WEBVTT 00:05.120 --> 00:08.100 Sawubona, nginguKarina waseTorgau. 00:08.100 --> 00:11.940 Mhlawumbe uyakhumbula lesi sithombe encwadini yakho yomlando. 00:11.940 --> 00:18.760 Ibonisa amasosha aseRussia nawaseMelika bekhothana izandla ngo-Ephreli 1945 ogwini loMfula i-Elbe eTorgau. 00:18.760 --> 00:23.100 Lokhu kwaba yizihloko ezinkulu emhlabeni wonke ngaleso sikhathi futhi kumela ukuphela kweMpi Yezwe Yesibili. 00:23.100 --> 00:28.104 Ngesikhathi ngisemncane e-GDR, ngakwazi ukuhlangana noJoe Polowski nabanye abaveterani bempi 00:28.104 --> 00:31.328 mathupha, ngoba kwakukhona isiko lokukhumbula. 00:31.328 --> 00:36.163 Ngikholelwa mathupha ukuthi wonke umuntu uphethe isithunzi sobunkulunkulu ngaphakathi kwakhe. 00:36.163 --> 00:42.420 Yingakho ngizonda ukubulala kanye nephropaganda engachazeki esivuselela ukungezwani phakathi kwethu. 00:42.420 --> 00:47.680 Ngiyenqaba ukuthatha uhlangothi kunoma iyiphi iqembu. 00:47.680 --> 00:54.400 Ngoba empini ngayinye, amadodana nabobaba bayafa kuzo zombili izinhlangothi, kodwa labo abaphethe impi abasoze bafa. 00:54.400 --> 00:58.391 Ukuhlangana e-Elbe kwenzeka eminyakeni engaphansi kwengu-80 edlule, futhi manje uNgqongqoshe 00:58.391 --> 01:01.140 Wezokuvikela uPistorius uphinde ashaya amagubhu empini. 01:01.140 --> 01:05.600 Wathi, "Kumele silungele impi ngo-2029." 01:05.600 --> 01:11.239 Futhi ngicaphuna uNgqongqoshe wangaphambilini uGabriel: "Sidinga ukuthumela isignali ecacile 01:11.239 --> 01:14.900 kuPutin: Yeka le mpi – noma sizoyiletha kuwe." 01:14.900 --> 01:18.400 Ngakho ngizibuza: 'thina' ngempela siyobani? 01:18.400 --> 01:21.323 UGabriel noPistorius ngempela cha. 01:21.323 --> 01:24.130 Kungenzeka kakhulu ukuthi kubhekisele kumyeni wami nezindodana zami. 01:24.130 --> 01:32.480 Lokhu kungihlupha, ngoba ngazi ngeziganeko zempi nokuphela kwayo ngokwezindaba zabokhokho bami nezihlobo zami. 01:32.480 --> 01:35.520 Nazi ezinye izibonelo: 01:35.520 --> 01:39.104 Umkhulu wami wabizwa ukuba ingxenye yeWehrmacht eneminyaka engu-17. 01:39.104 --> 01:44.480 Ngaphandle kwentando yakhe, ngoba wayeseqedile ukuqeqeshwa kwakhe futhi wayefuna ukuthatha umshini wokugaya kukayise. 01:44.480 --> 01:48.640 Washona eneminyaka engu-19 eboshwe eRussia. 01:48.640 --> 01:54.120 Umama wami wayehlala ekhumbula, ekhala, ukuthi washiya ifamu enezinyembezi emehlweni akhe egqoke iyunifomu. 01:54.120 --> 01:58.260 Abazange baphinde babonane, futhi akazange athole ukuthi wangcwazelwa kuphi. 01:58.260 --> 02:03.720 Njengentombazane encane ekupheleni kwempi, yena uqobo wahlala esinqeni somphathi wempi waseRussia. 02:03.720 --> 02:08.186 Igama lakhe kwakungu-Irene, futhi wayemthanda kakhulu ngoba wayemkhumbuza indodakazi 02:08.186 --> 02:10.656 yakhe, u-Irena, ekhaya, ayemkhumbula kakhulu. 02:10.656 --> 02:13.344 Wamgcina enhlanyelweni enhle. 02:13.344 --> 02:19.090 Ngasikhathi sinye, udadewabo omdala (umakazi wami) wazifihla izinsuku emuva kwesibhozo sokhuni ophahleni 02:19.090 --> 02:24.960 lwendlu evela ezinkulunye zeSotshili zaseSoviet, ezazenze ukuhlukumeza okwesabekayo emzaneni wabo. 02:24.960 --> 02:31.520 Amasosha ayeqhubeka ethatha izinkuni kuleli thimba, kanti yena ezama ukubeka izinkuni ezintsha phezulu ngemuva. 02:31.520 --> 02:36.080 Eseyiminyaka engaphezu kwengu-80 ubudala, wangitshela: "Lapho ngafunda khona ukuthandaza!" 02:36.080 --> 02:43.176 Futhi wangichazela izono zempi eziningi ezenziwe yizo zonke izinhlangothi empini ngaphandle kokukhethwa. 02:43.176 --> 02:48.154 Kungenzeka ukuthi umfilosofi waseGrisi u-Antisthenes wayelungile lapho ebhala: "Impi 02:48.154 --> 02:51.900 idala abantu ababi abaningi kunalabo eyisusa." 02:51.900 --> 02:58.065 Umama wami wangitshela futhi ukuthi isibhakabhaka sakhanya sibomvu ngesikhathi iDresden ibhoshwa; umndeni wakhe 02:58.065 --> 03:01.520 wawusakwazi ukusibona usuka emzaneni oseduze neTorgau. 03:01.520 --> 03:07.340 Ubaba wami wakhumbula umsindo wokudubula owawenzeka lapha eTorgau njalo ekuseni. 03:07.340 --> 03:13.248 ETorgau, amasosha aseJalimane abenqabile imiyalelo babengabanye kulabo ababulawa. 03:13.248 --> 03:18.782 Kungenzeka ukuthi kwakungaphakathi konyaka ka-1943 no-1945, lapho iNkantolo Yezempi yeReich 03:18.782 --> 03:22.340 yathuthelwa eBerlin yaya eFort Zinna eTorgau. 03:22.340 --> 03:26.480 Ubaba wami wayeneminyaka ecishe ibe ngu-13 ngaleso sikhathi. 03:26.480 --> 03:30.536 Umkhulu wami wangeniswa kuphela ku-Volkssturm ngenxa yengozi. 03:30.536 --> 03:34.016 Wabanjwa ngamaMelika wathunyelwa eLimburg an der Lahn. 03:34.016 --> 03:39.703 Lapho ebuyile, wayenesisindo esingu-54 amakhilogremu futhi wayemalunga nemitha engu-1.80 ukuphakama. 03:39.703 --> 03:45.560 Wathola umkakhe, owashiya eyisifazane onezinwele eziphuzi, manje eneminwele emhlophe. 03:45.560 --> 03:51.950 Iqiniso ukuthi thina amaJalimane sifunde ezimpini zombili zomhlaba, nokuthi kwakukhona uhlobo lwesiko 03:51.950 --> 03:58.624 lokukhumbula e-GDR yangaphambilini, okwamanje okuqhuba abantu baseTorgau ukuba basebenzele ukuthula. 03:58.624 --> 04:06.073 Noma kungase kuzwakale kuyiphupho elingokoqobo futhi kungakaze kusebenze emlandweni, ngiphupha ukuthi ngelinye 04:06.073 --> 04:10.940 ilanga ngeke kube nempi ngoba thina bantu siyala ukuba izitha. 04:10.940 --> 04:14.920 Singumndeni owodwa wabantu, isidalwa esikhulu sabantu. 04:14.920 --> 04:20.448 Futhi ngiyacela zonke omama emhlabeni wonke: zihlabeni izincwadi zokubizwa! 04:20.448 --> 04:26.336 Ngiyacela bonke amadoda emhlabeni wonke: uma bebhonga izigubhu zempi futhi, ningayi! 04:26.336 --> 04:30.176 Mhlawumbe ungabhalela manje ukuze ubatshele ukuthi ngeke ube nokuncintisana. 04:30.176 --> 04:36.320 Futhi ngiyacela kini nonke: ningavumeli ukushukumiselwa ukuba nibe nobutha kwabanye abantu! 04:36.320 --> 04:41.246 Ungalaleli amanga abo nephropaganda yabo, kodwa lalela inhliziyo yakho!