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Ukusukela malunga nonyaka ka-2019, i-WHO ibisoloko ilumkisa
ngokwanda kwezifo okubangelwa kukutyholwa kokumelana

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kweentsholongwane namachiza, njengoko la machiza
engasebenzi kangako ekulweni iintsholongwane ezibangela izifo.

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Isivumelwano sobhubhane se-WHO sikwabonelela
ngezinto ekuthiwa "zii-antimicrobial agents" kunye

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"ne-antimicrobial resistance" kwiidrafti zaso.

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Ngo-2022, i-WHO yabhengeza ukuxhathisa kwamagciwane
njengenye yeengozi ezintathu ezinkulu kakhulu kwimpilo.

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Kodwa ziziphi iinjongo zokwenene apha?

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Ngaba kufanele kubekho ukothuka ngeentsholongwane?

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Kwaye kuthekani ngezi antibiotics zintsha,
ezingaqhelekanga, ezizeyinyango lwemfuza ze-mRNA ngokwenene?

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Jonga olu dliwano-ndlebe lulandelayo noGqr
Heiko Schöning kunye nommeli uBeate Bahner.

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Ewe, ndiyanibulela ngokuba nibe nathi kule vidiyo
okokuqala kunye noGqr. Heiko Schöning, ingcaphephe yezifo

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ezosulelayo, uhlaselo kunye nokuhlaselwa ngobugebenga.

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Kwiinyanga ezininzi ezidlulileyo, ndatsalela uHeiko umnxeba,
ndichulumancile kancinci, kuba ndandikwinkqubo yokugqibezela

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incwadi yam, "Isivumelwano seMfazwe yeNtsholongwane ye-WHO".

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Kwaye ke ndadibana nento ethandabuzekayo,
kanye izinto ezibulala iintsholongwane.

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Kwaye ndiza kufunda izivakalisi ezithathu okanye ezine encwadini
yam, kuba oku, ewe, kungene encwadini, kwisahluko esincinci:

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I-WHO ilumkisa ngezifo ezibangelwa
kukuxhathisa kweentsholongwane kumachiza.

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Kwiphepha lama-89 encwadi yam, kubhaliwe: "I-WHO yathi
ngowe-2019 ukuba ixesha le-antibiotics, i-antiviral kunye

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namachiza omalari liyaphela kuba abantu bebengasabathinti.

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Njengomzekelo, i-WHO ikhankanya ukuxhathisa kumachiza esibulala
isifo sephepha kwaye ithi izigulana ezizizigidi ezili-1.6

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zisweleka nyaka ngamnye kwizigidi ezili-10 ezibanjwa sesi sifo.

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Ngo-2017, izigulana eziyi-600,000 ngonyaka bezingasabeli
kwi-rifampicin, eyona chiza isebenza kakhulu kuzo

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zonke iyeza somhlaza wemiphunga, kwaye i-82% yazo
bezingasabeli nakwamanye amayeza omhlaza wemiphunga.

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Ngenxa yoko, ukuxhathisa kwe-antibiotic kwabhengezwa yi-WHO
ngo-2019 njengenye yeentshatshela ezilishumi

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ezikhulu kwezempilo, kwaye ukusukela ngo-2022,
njengenye yeentshatshela ezintathu ezikhulu kwezempilo.

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Ewe, sithandwa Heiko Schöning, iziyobisi ezilwa
neentsholongwane okanye ukuxhathisa – uyazi konke ngazo.

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Iyafumaneka kwiSivumelwano seNtsholongwane –
ngelo xesha kwiSigaba 4G, ngoku kwakhona

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kuhlobo lwangoku lwangoMatshi 2024 kwiSigaba 3H.

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Baselapho ngaphakathi. Heiko, kuthetha ntoni konke oku?

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Ewe, kuqala, kulungile ukuphinda ndikubone.

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Ngamafutshane, luhlaselo
lwebhaktheriya kunokuba lweentsholongwane.

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Iziyobisi ezilwa neentsholongwane
zijongene neentsholongwane kunye nokhuselo kuzo.

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Oku kudla ngokuba yinto elungileyo, kuba
iibhaktheriya zibangela izifo ezibi kakhulu, kwaye ke

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sinika amayeza abizwa ngokuba zii-antibiotics.

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Kwaye la maqhekeza anokuthi ke nawo angasebenzi.

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Oku kubhekiselwa kuko njengokuba
iibhaktheriya "ziyakwazi ukumelana" – ezi zezi zimelana.

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Kwaye i-AMR, ukuxhathisa kwezibulali-ntsholongwane,
ibhekisa kwii-antibiotics ezingasebenzi ngoku.

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Kwaye ngokuphendula, i-World Health Organisation
ithi: Le yingxaki enkulu, kufuneka senze okuthile ngayo.

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Ingxaki ekuphela kwayo yeyokuba
yonke le nto inentsingiselo yobugebenga.

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Kulungiselelwa isiphithiphithi seentsholongwane, esifana
nesiphithiphithi seentsholongwane ze-viral esenziwa nge-Covid-19.

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Kwaye singayibonisa le nto, inyathelo
ngenyathelo, njengoko senjenjalo kwiincwadi zethu.

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Kwaye ngoku, malunga nonyaka emva kokuphuma kweencwadi zethu,
siyabona oku kubonakaliswa kumaxwebhu asemthethweni e-WHO.

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Kwaye yiloo nto kanye: ngoku,
ngo-Okthobha 2024, kukhutshwe amaxwebhu amatsha.

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Ewe, ndandisandul' ukukuthumela oko kwitshaneli yam yeTelegram.

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Uyayibona, kwaye yiyo lonto le ncoko iqale.

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Kanye, kuhle kakhulu. Mhlawumbi
singaziphakamisa nje iincwadi zethu sikhombise ikhamera.

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Yileyo incwadi ephume emva kwencwadi
yakho. Incwadi yakho sele yadlulayo, akunjalo?

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Ewe. Zive ukhululekile ukuyibonisa
kwikhamera kubo bonke abangekayifumani nabangayaziyo.

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Ewe, eneneni, kukho into eyenzekayo, kwaye ngaphezu kwako konke,
sendikucacisile kwincwadi yam ngelo xesha, kwisahluko

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esincinci, njengoko benditshilo, indlela i-WHO kunye ne-EU
ezixokisa ngayo ngokungenabulumko ngeengozi ekuthiwa zikho.

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Ngoko ke, iKomishoni ye-EU ibhala oku kulandelayo:

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"Xa sithathela ingqalelo ukuba inani lokusweleka kwabantu
ngonyaka ngenxa ye-AMR, okanye ukuxhathisa kweentsholongwane

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kumachiza, linganyuka liye kutsho kwizigidi ezili-10 kwihlabathi
jikelele ngonyaka ka-2015 ukuba siyaqhubeka

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nokubukela nje singenzi nto," kuyacaca ukuba
kutheni lo mba ungundoqo kwesi siphakamiso.

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Kwaye bathi phakathi kuka-2016 no-2020, inani
losulelo olubangelwe kukuxhathisa kwezinto

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ezibulala iintsholongwane kwi-EU lonyuke kakhulu.

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Zinoxanduva lokufa kwabantu
abangama-35,000 kulo lonke elase-EU nyaka ngamnye.

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Oku kongezwa ziindleko eziphezulu, ezifikelela
kwi-€1.5 bhiliyoni ngonyaka kwiinkqubo zethu zempilo zodwa.

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Yiloo nto ethethwa yi-EU. Ithetha ntoni
iportal yesibhedlele i-krankenhaus.de?

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Ngokutsho kweRobert Koch Institute, kuphela iimeko
ezinzima eziyi-2,424 ze-MRSA ezixeliweyo eJamani ngo-2018.

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Xa kuthelekiswa neminyaka edlulileyo, oku
kubonisa ukuhla kweentsholongwane ze-MRSA.

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Kwaye ngokutsho kweRobert Koch Institute, oku kwehla akubonakali
kuphela kulo lonke elaseJamani, kodwa nakwilizwe lonke le-EU.

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Kwaye i-EU ithetha ntoni ngokungenantloni? Phakathi
kuka-2016 no-2020, inani losulelo nokufa lonyuke kakhulu.

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Yiloo nto... – Siyaxokiswa kwaye siyakhohliswa!

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Heiko, yithathe wena! Uthi ntoni
ngaloo nto? Yinto engummangaliso!

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Ukucacisa: into eyenzekayo apha yile, yiCorona
2.0 ngokwenene. Kuphela ngeli xesha kusebenziswa

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iibhaktheriya, hayi ibali lengxaki yentsholongwane.

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Kwaye bafuna ukusoyikisa kwakhona, besithi kukho
iintsholongwane ezimbi kakhulu ezisabalalayo,

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ezingasabaziyo amayeza amnandi esesinayo ukuza kuthi ga ngoku.

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Kwaye ndisandul' ukuyilungiselela naphaya.

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Ngomhla wama-26 kuSeptemba 2024, intloko ye-WHO, uGqr. Tedros
Ghebreyesus, naye upapashe umyalezo kwi-who.int esithi iNdibano

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yeZizwe eziManyeneyo eNew York igqibe kwelokuba ngo-2024 ithathe
amanyathelo angqongqo ngakwi-AMR – ukuxhathisa

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kwezibulali-ntsholongwane – ngamanye amazwi,
ukuthatha amanyathelo angqongqo ngakwibhaktheriya.

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Malunga nesigidi sokufa ngonyaka
kwihlabathi jikelele ngoku kudityaniswe ne-AMR.

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Ewe, yile nto kanye endiyichazileyo
kwincwadi yam kunyaka ophelileyo.

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I-WHO ngokwenene iza kubonisa i-AMR njengeentshurubantu ezintsha.

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Ewe, kaloku, masithi, uBin Laden, ngoku yi-AMR, ezi baktheriya.

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Kwaye eneneni banako... – kulungile,
ulwimi lwakhe nalo lunjalo, lufana nolomkhosi.

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UGqr. Tedros Ghebreyesus uthi ukusuka eGaza
ukuya eSudan ukuya e-Ukraine, i-AMR ngoku

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inzima ngokukodwa ukuyilwa ngamaxesha emfazwe.

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EGaza, i-AMR inyuke nge-300 pesenti
ngexesha leziboniso ngo-2018 nango-2019 kuphela.

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Oko kukuthi, uthi kwanemiboniso iyingozi, kunyuke nge-300
pesenti, inokumelana namagciwane ngokuphindwe kathathu.

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Ngoko ke, oko kuthetha ukuba bafuna ukuphuhlisa amayeza amatsha.

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Ewe, kwaye into eyothusayo yeyokuba ngoku bapapashe iphepha
elinamaphepha ali-170, isicwangciso apho bathi isicwangciso

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esitsha kukuba bangasayi kuphinda basebenzise i-antibiotics
ukulwa iibhaktheriya, kodwa endaweni yoko basebenzise ukugonya.

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Ewe, khawucinge nje ngaloo nto.

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Ngoku bafuna ukusigonya kuzo zonke iintlobo zebhaktheriya
endaweni yokusinyanga nge-antibiotics ezisindisa ubomi.

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Kodwa Heiko, ungugqirha.

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Ingaba ukugonywa akungancedi? Okanye bububhanxa nje?

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Ewe, yonke le ngcamango iyathandabuzeka kakhulu,
okanye mandithi, ayisebenzi ngolo hlobo, ewe kona.

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Kwaye phantsi kwesigqibo sokuba bafuna ukuphepha
ezi nguqulelo zebhaktiriya, oko kukuthi, olu

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khuselo, ngoku bafuna ukugonya yonke into enokwenzeka.

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Kwaye eli phepha leephepha ezili-170, endifake
ikhonkco lalo kwitshaneli yam yeTelegram,

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sele linentlobo ezimalunga nama-50 zebhaktheriya.

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Kwaye eyokuqala yituberculosis.
Kwaye yona iyingozi kakhulu, kakhulu.

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Ngenxa yento osandul' ukuyithetha, oku
kudlala ngamanani... babeke isifo sephepha, i-TB,

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phezulu kuluhlu lwezinto abafuna ukulwa nazo.

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Kwaye amanani asemthethweni ngoku athi iimeko
zomkhuhlane wemiphunga zehlile kakhulu kule minyaka

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yakutshanje kuba zonke zifihlwa phantsi kweCovid-19.

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Ngoko ke oko kuthetha ukuba abo babedla ngokufa ngenxa yetyhfu
ngoku bafakwe nje kuphela kudidi lweziganeko ze-COVID-19.

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Kodwa oko kuthetha ukuba xa ngoku ususa la matyala
e-COVID-19, la manani, ngoko ke ngequbuliso siba

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nokuphindaphindeka kwamatyala esifo sephepha kabini.

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Kwaye oko kunokubangela uvalo olukhulu.

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Kwaye abalungiselela yile nto yokuba ngoku bafuna
ukusigonya. Nge-mRNA gene therapies, ukuthetha ngqo.

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Ngoko ke, hayi nge-antibiotics eziqhelekileyo, kodwa ngezi, kwaye
eli ligama elingundoqo, "ii-antibiotics ezingezizo

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eziqhelekileyo" – ezingezizo kwaphela ii-antibiotics – kunye
nonyango lwemfuza ye-mRNA, abalubiza ngokuba zizitofu zokugonya.

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Heiko, besinyanisile sobabini – sele uneminyaka
emininzi ulandela umkhondo wolwaphulo-mthetho lwamachiza.

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Ndiwufumene ngamabona-ndenzile ekupheleni konyaka ophelileyo.

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Sithandwa Heiko, oko bekusisiqalo nje, njengoko besicinga,
kumxholo wolwaphulo-mthetho lwamachiza lwe-AMR –

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izinto ezilwa neentsholongwane, ukuxhathisa – kunye
nesoyikiso esihambelanayo esiza kuphinda sisasazwe.

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Ngoku sisandul' ukutsalela
ingqalelo koku ngodliwano-ndlebe lokuqala.

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Siza kujonga uxwebhu lwe-WHO lwamaphepha ali-170
ngalo mbandela. Kwaye ndicebisa oku kulandelayo.

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Siza kuhlala siqaphe eli hloko kwaye siqhubeke nokwazisa
abathathi-nxaxheba bethu abanomdla kunye nabaphulaphuli.

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Uvumelana?

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Ewe, ngenene.

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Kwaye ndinokucela kuphela bonke
abaphulaphuli nababukeli ukuba bongeze ilizwi kwaye

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bazazise kwezi ncwadi, ezikhuselweyo kucenzura.

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Kuba esi sicwangciso siyaphunyezwa. Senzeka
ngokwenene, kwaye kuchithwa iibhiliyoni zeeponti kuso.

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Bayaqhubeka ngokungabinazintloni.
Yinto enzulu! Iyaqhubela phambili.

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Ngoko ke, ningahlali nje nize niphazanyiswe yiGaza, iUkraine nayo
yonke enye into, kodwa ke yibaniqwabele ngokwenene eli bali!

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Kwaye ke iyafika. Ungazivumeli
umangalwe nje, funda ngayo kwangaphambili!

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Hayi, kwaye kukwakho neenkampani zamachiza kuyo yonke indawo,
kuquka eJamani – eBrandenburg nakwezinye iindawo, kuquka

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eRhineland-Palatinate – kushicilelwa
amashishini amatsha amachiza kwaye kwakhiwa izakhiwo

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ezitsha apha nakwihlabathi jikelele ngemali eninzi.

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Kwaye kwakhona, kwiintsuku nje ezimbalwa ezidlulileyo
eBerlin, iJamani ithembise phantse ibhiliyoni kwi-WHO.

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IJamani iyavuma, kwaye i-Covid 2.0 iza
kuphunyezwa, kwaye thina siza kuzama ukuyinqanda.

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Heiko othandekayo, enkosi kakhulu ngexesha lakho!

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Siza kuqhubeka! Siza kubuya!

