izimo kwakungasasebenzi kimi ukukubeka emkhathini.

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Ngakho-ke, ngokwesisekelo somgomo, ngizowuphi isikhathi
engasho ngini, abaphathi bezepolitiki bathini, benzeni?

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Njengoba ngangihlale ngilungiselela ukwethulwa
kwe-PowerPoint kwezividiyo zokuqala futhi ngangisenezethulo,

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ngangikwazi ukuqhathanisa kahle kakhulu izikhathi.

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Ngakho-ke ngangithatha amafayela e-RKI futhi
ngangithatha lokho engikushilo, okungukuthi

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ulwazi engazitholela ngokwami ku-inthanethi.

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Futhi kimi, vele, kwakuwukuqinisekiswa.

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Ngoba uma uphuma obala, ukhuluma ngaphandle
kokucabanga futhi wenza konke engikwenzayo,

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khona-ke ngempela ubeka engcupheni yokwenza iphutha.

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Futhi uma sibheka emuva, ukubona ukuthi ochwepheshe bangempela
eRobert Koch Institute, futhi ngalokho ngicacisa

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ukuthi angisho uLars Schade noma uMnu Wieler, kodwa
abantu ababemi ngemuva kulesi sikomidi sobuchwepheshe.

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Futhi lapho ngibona ukuthi empeleni bafinyelele eziphethweni
ezifana nezami ezikaWolfgang Wodarg, Sucharit Bhakdi, Klaus

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Köhnlein nami – thina sasiyizine zokuqala – ngakolunye uhlangothi
lokho kuqinisekisa ukuthi ungathi, kulungile,

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okungenani angizange ngenze lokhu ngaphandle
kwesizathu, futhi kwakukhona nabanye abantu.

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Abazombusazwe babengafuni nje ukulalela.

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Futhi lokho kusiholela kulokho obekusho ngaso sonke isikhathi.

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Ngathi ekupheleni kukaMashi angicabangi ukuthi lokhu
kuyindaba ye-virus nhlobo, kodwa kuyindaba yezombusazwe.

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Bengishesha kakhulu emavidiyweni ami,
ngathi, ngisho, kumele ukuthi kwakungu-20 Mashi

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lapho ngathi, kukhona okunuka kakhulu lapha.

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Ngafunda emndenini wami ukuthi noma nini laphoabezindaba bebika
kuphela ngendlela eyodwa, kukhona ukuvinjelwa kolwazi

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okwenzeka endaweni ethile, futhi lokhu kuyasolisisa
kakhulu, ngisho nasezimbuso zobuphethe ngokuphelele.

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Futhi yingakho ngicabanga ukuthi ngangiwona wokuqala
ukuxwayisa ukuthi lokho okwenzeka lapha kungase kancane kancane

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kuthathe izimpawu zobuphathekayo, futhi ngabona lesi sixwayiso.

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Ngivela emndenini lapho umkhulu
wami aphila khona ezimpi ezimbili.

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Bengiseduze kakhulu naye, futhi iMpi Yezwe Yokuqala neyokwesibili
kwakuyizihloko zengxoxo endlini yethu. Besihlale

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sinegumbi elingaphansi komhlaba eligcwele izinto,
silungiselele imakethe emnyama nezinye izimo ezingaba khona.

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Ngakho-ke abazali bami babeyizilungiseleli ngenxa
yesipiliyoni sabo sempi, futhi ngaleyo ndlela ngaqaphela

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ukuthi empeleni kwakwenzekani kancane ngaphambi, yebo.

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Umlawuli: Yebo, kuthakazelisa kakhulu.

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Futhi usanda nje ukusho uMashi. Uthetha uMashi ka-2020, akunjalo?

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Bodo: Ividiyo yami yokuqala yayingomhla ka-14 Mashi 2020,
futhi ngomhla ka-20, kumele ngithi, kwacaca kimi ukuthi

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kwakuyibhubhane ohlelwe ngaphambili, hhayi ibhubhane langempela.

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Umlawuli: Yebo, kubi kakhulu.

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Ukuze sibuyele ezinhlelweni ze-RKI
ngendlela ecacile nangokuphathekayo.

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Manje usuqoqe imizuzu, noma lokho okutholile, wabeka
ebhukwini, noma ngempela wawubhala phansi ngokucacile.

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Yini ekumangaze kakhulu kulo lonke lolu cwaningo, noma manje
njengoba usubone izingxenye ezihlisiwe? Noma yiziphi izinto

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ezikubambe kakhulu, ongathi manje ziyizinto ezivelele kuwe siqu?

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Bodo: Ngikubonile lokhu, ngakho angibabeki icala
iqembu lochwepheshe le-RKI, ngoba benze konke abangakwenza.

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Uma babe bekhuluma ngomsindo omkhulu noma baphuma
ngaphandle ukuze babonise ukungavumelani, babe

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sebethathwa indawo ngabantu abangazange bayibhale kahle.

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Uma sibheka amaminithi avela eSwitzerland noma
e-Austria noma eminye imihlangano yezimo

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eziphuthumayo, awabucayi nhlobo njengalawo avela e-RKI.

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Laba basebenzi benza lokho nawe
okwenzayo e-Kla.TV: babhalela phansi.

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Uchaze ngokuningiliziwe ukuthi ubani othe
ini nokuthi nini, futhi uphinde waveza

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ngokusobala ukuthi ubheka isimo ngendlela ehlukile.

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Isibonelo sasiku-25 Mashi, lapho bathi
umugqa wokusabalala kwesifo wawuyacwenga, kanti

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lokhu kwakususelwa kule nani elibizwa nge-R.

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Kwakusele sekuzinzile mhla ziyi-25 kuMashi 2020, kodwa
lokho kwakungekho ukuze kwaziswe umhlaba wangaphandle.

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Bese, ngomhlaka 1 Ephreli, babuza,
ngabe konke kubi kangaka ngempela?

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Kwaqhubeka. Waqaphela ukuthi sasinezibhede
ezanele zamahhala ngemuva komhla ka-9 Ephreli.

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Isizathu esiyinhloko kube njalo ukuthi uhlelo
lwezempilo luzowela ngoba asinazo izibhede ezanele.

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Futhi i-RKI ithi sinezinqwaba zamabhedi zamahhala ezanele.

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Ngisho nasezimo ezimbi kakhulu, singasiza abantu
abavela kwamanye amazwe futhi samukele iziguli zabo.

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Yilokho ikomidi lochwepheshe eliphakamisile.

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Ikomidi lochwepheshe lalisivele liyazi ngomhlaka 27 Ephreli
ukuthi bekukhona ukumelana komzimba kwangaphambilini

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nokuthi cishe amaphesenti angama-40 abantu bonke babeyokumelana.

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Ngakho-ke into eyodwa ilandela enye.

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Wawusho eKhomishini ngomhlaka 29 Ephreli: ngisho nasesimweni
esibi kakhulu, ngeke kube nokwehla kakhulu kohlelo lwezempilo.

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Bekufanele sekuphelile.

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Futhi yilokho okufanayo engizame ukukwenza.

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Babehluphekile ngokuthi abantu abangazange
baxhumane nakho nhlobo babebalwa njengabashonile.

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Ngakho-ke zonke lezi zinto esizigxekile thina njengothisha,
futhi abezindaba abazimele nabo abazigxekile, sezidlulisiwe,

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zigxekiwe, zisekelwe futhi zibhalwe ngaphakathi e-RKI.

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Umlawuli: Yebo, futhi lezo yizihloko
ezivele enqubweni yokuchitha ubufakazi.

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Kodwa kwakungenzeka kanjani lokhu, Bodo, noma babebhale phansi
bathi amandla okwamukela abantu ayekhona,

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noma yini, yonke le mibhalo ebhalwe phansi,
izinyathelo zisathathwa ngokweqile kangaka?

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Kwenzekeni lapho? Lapho, masithi,
lezi ziphakamiso zangaphathwa kanjani?

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Bodo: Kushiwo izikhathi eziningi, ngisho nangamazwi ngqo.

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Ngakho-ke ungakwazi ukulanda lezi zinqubo.

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Ungavula kalula emfundini ye-PDF bese uzifuna.

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Bese uzobona ukuthi sekushiwo kaningi ukuthi isifiso
sezepolitiki kwabanqumayo ukuthi bafuna okuthile nezinye izinto.

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Ngakho-ke izifiso zezepolitiki
zacaciswa futhi kwadingeka ukuthi ziqhutshwe.

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I-RKI empeleni yayinendaba, futhi ngikholwa ukuthi lokhu kwacaca
kwabanye abasebenzi ngokuhamba kwesikhathi;

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okungenani ngiyihumusha kanjalo izimpendulo zabo,
ukuthi basetshenziswa lapha njenge-alibi kuphela.

13:36.720 --> 13:43.140
Futhi yingakho babhale phansi konke ngokucophelela kangaka,
ngoba babengafuni ekugcineni basetshenziswe njenge-alibi.

13:43.140 --> 13:50.680
Abanye kini nisho ngisho ukuthi sifuna lokhu
kukhishwa ngaphandle, ukuthi asivumelani nakho.

13:50.680 --> 13:54.860
Isibonelo, maqondana namamaski, bathi ngqo lokho.

13:54.860 --> 14:01.260
Futhi uma usesimweni esinjalo, babeyinye
nje yezinhlangano eziningi zokweluleka.

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Kodwa kuba sobala ngokuphelele ukuthi izinqumo zazipolitiki.

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Isifiso sezepolitiki sokuhlolwa, kusho ngomhlaka 29 Juni 2020.

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Sihlala sikhuluma ngesiqalo.

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Sibheka ngempela ukuthi singazithola kuphi izimo ezengeziwe.

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Singakwenza kanjani lokho?

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Konke lokhu kungenxa yokucindezelwa kwabezepolitiki.

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Futhi lokho kuyahlanya.

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Ezinye zezibizo zisho ngisho lapha. Lapho abezepolitiki bethi le
nani lokuqala lwezigameko, eyagcina

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isetshenziswa ukusekela imikhawulo yokuhamba nokunye
okufana nalokho, kwakuyinto eyadalwa abezepolitiki.

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Akukholakali.

14:37.873 --> 14:42.420
Lezi zingqimba eziyizikilomitha ezinhlanu
ongazihambeli ngaphakathi kwazo ziyizifanekiso zezepolitiki.

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Baphoswe.

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Ukuhlolwa kwamanzi angcolile sekwenqatshiwe.

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Zonke lezi zinto sezilahlwe ngokuphelele.

14:49.824 --> 14:53.861
Eqinisweni, ngicabanga ukuthi into ehlekisa
kakhulu ngakho kuwukuhlolwa ezikhumulweni zezindiza.

14:53.861 --> 14:56.199
Ngisho ukuhlolwa kokushisa komzimba ababekwenza lapho.

14:56.199 --> 14:58.733
I-RKI ithi akubalulekile.

14:58.733 --> 15:01.320
Lokho ngeke kusebenze.

15:01.320 --> 15:02.833
Umlawuli: Nakho kukhona lapho, akunjalo?

15:02.833 --> 15:04.693
Bodo: Yilokho okushiwo, igama negama.

15:04.693 --> 15:07.540
Umlawuli: Yebo, akukholakali.

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Kodwa lokho futhi kusho ukuthi, noma ngempela, umbuzo
uthi, ngabe kukhona okuthile lapho mayelana nemijovo yokugoma?

15:13.460 --> 15:15.286
Ngoba ekugcineni bavela.

15:15.286 --> 15:21.540
Kwathi-ke kwathiwa ukuthi noma ugonyelwe noma ushone,
ukufingqa ngokushesha. Ogonyelwe, ophilile noma oshonile.

15:21.540 --> 15:23.776
Ngicabanga ukuthi lokho kwakuyisisho.

15:23.776 --> 15:28.513
Ingabe kwathathwa isikhundla ngalokhu kule minithi?

15:28.513 --> 15:35.380
Bodo: Lena enye yezigameko
ezihlazisayo eyabonakala ngokusobala lapha.

15:35.380 --> 15:40.780
Kwacaca ukuthi kuzoba nokufa ngenxa yemijovo yokugoma.

15:40.780 --> 15:52.780
Futhi ngaleso sikhathi, bekufanele bayeke, ngoba kwakuphikisana
nokuhlaziywa kwe-RKI ngokwayo ngengozi ebangelwa yilesi sifo.

15:52.780 --> 15:56.713
Babeyazi ukuthi bekukhona imiphumela emibi emikhulu.

15:56.713 --> 16:04.980
Kweminye imicimbi, izimo eziyi-1,600 zemiphumela
engemihle zabikwa ePaul Ehrlich Institute ngosuku olulodwa.

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Kodwa-ke yaqhubeka noma kunjalo.

16:07.746 --> 16:16.113
Kwakucacile ukuthi kwakungekho nhlobo isipiliyoni ngemijovo
ye-mRNA nokuthi lokhu kwakuyinkambu entsha ngokuphelele.

16:16.113 --> 16:24.780
Futhi lapha kwenziwa isivivinyo ensimini kubantu,
engibona ukuthi angeke sikwazi ukusekelwa lutho ngokomthetho.

16:24.780 --> 16:30.520
Futhi mina ngokwami ngibeka ingxenye enkulu yokugxeka odokotela.

16:30.520 --> 16:39.420
Ngoba uma ufaka abantu into engaziwa,
lokho kuwukungenelela ngokomzimba ngempela.

16:39.420 --> 16:50.686
Futhi udokotela wahlabela izigidi zabantu into ethile wathola
imali eningi ngalokho, ngaphandle kokuba nephakethe lemiyalelo.

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Zaziyizikhwama ezingenalutho.

16:51.866 --> 16:54.912
Kufanele ngempela uyivumele ukuthi ingene engqondweni yakho.

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Izifaka zephakheji ezingenalutho

16:56.600 --> 17:04.320
Udokotela uyazisa isiguli ngalokho okumele akwenze, noma ngabe
esebenza ngokusemthethweni, okungeke akwazi ukukwenza nhlobo.

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Udokotela akanakusebenza ngokusemthethweni ngaphandle
kokuba esebenza emabuthweni ezempi noma emabuthweni amaphoyisa.

17:09.565 --> 17:13.386
Ngaphandle kwalokho, akunakwenzeka ngoba
ukuba udokotela kuyiphrofeshini ezimele.

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Futhi ngokwemithetho yobungcweti, odokotela
abavunyelwe ukwamukela imiyalelo evela kubantu abangewodokotela.

17:19.115 --> 17:20.620
Akavunyelwe ukwenza lokho.

17:20.620 --> 17:26.002
Futhi uphoqelekile ngaphansi kweKhodi
yaseNuremberg, iKhodi yaseHelsinki kanye nekhodi

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yokuziphatha kwezokwelapha ukwazisa abantu.

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Futhi mayelana nezingozi ezingase zibe khona.

17:31.233 --> 17:37.853
I-Pfizer yayazi ngezingozi futhi yazisa ohulumeni
ngalokhu ukuze ithole imvume yesimo esiphuthumayo.

17:37.853 --> 17:41.800
Kodwa abazange banikezwe odokotela; kunalokho, bavinjwa.

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futhi kwadingeka ukuba ikhishwe
ngokomthetho ngaphansi koMthetho Wenkululeko Yolwazi.

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Futhi zikhishwa kancane kancane kuphela.

17:48.520 --> 17:57.726
Futhi siyazi kulezi zirekhodi ukuthi odokotela lapha
bagonyela into ethile bengazi nhlobo ukuthi yini abayigonyela.

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Yayiyini isizinda sabo sesayensi?

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Abazange babe nakho nhlobo!

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Bekukhona abezepolitiki abathi lokhu kusebenza
kahle, kuyashesha, kuphephile futhi kuvikela kunoma yini.

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Futhi akukho kulokho okwakuyiqiniso.

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Lezo zaziyizimanga.

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Lokho kuyahlanya.

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Ngakho-ke odokotela, ikakhulukazi uma manje ngicabanga ngemaskhi,
kukhona futhi abantu abasebenza kwezokwelapha emsebenzini.

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Ngakho-ke zonke izinkampani ezinkulu
zinebolekile ukuba namadokotela omsebenzi.

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Kukhona abantu abathola imali yabo, isibonelo, ngokuhlola
ukuthi umuntu ufanelekile yini ukugqoka imaski noma cha.

18:37.313 --> 18:41.042
Kwabe kufanele bayihlasele, kodwa abazange bayihlasele!

18:41.042 --> 18:46.480
Futhi wonke la maphuzu ayabonakala kumafayela e-RKI.

18:46.480 --> 18:51.586
Lokho kusho ukuthi ungabona kumafayela e-RKI ukuthi
kaningi kangakanani futhi ngokuzithiba kanjani

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i-RKI ithi cha, ukugqoka amamaski kuwumbono wobuwula.

18:54.060 --> 19:04.064
Bafuna ngisho ukuthi amamaski anikezwe kuphela odokotela
ngokubhalwa kwemithi, nokuthi odokotela kumele bahlolisise iziguli

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ukuze banqume ukuthi zifanele yini ukugqoka imaski ye-FFP2.

19:08.736 --> 19:14.400
Kanti-ke uMnu Söder uvela athi
imaski ze-FFP2 manje seziyimpoqo lapha.

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Yize kwakucacile ukuthi amamaski e-FFP2, uma
ayenikeza noma yiluphi uhlobo lokuvikelwa,

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ayengasebenzi kahle njengamamaski wokuhlinzwa.

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Lokho bekuyezombusazwe.

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... Kwakukhona umuntu owayehlala ethi kwakuyimaskhi yesisebenzi.

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Yilokho nje.

19:30.993 --> 19:36.080
Lokho kwakuyisibonakaliso
esibonakalayo sokulalela phakathi kwabantu.

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Kwakuyileyo maski.

19:37.413 --> 19:39.300
Futhi lokho kuyabonakala eziminithini.

19:39.300 --> 19:49.393
Kodwa i-RKI, njengoba uMnu Wieler ephindisile, futhi
ulungile ngalokhu, ayikaze ibe nomsebenzi wokuphatha.

19:49.393 --> 19:50.440
Umlawuli: Yebo, kuyathakazelisa kakhulu.

19:50.440 --> 19:58.656
Bodo: Futhi le mizuzu, ngokwemvelo, yathunyelwa kubo
bonke ababekhulunywe ngabo kuyo, njengaye uJens Spahn.

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Ngakho-ke ulwazi lwalutholakala, vele.

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Futhi iBundeswehr yathola ulwazi, impela.

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Futhi Ihhovisi likaChancellor kanye noMnyango
Kazwelonke Wezempilo bakuthola lokho, impela.

20:08.300 --> 20:17.344
Lokho kusho ukuthi ochwepheshe bakahulumeni
abazange banakwa, ngoba i-RKI ayiyona inhlangano ezimele,

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iyisikhungo sikahulumeni, futhi abazange balalelwe.

20:23.066 --> 20:30.860
Kunalokho, kwenziwa okuthile, okwamanje, impela...
kahle, kulabo abakuqondayo, konke akunzima ukukuchaza.

20:30.860 --> 20:40.460
Ababukeli be-Kla.TV nabo ngokuvamile bayazi kahle ukuthi le nto
yokugoma ayizange yakhiwe ngenxa yegciwane, kodwa kunalokho

20:40.460 --> 20:47.952
igciwane lakhiwa ngenxa yokugoma okwakukhona kakade,
kusho uReiner Füllmich, engingathi uboshiwe

20:47.952 --> 20:53.840
njengomuntu oboshwe ngenxa yezombusazwe ejele laseJalimane.

20:53.840 --> 20:55.106
Umlawuli: Yebo, kuyinto egqame kakhulu.

20:55.106 --> 21:02.478
Ngakho-ke ngiyamangala kakhulu ukuthi abantu abafana nawe,
abavela emkhakheni wezokwelapha noma abazidokotela, banendlela

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esebenzayo kangaka. Nginesithombe esivela ku-Wikipedia
engqondweni yami, lapho ume ungagqoki imaski

21:08.509 --> 21:14.073
phambi kweqembu lamaphoyisa, bonke begqoke
ngokuphelele izimaski ze-FFP2 nezimaski zokuzivikela.

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Ngakho-ke, ngendlela ethile, kudinga isibindi
esithile ukusho ukuthi, kulungile, ngingudokotela,

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kodwa manje ngiyazibuza ukuthi yini ebhalelwa lapha.

21:22.866 --> 21:27.264
Ezombusazwe, useke wathi kaningi manje, kodwa ngicabanga
nokuthi nakumajelo ezeindaba, ingabe lokho kungaba kulungile?

21:27.264 --> 21:32.941
Eziteshini zezindaba, kwakungathi iziteshi ezinkulu zezindaba
azizange zenze ucwaningo olubanzi lapho. Babengakwazi ukuvunguza

21:32.941 --> 21:35.760
umnyango we-RKI bese bebabuza, "Heyi, isimo sikhona kanjani?"

21:35.760 --> 21:38.440
Uyancoma kanjani lokho? Iyini uhlelo manje?

21:38.440 --> 21:46.200
Kodwa konke empeleni kwakuphathwa ngendlela eyodwa, lapho wabona
ukuthi kwakungekho thuba lokungavumelani

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ezinkundleni zezindaba zomphakathi noma ngisho
nochwepheshe, odokotela, ababecabanga ngendlela evamile.

21:54.480 --> 21:58.868
Bodo: Sasungula iqembu ngesikhathi sokuvala ngoba
uMthetho Wezinhlangano Zabezepolitiki ubaluleke

21:58.868 --> 22:01.220
kakhulu kunoMthetho Wokuvikela Ekuthelelekeni futhi

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Sazama ngale ndlela ukubona ukuthi
singahlangana yini nokunye okunjalo.

22:04.780 --> 22:10.400
Lokho empeleni kwakuyinhloso eyisisekelo ye-Resistance 2020.

22:10.400 --> 22:17.560
Kwathi-ke ithimba lethelevishini lafika kithi
ekuqeqeshweni ukuze lixoxe noRalf Ludwig nami.

22:17.560 --> 22:24.873
Kwathi-ke kwavela umuntu osishayela wathi
ungowaleqembu, kulo qembu, nokuthi abantu abane babeza.

22:24.873 --> 22:28.220
Umuntu oyedwa ongamethemba yikhamera.

22:28.220 --> 22:32.880
Bonke abanye baye baqondiswa ukuthi bakubonise njengezamaNazi.

22:32.880 --> 22:35.386
Bazobeka izibamba kuwe.

22:35.386 --> 22:41.993
Sicela usethe ikhamera futhi
uphikelele ekurekhodeni ividiyo yonke.

22:41.993 --> 22:43.660
Futhi yilokho esikwenzile.

22:43.660 --> 22:50.960
Futhi sirekhoda le vidiyo, kanti
uhlelo lwangempela alukaze lusakazwe.

22:50.960 --> 22:52.679
Lokho kwakuyisibonelo esisodwa.

22:52.679 --> 22:58.520
Kwabe sekufika isiteshi esihamba phambili sikamabonakude
saseFrance sangivakashela sangingibuzisisa ngalesi sihloko.

22:58.520 --> 23:05.264
Ekugcineni wangitshela wathi, bathi
bekufanele ngikunikeze ingxoxo ngoba uphithizela.

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Kodwa awulanga, ulungile.

23:08.460 --> 23:10.645
Lolu hlelo nalo alusakazwanga.

23:10.645 --> 23:16.200
Wabe esehlangana nami futhi eBerlin ngomhlaka
1 Agasti wathi manje ngisekuseceleni kwakho.

23:16.200 --> 23:18.280
Ngashiya isiteshi.

23:18.280 --> 23:21.440
Kodwa lezo zindaba nje ozitshela eziteshini zezindaba.

23:21.440 --> 23:29.747
Sithole incwadi yangaphakathi evela ku-rbb. Futhi
le ncwadi yathi, ngisho ngisho, nganginayo le

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ncwadi, ngeke kube nokubika okuthambekele eCorona.

23:35.060 --> 23:42.545
Ngakho-ke, umyalo ovela kumqondisi-jikelele kubo
bonke abalobi bezindaba nezintatheli: ngeke

23:42.545 --> 23:47.206
kuvunyelwe ukubika okuthambisa ubungozi be-coronavirus.

23:47.206 --> 23:48.999
Kwakukhona ukuhlungwa kolwazi kusukela ekuqaleni.

23:48.999 --> 23:51.151
Kwakukhona indlela ecacile yokwenza izinto.

23:51.151 --> 23:55.820
Futhi njengoba ngishilo, singabona emaminithini
ukuthi konke lokhu akukaze kufakazelwe ngokwesayensi.

23:55.820 --> 23:58.460
Akukaze kufakwe nhlobo.

23:58.460 --> 24:04.246
Ngakho-ke yilokho ngempela
esikutholile thina njengothisha kulezi zinombolo.

24:04.246 --> 24:06.393
Sasisebenzisa kuphela izinombolo ezisemthethweni.

24:06.393 --> 24:07.986
Sithathe izinombolo ku-RKI.

24:07.986 --> 24:12.866
Sithathe izinombolo ezivela eJohns
Hopkins futhi sihlaziye konke lokhu.

24:12.866 --> 24:16.580
Ngahlaziya lokho ngokuzithiba nsuku zonke ohlelweni lwami.

24:16.580 --> 24:23.616
Futhi lokho okwashiwo nguhulumeni
kwakuphambene kakhulu nalokho okwabonakala ezibalo.

24:23.616 --> 24:31.745
Umlawuli: Yebo, kuyamangaza ngempela ukucabanga ukuthi into
enjengale ingaba kanjani, lokho okuchazayo manje ngezindaba.

24:31.745 --> 24:39.806
Ngisho, sesibone lokhu kwenzeka kaningi, ukuthi
amazwi aphikisayo noma ezinye izimvo azivunyelwe.

24:39.806 --> 24:45.765
Ochwepheshe, abake babe ochwepheshe, ososayensi
abahlonishwa kakhulu ngisho nochwepheshe bezimali ngokuzumayo,

24:45.765 --> 24:49.312
masithi, baba izilima ngokuphelele; yilokho abakuboniswa ngakho.

24:49.312 --> 24:54.920
AmaNazi, njengoba wawusho ngaphambilini, yilapho
amaqembu nokubekwa ezigabeni kuvela khona ukuze bawacwase.

24:54.920 --> 24:59.620
Ngokucacile, ucabanga ukuthi into enjengale ingenzeke kanjani?

24:59.620 --> 25:01.020
Imicu ihlangana kuphi?

25:01.020 --> 25:07.280
Ngoba empeleni kuwudaka olungenathemba. Noma-ke,
ngakolunye uhlangothi, kuphathwa kahle kancane.

25:07.280 --> 25:14.349
uma imithombo yezindaba inkulu empeleni ikwazile
ukucindezela zonke izindaba eziveza umbono ohlukile, noma

25:14.349 --> 25:18.080
ukuthonya ezombusazwe ngendlela yokuthi wonke umuntu alandele.

25:18.080 --> 25:21.720
Lokho kuyahlanya.

25:21.720 --> 25:26.286
Bodo: Kufanele uqonde, ngangijwayelekile kuze kube ngu-2020.

25:26.286 --> 25:27.900
Bengingazi lutho ngalokho.

25:27.900 --> 25:39.226
Lokho kwakungekho nhlobo... Yebo, konke engikushoyo namuhla
kwakuyizwi elingahlangene kimi futhi angikwazanga ukukubikezela.

25:39.226 --> 25:45.000
Kufanele uqonde ukuthi empeleni
sinabaphathi bezepolitiki abangathathi zinqumo nhlobo.

25:45.000 --> 25:52.512
Futhi kunokurekhodwa okuhle kakhulu kukaHorst
Seehofer okusho ukuthi labo abakhethiwe abanandaba

25:52.512 --> 25:56.840
kulolu daba, kanti labo abenza izinqumo abakhethwanga.

25:56.840 --> 25:59.340
WayenguNgqongqoshe Wezempilo.

25:59.340 --> 26:07.230
Lena yisitatimende esivela ngqo kumuntu owayenguNgqongqoshe
kahulumeni kazwelonke, owangena kulesi simo

26:07.230 --> 26:15.873
mhlawumbe ngomdlandla omkhulu nangenhloso enhle
kakhulu, ecabanga ukuthi manje ngizoshintsha izinto.

26:15.873 --> 26:18.180
wabona ukuthi wayengeke akwazi ukukwenza.

26:18.180 --> 26:23.613
Lokhu kusho ukuthi empeleni sinohulumeni
wethunzi, futhi ngokusobala usebenza emhlabeni wonke.

26:23.613 --> 26:29.055
Futhi ngokushesha nje lapho umpolitiki
esesikhundleni, umuntu uza kuye egqoke isudi

26:29.055 --> 26:33.120
ehlakaniphile futhi umnikela ngezinketho ezahlukene.

26:33.120 --> 26:40.046
Yebo, lokho kungabonakala, isibonelo, njengokuthi
ethi, yebo, mhlawumbe manje usuwazi uJohn F. Kennedy.

26:40.046 --> 26:43.552
Ngesinye isikhathi, naye wayeka ukudlala ndawonye.

26:43.552 --> 26:46.314
Uyazi ukuthi senza kanjani ngaleso sikhathi?

26:46.314 --> 26:47.620
Kulungile, yebo.

26:47.620 --> 26:52.173
Noma uMnu. Ohoven noma uMnu.
Barschel noma omunye umuntu ofana nalabo.

26:52.173 --> 26:54.960
Lokho kusho ukuthi kufanele ngempela
ukucabanga ngakho ngaleyo ndlela ecacile kangaka.

26:54.960 --> 27:01.195
Abantu abangena kuhulumeni, ezimweni
eziningi, bayakuthanda ngempela – hhayi bonke,

27:01.195 --> 27:04.120
kodwa abanye – futhi bangena ngendlela efanele.

27:04.120 --> 27:13.103
Kwathi-ke kwavela omunye umuntu wathi kubo, "Kuhle ukuthi
ucabanga ukuthi kusebenza kanjalo, kodwa empeleni, mngane wami,

27:13.103 --> 27:21.740
lokhu akuyona idemokhrasi. Esikhundleni salokho, sikhokhela
uMnu. S. le mali, uNkk. B. le mali, noMnu. H. le mali."

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futhi benza lokho esikufunayo
ngoba sinamavidiyo abo athakazelisayo.

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Futhi, Bodo, njengoba sikhuluma
ngamavidiyo, uyakhumbula lowo msitho?

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Iphuzu, iphuzu, iphuzu.

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Lokho kusho ukuthi udala ukuncika, futhi ngokuhamba
kwesikhathi kwavela okuthile, njengase-World Economic

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Forum, lapho baqeqesha khona izikhulu zabo bese nje bezifaka.

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Ngisho, njengamanje siyabona isibonelo
esihle kakhulu salokhu kuNksz von der Leyen.

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Yebo, bonke empeleni bayaphikisa ukuthi aqhubeke nokuhola i-EU,
lapho angayalela khona izigidigidi ngomlayezo wombhalo, ngokuthi

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nje. Akucabangiwe, ngokuphelele akuhambisani nentando yeningi.

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Ngokuvamile bekufanele ahlale ejele elijulile
kunawo wonke, kodwa esikhundleni salokho uphinde abe

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uMongameli we-EU, futhi yilokho ngempela okwenzekayo.

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Ngamanye amazwi, lapha ungabona ukuthi izidlaliso ziqeqeshwa
bese zisatshalaliswa kuzo zonke iziphalamende, ukuze uKlaus

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Schwab akwazi ukuhlala phansi athi uyangenela iziphalamende.

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futhi ingxenye enkulu yamapharamente
yayivele iyizinkokheli zomhlaba ezintsha naye.

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Lokho kuwukugeza ingqondo.

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Lokho kusho ukuthi laba bantu babekwe kulesi
simo, futhi vele unenzuzo engabi khona kwabanye.

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Ake sicabange ukuthi sinomqhudelwano
weYurophu ongokoqobo oqhubeka eJalimane njengamanje.

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futhi-ke une umdlalo webhola lezinyawo, masithi, eFrankfurt

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futhi-ke unenqaba yokundiza ebusuku eFrankfurt

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Futhi-ke uzoba uNgqongqoshe Wezangaphandle
ongokoqobo ongakhwela indiza engokoqobo naphezu

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kwesivimbelo sokundiza ebusuku, bese uzindizela eLuxembourg.

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Ungakwenzile lokho ngemoto, akukude kangako.

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Ngakho-ke, nakuba abadlali bebhola lezinyawo enkundleni
bengavunyelwe ukwenza kanjalo kulo

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mqhudelwano weYurophu oqondweni, uNgqongqoshe
Wezangaphandle oqondweni uyavunyelwa ukwenza kanjalo.

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Futhi ujabulele lezi zinzuzo ezinjalo: unejethi yakho yangasese
enkulu njenge-Boeing, hhayi nje into encane

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efana naleyo uBill Gates ayindizayo, kodwa
undiza ngesizimoto sezindiza sikahulumeni.

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Awusoze uphinde ulahlekelwe isikhundla esinjalo.

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Ngesikhathi sokundiza, ungacela umdwebi wakho wobuso ongu-137,000
euro, okufanele ngempela akhokhelwe

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izinkokhelo ezengeziwe zasebusuku, ukuthi akulungise
futhi ukuze ubukeke kahle lapho ufika eLuxembourg.

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Akulungile.

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Uma siqhubeka sinika abezepolitiki izinzuzo ezifana
nokungadingeki bahlale ezithibeni zezimoto

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nokuvunyelwa ukuba bahambe ngama-jumbo jet ngesikhathi
kuvinjelwe izindiza ebusuku, lokhu kuzoqhubeka kwenzeka.

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Ngoba uma usesimweni esinjalo futhi mhlawumbe
awukakayinqamuli isikole, kodwa ngeshwa

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uyinhloko yeqembu elithile, awusoze ufuna ukuyilahla.

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Futhi ngemva kokusebenza isikhathi esisodwa esikhundleni, uthola
umhlalaphansi ophakeme kunalowo osebenze impilo yakhe yonke.

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Akulungile lokho, futhi inqobo nje uma abezepolitiki
beqhubeka bezijabulela lezi zinzuzo, ngeke sishintshe lutho.

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Umlawuli: Yebo, ngiyabonga. Hhayi-ke,
incazelo enhle impela. Inikeza isithombe esiphelele.

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Konke kungamanga nje, vele,
kuhlanganise noNgqongqoshe Wezangaphandle.

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Angicabangi ukuthi kukhona umuntu
owaziyo ngokunembile ukuthi usho ukuthini.

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Ngakho-ke uma sithatha laba abahamba phambili njengesisekelo
sethu, ngizobabiza nje abantu abanelungelo lokwenza lezi

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zinqumo; ngithi abezepolitiki, abacindezela imithombo yezindaba,
noma ngisho nje ngithi bashayela phambili izinhlelo zabo.

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Uyini umbono wakho ngesivumelwano somhlaba
wonke se-WHO sokubhekana nobhubhane?

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Ingabe manje sesingasasekho ohlwini lokukhethwa?

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Ngabe kukhona okwengeziwe okuzayo?

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Noma konke lokhu ekugcineni kuzodluliselwa
ngasemnyango wangemuva ngamazwe, ukuze sonke

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sigcine sicabanga, yeh, ekugcineni ngeke kwenzeke?

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Ucabanga ukuthi kuzokwenzekani ngokulandelayo?

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Bodo: Ngeshwa, abezepolitiki abanakho nhlobo
ukuthakazelela lokho esikwenzayo. Esikhundleni

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salokho, balandela umbhalo, futhi lo mbhalo udlalwa.

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Futhi uma ungabaza, ufaka okunye phakathi noma udlulisa umthetho
usebenzisa inqubo ye-omnibus, ngakho manje, ngaphezu kokunyuswa

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komholo kwabasebenzi bezikole zingane, nithi
futhi siyenza imijovo yomuthi kube yimpoqo,

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futhi ngasikhathi sinye siyigcwalisa leyo nto.

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Lezi zinto empeleni zivinjwe, kodwa ngesikhathi sobhubhane
imithetho yayihlala idlula ngokushesha ezinqubweni ze-omnibus.

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Lokho kusho ukuthi ngeke ngisho uqaphele.

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Ngesinye isikhathi, kwakuzoba yinyaniso futhi abantu ngeke
bayibuze, ngoba-ke i-ARD, i-ZDF nabasolwa abajwayelekile babeza

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bathi, yebo, yilokho okwenzekile ekuvotweni
komphakathi, iqembu labantwana abancane

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eBuxtehude linqume kanjalo, yingakho manje sekunjalo.

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Umlawuli: Yebo, kuyathakazelisa.

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Ngakho-ke usho ukuthi lolu hlelo luzoqhubeka lulandelwa.

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Manje siyabona ukuthi sithola imininingwane evela yonke
indawo okwamanje, okungukuthi nge-pandemic X noma

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i-Corona 2.0. Kunezinto eziningi kakhulu ezifika okwamanje.

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Ngisho, kuyacaca ngokuphelele ukuthi uma sebeqedile ngempumelelo
ukudlala ingxenye yobhubhane onjengalona futhi

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ingxoxo yokubuyekeza ingakenzeki okwamanje, kumele
iqhubeke kwenye indawo. Lokho nakho kuyacaca ngokuphelele.

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Umbuzo nje ukuthi, uyilinganisa kanjani, lokho kwenzeka kanjani?

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Bodo: Ngakho-ke lokho esikubonayo
kuyinguqulo ephezulu kakhulu yokwahlukanisa nokubusa.

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Lokho kusho ukuthi kunabantu lapha abavule
amaphuzu amaningi kangangokuba ubuntu sebubhujiswe

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ngokuphelele futhi bahlukaniswe babe amakamu ahlukene.

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Kukhona abakholelwa ku-Disease X, kukhona
abakholelwa ku-bird flu, omunye umuntu ukholelwa

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ku-monkeypox, omunye umuntu ukholelwa entweni engingazi.

32:42.760 --> 32:49.846
Lokho kusho ukuthi labo abangabandakanyeki kulokhu, nina
nibathatha nendaba yempi yase-Ukraine, i-Israel nezinye izindaba.

32:49.846 --> 32:53.393
Lokho kusho ukuthi manje usuwuvule umehluko ophezulu.

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Lokhu kusho ukuthi manje sebazame konke
okusemandleni abo ukuhlukanisa abantu.

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Futhi kumele ngisho, baphumelele.

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Ngakho-ke lapho ngibheka lokhu, ngibona abantu abaningi bephuma
emigwaqweni beziveza ukungavumelani kwabo nabantu abangakaze

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babaphikisele iminyaka emine. Okukhethekile
ngeQuerdenken, Querdenker nemibhikisho yami

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kwakuwukuthi asikaze sibe nemibhikisho yokuphikisa.

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Abantu ngempela bayibukele ngentshisekelo, kodwa-ke,
njengoba sesishilo izikhathi ezimbalwa, kudlalwa ikhadi

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lamaNazi, bese okubi kakhulu, abantu bayakholelwa kukho.

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Yilokho okungajwayelekile

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Ngakho-ke ungabe wawenza umkhuba endaweni ethile lapho
wawuyiJalimane oyedwa ngoba bonke abanye babengabokufika,

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kodwa-ke kwavela umuntu wathi ngokuzumayo ukuthi ungumNazi.

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Kuyamangalisa.

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Kubuhlungu ekuqaleni, kuze kube sekugcineni
uqonda ukuthi umhlaba usebenza ngendlela ehlukile.

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bese ungakwazi ukubhekana nakho ngokuzumayo

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kodwa esikubona lapha kuwukudideka okuphelele nje,

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futhi akubalulekile ukuthi woyesaba ini.

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Futhi manje wamukelekile ukungena ebhubhuleni yethu.

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Ngakho-ke uma manje usebubhuleni bethu, usaba ukulahlekelwa
yizicubu, imisebe yasemkhathini, noma yini engazi ukuthi iyini.

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Ngakho-ke ngaphakathi kwebhubhu
yethu, ukwesaba okuningi kuyavuswa.

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Futhi yingakho ngithi sizoba nezinkinga zokukhipha
amanzi echibini, ngoba thina uqobo sesijule kulo.

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Umlawuli: Yebo. Ngakho-ke lo mthetho
wokwahlukanisa nokubusa uyiphuzu elithakazelisayo kakhulu.

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Njengoba sisondela ekupheleni kwengxoxo yethu, noma ngempela
embuzweni wokugcina, ngingathanda kakhulu ukwazi ukuthi ungathini

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umyalezo ofuna ukuwudlulisa kubabukeli ngenxa yazo
zonke lezi zinkinga, izimo eziphuthumayo kanye

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nazo zonke izinto ezenzekile manje ezisiphambi kwethu.

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Kungaba yini lokho, lapho ungathi lokho kungaba
isincomo sami sezokwelapha, ukudlulisela kanjalo?

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Unganikeza izeluleko ezibukelayo ngalesi sikhathi?

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Bodo: Kulungile, okokuqala, ngicabanga ukuthi sonke sizofa.

34:57.400 --> 35:00.384
Bodo: Kodwa hhayi ku-coronavirus futhi hhayi ku-Isifo X.

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Ngakho-ke ngizongeza kulokho engikushilo kuvidiyo yami yokuqala.

35:04.256 --> 35:10.320
Futhi-ke kukhona ingoma emangalisayo eyenziwe
umuntu obizwa ngokuthi Mathias Family and Friends.

35:10.320 --> 35:12.720
futhi unengoma ebizwa ngokuthi "Stand Up".

35:12.720 --> 35:21.213
Futhi engingakusho kubabukeli bami noma
kubabukeli bakho ukuthi, nime niphakamise amazwi enu.

35:21.213 --> 35:24.953
Vuka ubonise ubuso bakho!

35:24.953 --> 35:34.379
Futhi lokho bekuyoba yinto okufanele siyibone, ukuthi akuncike
kuMathias Ebert noma kuKla.TV noma kuIvo Sasek futhi akuncike

35:34.379 --> 35:39.420
kuBodo Schiffmann, kodwa kunabantu abasibukelayo okwamanje.

35:39.420 --> 35:40.100
Umlawuli: Kuhle kakhulu.

35:40.100 --> 35:49.859
Bodo: Uma beqhubeka besiphatha sengathi singuMnu. Lanz noma
ngubani, futhi besisebenzisa nje, akukho okuzoshintsha.

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Esikhundleni salokho, sidinga abantu abaningi abazomile
ngokuqinile esiphepho lapho bekungabaza, ukuze zonke

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izizwe ekugcineni zibone uNkulunkulu ngaphakathi kwazo.

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Umlawuli: Ngingasho kuphela amen kulokho!

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Bodo othandekayo, lokho bekuyisisho sokuvala esihle kakhulu.

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Ngicabanga ukuthi futhi kuyumyalezo omuhle kakhulu kubabukeli,
wokuthi akufanele balahle ithemba ngakho konke lokhu.

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Kungakhathaliseki ukuthi singaphakathi noma ngaphandle kwebhubhu
lethu, kukhona ithemba ukuthi ngelinye ilanga le bhubhu

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lizonyamalala futhi abantu bazobuyela emqondweni wabo wobumbano.

36:23.906 --> 36:28.220
Ngicabanga ukuthi kuyamangalisa indlela oziphatha
ngayo izinto, nokuthi ufika kanjani enhliziyweni yendaba.

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Ngiyabonga kakhulu ngale ngxoxo.

36:30.953 --> 36:33.600
Ngikholelwa ukuthi sizokuqhubeka, sizohamba phambili.

36:33.600 --> 36:38.233
Njengoba ngishilo, ususe izingxenye
zama-protocole e-RKI, ngakho-ke sizohlala siqapha lokho.

36:38.233 --> 36:41.220
Awukwazi ukufaka into enjalo ohlelweni, akunakwenzeka.

36:41.220 --> 36:44.586
Kodwa ngiyabonga ngokuyihlaziya
ngokucophelela kangaka njengodokotela.

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Ngingathi ngisho nezakhamuzi ezijwayelekile njengathi
zingaqonda kancane ukuthi empeleni kwenzekeni lapho.

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Futhi ngikholelwa ukuthi lokhu kubaluleke
kakhulu kangangokuthi kuzosisiza ukuthi

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sizwisise okwenzekile esikhathini esedlule kamuva.

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Ngakho-ke, ngiyabonga kakhulu futhi, ngikufisela okuhle
kakhulu, futhi ngibheke ngabomvu ingxoxo yethu elandelayo.

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Bodo: Ngiyabonga ngomemo, bekumnandi.

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Umethuli: Zinake, Bodo!