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Ho thata haholo sethaleng se bulehileng joalo, hobane
e ka ba hore o shebe ka lehlakoreng leo 'me ba bone

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feela mokokotlo oa hao, kapa o shebe ka lehlakoreng leo.

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Hantle, joale ho setse feela bankakarolo ba kopano ena.

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Pele ho tsohle, ke thabile haholo hore ebe bohle le teng.

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Kea leboha haholo.

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Dumela, Berlin.

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Lumelang bohle ba tsoang likarolong tsohle tsa Jeremane.

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Ke kopilwe ho bua mantswe a seng makae ka
taba ya thuto kapa ho amohela tse fetileng.

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Ke hobaneng ha ke lokela ho bua ka ho amohela tse fetileng?

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Moqolotsi oa litaba oa SWR o sa tsoa botsa potso ena
nakong ea seboka sa rona sa boralitaba se sa reroang mona.

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Moqolotsi oa litaba oa SWR o ile a botsa
Monghali Ballweg, "Hantle-ntle ke hobane'ng ha

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u batla ho sekaseka nako e fetileng bocha?"

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Ba batla ho hlahloba bocha hantle eng?

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Kaha Michael o se a fane ka karabo, nka
rata ho fana ka karabo ea ka hape sethaleng.

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Nka re ho mosebetsi-'moho le 'na oa SWR:

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Hobaneng o sa botse Paul Schreier?

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Botsa Aya Velasquez.

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Botsa Ngaka Christian Hafner.

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Botsa ba sebetsang e le baqolotsi ba litaba, eseng ba mecha ea
phatlalatso e ka sehloohong kapa e

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tloaelehileng, ho sa tsotellehe hore na u ka e bitsa
joang, empa e le baqolotsi ba litaba ba ikemetseng.

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Ba sa fumaneng tshehetso ya ditjhelete ho tswa
mmusong, empa ba tlameha ho sebetsa ka bolokolohi,

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ba tlameha ho iphumanela mekgwa ya ho itjhehetsa.

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Botsa basebetsi-mmoho bana,
bo-raditaba-mmoho, hore na tlhahlobo-bocha e bolela'ng.

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Ho amohela tse fetileng ho bolela pele ho potsoa lipotso,
eseng feela ho dumela ka hlooho, empa ke ho potsoa lipotso.

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Mme ke seo basebetsi-mmoho bana ba se entseng.

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Mme basebetsimmoho bana ba fumane metsotso ya dipuisano tsa
Robert Koch Institute le sehlopha sa bolaodi ba

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tsietsi ya coronavirus, ka karolo e nngwe ka kgato ya molao
mme ka karolo e nngwe ka ho dutla ha tlhahisoleseding.

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Mme babegadikgang ba ratehang ba SWR, ha le so ka le hlokomela:

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Re bile le litlolo tse kholo ka ho fetisisa tsa
litokelo tsa motheo tsa botho Rephabliking ea

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Federale ea Jeremane ho tloha Ntoeng ea Bobeli ea Lefatše.

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Mme ha ba botsa hore na ha e le hantle re hloka ho lumellana
le eng, ha ke makale hore ebe re se re fetile dilemo tseo.

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Hobane baqolotsi ba litaba, bao mosebetsi oa bona e leng ho kena
lipakeng e le matla a bone a puso ha ho hlokahala, le ho botsa

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lipotso e le matla a bone a puso, ba hlolehile ka ho feletseng.

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Mme hoa utlwahala hore ha ho na tlhahlobo e ntjha e batlehang
mona, hore ha ho na tlhahlobo e ntjha e batlehang mona.

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Mme tlhahlobo-bocha e ne e tla ba tlhahlobo-bocha ya dipolotiki.

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Tlhahlobo bocha e ka bolela ho theha komiti ea
lipatlisiso, e leng khomishene ea lipatlisiso.

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O ka bona kamoo ho leng thata kateng
hore boradipolotiki ba amohele sena.

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Empa hoo hoa utlwahala, ehlile.

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Hobaneng baetsadibe ka bo bona ba
lokela ho hlalosa diketso tsa bona?

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Seo se ka ba tshwana le ho dumella mapolesa
mona Berlin hore ka bo ona a itlhatlhobe kamora moo

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hore na a entse ntho tsohle ka nepo kapa tjhe.

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Kahoo ke botsa, phatlalatso ea mecha ea litaba e kae?

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Empa hape nka rata ho bolela mabitso a
mabedi a hlahelletseng a lokelang ho bolelwa

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mona, sethaleng sena le ka pela bamamedi bana.

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Ke Jürgen Mladek – eo ka bomalimabe a
hlokahetseng haufinyane – mohlophisi-moholo oa mehleng

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oa koranta ea Nordkurier, le Simone Schamann.

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Simone Schamann jwale o sebetsa Nius.

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Mme Simone Schamann o se a botsitse dipotso tsa bohlokwa bakeng
sa Nordkurier tseo mecha ya phatlalatso e ka

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sehloohong e neng e lokela ho di botsa ha ho
ne ho eso be nako e loketseng ya ho etsa jwalo.

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O bile a nyatswa ke Lekgotla la Bobegadikgang.

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Jwale mamela ka hloko:

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Simone Schamann o kgalilwe ke Lekgotla la Boralitaba
ka lebaka la hore dingolwa tsa hae di ka lebisa

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phokotsehong ya boikemisetso ba ho entwa naheng ya Jeremane.

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Ho fihlela ka nako eo, ke ne ke sa tsebe hore Lekgotla
la Boralitaba la Jeremane le ikarabella bakeng sa ho

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netefatsa hore batho ba ikemela hore ba entelwe kapa tjhe.

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Sena sohle se amana joang le ho amohela tse fetileng?

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Ha re sheba seo, ke mang ea lokelang ho sebetsana le sona?

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Ke thehile setsi sa ka le basebetsi-'moho le 'na ba bang.

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Ke hore, setsi sa dipatlisiso, tlhahlobo botjha, qoso ya
molao le thibelo ya ditlolo tsa molao kgahlanong le botho.

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Batho ba bangata ba dula ba botsa,
hobaneng ditlolo tsa molao kgahlanong le botho?

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Hobane seo re se itemohetseng mona e ne e
le litlolo tsa molao khahlanong le botho.

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Batho ba hlorisitswe.

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Lingaka li ntse li hlorisoa le kajeno.

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Lingaka li isoa teronkong ka
lebaka la ho etsa mosebetsi oa tsona.

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Mosebetsi-'moho le 'na Rainer Füllmich o teronkong Göttingen.

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Le eena e ne e le moshebisi e moholo.

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Popoano e ka etsahala feela haeba re fetola maemo a sepolotiki.

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Hobane maemo a sepolotiki ao re iphumanang
re le ho ona, moo re fanang ka matla habonolo,

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a ke ke a lebisa tlhahlobong e nepahetseng.

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Hobane, jwalo ka ha ke boletse, ka nako eo baetsadibe ka
bo-bona ba ne ba tla tlameha ho tobana le seo ba se entseng.

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Ha ho motho ea ka nahanang hore ba entseng litlolo tsena
tsa molao khahlanong le botho ba tla ema ba re: E, ke rona.

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Mme jwale re batla ho qoswa ka molao ka pela baahlodi bao re
ikgethetseng bona, ka pela baqosi bao re

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ikgethetseng bona, hore ba tle ba ahlole hore na seo re
se entseng se ne se nepahetse kapa se fosahetse.

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Likhoeli tse tharo tse fetileng, pele lifaele tsa RKI
li lutla, baahloli bohle ba ile ba mpolella hore ka

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nako eo ba ne ba entse ntho e 'ngoe le e 'ngoe ka nepo.

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Baahlodi bana jwale ho lebelletswe hore ka tshohanyetso ba
qale ho hlahloba tse fetileng. Le hoo ha ho na ho sebetsa.

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E tla sebetsa feela haeba

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Ralf Boes o sa tsoa e phatlalatsa, 'me ke
lumellana le Ralf Boes le ba bang ba bangata. Ka kopo,

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sheba sebaka sa marang-rang seo a se boletseng.

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Ke dumela hore re hloka ho feta ka dinaha tsa feterale.

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Re na le molaotheo oa rona naheng e 'ngoe le e 'ngoe ea kopanelo.

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Mme kaha ke molaotheo o ikemetseng, e mong le e mong wa molaotheo
wa naha e kopaneng o re dumella ho fetola melaotheo ena.

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Re na le matla matsohong a rona.

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Ha o tsebe feela.

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Rainer Mausfeld o dula a re ho na le boqapi ba
maqiti ba nang le talenta e kgolo haholo ba sebetsang.

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Re phela ka thetso ea demokrasi.

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Ho bolelwa hore re na le puso ya batho ka batho.

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Leha ho le jwalo, re na le demokerasi ya boemedi feela.

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Mme puso ya demokerasi ya boemedi ha e le hantle ke seipato
feela sa nnete ya hore re ntse re phela tlasa puso ya

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batho ba maemo a hodimo kapa ya sehlotshwana sa batho ba matla.

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Empa demokerasi ea baemeli, demokerasi
ea baemeli, ke se fapaneng le demokerasi.

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Hobane ntho feela eo demokrasi ea boemeli e u lumellang
ho e etsa ke ho khetha ba u busang lilemo tse 'nè ka seng.

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Empa feela ho tsoa sehlophana se senyenyane sa ba o busang.

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Ha o na monyetla le hanyenyane ho etsa qeto ka diteng tsa
dipolotiki, ka mehato ya dipolotiki, le ka melao ya dipolotiki.

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Leha nna le wena re baahi ba naha ena.

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Sena se bolela, leha ho le jwalo, hore re
ka nka matla ana dinaheng tsa kopanelo.

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Eo ke potso ea matla.

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Kamora seo re se itemohetseng dilemong tse nne tse fetileng,
rona re le setjhaba re tlameha ho botsa potso ka matla.

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Mme haeba re sa e etse, re sa tsoa bona se etsahala ka thibelo ea
makasine eo re sa lumelloeng ho bolela

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lebitso la eona, hobane ho seng joalo re ne re tla
be re tlola lipehelo tse behiloeng ho rona.

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Ha ho na taba hore na ho na le eng makasineng ona.

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Ha mmuso o thibela boralitaba, ha ho na tlhahlobo bocha.

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Joale ho sala feela khatello, mme re tlameha
ho itšireletsa khahlanong le eona re le 'moho.

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Ke tla qala.

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Ho qala hosane, ke tla be ke le leetong
le ZAAVV mobile, ho boletsoe joalo moo.

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Ho tloha ka la 4 Phato, ke hore hosane, ho fihlela ka la
22 Loetse ho pholletsa le Saxony, Thuringia le Brandenburg.

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Ke etela dinaha tse tharo hobane ho tshwarwa
dikgetho tsa mmuso ho e nngwe le e nngwe ya tsona.

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Mme nka rata ho kgothatsa batho dinaheng tsena
ho fetola mekgwa ya bona ya motheo mme ba re:

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Nakong e tlang, rona re le sechaba re batla ho ba
le lentsoe la ho qetela, 'me le tšoare mantsoe a ka.

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Re batla ho kgona ho botsisisa, ho sitisa le ho
thibela qeto e nngwe le e nngwe ya dipolotiki.

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Hoo ke tokelo eo re nang le eona re le sechaba.

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Mme jwale, ho araba potso e tswetseng mona pejana.

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Joale ha ho na taba ho hang hore na ho na le
sehlopha kapa che, hobane rona batho re nka taolo.

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Mme jwale, qetellong, ke rata ho bolela hape hore batho ba
bangata... Oho, ke lokela hape ho bolela hore ho

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na le basebetsi ba rona ba bangata le bathusi ba
bangata ba sebetsang setsing se tsamayang sa ZAAVV.

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Ho na le lipampitšana, likarete tsa poso, le
likarete tsa poso tse mabapi le tumellano ea WHO, mohlala.

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Ka sebele ho tla ba le ditlaleho
ka yona kajeno, ka selekane sa WHO.

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Ke atisa ho botsoa hore na o laola joang ho
tsoela pele ho bapala sethaleng, ho etela naha,

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ho ba teng, le ho feta mekhoeng ea lekhotla.

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O laola joang ho ba le matla ana le ho tswela pele?

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Ke batla ho bua ntho e le 'ngoe.

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Ho 'na, ha ho na boikhethelo bo bong.

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Ke bokamoso ba rona, ke bokamoso ba bana ba
rona, hape ke bokamoso ba litloholo tsa rona.

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Mme ebang re e tlohela ho ba bang, re tlohela
bokamoso ho ba bang, kapa re e nka matsohong a rona.

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Mme ho nna, ha ho potso ka hona. Re
ipuseletsa bokamoso bona matsohong a rona.

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Mme ntho e le nngwe ya ho qetela eo ke batlang ho e bua.

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Jwale re se re nyatsitse mecha ya
phatlalatso e ka sehloohong le e tlwaelehileng.

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Empa u se lebale, re na le mecha e
mengata e fapaneng ea phatlalatso.

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Re na le mananeo a mangata a matle, ebang ke Kontrafunk, Radio
Morgenröte, Apolut, Klartext, Bürgerzeitung, mme, qetellong,

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ntho e 'ngoe e bohlokoa haholo ho 'na: khanyetso ea demokerasi.

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Ka dilemo tse nne, kganyetso ya
demokerasi e bile molekane wa hao.

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Ehlile, ha ke a ba bolela kaofela; ho na le ba bangata ho feta.

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Mme boitshireletso ba demokerasi bo na le
merero e mengata e metle e metjha hona jwale.

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Sheba le seo. Empa e-ea mecheng ea litaba e 'ngoe.

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Ha e le hantle, tsena ha e sa le mecha ea phatlalatso e 'ngoe.

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Ha e le hantle, tseo ke mecha ea phatlalatso e ka
sehloohong, 'me tse ling ha se mecha ea phatlalatso e

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fapaneng, empa ke mecha ea phatlalatso ea khale feela.

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Kgotso, tokoloho, boipuso!