WEBVTT 00:00.406 --> 00:05.882 Matsayin kafofin watsa labarai na Yamma a rikicin tsakanin Ukraine da Rasha ba shi da ruɗani. 00:05.882 --> 00:09.947 Gwamnatin Rasha – karkashin jagorancin Shugaba Putin – ita ce mai kai hari. 00:09.947 --> 00:13.541 Gwamnatin Ukraine ita ce wanda abin ya shafa wadda dole ta kare kanta. 00:13.541 --> 00:19.791 Rahotanni game da Rasha kusan gaba ɗaya marasa kyau ne, suna cewa "ba a samun 'yancin 'yan jarida, da sauransu." 00:19.791 --> 00:23.033 Ba ka taɓa jin wani abu mara kyau game da Ukraine ba. 00:23.033 --> 00:29.058 Jarumar jarida kuma mai gabatar da shirye-shirye a talabijin ta Ukraine, Diana Panchenko, tana ba da hoto mai bambanci sosai. 00:29.058 --> 00:36.275 Ta kai ga masu sauraro miliyoyi a YouTube kuma tana da mabiya 300,000 a tashar Telegram. 00:36.275 --> 00:43.319 Sascha A. Roßmüller, editan mujallar Jamus da shafin yanar gizo DEUTSCHE STIMME, ya yi hira da 00:43.319 --> 00:47.945 Panchenko wadda aka buga a ranar 11 ga Oktoba, 2024. 00:47.945 --> 00:54.557 An kafa DEUTSCHE STIMME a shekarar 1976, tana sanya "muradin ƙasa a gaba" kuma tana ba da 00:54.557 --> 00:58.715 gudummawa wajen samar da ra'ayoyi masu daidaito. 00:58.715 --> 01:02.563 Yanzu saurari wani ɓangare na hirar. 01:02.563 --> 01:07.651 Yana wakiltar muhimmin bangare na adawa ga rahotannin kafofin watsa labarai na Yamma masu son kai. 01:07.651 --> 01:14.760 Kuma hakan yana nuna wata hanya ta fita daga rikicin da ke ƙara tsananta tsakanin Rasha da Ukraine tare da Turai. 01:14.760 --> 01:21.831 Panchenko game da wariya da cin zarafi da ta fuskanta a matsayin 'yar jarida 'yar Ukraine 01:21.831 --> 01:25.300 Zama ɗan jarida a Ukraine aiki ne marar godiya. 01:25.300 --> 01:29.096 A cikin shekaru 15 na wannan sana'a, an kai min hari sau uku. 01:29.096 --> 01:31.360 Ina samun barazanar kowace rana. 01:31.360 --> 01:36.596 (Shugaban Ukraine) Zelensky ya kakabawa ni takunkumin kashin kansa. 01:36.596 --> 01:45.206 An shigar da kara a kaina, kuma ina fuskantar zaman gidan yari har abada – duk saboda wani sako a Telegram da ya 01:45.206 --> 01:50.180 ce muna buƙatar tattaunawar zaman lafiya don ceto Ukraine. 01:50.180 --> 01:53.784 Wannan ba wasa ba ne, duk yana cikin fayilolina. 01:53.784 --> 01:59.314 Idan na ji cewa Ukraine na yaƙi don 'yancinta a wannan yaƙi, hakan yana sa ni jin 01:59.314 --> 02:03.754 rashin jin daɗi, domin na san babu 'yanci a can. 02:03.754 --> 02:09.086 Shirye-shirye na sun kasance suna da mafi girman ƙima fiye da kowanne kafar labarai ta Ukraine. 02:09.086 --> 02:12.748 Na lashe kyautar Mawallafin Shekara. 02:12.748 --> 02:17.620 Kuma lokacin da yaƙin ya fara, ina Kiev. (...) Na san abin da nake magana a kai. (...) 02:17.620 --> 02:23.090 Amma gwamnati tana yin duk abin da take iya yi don hana ni magana. 02:23.090 --> 02:28.500 Panchenko ya ba da rahoto kan ci gaban da aka samu a Ukraine tun bayan Maidan na 2014. 02:28.500 --> 02:30.854 Amma mu fara tun daga farko: 02:30.854 --> 02:34.331 Na kasance ɗan jarida a lokacin abubuwan da suka faru a Maidan. 02:34.331 --> 02:39.770 Na kasance a wurin kowace rana kuma na ga yadda taron mutane suka jefa duwatsu da kwalaben Molotov a kan 'yan sanda. 02:39.770 --> 02:44.145 Na ga ana biya mutane su tayar da hankalin wasu. 02:44.145 --> 02:48.041 Amma ba za ku ji labarin wannan a kafofin watsa labarai na Yamma ba. 02:48.041 --> 02:52.465 Bayan nasarar Maidan, gwamnati ta kaddamar da tsauraran matakan tantancewa. 02:52.465 --> 02:55.854 Ƙananan sun karɓi iko daga yawancin. 02:55.854 --> 03:01.977 Fadin cewa ba ka goyi bayan Maidan kuma ba ka goyi bayan juyin mulki ba, hukuncin kisa ne. 03:01.977 --> 03:06.640 A wancan lokacin, an kashe wasu 'yan jarida da aka fi sani da su a Ukraine. 03:06.640 --> 03:09.038 Kamar kisan Oles Buzina. 03:09.038 --> 03:15.024 Binciken har yanzu yana ci gaba, duk da cewa kowa ya san wanda ya aikata shi. 03:15.024 --> 03:18.940 Bayan Maidan, na yi aiki a tashar talabijin ta NewsOne. 03:18.940 --> 03:21.850 Halayenmu sun kasance na gaskiya kuma ba tare da nuna son rai ba. 03:21.850 --> 03:25.981 Mun ruwaito labarin cin hanci na Zelensky da tawagarsa. 03:25.981 --> 03:32.250 Mun samar da dandamali ga masu goyon bayan Yarjejeniyar Minsk da matsayin rashin bangare na Ukraine. 03:32.250 --> 03:34.926 Mun yi aiki don zaman lafiya. 03:34.926 --> 03:41.469 Don haka, Zelensky ya rufe tasharmu – da kuma wasu biyu – a watan Fabrairu 2021. 03:41.469 --> 03:48.998 Wannan ya faru shekara guda kafin yaƙin – ƙarin shaida ce cewa tun a wancan lokacin ya riga ya san abin da zai faru. 03:48.998 --> 03:53.959 Ya yi ƙoƙarin goge duk sauran tushen bayanai. 03:53.959 --> 04:01.772 Panchenko ya ba da rahoto kan ci gaban da ake samu a Ukraine bayan barkewar yaƙi a ranar 24 ga Fabrairu, 2022. 04:01.772 --> 04:04.516 Lokacin da yaƙin ya fara, ina Kiev. 04:04.516 --> 04:11.200 Nan da nan aka ayyana ni a matsayin makiyi na ƙasa: farautar ta fara. An yi min hare-hare da dama. 04:11.200 --> 04:17.758 Tun farkon yakin, mulkin kama-karya a Ukraine ya ƙara tsananta. An rufe dukkan tashoshin talabijin. 04:17.758 --> 04:21.772 Sai ɗaya kawai ya rage wanda ke ƙarƙashin ikon Zelensky. 04:21.772 --> 04:27.846 Dukkan sanannun 'yan jarida sun samu ziyara daga SBU (Hukumar leƙen asirin cikin gida ta Ukraine). 04:27.846 --> 04:31.420 Ya ma yi barazanar tsaron 'yan uwana. 04:31.420 --> 04:35.512 Kowace suka ga hukumomi ana ɗauka a matsayin cin amanar ƙasa. 04:35.512 --> 04:43.354 Tun farkon yakin, SBU ta kaddamar da shari'o'in laifi sama da 2,500 kan tuhumar siyasa. 04:43.354 --> 04:51.596 Wasu daga cikin abokan aikina sun ɓace. Wasu kuma an azabtar da su. Da yawa daga cikinsu suna cikin kurkuku. 04:51.596 --> 04:57.459 Saboda shaharata kawai ne na tsira kuma na sami damar barin ƙasar – don yin aiki a matsayin ɗan 04:57.459 --> 05:01.440 jarida da kuma kiyaye mutuncina na ɗabi'a. (...) 05:01.440 --> 05:06.196 Panchenko kan dalilan yakin Rasha da Ukraine 05:06.196 --> 05:09.477 Yaƙin Rasha da Ukraine ba haɗari ba ne. 05:09.477 --> 05:14.682 Shirye-shiryen sadaukar da Ukraine ba kawai sun kasance ana yin su cikin shekaru 30 da suka gabata ba. 05:14.682 --> 05:18.440 Suna gudana tun bayan ƙarshen Yaƙin Duniya na Biyu. 05:18.440 --> 05:24.721 Don fahimtar inda hanyar Ukraine za ta iya kaiwa, mutum kawai ya duba taswira. 05:24.721 --> 05:32.709 Mun dai kawai mu kasance tsaka-tsaki – ba mu goyi bayan Rasha ba, mu kasance tsaka-tsaki kawai, wato: "Ku kauce wa matsala." 05:32.709 --> 05:42.440 Maimakon haka, an ba NATO izinin gina ababen more rayuwarta a Ukraine. Duk wannan ya fara ne kafin shekarar 1991. 05:42.440 --> 05:49.273 Ko kafin ƙarshen Yaƙin Duniya na Biyu, hukumomin leƙen asiri na Birtaniya da Amurka sun riga sun fara aiki tare da 05:49.273 --> 05:53.764 'yan kishin ƙasa na Ukraine don yaƙi da Tarayyar Soviet. 05:53.764 --> 05:55.854 Ukraine ta yi zaɓuɓɓuka biyu. 05:55.854 --> 06:00.444 Zaɓi na ɗaya: rashin son gefe da kyakkyawar dangantaka da Rasha. 06:00.444 --> 06:05.629 Zaɓi na biyu: yankin kariya da yaƙi – har zuwa mutumin ƙarshe. 06:05.629 --> 06:12.329 Ukraine ta zaɓi zaɓi na biyu – ko mafi daidai – an zaɓi wannan zaɓi ne a madadin Ukraine. 06:12.329 --> 06:17.621 Ba zan lissafa albarkatun da kasashen Yamma suka kashe don juya 'yan Ukraine su yi adawa da Rasha 06:17.621 --> 06:20.981 ba. An riga an san isasshen abu game da wannan. 06:20.981 --> 06:28.237 A matsayina na mutum mai shekaru kamar Ukraine ta zamani, dole ne in ce cewa mu ɓangare ne na wani babban gwaji. 06:28.237 --> 06:32.220 Yaɗa ƙarya ya mayar da 'yan uwa abokan gaba. 06:32.220 --> 06:38.178 Wannan yana farawa a makaranta, inda ake nuna Rasha a matsayin sanadin duk matsalolinmu. 06:38.178 --> 06:42.437 Duk waɗanda suka yi kira ga zaman lafiya kuma suka yi gargaɗi a gare mu an kifar da su, an 06:42.437 --> 06:45.893 kashe su ko kuma an jefa su cikin gidan yari. (...) 06:45.893 --> 06:48.700 Panchenko ya ba da rahoto kan rawar Zelensky 06:48.700 --> 06:52.641 Na san Zelensky kaɗan. Na san tawagarsa. 06:52.641 --> 06:56.740 Ya kamu da sha'awar shahara kuma yana ƙin duk wata suka. 06:56.740 --> 07:02.305 Wannan ba lallai ba ne abu mai muni ga ɗan wasan kwaikwayo, amma ga ɗan siyasa gaba ɗaya ba 07:02.305 --> 07:05.873 za a iya yarda da shi ba – balle shugaban ƙasa. 07:05.873 --> 07:09.741 A halin yanzu, duk da haka, Zelenskyy kusan baya yanke shawara kwata-kwata. 07:09.741 --> 07:15.756 Ma'aikatar Harkokin Wajen Amurka ce ke yanke waɗannan shawarwari a madadinsa, kuma Jake Sullivan (Mai Ba da Shawarwari 07:15.756 --> 07:19.653 kan Tsaron Kasa na Biden) shi ne babban aikinsa. (...) 07:19.653 --> 07:26.420 Panchenko kan tambayar wanene ke cikin Fadar White House – Donald Trump ko Kamala Harris? 07:26.420 --> 07:31.889 Ina ganin yin sauƙaƙe lamarin sosai ne in ce Mista Trump zai kawo ƙarshen yaƙin. 07:31.889 --> 07:34.057 Amma zan yi farin ciki in na yi kuskure. 07:34.057 --> 07:40.297 Ukraine tabbas tana goyon bayan gwamnatin Biden a wannan yakin neman zabe. (...) 07:40.297 --> 07:47.800 Panchenko kan ci gaban tashin hankali da ko zai iya ƙara tsananta har ya zama babbar masifa mai yaduwa 07:47.800 --> 07:51.274 Ba ni da sha'awar zama mai kawo muku mummunan labari. 07:51.274 --> 07:54.877 Amma ban ga wata damar rage tashin hankali ba. 07:54.877 --> 07:58.920 Muna rayuwa a duniya inda ba za ka iya kiran abubuwa da sunayensu na gaskiya ba. 07:58.920 --> 08:03.657 A taƙaice: masu son yaƙi ba za su yarda da hakan ba. 08:03.657 --> 08:07.114 Duniya tana ƙarƙashin mulkin ƙananan masu tashin hankali. 08:07.114 --> 08:12.289 Suna murƙushe, hallaka ko kashe duk wanda bai yarda da ra'ayinsu ba. 08:12.289 --> 08:19.028 Suna kuma ɓoye laifukansu da ra'ayoyi da ake ganin suna ci gaba da lakabi na dimokuraɗiyya. 08:19.028 --> 08:24.223 Abubuwan da suka faru a Maidan sun bazu a duk faɗin duniya (...). 08:24.223 --> 08:31.481 Shekaru dari uku da suka wuce, Immanuel Kant ya bayyana a cikin rubutun falsafarsa mai taken "Towards Perpetual Peace" cewa ɗan 08:31.481 --> 08:37.139 adam zai iya cimma zaman lafiya na duniya baki ɗaya ko dai ta hanyar wayewar hankali ta duniya baki 08:37.139 --> 08:41.152 ɗaya ko kuma ta hanyar wata babbar rikici mai halaka. 08:41.152 --> 08:46.337 Abin baƙin ciki, alama ne cewa sai wani abu mai muni kawai zai sa mutane su yi tunani. 08:46.337 --> 08:49.823 Kuma hakan yana nufin mutane da yawa za su mutu. 08:49.823 --> 08:57.833 Zan so in yi kuskure, amma alama tana nuna cewa mataki na gaba na ƙaruwa zai kasance cikakken yaki 08:57.833 --> 09:02.010 tsakanin Rasha da NATO. A Ukraine da Turai. (...) 09:02.010 --> 09:12.220 Yana ba ni raɗaɗi in faɗi wannan, amma a yau Turai na bin sahun Ukraine ta hanyar yanke shawarar da ke cutar da mutanenta. 09:12.220 --> 09:15.100 Ina son Jamus kuma na taɓa zuwa can. 09:15.100 --> 09:21.164 Ina girmama al'adunsu masu kayatarwa kuma ina yaba ƙwazon mutanensu, kuma abin da kawai 09:21.164 --> 09:25.311 nake fata shi ne Jamus ta sake samun ikon kanta. 09:25.311 --> 09:29.149 Ba za a samu Turai ba ba tare da Jamus mai ƙarfi ba. 09:29.149 --> 09:34.510 Kuma don kasancewa mai ƙarfi, dole ne ta bi muradun ƙasarta. 09:34.510 --> 09:38.544 Panchenko game da makomarta ta sirri 09:38.544 --> 09:42.919 Babban burina shi ne taimaka wa mutane su fahimci juna. 09:42.919 --> 09:45.956 Asalin dukkan sharri jahilci ne. 09:45.956 --> 09:50.497 Tsawon shekaru, an gina bango tsakanin 'yan Rasha da 'yan Ukraine da nufin tabbatar da 09:50.497 --> 09:53.436 cewa kusan ba su san komai game da juna ba. 09:53.436 --> 09:58.592 Kuma yanzu suna gina irin wannan bango tsakanin Rasha da Turai. 09:58.592 --> 10:07.620 A yau, ina mai da hankali wajen gaya wa mutane gaskiya game da yakin Ukraine domin hana wani rikici mafi girma. 10:07.620 --> 10:10.800 Ina wallafa bidiyo a asusun X dina. 10:10.800 --> 10:19.608 Littafina (mai taken "The Inevitable") za a wallafa shi nan ba da jimawa ba a Turai da Amurka, kuma ina shirin yin fim ɗinsa. 10:19.608 --> 10:24.242 – Ina addu'a zaman lafiya ga mu duka kuma ina fatan hankali zai rinjaye.