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Ho na le moferefere o moholo ka hare ho phatlalatso ea sechaba.

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Haufinyane tjena nakong ea selemo sa 2024, basebetsi ba fetang
100 ba ARD, ZDF le Deutschlandradio ba ile ba tletleba

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pampiring ea boipolelo hore ha ho na bolokolohi ba ho bua moo ho
hang, le hore maikutlo afe kapa afe a fapaneng a a thibeloa.

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Sekhobo!

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Empa baahi ba ntse ba eketseha ho se
kgotsofale, mme baphatlalatsi ba setjhaba ba ntse ba

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ntse ba otlwa ka ho theoha maemong a diphuputso.

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Na ke makatso hore ebe bahasetsi bana, ba tšehelitsoeng ka
lichelete ke litefello tse qobelloang, ba hlahisa maikutlo a

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tšoanang ketsahalong e 'ngoe le e 'ngoe ea tsietsi, ba ruta
sechaba ka lehlakore le le leng, ba thibela mantsoe a hananang le

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bona 'me ba senya lebitso la ba nahanang ka tsela e fapaneng?

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Ho tloha khale ho sa utlwahale hore na ke hobaneng ha mecha ena
ya phatlalatso e tlamang ho lefshwa e sa kgone ho

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laola ka hoo e ka bang di-euro tse dibilione tse 8.6 ka
selemo, mme e ntse e batla tjhelete e ntseng e eketseha.

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Jeremane e se e ntse e na le tsamaiso ea
phatlalatso ea sechaba e turang ka ho fetisisa lefatšeng.

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Libilione li phalla ka mecheng e belaetsang.

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Ho sebediswa tjhelete e makatsang bakeng sa thepa ya ka
tlung ya mabothobotho e turang ho se hlokehe, bakeng sa

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ntjhafatso ya setudio sa difilimi sa WDR se Cologne feela.

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Litšenyehelo tsa nchafatso li nyolohile ho tloha
ho limilione tse 130 ho ea ho tse 240 tsa li-euro.

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Haufi le 10% ea litefello tsa laesense ea phatlalatso ea
ARD e ile ea sebelisetsoa "merero ea penshene ea k'hamphani".

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Ka lipalo: €564 milione ka selemo se le seng bakeng
sa litefello tsa penchene le melemo ea ho tlohela

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mosebetsi bakeng sa basebetsi ba eona ba mehleng feela.

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Ho thwe ZDF e beheletse ka thoko €, e leng
dimilione tse 5.8, bakeng sa ditefello tsa

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penshene tsa molaodi wa mehleng wa ZDF, Thomas Bellut.

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O fumana ho feta li-euro tse 30,000 ka khoeli pensheneng.

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Tekanyo e hokae ha moqolotsi oa litaba joaloka Markus Lanz a
fumana moputso oa selemo o ka bang £1.9

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milione, athe motho ea phomotseng mosebetsi a
tlameha ho phela ka karolelano ea £16,440 ka selemo?

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Hobaneng ho-clown ea belaetsang joaloka Oliver Welke a
fumana chelete e ka bang €1.2 milione ka selemo, athe

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kasiere ea sebetsang ka thata a fumana feela €32,500?

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Re labalabela ho utloa hore na baahi
ba tloaelehileng ba reng ka maemo ana.

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Che, ke ne ke sa tsebe hore o fumana
chelete e ngata hakaalo. Ho lokile...

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... Ha ke nahane hore ho lokile, che.

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limilione tse 1.9 ka selemo

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e tšehelitsoe ka lichelete ke litefello tsa
laesense, tseo moahi e mong le e mong a

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tlamehang ho li lefa, ho kenyeletsoa le Jeremane.

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... Hantle, ha se hangata ha ntho e itseng
e ntlhese mantswe, empa sena se makatsa.

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Ke nahana hore haeba a ne a sa atlehe, o ne
a tla lelekoa hang-hang ebe a tloha tabeng.

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Ka hona, ruri o sebetsa haholo ho fumana chelete e kalo.

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... e lefelloa ka litefello tsa phatlalatso ea
sechaba, ke hore, litefello tsa GEZ, tseo moahi e

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mong le e mong Jeremane a tlamehang ho li lefa.

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Na o nahana hore hoo ho lokile?

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Che, le hanyenyane.

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Ho se kgotsofale ho a hola.

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Na seo se ntse se le tekanyo? Na seo se ntse se le toka?

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Che, ha ke nahane jwalo.

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Empa hape ke hobane ke motho ea lumelang tokolohong, 'me
taba ena kaofela ea meputso ea li-CEO e ka har'a

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lidolara tse likete tse likete ha se ntho e lokelang ho ba teng.

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Li-euro tse 6,000, 7,000? Hantle...

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Monna o fumana hoo e ka bang limilione tse 1.2 ka selemo.

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Hakaalo?!

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... 45 ... 50?

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E, karolo e ka tlase ho limilione tse 1.2 e ka ba qeto.

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O fumana limilione tse 1.2?!

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E.

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Ebe re na le Markus Lanz, mohlala.

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O feta bohle ka 1.9 milione.

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Bothoto!

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: Ha ke fumane chelete e ngata. Ke tlohetse mosebetsi,
empa ke ntse ke tlameha ho lefa ntho e 'ngoe le e 'ngoe.

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Mopensionere o fumana ka
karolelano hoo e ka bang £16,000 ka selemo.

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ho pholletsa le selemo

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Hanyenyane ka tlase.

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Hanyenyane ka tlase, e.

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Mme jwale, sheba feela palo ya ba 16,000 ha
e bapiswa le ba 1,234,321, e leng dimilione

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tse 1.2 – na hoo ho lokile ka maikutlo a hao?

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Ao, ke chelete e ngata haholo!

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O ka aba ntho e nyane ho batho ba bang.

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kapa moo morwalo o leng boima, batho ba boga haholo...

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Ba bangata ba ne ba se na mosebetsi ka
lebaka la sewa sa coronavirus le mathata a mang.

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... Mme moo a ka abelang ba bang
hanyane kapa a fumana hanyane ho feta.

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... E, empa ha ho na toka.

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Eya, ke motho ya tsebahalang haholo.

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Mme ke ntho e tlwaelehileng hore batho ba tsebahalang
haholo ba fumane tjhelete e ngata haholo, jwalo ka

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dibapadi tsa bolo ya maoto, batshwantshisi le jwalo-jwalo.

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Empa ehlile ho hlakile hore sena se tsheheditswe ka ditjhelete ke
rona, mme ka dimilione tse 1.9 o ka etsa merero e metle haholo.

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ho ruta batho kapa ho phethahatsa merero efe kapa efe e meng.

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Ke ka lebaka leo ke nahanang hore ke boikakaso bo
feteletseng, ho feta tekano bakeng sa seo a se amohelang.

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E, motho o dula a ipotsa hore na toka e
hokae, hore na ho se leeme ho hokae...

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E, ke tjhelete ya setjhaba, ke ditefello hape...

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E, chelete ea rona. Chelete ea rona... haholo.

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... e tshosa haholo ... Kahoo,

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hore o ka ruela haholo ka eona... hoo e ka
bang lidolara tse limilione tse peli ka selemo.

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Ke fumana seo se tshosa.

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Ke nahana hore ha ho na toka ho hang hore bohle ba
tlamehe ho lefa tefello ea laesense matsatsing ana.

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Ka mohlala, ha jwale ha ke na thelevishene
lapeng, empa ha ke nahane hore seo se na le taba

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hona jwale hobane molao o fetohile mona Jeremane.

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Motho e mong le e mong o tlameha ho lefa, ho sa
tsotellehe hore na o na le thelevishene kapa che.

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Litaba tsa matsatsing ana li mpe haholo-holo.

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Ka linako tse ling ha o bulela thelevishene ka hora ea borobeli
bosiu, kapa nakong ea khefu ea Lipapali tsa Bomampoli ba Europe,

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o fumana ke litaba tsa Iseraele feela, tsa Syria,
tsa ntoa ea Ukraine, tsa maemo a teng USA, ebe o

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ipotsa: Ao, na ke tsona feela litaba tse teng hona joale?

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Ha o ka ke wa nka sena ka botebo.

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Maikutlo a sa tloaelehang a tšehelitsoe ke linepe tse sa
khahliseng ho hang, ebe a hlahisoa ke batho ba a hlahisang.

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Ha ke dumellane le bona ho hang, empa ke nahana
feela hore maikutlo a fapaneng a lokela ho hlahiswa.

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Ka mohlala, re na le AfD, eo qalong e neng e
sa hlahelle ho hang mananeong a lipuisano.

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Eaba ba memeloa mananeong a lipuisano.

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Ha feela re ba dumella ka Paramenteng, re lokela hape ho
phatlalatsa maikutlo ohle phatlalatsa – hantle kamoo a

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hlahisitsweng kateng, ntle le ho a lokisa kapa ho a
fetola ka tsela efe kapa efe – mme motho e mong le e

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mong a lokela ho kgona ho iketsetsa maikutlo a hae.

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Ha ke nahane hore rona baahi re hloka thuto hoo ho
hlokahalang hore re fepetsoe ntho e 'ngoe le e 'ngoe ka khaba.

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Ha rea lokela ho tshaba.

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E mong le e mong a iketsetse, ebe re tla
fumana tsela e ntle ea ho tsoela pele.

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Tsohle tse ling ke bo-bobuleng, ho sa tsotellehe hore na bo
tsoa ho ba leqeleng le feteletseng kapa ho ba Green, kapa ho

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ba ka ho le letona kapa ho ba ka ho le letona le feteletseng.

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Bapalami ba ratehang, Jeremane ha se eona feela e nang le
tsamaiso ea phatlalatso ea sechaba e turang ka ho

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fetisisa polaneteng, joalo ka ha ho tlalehiloe ke Handelsblatt.

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Ka makgetho a qobello a ntseng a eketseha, re boetse re tshehetsa
ka ditjhelete meputso e feteletseng le ditefello tsa penshene.

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Re lefa liteishene tse belaetsang le
litšenyehelo tsa mabothobotho tse sa hlokahaleng.

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Empa ntho e mpe ka ho fetisisa kaofela ke:

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Re lefa bakeng sa tlaleho e sekametseng ka ho feletseng,
e mano, le e sa fane ka leseli, e bakang karohano e

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tebileng sechabeng le ho thibela lipuisano tse bulehileng.

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Kla.TV e tlalehile ka botlalo maemo a sa
tšoareleheng ho "mecha ea phatlalatso ea lekhetho le

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qobelloang", 'me re khothaletsa lenaneo ka matla:

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Kgautelo e qobellang ya sebetsa sa ntwa mecheng ya
phatlalatso/ mabaka a 40 a hore ke se ke sa lefa (ka Ivo Sasek).

