WEBVTT 00:00.840 --> 00:04.340 Bafowethu noodade, ndiyanibulisa apha eBerlin. 00:04.340 --> 00:08.180 Undwendwe lwam namhlanje nguGqr. Krüger. Kuyavuya kakhulu ukuba lapha. 00:08.180 --> 00:09.920 Enkosi kakhulu ngesimemo. 00:09.920 --> 00:14.776 Nkosazana Krüger, awuzanqadulanga xesha namandla, kwaye uhambele yonke le ndlela usuka eSweden. 00:14.776 --> 00:18.464 Izolo inqwelomoya yakho ifike eBerlin. 00:18.464 --> 00:22.368 Enkosi kakhulu ngokuthi uze yonke le ndlela. 00:22.368 --> 00:29.320 Isiganeko sesokuba upapashe incwadi. Nathi sinomntu oGonyiweyo – ongcwatywe apha. 00:29.320 --> 00:34.540 Le yitlatla yezifundo zesigulo nemiboniso yomonakalo wesitofu sokugonya i-coronavirus. 00:34.540 --> 00:40.343 Kwaye namhlanje siza kuthetha kancinci ngakumbi ngolwazi olufumeneyo apho. 00:40.343 --> 00:46.110 Kodwa kuqala, kubabukeli abanokuba abakakazi ngawe. 00:46.110 --> 00:52.333 Ungasixelela iinkcukacha ezimbalwa ngawe, ukuba uvela phi, wenza ntoni, kwaye yintoni 00:52.333 --> 00:56.840 ekugqibeleni ekubuyisele apha? Ndingavuya ukwenza oko. 00:56.840 --> 01:03.270 Ndingugqirha oyingcaphephe kwi-pathology kwaye bendisebenza kwi-pathology iminyaka engama-25. 01:03.270 --> 01:08.770 Kwaye mhlawumbi okubalulekileyo kubabukeli, ipatholoji yinkcazo-sifundo sezifo. 01:08.770 --> 01:12.410 Kwaye ingcali yezifo ixilonga izifo. 01:12.410 --> 01:17.120 Kwaye olu gqagqiso lusoloko luyisiseko solonyango. 01:17.120 --> 01:20.760 Kwaye iingcali zokuhlola izifo zihlala zinxulunyaniswa nokuhlolwa kwemizimba yabafileyo. 01:20.760 --> 01:24.696 Ngokuqinisekileyo i-autopsies nazo ziyinxalenye yomsebenzi wepatologist. 01:24.696 --> 01:29.248 Kodwa emsebenzini wam, yayiyinxalenye encinci kakhulu yayo. 01:29.248 --> 01:37.040 Kungoko, kule minyaka iyi-18 idlulileyo, bendijongene ikakhulu nokuxilongwa komhlaza wamabele. 01:37.040 --> 01:39.424 Kwaye bendiseSweden iminyaka engamashumi amabini. 01:39.424 --> 01:45.963 Ndisebenze njengogqirha ophezulu wepatoloji kwikliniki eseVäxjö, kumazantsi eSweden, iminyaka elishumi. 01:45.963 --> 01:52.243 Kwaye kule minyaka mine yokugqibela yam ndilapho, ndandiyingoMlawuli wezoNyango wePathology eVäxjö. 01:52.243 --> 01:59.029 Emva koko, ndaya eKalmar, ekwamaphondo asemazantsi eSweden, ndaza ndaqeshwa apho njengogqirha ophezulu. 01:59.029 --> 02:04.219 Kwangaxeshanye, ndandisebenza njengogqirha ophezulu kwisibhedlele sesiyunivesithi eLund, 02:04.219 --> 02:07.904 apho ndandisenza uphando ngomhlaza wamabele. 02:07.904 --> 02:10.716 Yiloo nto ke ngemvelaphi yam. 02:10.716 --> 02:13.880 Uza namava amaninzi. 02:13.880 --> 02:18.536 Kwaye loo nto nayo ifakwe kule ncwadi. 02:18.536 --> 02:21.880 Ngoku yiatlasi ye-histopathological. 02:21.880 --> 02:28.136 Kum njengomntu oqhelekileyo, okanye mhlawumbi kwabanye bababukeli bethu, oko akuthethi nto ingako ekuqaleni. 02:28.136 --> 02:31.796 Ithini intsingiselo yegama elithi 'histopathological'? Libhekisa entweni? 02:31.796 --> 02:36.382 I-Histopathology ngokwenene ngamagama amabini. I-Histology yinkcazo-sifundo sethishu. 02:36.382 --> 02:39.682 Kwaye besele sinayo i-pathology ngaphambili, isifundo sezifo. 02:39.682 --> 02:47.215 I-histopathology ithetha ukuba ingcali yezifo ijonga iisecheyini zamathishu phantsi kwemayikroskophu. 02:47.215 --> 02:55.356 Kwaye ke ungayijonga itishu. Ungabona utshintsho lwezifo kwitishu. Kwaye yiyo loo nto kuthiwa yi-histopathology. 02:55.356 --> 03:04.660 Kulungile. Kwaye olu hlobo lwe-atlas alunamlinganiselo kwihlabathi jikelele. Kutheni kanye kanye lwahlukile? 03:04.660 --> 03:14.660 Le ncwadi ifingqa iziphumo zikaNjingalwazi Burkhardt, oye waphinda wahlola phantse amatyala angama-90 ohlolo lomzimba. 03:14.660 --> 03:23.076 Kwaye aba ngabantu abaswelekileyo abanxulumene ngexesha nokugonywa kwe-coronavirus. 03:23.076 --> 03:28.816 Kwaye uNjingalwazi Burkhardt wathunyelelwa la matyala. 03:28.816 --> 03:38.176 Kwakusoloko zizihlobo ezazikholelwa ukuba ezi zitofu zokugonya zinokuba ngunobangela wokufa kwabathandwa bazo. 03:38.176 --> 03:45.593 Ngoko ke, kwelinye icala, le ncwadi iqulathe imifanekiso ye-histology, oko kukuthi, imifanekiso 03:45.593 --> 03:50.536 ye-histopathology esithethe ngayo. Lelo icandelo lemifanekiso. 03:50.536 --> 03:57.856 Kwaye ke ngasemva, kwicandelo elingasemva, kukho iinkcazelo zamatyala. 03:57.856 --> 04:04.934 Oko kuthetha ukuba apha kukho zonke iimeko ezinemvelaphi yezonyango, ukugonywa, ukuba basweleke ixesha elingakanani 04:04.934 --> 04:08.640 emva kokugonywa, nokuba yayingeyiphi isitofu sokugonya. 04:08.640 --> 04:13.260 Ungafunda konke ngayo kweli candelo lamatyala. 04:13.260 --> 04:17.600 Kwaye akukho mqulu unjengalo ehlabathini okwangoku. 04:17.600 --> 04:23.382 Ngelixa ndilungiselela olu dliwano-ndlebe, sendikhe ndajonga ezinye iisampulu zokufunda kunye neengcaphulo 04:23.382 --> 04:26.570 ezisuka kwi-atlas. Kwaye kunjalo kanye njengoko uchazile. 04:26.570 --> 04:35.649 Ngoko ke, kokubini kwiingcali, oogxa abavela kwipatholoji, nakumntu onokuba akakayijongisisi nzulu okwangoku. 04:35.649 --> 04:43.322 Ngokuqinisekileyo kukho into apha onokuyenza, ingakumbi kuba uchaza nembali engemva kwento kunye nendawo, ngaloo 04:43.322 --> 04:47.183 ndlela ubonisa yonke into ngendlela ekulula ukuyiqonda. 04:47.183 --> 04:55.580 Ngoko ke, kunjalo, ibilixesha elihle lokuba ndiyijonge ngokusondeleyo. 04:55.580 --> 05:02.240 Sele ukhankanyile ukuba noNjingalwazi Arne Burkhardt naye wenze uphando oluninzi kule ndawo. 05:02.240 --> 05:08.476 Kwaye nani niye nasebenzisa imifanekiso kaNjingalwazi Arne Burkhardt kwincwadi yenu, phakathi kwezinye izinto. 05:08.476 --> 05:15.968 Kwenzeka njani ukuba nahlangana naza nisebenza kunye ngolu hlobo? 05:15.968 --> 05:27.616 NgoProfesa Arne Burkhardt owasungula inkomfa yokuqala yepatoloji ngo-2021 ekunye noMnu. Becker, igqwetha. 05:27.616 --> 05:33.140 Kwaye uNjingalwazi Arne Burkhardt wethula iimeko apho ezenzeka emva kokuba ezi zitofu 05:33.140 --> 05:36.620 zokugonya zifakwe, oko kukuthi, ukusweleka. 05:36.620 --> 05:42.689 Waza ke wathi ukuba, njengengcali yezifo, uvakalelwa kukuba ungathanda ukujonga kwakhona iziphumo ngokusondeleyo, ukuba 05:42.689 --> 05:45.920 awuqinisekanga ngokupheleleyo, kufuneka uqhagamshelane naye. 05:45.920 --> 05:50.520 Kwaye ngenxa yokuba ndinqwenela ukwazi ngokwendalo, ndaqhagamshelana naye. 05:50.520 --> 05:58.830 Siye sajonga saza sixoxa ngeemeko ezininzi kwi-intanethi, nto leyo ekhokelele kwintsebenziswano. 05:58.830 --> 06:03.730 Kwaye besidibana rhoqo nakwiisemina nakwiinkomfa. 06:03.730 --> 06:13.140 Kwaye kutshanje ngoJanyuwari 2023 kwinkomfa enkulu eStockholm, eSweden. 06:13.140 --> 06:22.040 Kwaye enye yezinto ezavela apho yayikukuba kubaluleke kakhulu kuye ukuba ezi ziphumo zipapashwe, oko kukuthi, zaziwe luluntu. 06:22.040 --> 06:26.640 Wathi kwakhona ndingazisebenzisa iifoto zakhe. 06:26.640 --> 06:33.340 Kungoko kubalulekile ukuba uluntu lwaziswe ngento eyenzekileyo emva koku gonywa. 06:33.340 --> 06:40.136 Nangona kunjalo, incwadi iqulathe kuphela imifanekiso emibini kaNjingalwazi Burkhardt, kwaye ezinye iifoto ezili-110 zezam. 06:40.136 --> 06:50.720 Ngoko ke, malunga nonyaka ophelileyo, ndiye eReutlingen, kwiziko likaNjingalwazi Burkhardt, ndaza ndajonga iimeko ezilapho. 06:50.720 --> 06:57.500 Kwaye ndakhetha ezo, iziqwengana ezifanele kakhulu le ncwadi. 06:57.500 --> 07:04.620 Inyaniso yeyokuba uNjingalwazi Burkhardt usweleke ngesiquphe ngoMeyi wonyaka ophelileyo. 07:04.620 --> 07:10.103 Ndamangaliswa kakhulu ndaza ndabhala kwincwadi yamangalelo ukuba ndiza kwenza konke okusemandleni am 07:10.103 --> 07:13.920 ukuqinisekisa ukuba ezi ziphumo ziyavezwa elubala. 07:13.920 --> 07:25.470 Kwaye ke, emva kokuchitha unyaka ndiqokelela iziphumo ndizifaka kwincwadi, mna... 07:25.470 --> 07:31.216 Kwaye kule ncwadi, uchaza iintlobo ezingama-57 zezityholo ezahlukeneyo. 07:31.216 --> 07:37.184 Ungasinika imizekelo embalwa yokuba kanye sifanele siyicinge njani le nto? 07:37.184 --> 07:45.120 Uphande ntoni kanye kanye? Kwaye zeziphi izigqibo neziphumo othe wafikelela kuzo ekugqibeleni? 07:45.120 --> 07:48.323 Ndingavuya kakhulu. Ndiziphathele iifoto ezimbalwa. 07:48.323 --> 07:52.260 Ndiza kubeka le nto phantsi ukuze ubone isikrini ngcono. 07:52.260 --> 07:58.880 Umzekelo, nantsi imeko elusizi kakhulu ebandakanya intombazana eneminyaka eli-16 ubudala. 07:58.880 --> 08:05.709 Wayefuna ngenene ukuya kuhambo lwesikolo, ngoko ke wayefuna ukufumana esi siqholo, nangona umama 08:05.709 --> 08:09.220 wakhe wathi: "Musa ukusenza, akukho kulunganga." 08:09.220 --> 08:15.473 Umama usebenza kwezempilo naye, kodwa ke wathi: Kulungile, ndiyamqonda umntantombi wam. 08:15.473 --> 08:17.800 Wathi ke: Kulungile, qhubeka wenze oko. 08:17.800 --> 08:24.096 Kwaye emva kwesitofu sesibini, intombazana yawa phantsi kwiintsuku ezisibhozo kamva. 08:24.096 --> 08:31.436 Kwaye naye ebengaziva kakuhle waza wawa etafileni yesidlo sangokuhlwa, waza umama wakhe wamvuselela. 08:31.436 --> 08:37.940 Intombazana yalaliswa esibhedlele yaza yasweleka kwiintsuku ezingama-22 emva kolu lwenyo lwesibini. 08:37.940 --> 08:42.429 Kwaye apha ungabona ukuba intliziyo yentombazana inqunqwe njani. 08:42.429 --> 08:52.043 Kwaye kwindawo apho iinkwenkwezi zibonakala khona, ungabona ezi ndawo zikhanya ngakumbi. Kwaye oko kukufa kwezicubu zentliziyo. 08:52.043 --> 08:56.720 Kwicala lasekhohlo, usabona ukopha apho umcibisholo ukhomba khona. 08:56.720 --> 09:05.840 Kwaye ukuba uqwalasela ngokusondeleyo, ungabona apha kwindawo esezantsi ukuba iintolo ezimbini zikhomba kumachaphaza amnyama. 09:05.840 --> 09:09.550 Ezi ziilymphocytes, oko kukuthi, iiseli ezibangela ukudumba kwisihlunu sentliziyo. 09:09.550 --> 09:15.300 Kwaye kwindawo ephezulu, apho ikhululekile ngakumbi, kukho ii-phagocytes kunye netyhidi yamabala ekhululekileyo. 09:15.300 --> 09:18.520 Ngoko ke le yimeko ye-myocarditis ephindaphindayo. 09:18.520 --> 09:24.200 Kwaye intliziyo yayijongeka ngolu hlobo kwiindawo ezininzi, nto leyo engahambelaniyo nobomi. 09:26.880 --> 09:30.670 Emva koko ndaphinda ndazisa elinye ityala. 09:30.670 --> 09:37.471 Lo ngumfana oneminyaka engama-22 ubudala owayengumqubhi wokhuphiswano, owaba nokuhla okukhulu 09:37.471 --> 09:43.036 kwindlela aqhuba ngayo emva kwesitofu sakhe sesibini. 09:43.036 --> 09:49.040 Wayengasakwazi ukumelana noxinzelelo waza ke wafunyaniswa enomyocarditis. 09:49.040 --> 09:57.520 Waphinda waxelelwa ukuba akasayi kuphinda akwazi ukukhuphisana njengomqubhi okhuphisanayo kwaye akusayi kuphinda kunokwenzeka. 09:57.520 --> 10:02.432 Waza wathenga umpu wazidubula. 10:02.432 --> 10:11.243 Kwaye entliziyweni, ungabona apha kwisangqa ukuba inani leeseli ezivuthayo lonyuke kancinci, 10:11.243 --> 10:16.153 okuthetha ukuba zininzi kakhulu ezi doti zimnyama. 10:16.153 --> 10:21.095 Oku kunzima kakhulu ukuba umntu ongenguye ingcali akubone, kodwa encwadini kuyilwe ngendlela yokuba 10:21.095 --> 10:24.288 isiphumo esinye sicace gca, esinye sibe sifihlakele kakhulu. 10:24.288 --> 10:30.920 Kwaye ungabona ukuba kwanotshintsho oluncinane kakhulu lunempembelelo enamandla kangaka kumgangatho wobomi. 10:30.920 --> 10:38.063 Kwaye kumfanekiso olandelayo, ungabona ukuba le ikwalicandelo lentliziyo yesi sigulana siselula okanye somntu ongasekhoyo. 10:38.063 --> 10:48.740 Kwaye la maziko akhanyayo onokuwasibona apha emfanekisweni zizibazi ezenzeke emva kokudumba. 10:48.740 --> 10:56.920 Kwaye yile nto kanye ebalulekileyo. Utshintsho oluncinci kangaka lunokuba nefuthe elikhulu kumgangatho wobomi. 10:56.920 --> 11:01.120 Kubaluleke kakhulu ukubona oku. 11:01.120 --> 11:06.980 Ngokuqinisekileyo ukhe wabona kumabonakude indlela abadlali bebhola ekhatywayo abaziingcali abaye bawa ngayo. Ewe. 11:06.980 --> 11:15.280 Kwaye oko kunokwenzeka ukuba nakho kunxulumene nokudumba kwesihlunu sentliziyo. 11:15.280 --> 11:17.960 Emva koko ndaphinda ndazisa elinye ityala. 11:17.960 --> 11:27.123 Lo ngumntu oyindoda oneminyaka engama-61 ubudala, owayegonyelwe kabini i-COVID-19 waza wasweleka 11:27.123 --> 11:31.380 kwiintsuku ezingama-25 emva kwesigonyo sesibini. 11:31.380 --> 11:37.280 Kwaye apha ungabona isikrozo se-aorta. I-aorta yeyona misipha yegazi inkulu emzimbeni. 11:37.280 --> 11:42.610 Kwaye kwicandelo elingezantsi, ungabona udonga lwenene lwezihlunu lwe-aorta. 11:42.610 --> 11:46.701 Kwaye phezulu, apho lo mcibisholo ubonakala khona, ungabona indlela isicwili 11:46.701 --> 11:50.620 esincanyathiselweyo esandisiwe ngayo ngokucacileyo. 11:50.620 --> 11:56.960 Kwaye apha unokubona kwakhona la mabala amnyama anenkangeleko yebhanti, ahleli ngokwalo mkhwa. 11:56.960 --> 12:03.300 Ezi ziiseli ezivuselela ukudumba. Kwaye ngesiqhelo azibonakali apho. Ungabona kwakhona isibazi. 12:03.300 --> 12:10.276 Kwaye nakwindawo esezantsi, kwindawo enamathambo, ungabona utshintsho oluncinci, olusisangqa. 12:10.276 --> 12:17.680 Ngoko ke ezi ziinkulo zemithambo yegazi. Imithambo emincinci ikhula apho. Kwaye kukho namabala amanxeba apha. 12:17.680 --> 12:21.860 Kwaye ke apha, igazi lalitye indlela yalo phakathi kodonga. 12:21.860 --> 12:30.235 Kwaye ke laa ndoda yopha yafa kuba ukunwebeka kodonga lwesi sibaso lwegazi kwakuphelile ngenxa yokudumba. 12:30.235 --> 12:33.683 Ukongeza, kuqatshelwe nokufa kwezicubu. 12:33.683 --> 12:41.141 Kunye nokulahleka kwemicu eguquguqukayo, eyenza umthambo wegazi ukwazi ukuziqhelanisa noxinzelelo. 12:43.880 --> 12:50.369 Emva koko, ndinayo enye imeko yomfazi oneminyaka engama-63 ubudala, naye owasweleka 12:50.369 --> 12:53.756 ngenxa yokuqhekeka komthambo-luvo omkhulu. 12:53.756 --> 12:56.880 Ngoko ke, yimbangela efanayo kanye yokufa njengakuqala ngendoda. 12:56.880 --> 13:04.800 Kwaye apha sinolu tshintsho lumnzulu njengento efunyenweyo ngamabona-ndenzile. Le yinxalenye yemiphunga. 13:04.800 --> 13:07.840 Uze ubone la madothi matshontsho kuyo yonke indawo. 13:07.840 --> 13:11.853 Kwaye yinto endingazange ndiyibone ngaphambili, kwananjalo noNjingalwazi Burkhardt kunye 13:11.853 --> 13:15.120 noNjingalwazi Lang, abasebenze kunye noNjingalwazi Burkhardt. 13:15.120 --> 13:20.836 Bobabini baziingcali zokuhlalutya izifo ezinamava kakhulu nexesha elide. Abakaze bakubone oku ngaphambili. 13:20.836 --> 13:27.180 Kwaye ukuba uyayikhulisa, ungabona ukuba le nto imnyama ikwizitya. 13:27.180 --> 13:29.436 Kwaye kufanele kubekho igazi ngokwenene kwimithambo. 13:29.436 --> 13:35.290 Ewe, oko ngenene akuzange kuphucule ukujikeleza kwegazi. 13:35.290 --> 13:42.789 Ngazo zonke ezi zivavanyo neziphumo, ezathi ngokucacileyo zakhokelela ekufeni kwaloo mntu, ungaqiniseka njani? 13:42.789 --> 13:48.980 Okanye isithandabuzo sokuba oku kwakungenxa yokwenene yesitofu sokugonya i-coronavirus sivela phi? 13:48.980 --> 13:53.480 Ngoko ke, uyenza njani loo nto, uyakha phi ibhulorho? 13:53.480 --> 13:58.694 Ekugqibeleni, ngokwexesha, oko kukuthi, ukujonga ukuba isitofu sokugqibela sokugonya 13:58.694 --> 14:02.443 i-coronavirus sinikwe nini nokuba ukusweleka kwenzeke nini. 14:02.443 --> 14:06.536 Kwaye rhoqo oku kunokubonwa kunxulumene ngokwamaxesha ngokusondeleyo. 14:06.536 --> 14:11.008 Kukwakho nezinye iimfa apho kudlule iinyanga ezininzi. 14:11.008 --> 14:17.440 Noko ke, ngenxa yokuba kufunyenwe utshintsho oluphindaphindayo emzimbeni, kufuneka kuthathelwe 14:17.440 --> 14:21.380 ngqalelo ukuba esi siqholo sesona sibangela ukufa. 14:21.380 --> 14:27.960 Ngoku ubesoloko unika imizekelo yamalungu omzimba onakeleyo, anjengentliziyo okanye imithambo yegazi. 14:27.960 --> 14:35.223 Ingaba uqaphele naziphi na iinguqu okanye ukuphazamiseka kwezinye iindawo zomzimba wakho? 14:35.223 --> 14:39.680 Umzekelo, kukwakho netyala elikule atlasi. 14:39.680 --> 14:43.780 Lo ngumntu oyindoda oneminyaka engamashumi amathandathu ubudala. 14:43.780 --> 14:49.317 Le yeyona meko kuphela kule atlas ingekho kuProf. Burkhardt; ndandine le meko 14:49.317 --> 14:53.700 eSibhedlele saseKalmar. Ndenze uhlolo lomzimba womfi. 14:53.700 --> 14:58.423 Lo ngumguli onomhlaza wamathumba e-lymph. 14:58.423 --> 15:04.469 Kwaye ufumana i-chemotherapy nonyango lokucinezela amajoni omzimba. 15:04.469 --> 15:08.869 Oku kuthetha ukuba inkqubo yokhuselo lomzimba icinezelwe ngamayeza. 15:08.869 --> 15:15.240 Ngoko ke wafumana izitofu zombini zokugonya i-coronavirus ngexesha elinye waza wasweleka kwiinyanga ezintathu kamva. 15:15.240 --> 15:20.608 Kwaye kungekudala emva kwesitofu sesibini, waphathwa yingqithiso emzimbeni wakhe wonke. 15:20.608 --> 15:25.192 Ngamanye amazwi, umfanekiso wento eyaziwa ngokuba yi-Guillain-Barré syndrome, edla 15:25.192 --> 15:29.320 ngokuchazwa njengomonakalo wesitofu sokugonya. 15:30.870 --> 15:34.803 Ndihlolisise izakhiwo ezininzi zemithambo-luvo. 15:34.803 --> 15:40.220 Apha, umzekelo, ungabona umthambo-luvo osuka kumqolo. 15:40.220 --> 15:45.696 Ungayibona le ndawo imile okweminwe. Ungazibona ezi phetshana zimnyama kuyo yonke indawo. 15:45.696 --> 15:49.255 Akufanelanga zibe lapho. Zonke ziiseli ezivuselela ukudumba. Ngoko ke lo mthambo wonke 15:49.255 --> 15:51.220 wemithambo uzele ziiseli ezivuselela ukudumba. 15:51.220 --> 15:54.975 Andizange ndibone into enje. Ndiye ndayibonisa neengcali zokuqonda ukusebenza kwengqondo. 15:54.975 --> 16:01.030 Oko kuthetha ukuba ngoogqirha bezifo abasebenza kakhulu ngengqondo, oko kukuthi, ngamacandelo engqondo. 16:01.030 --> 16:04.763 Abakayifumani loo nto okwangoku, ngale ndlela, abakayiboni loo nto okwangoku. 16:04.763 --> 16:11.580 Ngoko ke ibingekho nje kuphela kwi-nerves, kodwa apha sinayo, umzekelo, inxalenye yesikhondo sengqondo. 16:11.580 --> 16:19.640 Kwaye apha ungabona le ndawo ikhululekileyo kwindawo yeenkwenkwezi. Ngoko ke oku kukufa kwezicubu. 16:19.640 --> 16:27.550 Kwaye phakathi kweenkwenkwezi ezimbini eziphezulu, ungabona isiphekepheke, esili esi siphekepheke. 16:27.550 --> 16:32.380 Apha ungabona kwakhona la madothi matshontsho kuyo yonke indawo. 16:32.380 --> 16:37.200 Kwaye abavumelekanga ukuba babe lapho. Isikhongozeli sidumbile, udonga luyatyeba. 16:37.200 --> 16:42.660 Kwaye kungenxa yesi siseko apho le nto yokufa kwezicubu, okanye i-infarction, yenzeka khona. 16:42.660 --> 16:50.840 Isikhondo sengqondo liziko lolawulo lwemisebenzi emininzi ebalulekileyo. Kwaye oko ekugqibeleni kukhokelele ekufeni. 16:50.840 --> 16:58.323 Ndizamile ukupapasha eli tyala kwi-British Medical Journal. 16:58.323 --> 17:03.872 Kuba bendicinga ukuba kunomdla kakhulu kangangokuba kwafuneka kwenziwe kwaziwa luluntu. 17:03.872 --> 17:11.736 Ndizamile iinyanga ezintandathu ukudlulisela eli tyala kwi-British Medical Journal. 17:11.736 --> 17:15.883 Kwaye ndaxelelwa ukuba ndicele nditshintshe la magama okanye la. 17:15.883 --> 17:18.310 Ndingathanda ukufaka lo mibala okanye lala. 17:18.310 --> 17:24.816 Emva kweenyanga ezintandathu, ndafumana i-imeyile echaza ukuba umcimbi onjalo sele upapashiwe. 17:24.816 --> 17:28.974 Kwaye abasathandabuzi ukupapasha umba wam. 17:28.974 --> 17:37.981 Emva koko ndapapasha eli tyala kunye neeprofesa ezimbini ze-neuropathology kwenye ijounali. 17:37.981 --> 17:41.996 Nangona kunjalo, oku akunakufunyanwa kwi-PubMed, umzekelo. 17:41.996 --> 17:47.030 I-PubMed sisixhobo sokukhangela samagqirha, ngoko ke ungatsho ukuba yiWikipedia yamagqirha. 17:47.030 --> 17:52.420 Le meko ayifumaneki apho. Ngoko ke ndiyazibuza ukuba yintoni enokufumaneka kwi-PubMed. 17:52.420 --> 17:57.763 Kuba ngaphambili bendicinga ukuba le yayiyinjini yokukhangela iimpapasho zenzululwazi. 17:57.763 --> 18:06.776 Ewe, kwaye ukuba ngoku uthi ingxoxo ibiyileyo yokuba ityala elinje sele lipapashiwe, ke nako oko asiyongxoxo kum. 18:06.776 --> 18:14.640 Ngenxa yetyala elinye nelinye, kubaluleke kakhulu ukwazisa ukuba esi asisosiganeko nje esizimeleyo. 18:14.640 --> 18:19.383 Uyibona njani le ngxoxo ekubekelweyo? 18:19.383 --> 18:23.340 Ndicinga ukuba bebengayinanzanga kwasekuqaleni. 18:23.340 --> 18:33.240 Kuba abaxhasi bayo, i-British Medical Journal, bathatha ikhondo elahluke ngokupheleleyo. Babengathandabuzanga nje ngaloo nto. 18:33.240 --> 18:41.019 Masibuyele kwisitofu sokugonya i-coronavirus ngokwaso nezifo eziphambili enikwazileyo ukuzichonga ngokunxulumene 18:41.019 --> 18:45.040 naso ngexesha lophando lwenu. Zeziphi eninokuzibiza? 18:45.040 --> 18:50.223 Into esele siyijongile, i-myocarditis, ixhaphakile kakhulu. 18:50.223 --> 18:55.180 Ukuvuvukala kwemithambo yegazi nako kuxhaphakile kakhulu. 18:55.180 --> 18:59.840 Kufunyenwe izinto zangaphandle, endisele ndizibonise. 18:59.840 --> 19:02.910 Kubonakele ukuncipha kwemicu eguquguqukayo. 19:02.910 --> 19:06.900 Kwaye kungekuphela nje kwiindonga zemithambo, kodwa nakwisikhumba, umzekelo. 19:06.900 --> 19:11.614 Kwaye andazi ukuba uqaphele na, kodwa xa abantu befumene esi siqholo sokugonya 19:11.614 --> 19:15.904 i-coronavirus izihlandlo ezininzi, bakhula ngokukhawuleza. 19:15.904 --> 19:20.512 Kwaye oku kunokunxulumana nenyani yokuba imicu eguquguqukayo eluswini iyanyamalala. 19:20.512 --> 19:25.360 Ngoko ke sikwazile ukungqina ukuba amathambo egazi ayenzeka. 19:25.360 --> 19:29.420 Ngoko ke kukho amaqhuma egazi aqhelekileyo kunye nawo angaqhelekanga. 19:29.420 --> 19:36.544 Kwaye kwezi ngxuma zegazi ezingaqhelekanga, esingazange sizibone ngaphambili, akukho sele zegazi ezibomvu kwingxuma. 19:36.544 --> 19:41.344 Zifana kakhulu nezakhiwo zerabha. 19:41.344 --> 19:45.440 Kwaye, njengoko benditshilo, le nto ibingazange ibekho ngolu hlobo ngaphambili. 19:45.440 --> 19:52.160 Kwaye ke kukho izifo ze-autoimmune. UNjingalwazi Arne Burkhardt ukuchaze oku njenge-lymphocyte amok. 19:52.160 --> 19:55.136 Kwaye ungakubona oko kuzo zonke izitho. 19:55.136 --> 20:00.300 Oku akukhethi lwalungu, kodwa kuchaphazela umzimba wonke. 20:00.300 --> 20:05.520 Kwaye ke, kukho iinguqu ezahluke kakhulu ezinokufunyanwa. 20:05.520 --> 20:12.516 Emva koko, ke, kukho umhlaza we-turbo – endandisele ndimrhanela ngo-2021 – endandisele 20:12.516 --> 20:16.800 ndirhanela ukuba unxulumene nezitofu zokugonya. 20:16.800 --> 20:23.900 Noko ke, oku akufakwanga encwadini kuba i-autopsies zihlala zingenziwa kubantu abasweleke ngenxa yomhlaza we-turbo. 20:23.900 --> 20:29.600 Kuba usazi kwasekuqaleni, kulungile, esi sisifo setyholo. Akusekho mfuneko yokujonga phaya. 20:29.600 --> 20:38.944 Ingaba umsebenzi wakho wenzululwazi, ngokwezinto osibonisileyo, ube nefuthe kubomi bakho bobungcali? 20:38.944 --> 20:42.529 Ewe, ngokujonga kakhulu. 20:42.529 --> 20:47.696 Xa ndajonga nzulu kwezi nyathelo ze-histopathological, ndabona izinto ezazingabonwanga 20:47.696 --> 20:51.140 ngoogxa bam eSibhedlele saseKalmar, umzekelo. 20:51.140 --> 20:55.885 Kwakuyimeko apho ndandingumphathi woqeqesho kwipathojini, ndiqeqesha oogqirha 20:55.885 --> 20:58.870 abancedisayo ukuze babe ziingcali kwipathojini. 20:58.870 --> 21:04.516 Kwaye ke kwafika ugqirha osemtsha waza wathi, ewe, wayenetyala apha. 21:04.516 --> 21:11.800 Yayingumntu oneqhwa kwaye ukufa kwakwenzeke ngequbuliso. 21:11.800 --> 21:19.104 Kwavela ukuba ukusweleka bekukwanxulumene nesi siqholo sokugonya i-coronavirus. 21:19.104 --> 21:26.287 Ndahlola intliziyo ndaza ndathi, "Kukho ubungqina be-myocarditis apha, kunye nokunyuka okuncinane kakhulu kwee-lymphocytes, 21:26.287 --> 21:30.460 oko kukuthi, iiseli ezivuvukayo, kwiindawo ezininzi." 21:30.460 --> 21:38.500 Noko ke, umntu osebenza naye oselula wayecinga ukuba yayingekho mandla kangako kangangokuba ayinakuba yi-myocarditis. 21:38.500 --> 21:47.223 Wabe esecela enye ingcali yezifo kwiqela lethu leengcali zezifo eKalmar, nayo yaqinisekisa ukuba yayingekuko ukudumba. 21:47.223 --> 21:51.669 Nangona kunjalo, njengoko ndisebenza neengcali zepatoloji ezininzi kwihlabathi jikelele, 21:51.669 --> 21:54.169 ndixoxe ngeli tyala nezinye iingcali zepatoloji. 21:54.169 --> 21:57.376 Kwaza kwafumaniseka ukuba yimyo-carditis. 21:57.376 --> 22:05.152 Kwaye ke kwabakho iingxoxo ezishushu kwinkomfa yezonyango eKalmar, kuba kum, unobangela wokufa yayiyi-myocarditis. 22:05.152 --> 22:08.448 Kwaye oko bekunxulumene nokugonywa kwe-coronavirus. 22:08.448 --> 22:13.294 Ngoko ke ndixele eli tyala kwi-Arhente yaseSweden yeeMveliso zezoNyango, kuba lonke 22:13.294 --> 22:16.360 ityala ekukrokreleka ngalo kufuneka lichazwe. 22:16.360 --> 22:22.446 Ngethuba lale ngcebiso yezonyango, ndahlaselwa kakhulu, ndabuzwa ukuba kutheni ndingena mdaka kwimicimbi 22:22.446 --> 22:28.352 yabanye kwaye ndingayixela njani le meko. Ndaxelelwa ukuba ndiyirhoxise ingxelo yam ngoko nangoko. 22:28.352 --> 22:36.100 Ndiye ndathi eli tyala alikho lomntu othile, kodwa limalunga nokucacisa ukuba kwenzeka ntoni 22:36.100 --> 22:40.336 emva kwezi zitofu zokugonya kwaye andizukuritsho. 22:40.336 --> 22:49.500 Ngoko ke, ubuchule bam bafunyaniswa. Kwaye ndisandul' ukuqonda ukuba andisakwazi ukusebenza kweli candelo lezonyango. 22:49.500 --> 22:58.180 Phakathi kwezinye izinto, ndiye ndaxela ngomhlaza we-turbo endandikrokrela ngo-2021 ukuba unxulumene nala magonyo. 22:58.180 --> 23:04.492 Ndiye ndacinga ndizithethela ukuba akwenza nantso nantoni na ukuba ndifumanise iitumor ezinokuba 23:04.492 --> 23:08.800 zibangelwe ngomnye ugqirha ngokusebenzisa ityefu. 23:08.800 --> 23:14.310 Emva koko ndayeka umsebenzi wam ndaza ndenza uqeqesho oluninzi olongezelelweyo kule minyaka yakutshanje. 23:14.310 --> 23:21.096 Kwaye ngoku ndivule ishishini lam, elijongana nempilo iphela. 23:21.096 --> 23:24.903 Ndimema ababukeli ukuba bajonge iwebhusayithi yam. 23:24.903 --> 23:31.460 Oku kuvakala kumnandi kakhulu. Ndicinga ukuba ngokuqinisekileyo kufanelekile ukuba ndiphinde ndijonge iwebhusayithi yakho. 23:31.460 --> 23:34.456 Masibuyele kwiziganeko zangoku. 23:34.456 --> 23:44.176 Ngokutsho kwe-WHO, i-monkeypox, ngoku ebizwa ngokuba yi-Mpox, iqhambuke kwamanye amazwe ase-Afrika. 23:44.176 --> 23:47.930 Kwaye siqhubeka sisiva ngomkhuhlane weentaka nathi. 23:47.930 --> 23:54.352 Kwaye la ngamacebo akhoyo ngoku. Sifuna ukulwa nezi zifo kuthiwa yintlekele yezempilo 23:54.352 --> 24:00.156 sisebenzisa itekhnoloji yesitofu sokugonya se-mRNA. 24:00.156 --> 24:08.916 Kodwa ngoku ndifumene iingxelo ezivela kuni, kwaye ke nakwabanye izazinzulu ezininzi, ezilumkisa uluntu ukuba lube nononophelo 24:08.916 --> 24:13.760 kwaye luphephe itekhnoloji yesitofu sokugonya se-mRNA. 24:13.760 --> 24:20.940 Ngokukodwa kuba zininzi iziphumo ebezingalindelekanga ezenzekileyo. Ngoku uphinde wasibonisa oku ngokucacileyo apha. 24:20.940 --> 24:28.436 Kwaye kwangaxeshanye, i-WHO ngoku ikhupha esi silumkiso, esi silumkiso sikwinqanaba eliphezulu kakhulu, sokuba 24:28.436 --> 24:37.060 imveliso yobuchwepheshe besitofu sokugonya se-mRNA kufuneka ngoku yandiswe apha. Oku kungena njani kunye kuwe? 24:37.060 --> 24:45.282 Loo nto ayivakali kum, ingakumbi kuba kuphinde kwapapashwa ukuba, umzekelo, izitofu zikaPfizer zineziphumo ebezingalindelekanga 24:45.282 --> 24:48.936 ezimbi kakhulu kwi-11% yamatyala xa kuziwa kwi-coronavirus. 24:48.936 --> 24:56.491 Kwaye ke iModerna, yi-21%. Oko kuthetha iziphumo ezibi ezinzulu. I-21% yabantu abafumana esi siqholo 24:56.491 --> 25:00.460 sokugonya i-coronavirus baneziphumo ezibi ezinzulu. 25:00.460 --> 25:08.277 Kwaye xa ucinga ukuba izinga lokusweleka ngenxa ye-coronavirus lingaphantsi kwepesenti enye, 25:08.277 --> 25:13.230 andicingi ukuba iingenelo neengozi zilungelelene kakuhle. 25:13.230 --> 25:18.460 Kukho into engaqhelekanga, ukuba ndingatsho. 25:18.460 --> 25:25.349 Kwaye ukuba uthatha umzekelo woflu, isitofu sokugonya iflu, esingekho kule teknoloji ye-mRNA. 25:25.349 --> 25:29.856 Izinga leempawu ezingalindelekanga liphakathi kwe-0 ne-4%, oko kukuthi, iimpawu ezingalindelekanga ezimandundu. 25:29.856 --> 25:34.570 Kwaye ngesi siqhushumbisi se-coronavirus, yi-21%, inyuke yaya kwi-21%. 25:34.570 --> 25:42.603 Kwaye eyona nto ibalulekileyo apha kukuba esi siqholo se-mRNA sisebenza ngokusebenzisa ikhowudi yemfuza. 25:42.603 --> 25:48.212 Oku kuthetha ukuba ikhowudi yemfuza ifakwa, nto leyo ebangela iiseli zethu zomzimba 25:48.212 --> 25:51.616 ezisempilweni ukuba zivelise le protein ye-spike. 25:51.616 --> 25:54.480 Kwaye oku ke kuboniswa kumphezulu weseli. 25:54.480 --> 26:01.323 Ngoko ke ezinye iiseli zokhuselo lomzimba zithatha iiseli zomzimba ngokwazo njengezele ngaphandle zize zihlasele. 26:01.323 --> 26:03.300 Kwaye yile nto ibangela ezi zempendulo zokuzikhusela komzimba. 26:03.300 --> 26:08.160 Kwaye oko kukukodwa kwezi zitofu zokugonya ze-mRNA. 26:08.160 --> 26:11.869 Kwaye ke unako ngokwenene, andazi ukuba uvakalelwa njani ngayo. 26:11.869 --> 26:17.850 Kodwa lo mgaqo, ezisekwe kuwo izitofu zokugonya ze-mRNA, wahluke ngokupheleleyo kwizitofu 26:17.850 --> 26:21.840 zokugonya eziqhelekileyo ebesizazi ukuza kuthi ga ngoku. 26:21.840 --> 26:25.322 Ungakwazi mhlawumbi ukuzoba loo mgca kwakhona ngandlela ithile? 26:25.322 --> 26:30.980 Yintoni, yintoni ngoku – kanye kanye – ungakwazi nokuthetha 'isitofu sokugonya', ndiyabuza kwangoko. 26:30.980 --> 26:37.480 Ewe, andinokuyibiza ngokuba sisitofu sokugonya, kodwa kum ndifumana ulwelo olufakwa emzimbeni. 26:37.480 --> 26:44.070 Kuba iingenelo zesi sigonyo kuthiwa sinjalo zilinganiselwe kakhulu. 26:44.070 --> 26:50.432 Kwaye xa ndibona umonakalo omkhulu abawenzayo, ndicinga ukuba kufuneka zisuswe ezindleleni ngokupheleleyo. 26:50.432 --> 26:55.876 Kwaye nam ndingaphinda ndilumke kakhulu ngazo zonke ezinye izitofu zokugonya ezizayo 26:55.876 --> 27:00.580 ezisekelwe kwi-mRNA, kuba azivavanywanga ngokwaneleyo. 27:00.580 --> 27:05.024 Oku ke kuya kukhokelela kwiziphumo ezifanayo. 27:05.024 --> 27:12.408 Ewe, yinto ekufuneka siyikhumbule ngokuqinisekileyo, ingakumbi kwiingxelo zamajelo eendaba, ukuba le 27:12.408 --> 27:16.303 yindlela entsha, yale mihla, nephucukileyo yokugonya. 27:16.303 --> 27:19.003 Akululanga ukuyicazulula. 27:19.003 --> 27:26.108 Ngoko ke le yinto entsha ngokupheleleyo, engakhange izibonakalise kakuhle ukuza kuthi ga ngoku, 27:26.108 --> 27:29.888 ukuba ndingatsho. Chanekile ngokupheleleyo, ewe. 27:29.888 --> 27:34.320 Ewe. Ngoku masibuyele kwincwadi yakho. 27:34.320 --> 27:40.348 Uthe wena – ufake ixesha elininzi nomgudu kuyo. 27:40.348 --> 27:47.943 Zeziphi iimpendulo eninqwenela ukuzifumana xa oku kusasazwayo? 27:47.943 --> 27:53.620 Ngoku ilungele ukuprintwa kwaye iza kufumaneka kungekudala. 27:53.620 --> 27:57.700 Uthemba luhlobo luni lwempendulo yoluntu? 27:57.700 --> 28:06.104 Ngoko ke, ndiyathemba ukuba iingcali ze-pathology, oko kukuthi iingcali ze-pathology okanye zonyango 28:06.104 --> 28:13.600 lwezobugebenga, ziya kuzijonga ezi ziphumo ziya kuqonda ukuba zisenokungabonakali lula. 28:13.600 --> 28:17.920 Oko kuthetha ukuba kufuneka uphande ngokwenene. Akunakwenza nje ukugqobhoza kwezi zithibo uze uthi, 28:17.920 --> 28:21.363 "Owu, andiboni nto apha." Kufuneka uphande ngokwenene. 28:21.363 --> 28:26.607 Kwaye njengoko benditshilo ngaphambili, nokufunyanwa okuncinci kakhulu nokungacacanga 28:26.607 --> 28:30.163 kunokukhokelela kutshintsho olukhulu kumgangatho wobomi. 28:30.163 --> 28:33.780 Ngoko ke kubaluleke kakhulu ukuba kujongwe ngenyameko apho. 28:33.780 --> 28:40.370 Yinto enye leyo, yokuba iingcali zokuhlola izifo ziya zivuswa – ngoko ke yintoni enye ekhoyo? 28:40.370 --> 28:43.980 Kuba kusoloko kunjalo ukuba into endingayaziyo, andiyiboni. 28:43.980 --> 28:49.443 Kwaye ke, ngokuqinisekileyo, le ncwadi ikwalungele noogqirha abavela kwezinye iinkalo. 28:49.443 --> 28:54.080 Kwaye nakwabo bangengobasebenzi bezonyango abanomdla kwimpilo. 28:54.080 --> 29:05.184 Ezi ngxelo zeemeko zibonisa ngokucacileyo ukubandezeleka okubangelwe ngaba kuthiwa ziigonyo. 29:05.184 --> 29:10.476 Ngoko ke, ndingayiodola le ncwadi kuwe ngoku, ukuba ndingatsho njalo. 29:10.476 --> 29:16.733 Kwaye kuqala kwakho, ndiye ndazijonga ngokwam, nanjengomntu ongenguye ingcali – into 29:16.733 --> 29:20.920 eyayinokuqondakala ngokupheleleyo kwinqanaba elithile. 29:20.920 --> 29:27.576 Ndingakwazi ukuya nje kugqirha wam ngoku ndithi, "Nantsi, sisipho esivela kum, nceda sijongile." 29:27.576 --> 29:35.040 Okanye yintoni enye endingayenza nalo le ncwadi ngaphandle nje kokuyifunda? 29:35.040 --> 29:43.290 Ewe, loo nto ayisiyonto imbi ncam. Kuba kusekho oogqirha abaneleyo abazinika ezi zinto, bade baqonde inyaniso 29:43.290 --> 29:47.585 yokuba ninyani nibangela abantu umonakalo omkhulu kakhulu. 29:47.585 --> 29:50.112 Kwaye asikokuba yinkathala kuphela, bayafa nabo. 29:50.112 --> 29:53.312 Abantu bayabulawa zezi zitofu. 29:53.312 --> 29:58.848 Ekugqibeleni, ungathanda ukongeza amagama ambalwa abaluleke ngokukodwa kuwe? 29:58.848 --> 30:02.720 Ewe. Ndingathanda ukuthetha la mazwi kubaphulaphuli. 30:02.720 --> 30:14.754 Ndingathanda kakhulu abantu babe nomdla, benze uphando lwabo kwi-intanethi, baze bangakholelwa kuyo 30:14.754 --> 30:22.660 yonke into abayibonayo, ngamanye amazwi, baziphathele. 30:22.660 --> 30:34.990 Kwaye ndingathanda ukubona uthando olungakumbi kuluntu lwethu luphela, kwaye kubekho imvisiswano noxolo. 30:34.990 --> 30:39.950 Kwaye ndingathanda ukuba sibuyele kakhulu kwintliziyo yethu. 30:39.950 --> 30:48.833 Oku kuthetha ukuba siphuma siye kwindalo size simamele nje iimvakalelo zethu zangaphakathi. 30:48.833 --> 30:52.340 Enkosi kakhulu, Nkosazana Krüger, ngala mazwi achukumisayo kakhulu. 30:52.340 --> 30:56.510 Kwaye ke ngoko, siyahamba kuwe sisuka kwisitudiyo saseBerlin. 30:56.510 --> 31:00.300 Yonke enye inkcazelo inokufunyanwa ikhonjisiwe ngezantsi kwale nkqubo. 31:00.300 --> 31:04.933 Kwaye njengoko benditshilo, yenzani ngokukhutheleyo. Enkosi kakhulu.