WEBVTT

00:00.160 --> 00:06.710
Ukusukela malunga nonyaka ka-2019, i-WHO ibisoloko ilumkisa
ngokwanda kwezifo okubangelwa kukutyholwa kokumelana

00:06.710 --> 00:13.900
kweentsholongwane namachiza, njengoko la machiza
engasebenzi kangako ekulweni iintsholongwane ezibangela izifo.

00:13.900 --> 00:19.058
Isivumelwano sobhubhane se-WHO sikwabonelela
ngezinto ekuthiwa "zii-antimicrobial agents" kunye

00:19.058 --> 00:22.203
"ne-antimicrobial resistance" kwiidrafti zaso.

00:22.203 --> 00:31.763
Ngo-2022, i-WHO yabhengeza ukuxhathisa kwamagciwane
njengenye yeengozi ezintathu ezinkulu kakhulu kwimpilo.

00:31.763 --> 00:34.798
Kodwa ziziphi iinjongo zokwenene apha?

00:34.798 --> 00:37.530
Ngaba kufanele kubekho ukothuka ngeentsholongwane?

00:37.530 --> 00:45.630
Kwaye kuthekani ngezi antibiotics zintsha,
ezingaqhelekanga, ezizeyinyango lwemfuza ze-mRNA ngokwenene?

00:45.630 --> 00:53.840
Jonga olu dliwano-ndlebe lulandelayo noGqr
Heiko Schöning kunye nommeli uBeate Bahner.

00:55.652 --> 01:03.880
Ewe, ndiyanibulela ngokuba nibe nathi kule vidiyo
okokuqala kunye noGqr. Heiko Schöning, ingcaphephe yezifo

01:03.880 --> 01:08.630
ezosulelayo, uhlaselo kunye nokuhlaselwa ngobugebenga.

01:08.630 --> 01:17.185
Kwiinyanga ezininzi ezidlulileyo, ndatsalela uHeiko umnxeba,
ndichulumancile kancinci, kuba ndandikwinkqubo yokugqibezela

01:17.185 --> 01:21.523
incwadi yam, "Isivumelwano seMfazwe yeNtsholongwane ye-WHO".

01:21.523 --> 01:30.583
Kwaye ke ndadibana nento ethandabuzekayo,
kanye izinto ezibulala iintsholongwane.

01:30.583 --> 01:37.643
Kwaye ndiza kufunda izivakalisi ezithathu okanye ezine encwadini
yam, kuba oku, ewe, kungene encwadini, kwisahluko esincinci:

01:37.643 --> 01:44.130
I-WHO ilumkisa ngezifo ezibangelwa
kukuxhathisa kweentsholongwane kumachiza.

01:44.130 --> 01:56.386
Kwiphepha lama-89 encwadi yam, kubhaliwe: "I-WHO yathi
ngowe-2019 ukuba ixesha le-antibiotics, i-antiviral kunye

01:56.386 --> 02:03.596
namachiza omalari liyaphela kuba abantu bebengasabathinti.

02:03.596 --> 02:11.157
Njengomzekelo, i-WHO ikhankanya ukuxhathisa kumachiza esibulala
isifo sephepha kwaye ithi izigulana ezizizigidi ezili-1.6

02:11.157 --> 02:15.796
zisweleka nyaka ngamnye kwizigidi ezili-10 ezibanjwa sesi sifo.

02:15.796 --> 02:23.698
Ngo-2017, izigulana eziyi-600,000 ngonyaka bezingasabeli
kwi-rifampicin, eyona chiza isebenza kakhulu kuzo

02:23.698 --> 02:32.030
zonke iyeza somhlaza wemiphunga, kwaye i-82% yazo
bezingasabeli nakwamanye amayeza omhlaza wemiphunga.

02:32.030 --> 02:40.280
Ngenxa yoko, ukuxhathisa kwe-antibiotic kwabhengezwa yi-WHO
ngo-2019 njengenye yeentshatshela ezilishumi

02:40.280 --> 02:48.603
ezikhulu kwezempilo, kwaye ukusukela ngo-2022,
njengenye yeentshatshela ezintathu ezikhulu kwezempilo.

02:48.603 --> 02:57.850
Ewe, sithandwa Heiko Schöning, iziyobisi ezilwa
neentsholongwane okanye ukuxhathisa – uyazi konke ngazo.

02:57.850 --> 03:05.796
Iyafumaneka kwiSivumelwano seNtsholongwane –
ngelo xesha kwiSigaba 4G, ngoku kwakhona

03:05.796 --> 03:10.570
kuhlobo lwangoku lwangoMatshi 2024 kwiSigaba 3H.

03:10.570 --> 03:14.200
Baselapho ngaphakathi. Heiko, kuthetha ntoni konke oku?

03:14.200 --> 03:18.620
Ewe, kuqala, kulungile ukuphinda ndikubone.

03:18.620 --> 03:26.850
Ngamafutshane, luhlaselo
lwebhaktheriya kunokuba lweentsholongwane.

03:26.850 --> 03:34.470
Iziyobisi ezilwa neentsholongwane
zijongene neentsholongwane kunye nokhuselo kuzo.

03:34.470 --> 03:40.297
Oku kudla ngokuba yinto elungileyo, kuba
iibhaktheriya zibangela izifo ezibi kakhulu, kwaye ke

03:40.297 --> 03:44.163
sinika amayeza abizwa ngokuba zii-antibiotics.

03:44.163 --> 03:48.103
Kwaye la maqhekeza anokuthi ke nawo angasebenzi.

03:48.103 --> 03:53.823
Oku kubhekiselwa kuko njengokuba
iibhaktheriya "ziyakwazi ukumelana" – ezi zezi zimelana.

03:53.823 --> 04:01.049
Kwaye i-AMR, ukuxhathisa kwezibulali-ntsholongwane,
ibhekisa kwii-antibiotics ezingasebenzi ngoku.

04:01.049 --> 04:06.723
Kwaye ngokuphendula, i-World Health Organisation
ithi: Le yingxaki enkulu, kufuneka senze okuthile ngayo.

04:06.723 --> 04:10.823
Ingxaki ekuphela kwayo yeyokuba
yonke le nto inentsingiselo yobugebenga.

04:10.823 --> 04:20.446
Kulungiselelwa isiphithiphithi seentsholongwane, esifana
nesiphithiphithi seentsholongwane ze-viral esenziwa nge-Covid-19.

04:20.446 --> 04:25.643
Kwaye singayibonisa le nto, inyathelo
ngenyathelo, njengoko senjenjalo kwiincwadi zethu.

04:25.643 --> 04:36.583
Kwaye ngoku, malunga nonyaka emva kokuphuma kweencwadi zethu,
siyabona oku kubonakaliswa kumaxwebhu asemthethweni e-WHO.

04:36.583 --> 04:46.416
Kwaye yiloo nto kanye: ngoku,
ngo-Okthobha 2024, kukhutshwe amaxwebhu amatsha.

04:46.416 --> 04:49.763
Ewe, ndandisandul' ukukuthumela oko kwitshaneli yam yeTelegram.

04:49.763 --> 04:53.613
Uyayibona, kwaye yiyo lonto le ncoko iqale.

04:53.613 --> 04:59.176
Kanye, kuhle kakhulu. Mhlawumbi
singaziphakamisa nje iincwadi zethu sikhombise ikhamera.

04:59.176 --> 05:05.063
Yileyo incwadi ephume emva kwencwadi
yakho. Incwadi yakho sele yadlulayo, akunjalo?

05:05.063 --> 05:10.376
Ewe. Zive ukhululekile ukuyibonisa
kwikhamera kubo bonke abangekayifumani nabangayaziyo.

05:10.376 --> 05:20.893
Ewe, eneneni, kukho into eyenzekayo, kwaye ngaphezu kwako konke,
sendikucacisile kwincwadi yam ngelo xesha, kwisahluko

05:20.893 --> 05:31.903
esincinci, njengoko benditshilo, indlela i-WHO kunye ne-EU
ezixokisa ngayo ngokungenabulumko ngeengozi ekuthiwa zikho.

05:31.903 --> 05:37.943
Ngoko ke, iKomishoni ye-EU ibhala oku kulandelayo:

05:37.943 --> 05:45.302
"Xa sithathela ingqalelo ukuba inani lokusweleka kwabantu
ngonyaka ngenxa ye-AMR, okanye ukuxhathisa kweentsholongwane

05:45.302 --> 05:52.038
kumachiza, linganyuka liye kutsho kwizigidi ezili-10 kwihlabathi
jikelele ngonyaka ka-2015 ukuba siyaqhubeka

05:52.038 --> 05:57.676
nokubukela nje singenzi nto," kuyacaca ukuba
kutheni lo mba ungundoqo kwesi siphakamiso.

05:57.676 --> 06:05.343
Kwaye bathi phakathi kuka-2016 no-2020, inani
losulelo olubangelwe kukuxhathisa kwezinto

06:05.343 --> 06:10.203
ezibulala iintsholongwane kwi-EU lonyuke kakhulu.

06:10.203 --> 06:15.356
Zinoxanduva lokufa kwabantu
abangama-35,000 kulo lonke elase-EU nyaka ngamnye.

06:15.356 --> 06:20.690
Oku kongezwa ziindleko eziphezulu, ezifikelela
kwi-€1.5 bhiliyoni ngonyaka kwiinkqubo zethu zempilo zodwa.

06:20.690 --> 06:26.070
Yiloo nto ethethwa yi-EU. Ithetha ntoni
iportal yesibhedlele i-krankenhaus.de?

06:26.070 --> 06:39.200
Ngokutsho kweRobert Koch Institute, kuphela iimeko
ezinzima eziyi-2,424 ze-MRSA ezixeliweyo eJamani ngo-2018.

06:39.200 --> 06:47.650
Xa kuthelekiswa neminyaka edlulileyo, oku
kubonisa ukuhla kweentsholongwane ze-MRSA.

06:47.650 --> 06:56.556
Kwaye ngokutsho kweRobert Koch Institute, oku kwehla akubonakali
kuphela kulo lonke elaseJamani, kodwa nakwilizwe lonke le-EU.

06:56.556 --> 07:06.123
Kwaye i-EU ithetha ntoni ngokungenantloni? Phakathi
kuka-2016 no-2020, inani losulelo nokufa lonyuke kakhulu.

07:06.123 --> 07:09.623
Yiloo nto... – Siyaxokiswa kwaye siyakhohliswa!

07:09.623 --> 07:14.283
Heiko, yithathe wena! Uthi ntoni
ngaloo nto? Yinto engummangaliso!

07:14.283 --> 07:22.723
Ukucacisa: into eyenzekayo apha yile, yiCorona
2.0 ngokwenene. Kuphela ngeli xesha kusebenziswa

07:22.723 --> 07:28.270
iibhaktheriya, hayi ibali lengxaki yentsholongwane.

07:28.270 --> 07:36.297
Kwaye bafuna ukusoyikisa kwakhona, besithi kukho
iintsholongwane ezimbi kakhulu ezisabalalayo,

07:36.297 --> 07:42.276
ezingasabaziyo amayeza amnandi esesinayo ukuza kuthi ga ngoku.

07:42.276 --> 07:47.003
Kwaye ndisandul' ukuyilungiselela naphaya.

07:47.003 --> 07:58.435
Ngomhla wama-26 kuSeptemba 2024, intloko ye-WHO, uGqr. Tedros
Ghebreyesus, naye upapashe umyalezo kwi-who.int esithi iNdibano

07:58.435 --> 08:08.322
yeZizwe eziManyeneyo eNew York igqibe kwelokuba ngo-2024 ithathe
amanyathelo angqongqo ngakwi-AMR – ukuxhathisa

08:08.322 --> 08:17.664
kwezibulali-ntsholongwane – ngamanye amazwi,
ukuthatha amanyathelo angqongqo ngakwibhaktheriya.

08:17.664 --> 08:25.583
Malunga nesigidi sokufa ngonyaka
kwihlabathi jikelele ngoku kudityaniswe ne-AMR.

08:25.583 --> 08:30.309
Ewe, yile nto kanye endiyichazileyo
kwincwadi yam kunyaka ophelileyo.

08:30.309 --> 08:35.923
I-WHO ngokwenene iza kubonisa i-AMR njengeentshurubantu ezintsha.

08:35.923 --> 08:40.870
Ewe, kaloku, masithi, uBin Laden, ngoku yi-AMR, ezi baktheriya.

08:40.870 --> 08:47.410
Kwaye eneneni banako... – kulungile,
ulwimi lwakhe nalo lunjalo, lufana nolomkhosi.

08:47.410 --> 08:53.884
UGqr. Tedros Ghebreyesus uthi ukusuka eGaza
ukuya eSudan ukuya e-Ukraine, i-AMR ngoku

08:53.884 --> 08:57.643
inzima ngokukodwa ukuyilwa ngamaxesha emfazwe.

08:57.643 --> 09:08.050
EGaza, i-AMR inyuke nge-300 pesenti
ngexesha leziboniso ngo-2018 nango-2019 kuphela.

09:08.050 --> 09:18.743
Oko kukuthi, uthi kwanemiboniso iyingozi, kunyuke nge-300
pesenti, inokumelana namagciwane ngokuphindwe kathathu.

09:18.743 --> 09:25.270
Ngoko ke, oko kuthetha ukuba bafuna ukuphuhlisa amayeza amatsha.

09:25.270 --> 09:32.197
Ewe, kwaye into eyothusayo yeyokuba ngoku bapapashe iphepha
elinamaphepha ali-170, isicwangciso apho bathi isicwangciso

09:32.197 --> 09:40.090
esitsha kukuba bangasayi kuphinda basebenzise i-antibiotics
ukulwa iibhaktheriya, kodwa endaweni yoko basebenzise ukugonya.

09:40.090 --> 09:42.530
Ewe, khawucinge nje ngaloo nto.

09:42.530 --> 09:52.623
Ngoku bafuna ukusigonya kuzo zonke iintlobo zebhaktheriya
endaweni yokusinyanga nge-antibiotics ezisindisa ubomi.

09:52.623 --> 09:54.396
Kodwa Heiko, ungugqirha.

09:54.396 --> 09:59.720
Ingaba ukugonywa akungancedi? Okanye bububhanxa nje?

09:59.720 --> 10:08.996
Ewe, yonke le ngcamango iyathandabuzeka kakhulu,
okanye mandithi, ayisebenzi ngolo hlobo, ewe kona.

10:08.996 --> 10:15.192
Kwaye phantsi kwesigqibo sokuba bafuna ukuphepha
ezi nguqulelo zebhaktiriya, oko kukuthi, olu

10:15.192 --> 10:19.103
khuselo, ngoku bafuna ukugonya yonke into enokwenzeka.

10:19.103 --> 10:27.837
Kwaye eli phepha leephepha ezili-170, endifake
ikhonkco lalo kwitshaneli yam yeTelegram,

10:27.837 --> 10:32.503
sele linentlobo ezimalunga nama-50 zebhaktheriya.

10:32.503 --> 10:37.363
Kwaye eyokuqala yituberculosis.
Kwaye yona iyingozi kakhulu, kakhulu.

10:37.363 --> 10:46.124
Ngenxa yento osandul' ukuyithetha, oku
kudlala ngamanani... babeke isifo sephepha, i-TB,

10:46.124 --> 10:51.123
phezulu kuluhlu lwezinto abafuna ukulwa nazo.

10:51.123 --> 11:00.818
Kwaye amanani asemthethweni ngoku athi iimeko
zomkhuhlane wemiphunga zehlile kakhulu kule minyaka

11:00.818 --> 11:06.376
yakutshanje kuba zonke zifihlwa phantsi kweCovid-19.

11:06.376 --> 11:13.943
Ngoko ke oko kuthetha ukuba abo babedla ngokufa ngenxa yetyhfu
ngoku bafakwe nje kuphela kudidi lweziganeko ze-COVID-19.

11:13.943 --> 11:20.291
Kodwa oko kuthetha ukuba xa ngoku ususa la matyala
e-COVID-19, la manani, ngoko ke ngequbuliso siba

11:20.291 --> 11:23.916
nokuphindaphindeka kwamatyala esifo sephepha kabini.

11:23.916 --> 11:26.570
Kwaye oko kunokubangela uvalo olukhulu.

11:26.570 --> 11:35.896
Kwaye abalungiselela yile nto yokuba ngoku bafuna
ukusigonya. Nge-mRNA gene therapies, ukuthetha ngqo.

11:35.896 --> 11:41.754
Ngoko ke, hayi nge-antibiotics eziqhelekileyo, kodwa ngezi, kwaye
eli ligama elingundoqo, "ii-antibiotics ezingezizo

11:41.754 --> 11:50.136
eziqhelekileyo" – ezingezizo kwaphela ii-antibiotics – kunye
nonyango lwemfuza ye-mRNA, abalubiza ngokuba zizitofu zokugonya.

11:50.136 --> 11:59.130
Heiko, besinyanisile sobabini – sele uneminyaka
emininzi ulandela umkhondo wolwaphulo-mthetho lwamachiza.

11:59.130 --> 12:02.456
Ndiwufumene ngamabona-ndenzile ekupheleni konyaka ophelileyo.

12:02.456 --> 12:12.429
Sithandwa Heiko, oko bekusisiqalo nje, njengoko besicinga,
kumxholo wolwaphulo-mthetho lwamachiza lwe-AMR –

12:12.429 --> 12:22.563
izinto ezilwa neentsholongwane, ukuxhathisa – kunye
nesoyikiso esihambelanayo esiza kuphinda sisasazwe.

12:22.563 --> 12:27.230
Ngoku sisandul' ukutsalela
ingqalelo koku ngodliwano-ndlebe lokuqala.

12:27.230 --> 12:33.663
Siza kujonga uxwebhu lwe-WHO lwamaphepha ali-170
ngalo mbandela. Kwaye ndicebisa oku kulandelayo.

12:33.663 --> 12:40.503
Siza kuhlala siqaphe eli hloko kwaye siqhubeke nokwazisa
abathathi-nxaxheba bethu abanomdla kunye nabaphulaphuli.

12:40.503 --> 12:42.179
Uvumelana?

12:42.179 --> 12:43.252
Ewe, ngenene.

12:43.252 --> 12:50.252
Kwaye ndinokucela kuphela bonke
abaphulaphuli nababukeli ukuba bongeze ilizwi kwaye

12:50.252 --> 12:54.336
bazazise kwezi ncwadi, ezikhuselweyo kucenzura.

12:54.336 --> 12:59.616
Kuba esi sicwangciso siyaphunyezwa. Senzeka
ngokwenene, kwaye kuchithwa iibhiliyoni zeeponti kuso.

12:59.616 --> 13:03.670
Bayaqhubeka ngokungabinazintloni.
Yinto enzulu! Iyaqhubela phambili.

13:03.670 --> 13:13.490
Ngoko ke, ningahlali nje nize niphazanyiswe yiGaza, iUkraine nayo
yonke enye into, kodwa ke yibaniqwabele ngokwenene eli bali!

13:13.490 --> 13:18.696
Kwaye ke iyafika. Ungazivumeli
umangalwe nje, funda ngayo kwangaphambili!

13:18.696 --> 13:27.722
Hayi, kwaye kukwakho neenkampani zamachiza kuyo yonke indawo,
kuquka eJamani – eBrandenburg nakwezinye iindawo, kuquka

13:27.722 --> 13:34.529
eRhineland-Palatinate – kushicilelwa
amashishini amatsha amachiza kwaye kwakhiwa izakhiwo

13:34.529 --> 13:38.923
ezitsha apha nakwihlabathi jikelele ngemali eninzi.

13:38.923 --> 13:45.403
Kwaye kwakhona, kwiintsuku nje ezimbalwa ezidlulileyo
eBerlin, iJamani ithembise phantse ibhiliyoni kwi-WHO.

13:45.403 --> 13:52.083
IJamani iyavuma, kwaye i-Covid 2.0 iza
kuphunyezwa, kwaye thina siza kuzama ukuyinqanda.

13:52.083 --> 13:55.043
Heiko othandekayo, enkosi kakhulu ngexesha lakho!

13:55.043 --> 13:56.783
Siza kuqhubeka! Siza kubuya!
