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Sawubona, babukeli abathandekayo.
Siyakwamukela e-Klagemauer-TV kwenye ingxoxo.

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Namuhla sinomuntu okhethekile esimemile,
onguchwepheshe osiletha amaqiniso adubulayo

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aphinde athulwe emithonjeni yezindaba eyinhloko.

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Futhi yingakho sijabule ukuba lapha nawe, Dkt.
Ute Krüger. Sawubona. Ngiyabonga kakhulu ngomemo.

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Akukho nto. Wawusihambisile nathi ngoSepthemba futhi
wasinika ingxoxo enhle kakhulu ngesihloko: ukugoma

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kwe-mRNA ye-coronavirus – imbangela yokugula nokufa?

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Futhi unguchwepheshe wezifo futhi uchithe
iminyaka eminingi ucwaninga umdlavuza wamabele.

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Namuhla sixoxa ngesihloko: imijovo yokugoma ye-coronavirus
ye-mRNA – izivusa umdlavuza kanye nomdlavuza osheshayo?

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Kodwa kuqala, kubabukeli abangakakwazi ngawe okwamanje,
sicela usitshele kancane ukuthi uvela kuphi nokuthi ubekwenzani.

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Ngiphumelele ukuhlolwa kwami kobungcweti kwezokwelapha eBerlin,
ngemuva kwalokho ngathuthela eSweden ngokushesha, lapho

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ngasebenza khona njengodokotela omkhulu wezifo zokuhlolwa
kwezokwelapha emakhlinikhi amabili ahlukene. Ngaleso sikhathi

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ngangiyingcweti yomdlavuza wamabele futhi ngangiphethe isikhundla
somqondisi wezokwelapha ekiliniki iminyaka emine. Ngaphezu

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komsebenzi wami wezokwelapha, ngichithe iminyaka
eyisishiyagalombili yokugcina yomsebenzi wami ngenza

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ucwaningo ngomdlavuza wamabele eNyuvesi yaseLund.

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Futhi kubabukeli abangazi ukuthi umchwepheshe wezifo wenza ini:
i-pathology iyisifundo sezifo, kanti namuhla

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umchwepheshe wezifo usebenza kakhulu ekuxilongeni izifo, kanti
ukuhlolwa kwangemva kokufa sekuyinto yesibili ngokuphelele.

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Lokhu kusho ukuthi umchwepheshe wezifo uhlala emayikroskopu noma,
muva nje, esikrinini, ngoba izithombe sezidijithali, futhi wenza

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ukuxilongwa okusebenza njengesisekelo sokwelashwa okulandelayo.

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Yebo, kulungile. Kuhle. Manje, Dokotela Krüger, cishe
sesishiye ngemuva ubhubhane we-coronavirus. Kwakuyileso

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sikhathi lapho kwavela khona lobu buchwepheshe obusha be-mRNA.

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Kwafakwa kubantu abaningi ngobuningi, futhi sasihlala sitshelwa
yabezindaba, abezepolitiki kanye nomkhakha

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wezokwelapha ukuthi bekuphephile,
bekusebenza kahle futhi bekungekho nemiphumela emibi.

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Yiziphi izinto ozitholile phakathi
nomsebenzi wakho njengomhloli wezifo?

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Ngingaphinda ngithi ngisebenze njengochwepheshe womdlavuza
wamabele iminyaka engu-18, kokubili ocwaningweni iminyaka

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eyisishiyagalombili nasekusebenzeni kwezokwelapha, ngakho-ke
nganginombono ojulile wokwabiwa kwalo phakathi kweziguli zami.

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Ngakho-ke iminyaka yobudala yeziguli, izinto engazithola
zokuhlolwa, ubukhulu bamathumba, ukuthi

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bakhule ngokushesha kangakanani, ngamanye
amazwi ukuthi bakhule ngobudlova obungakanani.

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Futhi ekwindla ka-2021, ngangizwa sengathi ngithola izibalo
eziningi ezivela ezigulini ezisencane,

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okungukuthi labo abaneminyaka engu-30 kuya
kwengu-50, nokuthi amathumba ayebekhulu kakhulu.

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Esikhathini esedlule, amathumba anobukhulu obuyizintsentimitha
ezine ayengavamile kakhulu. Manje amathumba anobukhulu

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obuphakathi kwezintsentimitha ezine neziyishumi nesithupha.

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Ithumba elikhulu kunazo zonke engake ngalibona
lalilingana namasentimitha ayi-16. Kufanele ulibheke

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ku-rula ukuze uqaphele ukuthi likhulu kangakanani.

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Futhi amathumba akhule ngokushesha nangokuzumayo, futhi
kwavela ukuphindeka kaningi, okungukuthi ukubuya kabusha.

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Abaguli bangase babe sebengenasitho somdlavuza iminyaka engu-20,
kodwa izinyanga ezimbalwa nje emva kokuthola lezi zifutho

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zokulwa ne-coronavirus, isitho somdlavuza sabuyela ngokuzumayo.

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Futhi ngenxa yokuhlasela okunjalo,
kwakuvamile ukuthi iziguli zife ngenxa yalokho.

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Kwathi-ke ngabona ukuthi kunezitho ezivame kakhulu, izitho
eziningi esifubeni esisodwa, okungukuthi izitho

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ezigxile ezindaweni eziningi, futhi ukuthi izitho
zenzeka kuzo zombili izifuba ngasikhathi sinye.

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Leli gama langaphandle lisho ukuthi
kunezitho eziningi zomdlavuza endaweni eyodwa.

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Kunjalo, le multifokality, okusho ukuthi kunezitho
eziningana zomdlavuza ebeleni elilodwa. Futhi ngiphinde

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ngilethe nezithombe ezimbalwa ukuze ngichaze le multifokality.

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Lesi isiguli esineminyaka engu-55 ubudala esine-ductal
carcinoma in situ engu-130 millimetha. Lokhu kusho ukuthi

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kukhona ithumba ebusweni lobele elikhula emizileni yobisi.

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Ngakho-ke, izintsentimitha eziyi-13 kuphela sezinkulu kakhulu.
Futhi kule ndawo, wayenamaphuzu okungena okungenela ngaphakathi

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angu-20 ahlukene, okungenani angu-20. Lokho kusho ukuthi
ithumba selikhule ngaphandle kwemigudu lwangenela ezicubeni.

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Futhi lapha esithombeni ungabona indawo eluhlaza
okwesibhakabhaka, okuyiyo enethumba emizileni.

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Futhi lezi zindawo ezibomvu zikhombisa izindawo
zokungena, lapho isivele ikhula khona ezicubeni.

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Ngakho-ke lapha kulesi sigaba
kunezindawo eziyisikhombisa zokutheleleka kuphela.

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Ingabe isithombe manje siyisiqephu esisikiwe?

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Kunjalo, ngale ndlela umchwepheshe wezifo ebona ngayo
izinto ngaphansi kwemayikroskopu. Lesi yingxenye yesifuba.

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Ngakho-ke, ekugcineni, ukuxilongwa kwenziwa
e-pathology. Ngaphezu kwalokho, kwaphinde kwabonakala ukukhula

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okukhulu kwemithambo ye-lymph kude kakhulu nethumba.

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Futhi wayesevele enama-metastases amane
emathunjini e-lymph. Ngakho-ke amathunzi e-lymph

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ayesevele athintekile, okuyinto engavamile kakhulu.

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Kodwa umdlavuza wakhula ngokushesha
okukhulu. Ngiphinde ngilethe isithombe

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esiphathelene nokuphindeka, okungukuthi ukubuya kabusha.

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Lo ngumguli wesifazane oneminyaka engu-80 ubudala owahlinzwa
ngendlela yokugcina isifuba eminyakeni eyisikhombisa edlule.

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Lokho kusho ukuthi basuse ingxenye yomdlavuza
esifubeni, kwathi ingxenye esele yesifuba yayisekhona.

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Futhi ezinyangeni ezintathu ngemva kokuthola lokhu
okubizwa ngokuthi umjovo wokugoma i-COVID-19, wathola

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ithumba esifubeni ayehlangabezwane nokuhlinzwa kuso.

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Futhi yakhula ngokushesha kakhulu. Esampuleni
yokuhlinzwa, yayivele inobukhulu obungu-55 millimetha.

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Futhi unazo nezinye izindawo zokutheleleka kwesikhumba esibeleni
sakhe ngasikhathi sinye. Lokhu nakho kuyinto engavamile kakhulu,

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ukuthi isiguli sifike nokuphindeka kwesifo futhi
sesivele sinezinye izindawo zokutheleleka kwesikhumba

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ngasikhathi sinye. Lokho kuvame ukwenzeka kamuva kakhulu.

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Futhi lapha ungabona isampula yokuhlinzwa yamanje. Indawo
eluhlaza iyisibazi sokuhlinzwa kweminyaka eyisikhombisa edlule.

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Futhi le ndawo ebomvu eseduze kwayo iyithumba elikhula khona.

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Lapha incane kakhulu, kodwa ungabona uxhumano
oluqondile nesibazi. Yingakho ngakhetha lesi sigaba.

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Ngemva kwalokho ngilethe enye ingxenye ngesihloko
sokwehlukahluka kwe-tumour. Lokhu kusho ukuthi

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i-tumour ingatholakala ngamaphethini okukhula ahlukene.

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Lo wesifazane oneminyaka engu-70 ubudala
owayenomdlavuza wamabele we-lobular iminyaka

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eminingi, uhlobo lomdlavuza wamabele olukhula kancane.

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Ngakho-ke wayenokutheleleka okuningi emsipheni wakhe wokuchama,
kumembránu yangaphakathi yamathumbu, emathanjeni nasebhubheni.

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Futhi useziphila nalezi metastases iminyaka emithathu. Lokho
kusho ukuthi umzimba wakhe wawusesimweni sokulingana okuthile.

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Maduzane ngemva kwalokhu okubizwa ngokuthi
ukugoma, ukukhula kwe-tumour esiswini

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kuyagcoba futhi isiguli sifa kungakapheli inyanga.

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Futhi udokotela onguchwepheshe owangithumelela lesi silinda
sesibindi, okuyisilinda esiphunywe esibindini, wabhala efomini

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lokufaka ukuthi wayeqaphele ukuthi ukukhula
kwethumba kwakugqabhuke esibindini, kodwa

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kwakungabonakali lutho kwezinye izindawo zokutheleleka.

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Yebo. Futhi lapha ungabona izicubu zesibindi ezijwayelekile
ohlangothini lwesokudla, kune-tumor ye-lobular

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phakathi. Ngakho awuboni ngempela okuningi
kwalomdlavuza. Ungabona amabala amnyama amancane.

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Futhi kwelinye icele elisodlangalaleni, le
ndawo emnyama kakhulu yithumba elisanda kufakwa,

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elinokhono okumnyama futhi likhula ngokushesha.

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Yebo. Ekugcineni, ngabona uxhumano lokuthi,
ngokwesilinganiso, amathumba avela ezinyangeni ezintathu

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emva kwalokhu okubizwa ngokuthi izitofu zokugoma.

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Kulungile, yebo. Ngakho yilokho okubonile
eminyakeni edlule. Uyingcweti kulo mkhakha.

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Igama elivame ukuvela manje lithi 'umdlavuza
we-turbo'. Ingabe kuyiqiniso ukuthi leli gama lakhiwa ngenxa

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yokutholakala kwalokhu? Futhi singakubona kanjani lokhu?

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Ngakho-ke, leli gama lisho ukuthini? Futhi
lingahlukaniswa kanjani nomdlavuza ojwayelekile?

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Njengoba ngishilo, ngabona ekwindla ka-2021 ukuthi
kukhona okuthile okwashintsha lapha. Futhi-ke

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ngasungula leli gama ngoba ngangicabanga ukuthi lilingana.

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Akusiyo igama lesayensi. Kuyabhekisela nje ekukhuleni komdlavuza
ngokushesha kakhulu. Futhi lokhu kungenzeka

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kunoma yiliphi ilungu lomzimba. Ngakho-ke
akukhulunywa nje ngamabele, kodwa kungenzeka noma kuphi.

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Futhi ongayibona ngaphansi kwemayikroskophu ukuthi
amaseli omdlavuza makhulu. Ngingakubonisa omunye umfanekiso

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lapha. Lapha, isibonelo, nginethumba elihlukaniswe kahle.

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Ngakho-ke leli thumba likhula
kancane, ukuze ukwazi ukulilinganisa.

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Lapha ungabona lezi ziglandu ezincane, ezimnyama ngombala. Futhi
kunenani elikhulu kakhulu le-stroma

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yomdlavuza , eliphinki ngemuva. Lena indlela
umdlavuza weziziba ohlukaniswe kahle obukeka ngayo.

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Futhi-ke sinethumba lapha, lapho ungabona khona
amaseli ethumba ahlelwe eduze kakhulu futhi amakhulu

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kancane. Futhi empeleni ungabona i-stroma encane kakhulu.

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Futhi uma ubheka ukufakwa kombala okukhethekile
kwe-Ki67, okuyimbala ye-immunohistochemistry engasetshenziswa

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ukukhombisa ukuthi zingaki amaseli omdlavuza ahlukanayo.

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Futhi lapha ungabona lo mdlavuza ohlukaniswe kahle,
ngakho cishe amaphesenti ayi-10 wamaseli omdlavuza ayahlukana.

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Lokho ukukhula okuvamile, kusho yena. Impela, ukuthi
umdlavuza ukhula ngokushesha kangakanani. Futhi uma kuphela

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u-10% wamaseli omdlavuza ehlukana, khona-ke ukhula kancane.

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Kwabe kunjalo ngaphambi kobhubhane lwe-coronavirus. Yebo,
kwakukhona izinhlobo ezahlukene, futhi kwakukhona namathumba

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angahlukaniswanga kahle. Kodwa ngifuna nje
ukukubonisa umehluko phakathi kethumba

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elihlukaniswe kahle naleli ebizwa ngokuthi i-turbo cancer.

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Futhi lapha ungabona ukuthi izingxenye ezintathu
kwezine zamangqamuzana omdlavuza ziyahlukana.

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Yilokho engangikubona ngaphansi kwemayikroskophu.

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Kwakukhona nezinye izimila ezineeseli zomdlavuza ezinkulu
kakhulu. Lapha, amaseli zomdlavuza asazincane uma

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eqhathaniswa. Kwakukhona amaseli zomdlavuza amakhulu
ngokweqile. Lokho nakho kuhambisana nalomdlavuza we-turbo.

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Yebo, yizindaba ezidabukisayo, futhi
izithombe ziyamangaza, ukuthi konke kuphuma kanje.

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Ngiphinde ngifunde muva nje ukuthi ngo-Agasti walonyaka,
umuthi wokuqala we-mRNA wokulwa nomdlavuza wemiphunga wawufakwa

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emzimbeni wabantu, okungukuthi lo muthi okuthiwa uyivakisini.

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Futhi umuntu angacabanga ukuthi kudingeka kulethwe emakethe
okunye okwengeziwe, ngisho nemijovo ebizwa

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nge-mRNA eminingi kakhulu yokulwa ne-HIV, ne-herpes,
ne-flu, nomdlavuza, zonke izinhlobo zomdlavuza.

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Futhi lobu buchwepheshe obusha buyakhuthazwa
kakhulu. Abantu bathi kuyinto enhle kakhulu.

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Futhi idunyiswa emkhakheni
ojwayelekile, imali eningi kakhulu iyangena kuyo.

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Futhi empeleni, kumele kushiwo – uma ubona lokhu
manje, kanye nalokho okushilo nokubonile

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njengochwepheshe – ukuthi imithi yenza abantu bagula kakhulu.

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Bese ngithi ngokuyisisekelo kukhona
okungalungile ngaleli muthi kanye nemboni yezemithi.

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Futhi uma kuba neminye imijovo ye-mRNA efika emakethe, ucabanga
ukuthi kuzokwenzekani ngaleso sikhathi? Ingabe nawe ulindele

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ukuthi kuzoba nezimo eziningi kakhulu zomdlavuza we-turbo?

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Kufanele kushiwo ukuthi lobu
buchwepheshe be-mRNA abukahlolwa ngokwanele.

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Ngokuvamile, imijovo yokugoma ithatha
iminyaka eyisikhombisa kuya kweyisishiyagalombili

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ukuze ifinyelele emakethe ngemva kokuhlolwa.

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Futhi lobu buchwepheshe be-mRNA busemakethe isikhathi
esingaphansi konyaka. Ngakho-ke abakahlolwa ngokwanele.

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Futhi akunakwenqatshwa ukuthi umdlavuza we-turbo nawo
ungavela ngemuva kwalokhu okubizwa ngokuthi izitozo.

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Yebo. Kulungile. Futhi kwenzekani
ngempela lapho? Ungasho? Noma uyazi?

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Kungani le khensa ye-turbo ikhona? Kwenzekani ngempela emzimbeni?

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Kunezimbangela eziningi zomdlavuza.

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Angiyena uchwepheshe. Angiyena isazi sezokuvikela komzimba. Kodwa
ngiyamazi umlingani waseCanada, uDkt William Makis. Ungusazi

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wezokuvikela komzimba, usazi womdlavuza kanye nosazi wezithombe.

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Futhi wachaza kahle kakhulu. Kodwa zonke lezi ziyizimfundiso.
Asazi ngempela ngokuphelele ukuthi isebenza kanjani.

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Kodwa okwamanje okuthethwayo yimiphumela
elandela lezi zokugoma ezibizwa kanjalo.

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Futhi ngo-Okthoba 2023 kwavezwa ucwaningo oluvela e-United
Kingdom lapho abantu abaneminyaka engu-15 kuya

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kwengu-44, okungukuthi iziguli ezisencane
kakhulu, bahlolwa ngokufa. Bashona ngenxa yomdlavuza.

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Futhi lapha sibona ukuthi sekube nokwanda kokufa okungamaphesenti
angu-12 kuya kwangu-120. Lezi zinombolo ziyamangalisa.

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Futhi uma ngingakunika izinombolo ezimbalwa: ngomdlavuza
wamabele, ukunyuka kwaba ngu-28%. Lokho kwakungonyaka ka-2022.

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Futhi kumdlavuza we-colon, lesi
sibalo besiphakeme ngo-55% kwabesilisa.

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Ngakho bakhuphuka kangako phakathi nonyaka ka-2022?

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Ngempela, yilapho lezi zinombolo
ezivela khona. Ngakho-ke zatholakala.

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Futhi kumdlavuza wepancreas, ukunyuka kwabesifazane
kungu-80%. Futhi sikhuluma ngabantu abaneminyaka engu-15 kuya

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kwengu-44. Ngakho-ke ngempela abantu abasebasha kakhulu.

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Enye intuthuko ekhathazayo yi-melanoma embi,
noma umdlavuza wesikhumba omnyama. Ukunyuka

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kwabesilisa kwaba ngu-120%. Hhayi bo, yebo.

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Futhi-ke sine-tumour zobuchopho, ezivame – ama-tumour
zobuchopho abi avame ukuthinta abantu asebekhulile.

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Futhi lapha sibona ukwanda okufika ku-35%
phakathi kwamadoda. Hawu. Izibalo ezingakholakali. Yebo.

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Futhi lapha kufanele kuqashelwe ukuthi umjovo wokugoma,
owaziwa ngokuthi umjovo wokugoma, wethulwa ngo-2021.

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Wethulwa, yebo. Yebo. Futhi-ke lowo kwakuyonyaka olandelayo.

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Futhi asikakayazi ukuthi isimo sizoba kanjani
ngo-2023 nango-2024. Asikakayazi okwamanje, yebo. Cha.

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Ngakho-ke sidinga ngempela ukuphinda lokhu futhi.

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Ngakho-ke u-2021 empeleni kwaba yilapho isikhathi esikhulu
sokugoma saqala khona. Yilapho abantu bagonywa ngalobu

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buchwepheshe obusha. Futhi ngo-2022, ngokushesha
ngemuva kwalokho, kwaba nokunyuka okukhulu kakhulu. Yebo.

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Manje sesiyazi – sesivele senze izinhlelo ngalokhu
ku-Kla.TV – ukuthi le mjeko ye-coronavirus, leyo

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okuthiwa iyimjeko, iphinde ibangele nezinye izifo.

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Futhi nawe ubhale incwadi ngakho.
Ngizoyibamba phambi kwekhamera. Ibizwa ngokuthi:

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Vaccinated and Dead. Yini enye ongatshela ngayo?

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Encwadini, ngihlanganise imiphumela kaProfesa
Arne Burkhardt ayithole esikhungweni sakhe.

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Wenze ukuhlolwa kwesibili kwabantu abashonile
abazalwane babo abakholelwa ukuthi ukufa kwabo

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kungase kube nokuhlotshaniswa nalezi zitofu. Yebo.

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Futhi le ncwadi ikhombisa ukuhlupheka okubhekiswe
kubantu. Yebo. Futhi akugcini nje ngokuthi abantu bagula,

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kodwa abantu empeleni bashona ngemva kokuthola lezi zitozo.

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Futhi esikutholile kwakuwukuthi lapho izijovo zingaphezulu
zingena emzimbeni, umonakalo emzimbeni wawukhula kakhulu.

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Futhi ungabona okwengeziwe ngalesi
sihloko engxoxweni. Kuhle, yebo.

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Ngakho-ke, ngiyazibuza manje ukuthi bakwenzele ini.
Wawukhona kulo mkhakha wezokwelapha ojwayelekile.

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Kwathi-ke wenza lesi sitholokazi. Awuzange
ubone lezi zenzakalo ezimangazayo zenzeka.

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Lokho kukuthinte kanjani futhi kwenzekani ngokulandelayo?

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Hhayi-ke, okungimangaze ngokuphelele kwakuwukuthi
ezombusazwe zaba sezingeni eliphezulu kunesayensi.

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Ngamanye amazwi, ezombusazwe zalawula uhlelo lwezempilo.

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Futhi manje ungakwazi ukufunda
ngokusobala ngalokhu emaphepheni e-RKI ashicilelwe.

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Futhi lokho akwamukeleki kimi. Angisakwazi ukusebenza
kulesi simiso futhi angikwazi ukuhlala ngibuka nje

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ngibukele kwenzeka. Ngathi, "Angisafuni lutho ngalokhu."

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Futhi kimi, kwakungenangqondo ngokuphelele
ukuxilonga noma yiziphi izibungu zamabele ezingase zibe

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zibangelwe omunye osebenza naye ukusebenzisa isirinji.

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Futhi yingakho ngaziyekela umsebenzi
ngonyaka odlule. Bengivele ngabona ukuthi ngeke

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ngisakwazi ukusebenza kulo mkhakha wezokwelapha.

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Ngakho-ke ngenze ukuqeqeshwa
okwengeziwe okuningi eminyakeni yamuva nje.

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Futhi ekuqaleni kwalo nyaka ngavula umsebenzi
wami wokwelapha okuphelele futhi ngagxila

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ekuvimbeleni izifo, okusho ukuvimbela ukugula.

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Yebo, lokho kunengqondo kakhulu kunokufaka abantu
umjovo nokunye, akunjalo? Yebo. Kuhle, ake sibuyekeze:

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Akunjalo, njengoba abezepolitiki, abezindaba nomkhakha
wezokwelapha bethi lezi zokugoma ze-mRNA

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ziphephile, zisebenza kahle futhi cishe azinazo
iziphumo ezingezinhle – yilokho esihlale sitjwa.

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Cha, kodwa singabona ukuthi izinga lomdlavuza
liyakhuphuka kakhulu, nezinye izifo nazo ziyakhuphuka kakhulu.

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Futhi lokhu kwenzeka ngokushesha ngemva
kokunikezwa kwalezi zitofu emhlabeni wonke.

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Kodwa-ke, iqiniso lisekhona lokuthi
siyaqhubeka ngesivinini esiphelele ngalolu hlelo.

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Sizwe ukuthi imijovo emisha izokwethulwa emakethe,
yonke isebenzisa lobu buchwepheshe be-mRNA. Bathi

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yilona elingcono kunazo zonke – yilokho okwakuzwakala.

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Ngakho-ke kumele ngempela sicele abantu, kuhlanganise nawe,
babukeli abathandekayo, ukuthi bayeke ukubamba iqhaza kulokhu.

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Lokho empeleni yilokho engingakweluleka abantu ukuba
bakwenze lapho bezwa lokhu. Ngiyabonga, Dokotela

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Krüger, ngengxoxo nangokuletha lesi sihloko etafuleni futhi.

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Ngiyabonga futhi ngesibindi sakho sokuzinikela kulesi
sizathu, ngokuba nesibindi sokushiya lolu hlelo nokwakha

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okwakho. Sidinga abantu abafana nawe. Ngiyabonga kakhulu.

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Unamazwi wokugcina kubabukeli?

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Yebo, impela. Ungesabi, zazi, futhi okubaluleke kakhulu,
thembela ohlelweni lwakho lokuzivikela komzimba. Kuyamangalisa.

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Kuhle kakhulu. Ngakho-ke, babukeli abathandekayo, sicela
nisize ukusabalalisa le mininingwane. Ngoba, njengoba sesizwile,

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imithombo yezindaba eyinhloko ibika ngokuphambene ngokuphelele.

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Futhi le nhlekelele, evela embonini yezemithi, emithini,
kwezombusazwe nasemithonjeni yezindaba, kumele imiswe.

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Futhi ningasisiza thina, abantu,
ukwenza kanjalo. Ngiyabonga kakhulu.