1 00:00:00,007 --> 00:00:00,406 2 00:00:00,406 --> 00:00:05,882 Isimo samajelo eendaba aseNtshona kungxwabangxwaba phakathi kwe-Ukraine neRashiya sikucacile. 3 00:00:05,882 --> 00:00:09,947 Urhulumente waseRashiya – okhokelwa nguMongameli uPutin – nguye oqalisa umlo. 4 00:00:09,947 --> 00:00:13,541 Urhulumente wase-Ukraine ngumxhasi ekufuneka azikhusele. 5 00:00:13,541 --> 00:00:19,791 Iingxelo ezingoRashiya phantse zonke zimbi, zisithi "akukho nkululeko yeendaba, njl.". 6 00:00:19,791 --> 00:00:23,033 Akufane uve nto imbi nge-Ukraine. 7 00:00:23,033 --> 00:00:29,058 Intatheli yase-Ukraine nomncedisi kamabonakude uDiana Panchenko uchaza umfanekiso owahluke kakhulu. 8 00:00:29,058 --> 00:00:36,275 Ufikelela kubaphulaphuli abazizigidi kuYouTube kwaye unabalandeli abangama-300,000 kwitshaneli yeTelegram. 9 00:00:36,275 --> 00:00:43,597 USascha A. Roßmüller, umhleli wephephancwadi lwaseJamani kunye ne-portal i-DEUTSCHE STIMME, wenze udliwano-ndlebe 10 00:00:43,597 --> 00:00:47,945 noPanchenko olwapapashwa ngomhla we-11 ku-Okthobha 2024. 11 00:00:47,945 --> 00:00:58,715 Yasekwa ngo-1976, i-DEUTSCHE STIMME ibeka "umdla wesizwe kuqala" kwaye inegalelo ekubunjweni kwezimvo ezilungeleleneyo. 12 00:00:58,715 --> 00:01:02,563 Ngoku mamela isicatshulwa esisuka kudliwanondlebe. 13 00:01:02,563 --> 00:01:07,651 Imele ingqina ebalulekileyo kwingxelo enecala elinye yemidiya yaseNtshona. 14 00:01:07,651 --> 00:01:14,760 Kwaye ikwabonisa indlela yokuphuma kungquzulwano oluqhubeka luyanda phakathi kweRussia ne-Ukraine kunye neYurophu. 15 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:21,831 UPanchenko ngocalucalulo nokuxhatshazwa akhe wafumana njengentatheli yase-Ukraine 16 00:01:21,831 --> 00:01:25,300 Ukuba yintatheli e-Ukraine ngumsebenzi ongenankonzo. 17 00:01:25,300 --> 00:01:29,096 Kwiminyaka yam eli-15 kulo msebenzi, ndihlaselwe kathathu. 18 00:01:29,096 --> 00:01:31,360 Ndifumana izisongelo yonke imihla. 19 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:36,596 (UMongameli wase-Ukraine) uZelensky undibekele izohlwayo zobuqu. 20 00:01:36,596 --> 00:01:45,505 Kuvulwe ityala lam, kwaye ndijongene nesigwebo sokuphila entolongweni – konke oku ngenxa yeposi endiyibhalileyo kuTelegram 21 00:01:45,505 --> 00:01:50,180 ithi kufuneka iintetho zoxolo ukuze kusindiswe i-Ukraine. 22 00:01:50,180 --> 00:01:53,784 Akuyonto yokudlala le, yonke into ikwifayile zam. 23 00:01:53,784 --> 00:02:03,754 Xa ndisiva ukuba i-Ukraine ilwela inkululeko yayo kule mfazwe, andikhululekanga, kuba ndiyazi ukuba akukho nkululeko apho. 24 00:02:03,754 --> 00:02:09,086 Iinkqubo zam zazikade zinamanqaku aphezulu kunawo nawuphi na umthombo weendaba wase-Ukraine. 25 00:02:09,086 --> 00:02:12,748 Ndaphumelela ibhaso njengeNtatheli yoNyaka. 26 00:02:12,748 --> 00:02:17,620 Kwaye xa kwakuqala imfazwe, ndandiseKiev. (...) Ndiyazi into endithetha ngayo. (...) 27 00:02:17,620 --> 00:02:23,090 Kodwa urhulumente wenza konke okusemandleni akhe ukundithulisa. 28 00:02:23,090 --> 00:02:28,500 UPanchenko unika ingxelo ngenkqubela yezinto e-Ukraine ukusukela kwiMaidan ngo-2014. 29 00:02:28,500 --> 00:02:30,854 Kodwa masiqale ekuqaleni: 30 00:02:30,854 --> 00:02:34,331 Ndandiyintatheli ngexesha leziganeko eMaidan. 31 00:02:34,331 --> 00:02:39,770 Ndandilapho yonke imihla ndaza ndabona indlela isihlwele esasiphosa ngayo amatye neeMolotov cocktails emapoliseni. 32 00:02:39,770 --> 00:02:44,145 Ndibone abantu behlawulwa ukuze bakhuthaze abanye. 33 00:02:44,145 --> 00:02:48,041 Kodwa awuzukuyiva le nto kumajelo eendaba aseNtshona. 34 00:02:48,041 --> 00:02:52,465 Emva kwempumelelo yaseMaidan, urhulumente wazisa ulawulo olungqongqo. 35 00:02:52,465 --> 00:02:55,854 Intsalela yalawula isininzi. 36 00:02:55,854 --> 00:03:01,977 Kwakuyisigwebo sentambo ukuthi uchasa iMaidan kwaye awuxhasi umbuso wonyanziso. 37 00:03:01,977 --> 00:03:06,640 Ngelo xesha, iintatheli ezininzi ezaziwayo zabulawa e-Ukraine. 38 00:03:06,640 --> 00:03:09,038 Njengokubulawa kuka-Oles Buzina. 39 00:03:09,038 --> 00:03:15,024 Uphando lusaqhubeka, nangona wonke umntu esazi ukuba ngubani owenzileyo. 40 00:03:15,024 --> 00:03:18,940 Emva kweMaidan, ndasebenzela isikhululo sikamabonakude iNewsOne. 41 00:03:18,940 --> 00:03:21,850 Isimo sethu besinyanisekile kwaye singakhethi cala. 42 00:03:21,850 --> 00:03:25,981 Siye sanika ingxelo ngobuqhophololo bukaZelensky neqela lakhe. 43 00:03:25,981 --> 00:03:32,250 Sinikezele ngenkundla kubaxhasi beSivumelwano saseMinsk kunye nesimo sokungathathi cala sase-Ukraine. 44 00:03:32,250 --> 00:03:34,926 Sisebenzele uxolo. 45 00:03:34,926 --> 00:03:41,469 Ngenxa yale nto, uZelensky wavalela ijelo lethu – kunye namanye amabini – ngoFebruwari 2021. 46 00:03:41,469 --> 00:03:48,998 Oku kwenzeka unyaka phambi kwemfazwe – obunye ubungqina bokuba wayesele esazi oko kwakuzayo ngelo xesha. 47 00:03:48,998 --> 00:03:53,959 Wazama ukucima zonke ezinye iimithombo zolwazi. 48 00:03:53,959 --> 00:04:01,772 UPanchenko unika ingxelo ngenkqubela yezinto e-Ukraine kulandela ukuqhambuka kwemfazwe ngomhla wama-24 kuFebruwari 2022. 49 00:04:01,772 --> 00:04:04,516 Xa kwaqala imfazwe, ndandiseKiev. 50 00:04:04,516 --> 00:04:11,200 Ndakamsinya ndabhengezwa njengentshaba yelizwe: kwaba sekusukelweni. Kwakho iinzame ezininzi zokuzama ukundibulala. 51 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:17,758 Ukusukela ekuqaleni kwemfazwe, ubuzwilakhe e-Ukraine buye bonyuka. Zonke izikhululo zikamabonakude zivaliwe. 52 00:04:17,758 --> 00:04:21,772 Kusele omnye kuphela ongaphantsi kolawulo lukaZelensky. 53 00:04:21,772 --> 00:04:27,846 Onke iintatheli ezaziwayo ziye zatyelelwa yi-SBU (i-arhente yobuntlola basekhaya yase-Ukraine). 54 00:04:27,846 --> 00:04:31,420 Ude wosongela nokhuseleko lwamalungu osapho lwam. 55 00:04:31,420 --> 00:04:35,512 Nayiphi na intshikilelo yeziphathiswa ithathwa njengobungcatshi. 56 00:04:35,512 --> 00:04:43,354 Ukususela ekuqaleni kwemfazwe, i-SBU iqalise amatyala obugebenga angaphezu kwama-2,500 ngamatyala ezopolitiko. 57 00:04:43,354 --> 00:04:51,596 Abanye babo ndisebenza nabo baye banyamalala. Abanye baye bahlukunyezwa. Uninzi lwabo lusentolongweni. 58 00:04:51,596 --> 00:04:57,222 Kungenxa yodumo lwam kuphela endasinda ndaza ndakwazi ukushiya ilizwe – ukuze ndisebenze 59 00:04:57,222 --> 00:05:01,440 njengentatheli kwaye ndigcine nobunyani bam. (...) 60 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:06,196 UPanchenko ngesizathu semfazwe yaseRashiya neyaseUkraine 61 00:05:06,196 --> 00:05:09,477 Imfazwe yaseRashiya neyaseUkraine ibingengoqhushumbisi. 62 00:05:09,477 --> 00:05:14,682 Amalungiselelo okuncama i-Ukraine akayiqalanga nje kwiminyaka engama-30 edlulileyo. 63 00:05:14,682 --> 00:05:18,440 Beqhuba ukusukela ekupheleni kweMfazwe yesibini yeHlabathi. 64 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:24,721 Ukuqonda ukuba i-Ukraine isenokuba isingise phi, umntu kufuneka ajonge nje kwimephu. 65 00:05:24,721 --> 00:05:29,538 Kwakufuneka nje sihlale singathathi cala – asixhasi iRashiya, kodwa singathathi cala nje, 66 00:05:29,538 --> 00:05:32,709 ngamanye amazwi: "Zihlalele kude nengxaki." 67 00:05:32,709 --> 00:05:42,440 Endaweni yoko, i-NATO yavunyelwa ukuba yakhe iziseko zayo e-Ukraine. Konke oku kwaqala phambi konyaka ka-1991. 68 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:49,149 Naphambi kokuphela kweMfazwe yesibini yeHlabathi, iinkonzo zobuntlola zaseBritane naseMelika zazisebenzisana 69 00:05:49,149 --> 00:05:53,764 nabasukeli-zizwe baseUkraine ngokuchasene ne-USSR. (...) 70 00:05:53,764 --> 00:05:55,854 I-Ukraine ibinokhetho olubini. 71 00:05:55,854 --> 00:06:00,444 Inketho yokuqala: ukungathathi cala nobudlelwane obuhle neRashiya. 72 00:06:00,444 --> 00:06:05,629 Inketho yesibini: indawo yokukhusela nemfazwe – kude kube kwayindoda yokugqibela. 73 00:06:05,629 --> 00:06:12,329 I-Ukraine ikhethe inketho yesibini – okanye ukuthetha ngokuchanekileyo – le nketho ikhethwe i-Ukraine. 74 00:06:12,329 --> 00:06:17,529 Andizukudwelisa izixhobo iNtshona ezizichithileyo ukuguqula ama-Ukrainian ukuba athathe inyawo 75 00:06:17,529 --> 00:06:20,981 kumaRashiya. Sele kusaziwa okwaneleyo ngale nto. 76 00:06:20,981 --> 00:06:28,237 Njengomntu okhulileyo njenge-Ukraine yanamhlanje, kufuneka nditsho ukuba siyinxalenye yovavanyo olukhulu. 77 00:06:28,237 --> 00:06:32,220 Ipropaganda ijike amalungu osapho aba ziintshaba. 78 00:06:32,220 --> 00:06:38,178 Oku kuqala esikolweni, apho iRashiya iboniswa njengoyena nobangela wazo zonke iingxaki zethu. 79 00:06:38,178 --> 00:06:45,893 Bonke abo babebizela uxolo besilumkisa bathontswa ezikhundleni, babulawa okanye bavalelwa entolongweni. (...) 80 00:06:45,893 --> 00:06:48,700 UPanchenko unika ingxelo ngendima kaZelensky 81 00:06:48,700 --> 00:06:52,641 Ndiyamazi uZelensky kancinci. Ndiyayazi iqela lakhe. 82 00:06:52,641 --> 00:06:56,740 Ukhoboka dodumo kwaye uyayithiya nayiphi na intshikilelo. 83 00:06:56,740 --> 00:07:05,873 Oko kusenokungabi yinto imbi kumlingisi, kodwa akunamkela kwaphela kwisopolitiki – singasathethi ke ngomongameli. 84 00:07:05,873 --> 00:07:09,741 Okwangoku, nangona kunjalo, uZelenskyy phantse akathathi zigqibo. 85 00:07:09,741 --> 00:07:15,578 I-US State Department yenza ezi zigqibo endaweni yakhe, kwaye uJake Sullivan (uMcebisi kaBiden 86 00:07:15,578 --> 00:07:19,653 wezoKhuseleko lweSizwe) ngumphathi wakhe. (...) 87 00:07:19,653 --> 00:07:26,420 UPanchenko ngombuzo wokuba ngubani osemzini Mhlophe – uDonald Trump okanye uKamala Harris? 88 00:07:26,420 --> 00:07:31,889 Ndicinga ukuba kukwenza lula kakhulu ukutsho ukuba uMnu. Trump uza kuphelisa imfazwe. 89 00:07:31,889 --> 00:07:34,057 Kodwa ndingavuya ukuba ndiphazama. 90 00:07:34,057 --> 00:07:40,297 I-Ukraine ngokuqinisekileyo iyayixhasa ulawulo lukaBiden kweli phulo lonyulo. (...) 91 00:07:40,297 --> 00:07:47,800 UPanchenko malunga nophuhliso loxinzelelo olukhulayo nokuba lunokunyuka lube yintlekele esasazekileyo 92 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:51,274 Ndiyazisola ukuba ngumthwali weendaba ezimbi. 93 00:07:51,274 --> 00:07:54,877 Kodwa andiboni mathuba okuthomalala. 94 00:07:54,877 --> 00:07:58,920 Siphila kwihlabathi apho ungenakubiza izinto ngamagama azo afanelekileyo. 95 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:03,657 Ukuyibeka lula: abaxhokonxi bamfazwe abazukuyivumela. 96 00:08:03,657 --> 00:08:07,114 Ihlabathi lulawulwa yininzi encinci enobundlongondlongo. 97 00:08:07,114 --> 00:08:12,289 Bayacinezela, batshabalalise okanye babulale nabani na ongavumelani noluvo lwabo. 98 00:08:12,289 --> 00:08:19,028 Baphinda bafihle ulwaphulo-mthetho lwabo ngeengcinga ekuthiwa ziyinkqubela phambili kunye nokubizwa ngegama lolawulo-luhlobo. 99 00:08:19,028 --> 00:08:24,223 Iziganeko zaseMaidan ngokwenene sele zisasazeke kwihlabathi lonke (...). 100 00:08:24,223 --> 00:08:31,374 Kwiminyaka engamakhulu amathathu eyadlulayo, u-Immanuel Kant wabhengeza kwisincoko sakhe sezifundiselo esithi "Towards 101 00:08:31,374 --> 00:08:37,191 Perpetual Peace" ukuba uluntu lungafikelela kuxolo lwehlabathi jikelele mhlawumbi ngokuqondisisa 102 00:08:37,191 --> 00:08:41,152 okubanzi okanye ngongquzulwano olutshabalalisayo. 103 00:08:41,152 --> 00:08:46,337 Ngelishwa, kubonakala ngathi kuphela yinto embi enokwenza abantu bacinge. 104 00:08:46,337 --> 00:08:49,823 Kwaye oko kuthetha ukuba abantu abaninzi baya kufa. 105 00:08:49,823 --> 00:08:58,089 Ndingathanda ukuba ndiphazame, kodwa kubonakala ngathi isigaba esilandelayo sokunyuka kobunzima siza kuba ngumlo opheleleyo 106 00:08:58,089 --> 00:09:02,010 phakathi kweRashiya neNATO. E-Ukraine naseYurophu. (...) 107 00:09:02,010 --> 00:09:08,066 Kubuhlungu ukutsho oku, kodwa namhlanje iYurophu ilandela iinyathelo zase-Ukraine 108 00:09:08,066 --> 00:09:12,220 ngokwenza izigqibo ezonakalisa abantu bayo. 109 00:09:12,220 --> 00:09:15,100 Ndiyayithanda iJamani kwaye sendikhe ndaya khona. 110 00:09:15,100 --> 00:09:21,341 Ndiyayihlonipha inkcubeko yayo ebalaseleyo kwaye ndiyancoma ukuzimisela kwabantu bayo, kwaye ndinqwenelela 111 00:09:21,341 --> 00:09:25,311 kuphela iJamani ukuba iphinde ifumane inkululeko yayo. 112 00:09:25,311 --> 00:09:29,149 Akunakubakho iYurophu ngaphandle kweJamani eyomeleleyo. 113 00:09:29,149 --> 00:09:34,510 Kwaye ukuze yomelele, kufuneka ilandele iimfuno zayo zesizwe. 114 00:09:34,510 --> 00:09:38,544 UPanchenko ngekamva lakhe lobuqu 115 00:09:38,544 --> 00:09:42,919 Eyona njongo yam iphambili kukunceda abantu baqondane. 116 00:09:42,919 --> 00:09:45,956 Ingcambu yako konke okubi kukungazi. 117 00:09:45,956 --> 00:09:49,982 Kangangeminyaka, kwakhiwe udonga phakathi kwamaRashiya namaYukreyini ngenjongo 118 00:09:49,982 --> 00:09:53,436 yokuqinisekisa ukuba abazi phantse nto ngomnye nomnye. 119 00:09:53,436 --> 00:09:58,592 Kwaye ngoku bakha udonga olufanayo phakathi kweRashiya neYurophu. 120 00:09:58,592 --> 00:10:07,620 Namhlanje, ndigxile ekuxeleleni abantu inyaniso ngemfazwe yase-Ukraine ukuze kuthintelwe ungquzulwano olukhulu ngakumbi. 121 00:10:07,620 --> 00:10:10,800 Ndishicilela iividiyo kwi-akhawunti yam ye-X. 122 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:15,722 Incwadi yam (enesihloko esithi "The Inevitable") iza kupapashwa kungekudala eYurophu 123 00:10:15,722 --> 00:10:19,608 naseMelika, kwaye ndiceba nokwenza ifilimu ngayo. 124 00:10:19,608 --> 00:10:24,242 – Ndithandazela uxolo kuthi sonke kwaye ndinethemba lokuba ingqiqo iya kuhlala ngaphezulu.