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Boemo ba mecha ea phatlalatso ea Bophirimela
ntweng e pakeng tsa Ukraine le Russia bo hlakile.

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Mmuso wa Russia – o etelletsweng pele ke
Mopresidente Putin – ke ona o hlaselang.

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Mmuso wa Ukraine ke lehlatsipa le tlamehang ho itshireletsa.

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Litlaleho ka Russia li batla li le mpe feela,
li re "ha ho na tokoloho ea boralitaba, jj.".

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Ha o utlwe hangata letho le lebe ka Ukraine.

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Moqolotsi oa litaba oa Ukraine le moqolotsi oa thelevishene
Diana Panchenko o fana ka setšoantšo se fapaneng haholo.

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O fihlella bamameli ba limilione ho YouTube mme o
na le balatedi ba 300,000 kaneleng ya Telegram.

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Sascha A. Roßmüller, mohlophisi oa makasine le portal
ea Jeremane DEUTSCHE STIMME, o ile a etsa puisano le

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Panchenko e ileng ea phatlalatsoa ka la 11 Mphalane 2024.

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E thehiloe ka 1976, DEUTSCHE STIMME e beha "thahasello ea sechaba
pele" 'me e kenya letsoho ho theheng maikutlo a leka-lekaneng.

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Joale mamela karoloana ea puisano.

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E fana ka pono e fapaneng ya bohlokwa kgahlanong le
tlaleho e sekameng ya mecha ya phatlalatso ya Bophirimela.

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Hape e bontša tsela ea ho tsoa qabang e ntseng e
hola lipakeng tsa Russia le Ukraine le Europe.

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Panchenko o bua ka kgethollo le tlhekefetso eo a
bileng le tsona e le moqolotsi wa ditaba wa Ukraine.

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Ho ba moqolotsi oa litaba naheng ea
Ukraine ke mosebetsi o se nang teboho.

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Lilemong tsa ka tse 15 mosebetsing ona, ke hlasetsoe hararo.

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Ke fumana litšoso letsatsi le leng le le leng.

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(Mopresidente wa Ukraine) Zelensky o ntshwere dikotlo tsa botho.

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Ho qositsoe nyeoe ea botlokotsebe khahlanong le 'na, 'me ke
tobane le kahlolo ea bophelo bohle chankaneng – tsohle

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ka lebaka la poso e le 'ngoe ho Telegram e neng e bolela
hore re hloka lipuisano tsa khotso ho pholosa Ukraine.

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Hase motlae ona, tsohle di ka hara difaele tsa ka.

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Ha ke utlwa hore Ukraine e lwanela tokoloho ya yona ntweng ena,
ho ntlhobaetsa, hobane ke a tseba hore ha ho na tokoloho moo.

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Mananeo a ka a ne a tloaetse ho ba le
litekanyetso tse phahameng ka ho fetisisa ho feta

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tsa mecha efe kapa efe ea litaba ea Ukraine.

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Ke hapile kgau ya Moqolotsi wa Ditaba wa Selemo.

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Mme ha ntwa e qala, ke ne ke le Kyiv.
(...) Ke a tseba seo ke buang ka sona. (...)

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Empa mmuso o etsa sohle se matleng a ona ho nkhutsisa.

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Panchenko o tlaleha ka ntshetsopele e
etsahetseng Ukraine ho tloha ka Maidan 2014.

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Empa ha re qaleng qalong:

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Ke ne ke le moqolotsi oa litaba nakong ea liketsahalo tsa Maidan.

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Ke ne ke le teng letsatsi le leng le le
leng mme ka bona kamoo letshwele le neng le

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akhela mapolisa majwe le di-Molotov cocktail.

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Ke bone batho ba lefuoa ho qholotsa ba bang.

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Empa ha o ka ke wa utlwa ka sena
mecheng ya phatlalatso ya Bophirimela.

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Kamora katleho ya Maidan, mmuso o ile wa
kenya tshebetsong thibelo e matla ya ditaba.

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Ba fokolang ba ile ba laola ba bangata.

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Ho ne ho tshwana le kahlolo ya lefu ho bolela hore o ne o le
kgahlanong le Maidan mme o sa tshehetse phetohelo ya mmuso.

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Ka nako eo, baqolotsi ba bangata ba ditaba
ba tsebahalang ba ile ba bolawa Ukraine.

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Joaloka polao ea Oles Buzina.

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Phuputso e ntse e tsoela pele, leha
bohle ba tseba hore na ke mang ea e entseng.

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Kamora Maidan, ke ile ka sebeletsa
seteishene sa thelevishene sa NewsOne.

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Maikutlo a rona e ne e le a botšepehi le a ho se nke lehlakore.

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Re tlalehile ka bobodu ba Zelensky le sehlopha sa hae.

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Re fane ka sethala bakeng sa batšehetsi ba Tumellano
ea Minsk le boemo ba Ukraine ba ho se nke lehlakore.

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Re sebelitse bakeng sa khotso.

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Ka lebaka lena, Zelensky o koetse kanale ea rona
– hammoho le tse ling tse peli – ka Hlakola 2021.

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Sena se etsahetse selemo pele ho ntoa –
bopaki bo eketsehileng ba hore o ne a se a ntse

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a tseba se neng se tla etsahala ka nako eo.

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O lekile ho hlakola mehlodi yohle e meng ya tlhahisoleseding.

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Panchenko o tlaleha ka tsoelopele e Ukraine
kamorao ho ho qhoma ha ntoa ka la 24 Hlakola 2022.

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Ha ntoa e qala, ke ne ke le Kiev.

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Ka potlako ke ile ka phatlalatsoa e le sera sa naha: tsomo e ne
e qalile. Ho bile le litlhaselo tse 'maloa khahlanong le 'na.

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Ho tloha qalong ea ntoa, puso ea bohatelli naheng ea Ukraine e
matlafalitsoe. Liteishene tsohle tsa thelevishene li koetsoe.

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Ho setse a le mong feela eo a leng tlas'a taolo ea Zelensky.

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Baqolotsi bohle ba litaba ba tsebahalang ba ile ba
eteloa ke SBU (tšebeletsi ea bohlale ea lehae ea Ukraine).

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O bile a tšosa polokeho ea litho tsa lelapa la ka.

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Nyatso efe kapa efe ea ba boholong e nkoa e le boepoli.

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Ho tloha qalong ea ntoa, SBU e qalile linyeoe tsa
botlokotsebe tse fetang 2,500 ka liqoso tsa lipolotiki.

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Ba bang ba basebetsi-'moho le 'na ba nyametse. Ba
bang ba hlokofalitsoe. Ba bangata ba bona ba teronkong.

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Ke ka lebaka la botumo ba ka feela ke ileng ka pholoha
mme ka khona ho tloha naheng – ho sebetsa ke le

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moqolotsi oa litaba hape le ho boloka botšepehi ba ka. (...)

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Panchenko mabapi le mabaka a ntoa ea Russia le Ukraine

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Ntoa ea Russia le Ukraine e ne e se kotsi.

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Litokisetso tsa ho tela Ukraine ha se feela tse
ntseng li etsoa lilemong tse 30 tse fetileng.

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Ba ntse ba matha ho tloha qetellong ea Ntoa ea Bobeli ea Lefatše.

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Ho utlwisisa hore na tsela ya Ukraine e ka
isa kae, motho o hloka feela ho habanya mmapa.

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Re ne re tlameha feela ho dula re sa nke lehlakore –
e seng ba tshehetsang Russia, empa re sa nke

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lehlakore feela, ka mantswe a mang: "Dula hole le mathata".

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Ho e-na le hoo, NATO e ile ea lumelloa ho haha meaho ea eona
ea motheo naheng ea Ukraine. Sena sohle se qalile pele ho 1991.

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Le pele Ntoa ea Bobeli ea Lefatše e fela,
litšebeletso tsa bohlale tsa Borithane le Amerika li ne li

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sebetsa le bo-ramatšoenatše ba Ukraine khahlanong le USSR.

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Ukraine e ne e na le dikgetho tse pedi.

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Kgetho ya pele: ho se nke
lehlakore le dikamano tse ntle le Russia.

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Kgetho ya bobedi: sebaka sa tshireletso
le ntwa – ho fihlela motho wa ho qetela.

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Ukraine e kgethile kgetho ya bobedi – kapa ho
bua ka nepo – kgetho ena e kgethetswe Ukraine.

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Nke ke ka thathamisa mehlodi eo Bophirimela bo e
sebedisitseng ho etsa hore Maukraine a hloile

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Marussia. Ho se ho tsejwa ho lekaneng ka taba ena.

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Joaloka motho ea lilemo li lekanang le
tsa Ukraine ea sejoale-joale, ke tlameha

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ho bolela hore re karolo ea teko e kholo.

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Propaganda e fetotse litho tsa lelapa lira.

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Sena se qala sekolong, moo Russia e
bontšuoang e le sesosa sa mathata a rona kaofela.

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Bohle ba neng ba ipiletsa ka kgotso mme ba re lemosa ba ile
ba ntshwa maemong, ba bolawa kapa ba akgelwa tjhankaneng.

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Panchenko o tlaleha ka karolo ya Zelensky

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Ke tseba Zelensky hanyane. Ke tseba sehlopha sa hae.

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O lemetse botumo mme o hloile nyatso efe kapa efe.

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Seo e kanna ya se be ntho e mpe ho
motshameki, empa ho se amohelehe ho hang ho

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ralipolotiki – re se re sa bue ka mopresidente.

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Hajoale, leha ho le jwalo, Zelenskyy ha a nke diqeto ho hang.

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Lefapha la Naha la US le mo etsetsa liqeto
tsena, mme Jake Sullivan (Moeletsi oa Tšireletso

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ea Naha oa Biden) ke mookameli oa hae. (...)

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Panchenko mabapi le potso ea hore na ke mang ea ka
Ntlong e Tšoeu – Donald Trump kapa Kamala Harris?

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Ke nahana hore ke ho nolofatsa taba
haholo ho re Mong. Trump o tla felisa ntoa.

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Empa nka thabela ho fosa.

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Ka sebele Ukraine e tšehetsa puso ea
Biden letšolong lena la likhetho. (...)

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Panchenko ka nts'etsopele ea likhohlano tse ntseng
li eketseha le hore na li ka fetoha koluoa e atileng.

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Ke maswabi ho ba mo tlisa ditaba tse mpe.

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Empa ha ke bone tšepo ea hore maemo a tla kokobela.

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Re phela lefatšeng leo ho lona o sa khoneng ho
bitsa lintho ka mabitso a tsona a nepahetseng.

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Ka bokgutshwane: batlodi ba ntwa ba ke ke ba dumella.

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Lefatshe le buswa ke sehlotshwana se mabifi.

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Ba hatella, ba senya kapa ba bolaea mang
kapa mang ea sa lumellaneng le maikutlo a bona.

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Ba boetse ba pata litlolo tsa bona tsa molao ka mehopolo eo
ho thoeng e tsoetse pele le ka ho li reha mabitso a demokrasi.

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Liketsahalo tsa Maidan li batlile
li hasana lefatšeng lohle (...).

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Lilemong tse makholo a mararo tse fetileng, Immanuel Kant o ile a
phatlalatsa moqoqong oa hae oa filosofi "Towards Perpetual

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Peace" hore batho ba ka fihlela khotso ea lefats'e ka bophara
ebang ke ka khantšo e akaretsang kapa ka ntoa e timetsang.

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Ka bomalimabe, ho bonahala eka ke feela
ntho e mpe e ka etsang hore batho ba nahane.

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Mme seo se bolela hore batho ba bangata ba tla shwa.

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Nka thabela ho fosa, empa ho bonahala eka mohato o
latelang oa ho mpefatsa lintho e tla ba ntoa e

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feletseng lipakeng tsa Russia le NATO. Ukraine le Europe.

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Ho ntlhaba pelo ho bua sena, empa kajeno Europe e ntse e latela
mehlala ea Ukraine ka ho etsa liqeto tse kotsi ho batho ba eona.

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Ke rata Jeremane mme ke se ke kile ka ya teng.

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Ke hlompha setso sa yona se babatsehang mme ke
babatsa kgothalo ya batho ba yona, mme ke lakatsa

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feela hore Jeremane e boele e fumane boipuso ba yona.

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Ho ke ke ha e-ba le Yuropa ntle le Jeremane e matla.

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Mme hore e be matla, e tlameha ho
phehella lithahasello tsa naha ea eona.

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Panchenko ka bokamoso ba hae

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Sepheo sa ka se seholo ke ho thusa batho hore ba utlwane.

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Motheo oa bobe bohle ke ho hloka tsebo.

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Ka lilemo tse ngata, ho ile ha hahuoa lerako lipakeng
tsa Marussia le Maukraine ka sepheo sa ho etsa bonnete ba

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hore ha ba tsebe hoo e ka bang letho ka e mong ho e mong.

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Mme jwale ba haha lebota le
tshwanang pakeng tsa Russia le Europe.

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Kajeno, ke tsepamisitse maikutlo ho bolelleng batho nnete ka
ntoa ea Ukraine e le ho thibela khohlano e kholo le ho feta.

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Ke phatlalatsa livideo akhaontong ea ka ea X.

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Buka ea ka (e bitsoang "The Inevitable") e
tla hatisoa haufinyane Europe le United

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States, 'me ke boetse ke rera ho e fetola filimi.

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– Ke rapella rona bohle kgotso mme
ke tshepa hore kelello e tla hlola.

