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Isitratshara esongezelelweyo esili-14 okanye i-16
xa kuthelekiswa neminyaka emithathu edlulileyo.

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Kulungile ukuba bayenze loo nto okwangoku, kuba kunyaka
ophelileyo, kunyaka ongaphambi kwawo kunye nonyaka ongaphambi

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koko, sasisele sinomlinganiselo ophezulu kakhulu wokufa.

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Kwaye ngoku kwakhona phezu kwako konke oko. Esona sizathu sethu
siphambili sokufa apha kwikhaya lethu

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lemingcwabo isekule kankere ye-turbo. Kwaye ke
isatifikethi sokufa sathi nje "usweleke eno-C".

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Asizange sibe namatyala ka-"An (C ongasekhoyo)". Besinetyala
elinye lika-"An" emva kokuqaliswa kwaye, njengoko benditshilo,

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indoda yayineminyaka engaphezu kwama-80 ubudala kwaye
yayiziintsuku ezili-14 emva kwesitofu sokugonya

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esongezelelweyo. Kodwa eneneni sasinelo elo tyala linye kuphela.

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Ekuqaleni kuka-2022, kwaqala ngabantu abatsha ababefumanise
umhlaza we-turbo. Kwaye kwabakho iimeko ezikhawuleza kakhulu.

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Eyona nto isikhawulezileyo esakha sayifumana
yayingamaveki amahlanu ukusukela ekufunyanisweni kwesifo.

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Usweleke emva kweeveki ezintlanu, masithi?

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Ewe, kwaye omnye umenzi wamangcwaba usand'
ukundixelela ukuba kwiintsuku ezimbini emva

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kokuba umfi exelelwe ukuba unomhlaza, wasweleka.

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Ewe, bayawa nje. Bayafa ke. Akukhathaliseki nokuba
bahleli kwindlu yangasese okanye balele

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ebhedini. Kuyamangalisa kakhulu. Sele kuxhaphake ngakumbi.

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Anditsho ukuba ayizange yenzeke ngaphambili, ukuba
umntu uye waba nentliza entliziyweni esabaleka

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okanye into enjalo, okanye esenza umsebenzi wokudada.

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Kodwa hayi rhoqo njengoku. Ayenzeki loo
nto. Abantu abasafafi ngendlela eqhelekileyo.

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Abantu abambalwa kakhulu bathi kum, "Andiqapheli nto, andinanto."
Kodwa uninzi lwabantu endithetha nabo, abo baye bafumana

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unyango lwemfuza, bonke banolwono oluthile kwaye abasaphilanga.

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Nokuba kungenxa yengxaki yemithambo-luvo okanye hayi,
abanye abantu bayanyanyaza. Kwaye eyona nto indimangalisayo

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yeyokuba abaninzi kubo banengxaki zesisu nemathumbu.

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Kwaye into endiyibonileyo kukuba kwiimeko ezininzi
apho kunjalo, nezilwanyana zasekhaya ziyayiphethayo nayo.

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Wamkelekile kudliwano-ndlebe lwanamhlanje. Igama lam ndinguSören
Schumann kwaye namhlanje ndidlala-ndlebe noMarlies Spuler.

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Kwaye namhlanje sithetha ngento oye wayibona wena,
njengomgcini-nqaba, kumsebenzi wakho wemihla ngemihla

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kwezi nyanga zimbalwa zidlulileyo, kodwa kananjalo
nakwiminyaka embalwa edlulileyo. Sele sishicilele ividiyo kunye.

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Ndiyifake kabini kuba kwafuneka ndiyisuse kanye ndize
ndiphinde ndiyifake kwakhona inguqulelo ecinezelwe ngakumbi.

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Kwaye zombini ezi vidiyo zikhe zafumana
ababukeli abaphantse babe yisigidi, ndicinga

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njalo. Mhlawumbi zide zadlula nesigidi sababukeli.

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Ngoko ke kubonakala ngathi kukho umdla
omkhulu kulwazi lwakho okanye kwimbono yakho.

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Kwaye ndinomdla wokuva ukuba kwenzeke ntoni ukusukela kwincoko
yethu yokugqibela. Sele kudlule iinyanga ezininzi ngoku.

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Ewe, kwaye nawe ungumlandeli. Ubelandela ezi
ziganeko, ebezisenzeka ukusukela ngo-2019,

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2020, ngokucokisekileyo ukusukela ekuqaleni.

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Ewe, yintoni enye abantu abafanele bayazi
ngawe phambi kokuba singene kulo mxholo?

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Ngam? Enyanisweni usitshilo sonke, kwaye
ndicinga ukuba uninzi lwabantu sele lundazi ngoku.

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Ndifumana i-fan mail eninzi nge-imeyile.
Ndifumana iifowuni, kuyaphithizela, kumnandi.

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Enyanisweni, akukho mntu unqekayo kwaphela.

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Ngoko ke, yonke into ihamba kakuhle, kwaye abanye kancinci
kancinci bayaphuma ekuzivaleleni baze bathethe

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ngokukhululekileyo ngayo yonke le nto.
Kwiimeko ezininzi ngabantu abaye bonzakaliswa yiyo.

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Ngubani ke othetha nawe, ukuthetha ngathi.

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Ewe, kanye. Ngandlel' ithile bafumanise ukuba
sinabantu esinxibelelana nabo, kuquka oogqirha njalo njalo.

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Baze ke bathethe nam ngqo ngayo, kuxhomekeke kwingxaki abajongene
nayo, nokuba yintoni enokwenziwa ngayo, nokuba

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ndiyamazi na umntu onokubanceda. Kwaye ndisoloko
ndibathumela koogqirha bemithi yendalo nabanye abanjalo, ewe.

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Kulungile, kuhle kakhulu. Ngethuba
lokurekhoda, ngoku sekupheliswa kuka-Agasti 2024.

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Ungazishwankathela njani le minyaka imbalwa idlulileyo, mhlawumbi
ungazityhila ngokweminyaka okanye ukhankanye

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iziganeko ezithile zalo nyaka?
Ungayishwankathela njani ngokufutshane nangokucacileyo?

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Zaziphini ezona zigaba zibalulekileyo notshintsho
emsebenzini wakho, ngokumalunga nomthwalo wakho

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womsebenzi kunye nokuba kwakufuneka usebenze kangakanani?

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Ndingavuya ukunika uluvo lwam ngaloo nto. Ndiza kunika
isishwankathelo esifutshane kakhulu ukuze wonke umntu abuyelane.

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Ngoko ke ngo-2020, asizange sibe naziphi na
izinto ezingaqhelekanga, nyhani akukho

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nanye. Enyanisweni besinomsebenzi omncinci, ewe.

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Kwaye kuthi, izinto zaphucuka kakhulu xa kwaziswa
'unyango'. Injalo nje. Kwaye ekuqaleni,

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yayingabantu abadala kuphela ababefela ngamanani amakhulu.

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Kwaye kwaphawuleka ngokwenene xa kwafika
ixesha labo ababenemeko yezempilo esele bekhona,

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xa bebesiya kwidinga labo (lokugonywa i-COVID).

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Kuba ke kwenzeka ezi kufa
zingxamisekileyo, ezingalindelekanga. Zisanda zisanda!

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Ewe

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Kanye

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Kwaye ke yaqhubeka nje isinga-singa.

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Sasinokufakwa nje kwenqaku elithi "uswelekile eno-C"
de kwaziswa unyango. Emva koko, kwaphela ngequbuliso.

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Emva koko yayeka ukuvela kwiitifiketi zokufa. Mhlawumbi
kanye okanye kabini. Asikayifumani kwaphela kulo nyaka.

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Ngoko ke kubonakala ngathi akusekho bantu bafa ngenxa yayo.

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Kulungile, ungakwenza kwakhona ngokukhawuleza?

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Oko kuyavuyisa kakhulu.

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Ungathanda ukuphawula ngokufutshane malunga nento
ethi "wafa ngenxa ye-C kwaye ene-C"? Kwakukho

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impikiswano ngale nto ekuqaleni, kubonakala ngathi:

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Ufumana ingozi yemoto, usweleke ngenxa yayo, kodwa uvavanywe
waboniswa ukuba une-C ngovavanyo olungathembekanga,

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uze ke uthathwe ngokuba usweleke "ngenxa ye-C" okanye
"ene-C". Mhlawumbi ungayiphinda loo nto ngokufutshane.

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Ewe, kaloku yayikwiizibhedlele kuphela, hayi
ekhaya kwaphela. Ngoko ke yayikho apho kuphela.

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Ewe.

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Kwaye ekuqaleni, andazi ukuba kutheni, babefakile
iingxelo. Kwaye zaziqulethe imbali yezonyango

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yesigulana, oko kukuthi, iminyaka yabo, isini, njalo njalo.

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Kwaye ke kwalandela isizathu sokuba angeniswe
esibhedlele, into abayenzileyo apho, kunye

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nento ekugqibeleni eyabangela ukusweleka kwakhe.

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Kwaye ke, kwakusoloko kukho isivakalisi
esithetha nje ukuba umfi ufunyaniswe enayo i-C.

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Kwaye ke isatifikethi sokufa sathi nje "umfi
one-C". Asizange sibe nento "umfi one-C"

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kwaphela. Sabakho "one-C" kanye emva kokuba isazisiwe.

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Kwaye njengoko benditshilo, indoda ibineminyaka
engaphezu kwama-80 kwaye kwakuli iintsuku

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ezili-14 emva kwesitofu sokugonyela esongezelelweyo.

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Kulungile.

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Wasweleka. Kodwa oko kwenzeka kanye kuphela.

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Kodwa ke, njengoko benditshilo, emva kokwaziswa
'kwe-therapy', yema. Ngandlel' ithile, loo nto

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ayisafumaneki kwiitifiketi zokufa. Yanyamalala nje.

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Ivela kuphela kwabo bangaphangeliweyo. Ewe,
"abashonileyo be-C". Kanye, nathi siyibonile loo nto.

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Kuba bekufuneka siyijonge kancinci loo nto ekuqaleni,
kuba kwakusekho imithetho ye-2G kwiiholo zomngcwabo.

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Kanye. Kwaye ke bendisoloko ndinokubuza kancinci ngayo,

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encokweni, njengoko imeko yabantu ngabanye injalo.

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Ewe.

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Kanye. Kwaye ke bendisoloko ndinokubuza kancinci
ngayo, encokweni, ukuze ndazi imeko yabantu ngabanye.

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Kanye. Baze basixelela nje, saza nathi sayaqonda.

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Kanye. Emva koko, njengoko benditshilo, kwavela umba
wabantu abanezifo ababekade benazo. Ewe, oko kwakungexesha

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eliphakathi lika-2021, malunga noMeyi okanye uJuni, ndicinga.

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Kwaza ke kwanda abantu abanjalo – abantu ababequleka besahamba,
ababehluleka ebhayisikileni, okanye ababefunyanwa beswelekele

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emibhedeni yabo ekuseni, begqibele ubomi babo ngoxolo beselalini.

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Oko kwakusisithuba nje seenyanga ezimbalwa
emva kokuba izitofu ziqalise ukuxhaphaka.

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Emva kweentsuku ezilishumi.

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Iintsuku ezilishumi?

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Iintsuku ezilishumi. Ewe, ndingatsho loo nto ngokuchanekileyo.
Kwakusoloko zizintsuku ezilishumi emva koko, eneneni.

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Kulungile.

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Kwakumangalisa ngokwenene.

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Kanye. Kwakufuneka nje sijonge ukuba baza
kusinika nini isigxobo esilandelayo. Emva koko

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safumanisa ukuba kwiiveki ezimbini siza kuba nomsebenzi.

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Kwaye oko bekungekho, masithi, kule, yintoni
leyo, ingxelo yokufa? Luthiwa ntoni olu xwebhu?

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Ewe, bekukho isicatshulwa sesigulana apho. Andazi.

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Ewe, kodwa ke mhlawumbi kwakungekho nto kuko
ngaloo nto, akunjalo? Ukuba kunokubakho unxulumano?

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Hayi, hayi, hayi, hayi. Ayizange ithethe nto injalo.

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Kulungile.

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Hayi.

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Njengoko benditshilo, bekukho oogqirha, kwaye
basekho, abaphawula "isizathu sokufa asaziwa"

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kwisatifikethi sokufa baze babhale njengesizathu sokufa...

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... Le sirinji?

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… kanye, amalungiselelo apho.

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Kwaye ke kubakho ukuxhuzula . Ewe, kwaye
ekuqaleni, kanye ekuqaleni, kwenziwa uhlolo lomzimba.

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Kodwa ngelishwa, olu hlolo lwezidumbu belusoloko luthetha kuphela
ukuma kwentliziyo okanye i-thrombosis okanye isitrowuku, nokuba

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yintoni na. Kodwa loo nxulumano ayizange iphantsi kwephupha.

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Kwaye ngoku, ukuba sisene-meko enjalo – banqabe kakhulu
oogqirha abanobuganga bokuyibhala ngolu hlobo – idla

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ngokugutyungelwa ngokuthe ngqo yi-ofisi yomtshutshisi woluntu.

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Akukho kuthathwa kwanto kwaphela. Amapolisa athetha
ngokufutshane ne-ofisi yomtshutshisi woluntu, okanye

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nantoni na, nokuba isebenza njani na, kwaye ke kudlula nje.

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Ngoko uthetha ukuthi okwethutyana ngoku,
iinyanga ezimbalwa, akusekho msindo xa

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kusithiwa kunjalo apho ngaphakathi. Hayi, kanye.

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Kodwa ibinjalo kwasekuqaleni, ukuba kunjalo?

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Ewe, ekuqaleni kanye, kodwa kuphela ukuba ibikho
apho. Bambalwa kakhulu abantu ababefuna uhlolo lomzimba.

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Kwaye ukuba yile nto abazalwana abayifunayo,
kwakufuneka siqale sifumane indawo. Kwaye sikwanazo

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nemihla ebekiweyo yokungcwaba ekufuneka siyithobele.

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Ewe, kufuneka ngokwenene kungcwatywe okanye
kutshiswe kwisithuba seentsuku ezilishumi.

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Kanye.

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Ewe, kwaye kunzima ukulungiselela uhlolo lomzimba ngeli xesha.

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Kwaye ukuba ayiyalelwanga ngabasemagunyeni, ngoko ke wena
njengomzala – okanye thina njengabameli bezihlobo –

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kufuneka ke nisebenze ekwandiseni imihla ebekiweyo njalo njalo.

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Kwaye nezo zibiza imali. Yonke into ibiza imali, ewe. Emva
koko kufuneka indawo apho kunokwenziwa khona uvavanyo lomzimba.

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Kwaye, kwakhona, ufuna umntu onokuyihlola ngokucokisekileyo.

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Ewe, kunzima ukufumana indawo. Kwaye no-Arne
Burkhardt, lukhulu olulahlekileyo, ngokuqinisekileyo.

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Kwaye uGqr. Ute Krüger, obemncedisa
kwi-autopsies, useSweden kwaye akanakubhabha eze

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ngalo lonke ixesha kufuneka kwenziwe i-autopsy.

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Kanye. Kwaye ke kudla imali, akunjalo? Awunako
ukusoloko unyanzela abantu ukuba basebenze ungabahlawuli.

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Yiloo nto ke. . . Ewe, banazo iindleko
zeenqwelo-moya, iindleko zohambo, neendleko zokuhlala.

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Ndithetha ukuthi, kufuneka zihlawulwe kwinqanaba elithile.

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Ngoko ke, apha eJamani, bambalwa abantu
abakwaziyo oku kakuhle, masithi, kule meko kanye?

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Kanye, kunzima. Ndiyazi. Ngelishwa, nam andinazo
iikontaki ezininzi kangako. I-MWDFG ibisoloko

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iyindawo endiqhagamshelana nayo, evela ku-Arne Burkhardt.

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Kodwa okwangoku abanabo oogqirha abanokwenza
uhlolo lomzimba. Kwaye yiyo loo nto kungelutho nje.

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Ewe, nguArne Burkhardt obesebenze kakhulu apho. Kuhlolo
lomzimba, kodwa ke wasweleka kungekudala emva koko, akunjalo?

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Kanye, ewe. Utshonelwe yingozi yokuqubha, ewe.
Ndicinga ukuba kwenzeke xa wayezama ukusindisa unyana wakhe.

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Kulungile.

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Ngoko ke, ibali liyileyo. Masiyiyeke injalo.

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… Kulungile.

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Ewe.

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Ewe, iyimfihlakalo ngandlel' ithile. Andikayiphandi le
nto yokusweleka, ngoko andinakuthetha nto ngayo, kodwa...

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Yiyo kuphela into endiyifundileyo ngayo. I-intanethi
ibizele yiyo, kodwa ndomnye umsebenzi ekufuneka ndiwenzile.

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: Ewe.

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Kulungile. Ndicinga ukuba ngoku
siphakathi kuka-2021 okanye u-2021...

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Kanye.

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… kungekudala emva kokuba iijekisi ziqalile.
Kwaza kwenzeka ntoni emva koko? Zazikhona

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ezinye iinkqubela ezichulumancisayo ezithile?

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Kwaza kwaqala – ndingatsho ukuba oko kwakusele
kuli-2021, ekupheleni kuka-2021, ekuqaleni kuka-2022 – kwaza

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kwaqala kuthi, kubantu abatsha ababefune i-turbo cancer.

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Kwaye bekukho iimeko ezikhawuleza kakhulu.
Eyona ikhawulezayo esasinayo yayingamaveki

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amahlanu ukusukela ekufunyanisweni kwesifo.

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Usweleke emva kweeveki ezintlanu, masithi?

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Ewe, kanye.

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Kwaye umgqirha wam ngowesibini usandixelele ukuba
emva kweentsuku ezimbini ukusukela oko umfi waxelelwa

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ukuba unomhlaza, usweleke. Ngoko ke ziintsuku ezimbini.

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Awazi nje ukuba kudala kangakanani enalo. Kule mihla, kufuneka
ulinde ixesha elide kakhulu ukuze ufumane idinga likagqirha.

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Ewe. Sisabona oko. Ngelishwa, yile nto kanye esisajongene nayo.

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Kwaye into esiye sanayo izihlandlo eziliqela
kulo nyaka kukubeleka kwangoko kwinyanga yesine.

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Kulungile, kodwa ingaba bekunjalo
kwiminyaka edlulileyo? Okanye akunjalo?

13:23.521 --> 13:30.097
Hayi rhoqo. Kwaye ixesha elininzi, yayingabantwana
ababekhule kakhulu esiswini, ababeza kuthiwa bazalwe, okanye

13:30.097 --> 13:34.190
abasweleka ngexesha lokubeleka okanye kamsinya emva kokubeleka.

13:34.190 --> 13:38.723
Kwakusenzeka kanye ngonyaka okanye qho
emva kweminyaka emibini, ndingatsho.

13:38.723 --> 13:39.680
Kulungile.

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Kanye, uncokola nabanye abalungisi bamangcwaba.

13:45.400 --> 13:53.122
Kufuneka nditsho ukuba kusekho abambalwa ababona
izinto njengoko zinjalo. Kwaye mna ndingumngcwabi

13:53.122 --> 13:57.260
ongajwayelekanga, ngoko ke bayaxoxa ngam emva kwam.

13:57.260 --> 14:01.376
Ndivakalelayo ngayo. Asikokuba andazi.

14:01.376 --> 14:08.540
Kuyinyani ukuba abantu abaninzi abazi ukuba abantu bamele
icala elithile. Baze bathethe ngqo ngayo xa besazi umntu.

14:08.540 --> 14:13.465
Kodwa awusoze wazi ukuba bayazi kangakanani na.
Ewe, kunjalo nje. Enyanisweni, ndisebenzisana kakuhle

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nabo bonke abasebenzi bokungcwaba kwingingqi yethu.

14:16.512 --> 14:21.900
Ewe, kunjalo. Siyavana kwaye
ndifumana kulula kakhulu ukuncokola nabo.

14:21.900 --> 14:26.700
Ewe, kwaye kulungile ukuba omnye umntu
akubona ngenye indlela. Andifuni kunyanzelisa uluvo

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lwethu kumntu. Yinto nje esiyifumanayo apha.

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Ndingathetha kuphela egameni lethu, kwaye oku
kusekelwe kwingxelo endiyifumeneyo kwabanye oogxa.

14:34.573 --> 14:37.312
Ndingathanda nje ukucacisa kancinci ngaloo nto.

14:37.312 --> 14:43.700
Kwisithando sethu somlilo, sihlala
sibona amakufi abantwana abancinci.

14:43.700 --> 14:47.788
Ewe, kwaye ke wazi kakade ukuba kwenzeka
ntoni. Ziza ngeesayizi ezahlukeneyo kwaye

14:47.788 --> 14:51.240
ziingcwaba zeembungu, ezidla ngokushiywa zimi nje apho.

14:51.240 --> 14:55.922
Kwilizwe lethu, imeko nje yeyokuba abantwana
abancinci okanye iintsana/iifetasi abanobunzima

14:55.922 --> 14:59.746
obungaphantsi kwe-500 grams abangafakelwa umngcwabo.

14:59.746 --> 15:05.984
Kwaye yonke into eyenzeka phambi koko,
andiqinisekanga kakuhle ukuba kwenzeka ntoni kuyo.

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Ngokusesikweni, baya "kwindlu yokukhulela iinkwenkwezi".

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Ngumbono omhle nakubazali, kananjalo. Kodwa
njengoko benditshilo, seso isizathu sokuba ungawuvi

15:16.939 --> 15:20.986
rhoqo xa kusinyamalala abantwana abancinci kangaka.

15:20.986 --> 15:28.838
Kanye. Ixesha elininzi, ngabantu abatsha abasandul' ukutshata
abakudala belindele ukuba nomntwana. Ixesha elininzi, baye

15:28.838 --> 15:37.640
baba nethamsanqa elibi izihlandlo ezininzi. Baze bafuna nje
ukungcwaba uthuthu; bafuna isidanga somntwana wabo. Kanye.

15:37.640 --> 15:43.042
Ewe, kwaye loo nto ibingenzeki kabini okanye kathathu ngonyaka.
Loo nto ibingenzeki. Yayenzeka qho emva

15:43.042 --> 15:48.580
kweminyaka emibini okanye emithathu. Kwaye abantwana
babedla ngokuba bakhulile, bengancinci kangako.

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Kwaye ngoku, sele kusukela nini le nto isenzeka rhoqo ngakumbi?

15:51.120 --> 15:56.469
Kokokuqala kusenzeka oku kuthi. Bendisele ndiyazi ngako
kubo abanye abasebenza kulo msebenzi ababenako kunyaka

15:56.469 --> 16:00.320
ophelileyo. Kodwa kuthe safikelela kuthi kulo nyaka nje.

16:00.320 --> 16:05.916
Kulungile. Kwenzeke ntoni kwiminyaka elandelayo? Ukususela
ngo-2022, 2023 kwaye nangoku kude kube

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sekupheleni kuka-Agasti 2024? Ungakwazi
ukusishwankathela ngokufutshane kwaye usicacisele imeko yoko?

16:11.648 --> 16:18.060
Ewe, ndingatsho ukuba eyona nzulu
yendlela yokufa eneneni lo mhlaza we-turbo.

16:18.060 --> 16:23.436
Kwaye zonke iintlobo zezinto: umhlaza wamabele
kubafazi abangaphezulu kweminyaka engama-80 ubudala. Ewe,

16:23.436 --> 16:26.205
sithethe noogqirha abathi oku akufanelanga ukuba kwenzeke.

16:26.205 --> 16:33.680
Kuyo yonke imisebenzi yabo yobungcali,
abazange babe nosinina omdala onomhlaza wamabele.

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Kwaye nazo zisweleka kwiiveki nje ezimbalwa.
Kwaye sibona ukuba xa silungisa umfi, xa

16:39.376 --> 16:42.885
simenza ukuba akulungele, sibona into eyenzekileyo.

16:42.885 --> 16:49.559
Ewe, siyabona amabele aloo nkosikazi. Andizange
ndibone into enje ngaphambili. Yinto yobuyatha leyo.

16:49.559 --> 16:57.680
Ewe, abantu abaninzi banomhlaza wamathumbu nokunye,
ezi ntlobo zomhlaza ezisasazeka ngokukhawuleza okukhulu.

16:57.680 --> 17:05.427
Ewe, bantu – kudla ngokuqala nge-carcinoma, ize
ngequbuliso bavele babe neetumour ezintsha ezivela

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kuyo yonke imizimba yabo. Ewe, yinto ephambeneyo.

17:10.419 --> 17:16.172
Ngoko ke, umhlaza we-turbo uthetha ukuba uqhubela
phambili ngokukhawuleza kakhulu kunomhlaza oqhelekileyo.

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Kanye.

17:16.865 --> 17:22.052
Oogqirha abathile kunye nabanye abaphilisi balumkise
ngale nto, okanye mandithi baqikelela ukuba iza

17:22.052 --> 17:25.856
kwenzeka, kwaye kubonakala ngathi yile nto kanye eyenzekileyo.

17:25.856 --> 17:33.830
Ewe, ngokuqinisekileyo. Singakuqinisekisa oko,
kwaye ayipheleli kubudala nako. Ayikhathali ngobudala.

17:33.830 --> 17:39.393
Ewe. Ngoku ke, zininzi iimeko zezinto ezifana nomhlaza
weetestikhali nomhlaza weprostate. Ewe, yaye kubafazi,

17:39.393 --> 17:45.860
njengoko benditshilo, umhlaza wamabele omninzi okanye
umhlaza wamathumbu. Sinomhlaza wamathumbu omninzi kakhulu.

17:45.860 --> 17:47.300
Ewe.

17:47.300 --> 17:57.500
Yinto yobuyatha leyo. Kanye. Kwaye ke maxa wambi
siba nomntu osweleka apha kanye ngoku, kwangoko.

17:57.500 --> 17:59.424
Ngoko uthetha ukufa okuqhelekileyo?

17:59.424 --> 18:09.520
Ewe, bayawa nje. Bayafa ke. Akukhathaliseki nokuba bahleli
kwindlu yangasese okanye balele ebhedini okanye, kaloku, andazi.

18:09.520 --> 18:15.350
Kuyamangalisa kakhulu. Kwaye kuya kusiba yinto eqhelekileyo. Ewe,
anditsho ukuba ayizange yenzeke kwixesha

18:15.350 --> 18:21.080
elidlulileyo, ukuba umntu uye wahlaselwa yintliziyo
ngelixa ebaleka okanye eqhuba okanye into enjalo.

18:21.080 --> 18:27.940
Kodwa hayi rhoqo njengoku. Ewe, loo nto
ayinakwenzeka. Abantu abasafafi ngendlela eqhelekileyo ngoku.

18:27.940 --> 18:37.135
Enyanisweni, ziintsapho ezingakhange zifumane "unyango lwemfuza"
ezikwaziyo ukuhambisana nezihlobo zazo ezikhulileyo, abazali bazo

18:37.135 --> 18:41.620
okanye nabani na omnye ngendlela eqhelekileyo ngokupheleleyo.

18:41.620 --> 18:46.945
Basweleka ekhaya. Akukho nto injengokhathalelo yokuthomalalisa
iintlungu okanye enye into. Ewe, bahlala nabo

18:46.945 --> 18:51.784
nje. Baye baye, ze zonke izinto zibe njengoko
bezisoloko zinjalo, kanye njengangaphambili.

18:51.784 --> 18:57.796
Ungabathatha abantu, ungabakulungisa, ungababeka iintsuku
ezilishumi ezipheleleyo. Akunyanzelekanga ukuba

18:57.796 --> 19:03.203
ukhathazeke ngokuba kuza kubakho naziphi na
iingxaki zokubola, oko kukuthi, inkqubo yokubola.

19:03.203 --> 19:11.136
Ngelishwa, oku kwahlukile kancinci kwabo bafumana unyango.
Sigxininisile ukuba kufuneka siqwalasele izinto ezinje –

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kubizwa ngokuba 'yi-skin slip'. Ulusu luyazikhulula njalo njalo.

19:15.620 --> 19:24.240
Kufuneka uziphathe ngononophelo. Andifuni kungena
kwiinkcukacha ezininzi malunga nenkqubo yokubola.

19:24.240 --> 19:29.433
Kodwa ukutshintsha kombala kukho. Abaswelekileyo
baba mdaka, babe luhlaza, babe mnyama. Loo nto

19:29.433 --> 19:32.980
ayintle. Akufanelanga uvumele izihlobo zibone loo nto.

19:32.980 --> 19:41.900
Yinyani ukuba ukubonwa komzimba kudla ngokubanjwa
ngosuku lomngcwabo kubantu abahamba imigama emide.

19:41.900 --> 19:44.685
Kodwa xa kukho iintsuku
ezisixhenxe phakathi, idlula ngokukhawuleza.

19:44.685 --> 19:50.190
Ukuba umntu usweleka ngoLwesihlanu kwaye andikwazi
ukulungiselela umngcwabo ngoMvulo okanye ngoLwesibini, uya

19:50.190 --> 19:53.975
kuba ngoLwesithathu, ngoLwesine, okanye kwiveki elandelayo.

19:53.975 --> 19:58.028
Kwaye kungekudala akusayi kubakho kwakhona
ukhokholo. Sisoloko sihlangabezana neemeko apho

19:58.028 --> 20:02.568
kufuneka ndixelele abantu, hayi, ndiyaxolisa.

20:02.568 --> 20:10.035
Maxa wambi, ndithatha umntu osapho onokukwazi ukumelana nako –
baze bathi, hayi, kulungile, siza kushiya (isidumbu) sivaliwe.

20:10.035 --> 20:15.399
Bendingayifumani loo nto rhoqo kwixesha elidlulileyo.
Kwakunqabile kakhulu. Kwakufuneka ibe ngabantu ababenamandla

20:15.399 --> 20:17.903
ngokwenene okanye ababeswelekele emva kwe-chemotherapy.

20:17.903 --> 20:26.000
Okanye ukuba babenikwe ikortisone eninzi okanye nantoni na
ebizwa ngayo, ngamanye amaxesha ukubola kuqala ngokukhawuleza.

20:26.000 --> 20:32.992
Kodwa oku kuphambene ngokwenene. Kwaye sinabantu abopha kakhulu.

20:32.992 --> 20:37.160
Nam andazi kakuhle ukuba yintoni na loo
nto. Kwaye sasingenayo nathi ngaphambili.

20:37.160 --> 20:44.128
Besikade sinazo iimeko apho abantu bephuma igazi entanyeni,
umzekelo, ukuba bebebetyiwe umbhobho wokuphefumla ngaphambili.

20:44.128 --> 20:47.864
Kwaza kwabakho ukwenzakala kwindawo yomqala
okubangelwa kukuhamba komoya okanye into efana

20:47.864 --> 20:50.284
naleyo. Loo nto yayisenzeka ngamanye amaxesha.

20:50.284 --> 20:56.526
Kodwa ngale ndlela izinto ezimi ngayo ngoku,
lulwelo oluphanda kuyo yonke indawo, ayinto intle ncam.

20:56.526 --> 21:03.753
Ngoko ke, ngokuqinisekileyo usabona unxulumano
olomeleleyo phakathi 'kwenjechisi yonyango

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lwemfuza' kunye nezi nguqu uzibonayo emsebenzini wakho.

21:08.780 --> 21:14.612
Ewe, ngokupheleleyo. Ndivumelana nawe
ngokupheleleyo. Ndiyaxolisa ngokwenene ngaloo nto, kuba

21:14.612 --> 21:17.835
... ngumsebenzi owahlukileyo nakuthi, ewe kunjalo.

21:17.835 --> 21:24.236
Kufuneka sijamelane neevumba nezinye izinto kananjalo.

21:24.236 --> 21:31.953
Kwaye iimeko... zinjengale: xa uthatha umntu, uqhuba
ngesiqhelo kwaye ukhangeleka ngathi ulele ebhokisini. Kwethu

21:31.953 --> 21:36.212
nayo yahlukile, xa kuziwa ekuyamkeleni emva koko, ndingatsho.

21:36.212 --> 21:45.040
Akunjalo ngathi zonke ezi zifo... Sisengabantu, asizomatshini.
Kwaye akufani nokuqokelela inkunkuma okanye into enjalo.

21:45.040 --> 21:52.449
Yinkqubo eseleyo yemizwa. Kwaye sihlala sinesizathu
esikhulu sokuzingca ngomsebenzi wethu, umzekelo xa silungisile

21:52.449 --> 21:56.509
umntu ongasekhoyo aze alale phantsi kwekofu ngokuzola okukhulu.

21:56.509 --> 22:04.711
Kwaye sihlala sithatha iifoto zosapho ukuba bayafuna. Kwaye
singazinikezela okanye sizibonise ngentliziyo ezimthwalo.

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Sisoloko sizicingela kakhulu xa sigqibile umsebenzi wethu.

22:08.928 --> 22:09.749
Kanye.

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Kwaye oko kunzima kakhulu kule mihla?

22:11.800 --> 22:18.191
Ewe, ngokuqinisekileyo. Ngoko ke kufuneka senze
okuninzi ukuze siqhube ukopha nokunye okunjalo.

22:18.191 --> 22:24.489
Ewe, yinyani lonto... Kwaye ke kukho isantya sokubola,
njengoko benditshilo, abaswelekileyo babola

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ngokukhawuleza kakhulu kunakuqala, ewe. Ayinto imnandi kangako.

22:28.836 --> 22:30.870
Ukuba nifuna ukubuyela njengosapho – bayabona

22:30.870 --> 22:35.744
Neenguqu nazo. Ewe, asibobuphela abazibonayo.

22:35.744 --> 22:42.902
Ewe. Andinazo naziphi na iinkcukacha-manani ngoku malunga nokuba
zaphiwa nini, zaphiwa kangaphi okanye zaphiwa nini ezona jovo

22:42.902 --> 22:47.616
zininzi. Kodwa ndingatsho ukuba u-21, 22
yayiyincopho, akunjalo? Emva koko zazinza.

22:47.616 --> 22:50.480
Kwaye okwangoku zisesezantsi kakhulu, akunjalo?

22:50.480 --> 22:58.112
Ewe, ndingatsho ukuba uninzi lwabantu endidibana
nabo bathi banabo abathathu okanye abane, ndingatsho.

22:58.112 --> 23:05.916
Ewe, baza kuyeka. Kunjalo nje. Andazi bantu
baninzi, okanye bambalwa kakhulu, abathi kum:

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"Andiqapheli nto, andinanto." Bathi bafumene ukusabela
komzimba kwakamsinya emva koko, kodwa yiyo kuphela loo

23:12.207 --> 23:15.840
nto kwaye baziva belungile. Ndonwabe kakhulu ngaloo nto.

23:15.840 --> 23:25.339
Kodwa uninzi lwabantu endithetha nabo abaye ngaphantsi kwonyango
lwemfuza bonke banoluhlobo oluthile lomonakalo. Abasaphilanga.

23:25.339 --> 23:33.082
Nokuba kungenxa yengxaki yezinzwa okanye hayi, abanye abantu
bayarhulula. Eyona nto indimangalisayo yeyokuba abaninzi

23:33.082 --> 23:42.172
baneengxaki zesisu namathumbu. Izinto ezifana ne-gastritis okanye
ukopha kuthumbu, andazi, zizinto ezingaqhelekanga ngokwenene.

23:42.172 --> 23:49.016
Kwaye into endiyibonileyo kukuba kwiimeko ezininzi
apho kunjalo, nezilwanyana zasekhaya ziyayoba nazo.

23:49.016 --> 23:51.632
Kuyachulumancisa. Mhlawumbi kusasazeka ngokuphila?

23:51.632 --> 23:55.124
Mhlawumbi. Yiyo kuphela indlela endinokuyicacisa ngayo.

23:55.124 --> 24:03.845
Ndivile intetho enomdla kaGqr. Sabine Stebel, kwaye
uthethe ngokulahla. Abantu abaliqela sele bekungqinisile oku.

24:03.845 --> 24:07.740
Kwaye kutheni izilwanyana zingayifumani nayo loo nto?

24:07.740 --> 24:08.775
Ewe.

24:08.775 --> 24:14.845
Kwaye kubi kakhulu, kuba ngamanye amaxesha nkqu
ne-homeopathy okanye amayeza esintu akasancedi.

24:14.845 --> 24:21.720
Yinyani, abantu bayasokola, bayalwa nezinto, bahlala
besesibhedlele ngenxa yokuphelelwa ngamanzi emzimbeni.

24:21.720 --> 24:30.500
Ukuba umntu unentlitho yonke imihla kwaye abjulula ukutya kwakhe
– ndithetha ukuthi, kufuneka uyazi – akamfumiwo nalinye izondlo.

24:30.500 --> 24:40.288
Zizo ezo ezibaleka-baleka apha, zimhlophe okwelifu,
okanye umbala ongwevu-mhlophe. Kunzima kakhulu ukuyichaza.

24:40.288 --> 24:41.935
Kanye.

24:41.935 --> 24:53.237
Kodwa uthe, kwasekuqaleni, waqaphela ukuba bafa msinya emva koko,
ingakumbi abantu abadala ababegonywe izitofu

24:53.237 --> 25:05.042
ezininzi, kwaye ngoku kusenokwenzeka ukuba isitofu
sokugqibela sasele kudala, kodwa abaninzi basafa ngenxa yaso.

25:05.042 --> 25:05.471
Ewe.

25:05.471 --> 25:10.804
Ngokulibaziseka kweenyanga ezimbalwa okanye
mhlawumbi neenminyaka ezimbalwa, ukuthetha ngathi.

25:10.804 --> 25:21.327
: Ukuba uthatha nje i-"Destatis" – ngoJuni walo nyaka,
andiqinisekanga kakuhle, kwiveki yama-25 – kufuneka ujonge,

25:21.327 --> 25:30.189
basayivulile – ungajonga ingxelo yenyanga: kukho
ukunyuka kokusweleka nge-14 okanye i-16 pesenti

25:30.189 --> 25:34.848
xa kuthelekiswa neminyaka emithathu edlulileyo.

25:34.848 --> 25:39.229
Kulungile ukuba bayayenza loo nto okwangoku, kuba
kunyaka ophelileyo, nonyaka ongaphambi kwalowo...

25:39.229 --> 25:41.022
kwaye unyaka ongaphambili koko, okubalulekileyo

25:41.022 --> 25:45.040
Babenokufa okugqithisileyo. Kwaye ngoku phezu koko!

25:47.560 --> 25:51.645
Ewe, uJuni ubunzima kakhulu nakuthi,
ndingakuxelela oko, kwaye bekunjalo nakubo bonke

25:51.645 --> 25:54.478
abaqhubi beenqwelo ekufunyaneni endathetha nabo.

25:54.478 --> 26:03.443
Ngoku ngoJulayi, yehle kancinci kwakhona. Ndicinga ukuba xa
imozulu itshintsha kwakhona, xa kuba kubanda, izakuphinda inyuke.

26:03.443 --> 26:06.897
Ngoko ke besiya kubuyela kumjikelo wentwasahlobo nowasekwindla.

26:06.897 --> 26:07.514
Ewe.

26:07.514 --> 26:14.519
Oko kulungelelene kwakhona, ngoko sele kulapho. Kodwa,
njengoko benditshilo, eyona nzulu yokufa kwikhaya

26:14.519 --> 26:19.040
lethu lokugcinela izidumbu isesesona sifo somhlaza siqatha.

26:19.040 --> 26:20.704
Emva kokugonywa.

26:20.704 --> 26:22.420
Ewe.

26:22.420 --> 26:26.304
Ngoko ke mhlawumbi ubona iimeko ezimbalwa
kakhulu zomhlaza weturbo ngaphandle kweentsontelo.

26:26.304 --> 26:30.021
Kanye, abanakho ngokwenene.

26:30.021 --> 26:32.345
Kwaye usandokukhankanya uJuni.

26:32.345 --> 26:39.061
Kufuneka ndithethe nje into ngaloo nto. Sisandul'
ukuva ngeemeko ezimbalwa zabantu ababengafumani nyango.

26:39.061 --> 26:45.433
Nabo babenomhlaza kwaye, ndingatsho, baye
koogqirha okanye kubaphilisi abachanekileyo.

26:45.433 --> 26:49.940
Kwaye kwisithuba seeveki ezisibhozo baphila.

26:49.940 --> 26:52.023
Ewe, kubonakala kunokwenzeka.

26:52.023 --> 26:53.280
Ewe, iyasebenza.

26:53.280 --> 26:54.728
Nokuba kungekho chemotherapy.

26:54.728 --> 27:00.254
Awunakusebenzisa nje ezo zinto zemveli... Andifuni
kuyihlasela, kodwa inyani yeyokuba ukuba ufuna

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ukuphila, kufuneka ngenene usebenzise amayeza endalo.

27:05.559 --> 27:12.755
Kubonakala kunjalo, ewe. Ukhankanye uJuni, kwaye ndicinga ukuba
yayikunyaka ophelileyo xa uMphathiswa wethu wezeMpilo

27:12.755 --> 27:19.120
uKarl Lauterbach wayesoloko elumkisa ngogqatso lobushushu
obukhulu kunye nokufa okunxulumene nobushushu njalo njalo.

27:19.120 --> 27:25.792
Kodwa ndicinga ukuba ubone iimeko
ezimbalwa apho bafela ngenxa yobushushu kuphela.

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Hayi, andazi, akukho mntu wakha wandixelela
lonto. Akukho mntu wakha wandixelela lonto.

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Akukho mntu wakha wandixelela ukuba kukho umntu ofe ngenxa
yomkhenkce. Ngoko ke, ezo zezona zinto... nangona ndicinga ukuba

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oko kunokwenzeka ngakumbi kunokufa okunxulumene nobushushu.

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Sendikhe ndatshiswa yilanga ngaphambili. Akumnandi,
kuba intloko ibuhlungu, kube nokugabha, nako konke

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okunxulumene nako. Loo mkhuhlane owuzivayo, awumnandi.

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Ngokuqinisekileyo inokukubulala. Ngoko ke ukuba
umntu akomelelanga emzimbeni, kodwa andikayifumani

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iminyaka elishumi elinesixhenxe. Ngesqiniseko hayi.

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Ngoku ke umbuzo omkhulu ngulo, sikwimaphakathi ehlotyeni okanye
ekupheleni kwayo, kwaye imeko ibonakala

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ikhululekile okwangoku. Ubuncinci, yindlela
endiyibona ngayo ngokuphathelele kwalo mcimbi wezempilo.

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Kodwa ndingakucinga, okanye mandithi, sele
kubhengezwe, ukuba into ingaphinda yenzeke.

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Ngoko ke, mhlawumbi kukho abantu abathile abaziqondayo kakhulu le
miba kwaye benze uphando olunzulu, njengoHeiko Schöning,

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othe, ngandlel' ithile, waluqikelela ukuba izinto ziza kuphuma
njani kwiinyanga ezimbalwa ngaphambili ngencoko yohlobo C.

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Kwaye ngoku uphinde walumkisa ukuba
kulungiselelwa uhlaselo kwi-microbiome.

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Abanye bathetha ngomkhuhlane weentaka, endakha ndeva ngawo kanye,
kwaye ke kukho i-monkeypox, ndicinga,

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okanye andiqinisekanga kakuhle, kodwa kunjalo,
i-WHO ngoku ide yabhengeza imeko kaxakeka.

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Oko kuthetha ukuba kusenokubakho okunye okusazayo. Ndicinga ukuba
xa kufika ubusika kwaye abantu bephazamiseka lula kuba

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basenokungaziva kamnandi, mhlawumbi ngenxa yokuhla kwamanqanaba
e-vitamin D kwakhona, isiganeko esilandelayo sinokuba sisondele.

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Ucinga ntoni, okanye ngawaphi amacebiso
onokuwapha abantu malunga nendlela yokujongana

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nale meko, kwaye uyayivavanya njani le meko?

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Ngoko ke ukuba ujonga nje kwidathabheyisi ye-EMA, ngomhla wama-27
ku-Agasti 2022, kanye kwiminyaka emibini

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eyadlulayo, kwakusele kunikwe ingxelo
yokusweleka kwabantu abangama-26,218 ngenxa 'yonyango'.

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Ukuba uyithelekisa nomkhuhlane weehagu owawukho ngelo xesha,
yonke loo nto yamiswa emva kokusweleka kwabantu abangama-35!

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Ewe, ndiyathemba ngenene ukuba abantu bafumene
ukuqonda okwahlukileyo ngayo yonke le nto,

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ukuba ngoku balumkile kwaye bayacokisa ngakumbi.

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Andikwazi ncam ukucinga ukuba abo ngoku babandezeleka
ngenxa yomonakalo bangaphinda benze olunye unyango olufana nolu.

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Ucebisa isiqubulo, cinga ukuba
yiPlandemic, kodwa akukho mntu uya.

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Ndithetha ukuthi, ndiyenza imali yam ngayo.
Njengoko benditshilo, ndibe nothengiso

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oluhle kakhulu ukusukela ngoko, kufuneka nditsho.

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Ukufa kwam kuphindaphindeke kabini, nangona
kukho abacinga ngokwahlukileyo. Ndingumthwali

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wamangcwaba ocinga ngokwahlukileyo apha edolophini.

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Zazimalunga nantoni uphicotho lwezindlu?

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Ukuphanda okokuqala endlwini kwakungenxa yale phetshana yokuhamba
ngoMvulo, kuba ibingenayo nayiphi na inkcazelo yompapashi

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kuyo. Ndiyifumana yonke le nto ingaqhelekanga kwaye iyahlekisa.

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Igqwetha lethu likwathe ukuba xa ungayithathi nzulu le
nto, yonke into ilungile, kuba bazakubuya baphinde baphinde.

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Uthi kwakhona kukugrogrisa nje. Andisabhabhi ngoku ukuze
inqwelo-moya yam ingawi. Ngoko ke ndenza izinto zam ndiqonda.

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Umyeni wam, umzekelo, naye ukhetha ukuba ndihlale
ndinomntu xa ndiphume. Ewe, zinjalo nje izinto ngoku.

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Ndiye ndaqaphela ukuba kwakufuneka silumke
kakhulu kwindlela esibonisa ngayo iingcinga zethu.

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Ngenxa yomxholo, okanye mandithi
amagama afunekayo ukuchaza lo mxholo.

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Yiyo loo nto ndigqibe kwelokuba ndenze le
vidiyo iphelele ifumaneke kwenye indawo, kwaye

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ke, ingacenzurwanga kwaphela kwaye isimahla.

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Kwaye ukuba ufuna ukubona ividiyo epheleleyo, cofa nje
kwikhonkco lokuqala kwinkcazelo yevidiyo engezantsi.

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Kusele ngaphantsi kwemizuzu elishumi elinesihlanu, into ongafanele
uyiphoswe. Ewe, ndingatsho ukuba siya kubonana kwakhona

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kwividiyo epheleleyo. Okwangoku, ndim, uSören. Sala kakuhle.