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Kusukela cishe ngo-2019, i-WHO iye yaxwayisa ngokwanda kwezifo
okubangelwa ukumelana okucatshangwayo kwamagciwane namakhemikhali

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okubulala amagciwane, njengoba amakhemikhali
okubulala amagciwane esevele engasebenzi kahle

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kangako ekulweni namagciwane abangela izifo.

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Isivumelwano se-WHO sokubhekana nobhubhane siphinde
sinikeze okubizwa ngokuthi "izidakamizwa ezilwa namagciwane"

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kanye "nokumelana namagciwane" ezindabeni zaso zokuqala.

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Ngo-2022, i-WHO yamemezela ukuthi ukumelana
namagciwane kuyisongo esikhulu kwezintathu kwezempilo.

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Kodwa yiziphi izinhloso zangempela lapha?

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Kufanele kube nokwesaba kwamagciwane?

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Kuthiwani ngama-antibiotic amasha, angajwayelekile,
empeleni okuyizindlela zokwelapha izigene ze-mRNA?

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Buka ingxoxo elandelayo noDkt. Heiko
Schöning kanye nommeli uBeate Bahner.

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Yebo, ngiyanibingelela lapha kule vidiyo, okokuqala
ngihlanganiswe nodokotela uHeiko Schöning, uchwepheshe wezifo

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ezibhubhanayo, ukuhlaselwa kanye nokuhlaselwa kobugebengu.

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Ezinyangeni eziningi ezedlule ngashayela uHeiko
ngokuthile ngijabule, ngoba ngangisesigabeni

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sokugcina ukubhala incwadi yami ethi "WHO Pandemic Treaty".

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Kwathi-ke ngahlangabezana nento
engabazekayo, okungukuthi izinto ezibulala amagciwane.

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Futhi ngizofunda imisho emithathu noma emine encwadini
yami, ngoba lokhu sekungene encwadini, esahlukweni esincane:

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I-WHO iwisa isixwayiso ngeziguli
ezibangelwa ukumelana kwamagciwane namantibhayothiki.

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Ekhasini 89 encwadini yami kubhalwe: "I-WHO yathi kusukela
ngo-2019 ukuthi isikhathi samaphilisi

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e-antibiotic, e-antiviral kanye namaphilisi wokwelapha
imalariya sasiphela ngoba abantu babe sebezivikela kuwo."

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Isibonelo, i-WHO ikhomba ukumelana nemithi yokwelapha
ithuberculosis futhi ithi iziguli ezingu-1.6 million kwabantu

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abayizigidi eziyishumi abathelelekile zifa minyaka yonke.

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Ngo-2017, iziguli ezingu-600 000 ngonyaka zazimelana
ne-rifampicin, umuthi osebenza kahle kakhulu kunayo

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yonke yokwelapha ithuberculosis, kanti u-82 % wazo
zazimelana neminye imithi yokwelapha ithuberculosis.

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Ngenxa yalokho, ukumelana nama-antibiotic kwamenyezelwa yi-WHO
ngo-2019 njengomunye wezinsongo eziyishumi

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ezinkulu kwezempilo, kanti kusukela ngo-2022 sekubalwa
phakathi kwezintathu ezinkulu kakhulu kwezempilo.

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Yebo, Heiko Schöning othandekayo, izidakamizwa ezibulala
amagciwane noma ukumelana nazo – uyakwazi konke ngazo.

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Kuyatholakala eNtwaneni Yobhubhane – ngaleso
sikhathi kuSigaba 4G, manje futhi

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enguqulweni yamanje kusukela ngoMashi 2024 kuSigaba 3H.

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Basasele lapho ngaphakathi. Heiko, lokhu konke kumayelana nani?

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Yebo, kuqala nje, kuhle ukukubona futhi.

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Ngamafuphi, kuwuhlaselo lwamagciwane kunokuba kube yizivayirasi.

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Izidakamizwa ezibulala amagciwane zigxile
kumagciwane nasekuvikeleni kumagciwane.

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Lokhu ngokuvamile kuyinto enhle, ngoba
amabhaktheriya abangela izifo ezinzima kakhulu, ngakho-ke

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unikeza imithi ebizwa ngokuthi ama-antibiotics.

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Futhi lezi zindlela zokwelapha zingase zingasebenzi.

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Lokhu kubizwa ngokuthi
amabhaktheriya aba 'nomelana' – lezi yizimelana.

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Futhi i-AMR, ukumelana namakhambi abulala amagciwane,
ibhekisela kumakhambi abulala amagciwane angasasebenzi.

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Futhi njengempendulo, iNhlangano Yezempilo Yomhlaba
Ithi: Lena inkinga enkulu, kumele senze okuthile ngayo.

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Inkinga kuphela ukuthi konke lokhu kunemibala yobugebengu.

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Kuyenziwa ukwesaba kwamagciwane, okufana
nokwesaba okubangelwa yizifutho okwenzeka nge-Covid-19.

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Futhi singakufakazela lokhu, isinyathelo
ngesinyathelo, njengoba senze ezincwadini zethu.

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Manje, cishe unyaka owodwa emva
kokushicilelwa kwezincwadi zethu, sesikubona lokhu

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kubonakaliswa emibhalweni esemthethweni ye-WHO.

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Futhi yilokho okubalulekile: manje,
ngo-Okthoba 2024, sekukhishwe imibhalo emisha.

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Yebo, ngangisanda ukukuthumela lokho esiteshini sami se-Telegram.

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Wakubona, futhi yilokho okwabangela le ngxoxo.

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Impela, kuhle kakhulu. Mhlawumbe
singazibamba nje izincwadi zethu phambi kwekhamera.

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Yilowo mqulu owaphuma ngemva kwakho.
Incwadi yakho isele ngemuva kwakho, akunjalo?

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Yebo. Zizwe ukhululekile ukuyibamba phambi
kwekhamera kubo bonke abangakayitholi futhi abangakayazi.

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Empeleni, kunento eyenzekayo, futhi ngaphezu kwakho konke,
sengichaze encwadini yami ngaleso sikhathi, esahlukweni

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esincane, njengoba ngishilo, ukuthi i-WHO ne-EU
zombili zixoka ngokungenabuso mayelana nezingozi ezibikwayo.

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Ngakho-ke, iKomishana ye-EU ibhala okulandelayo:

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Uma kubhekwa ukuthi inani lokufa lonyaka ngenxa yokumelana
kwamagciwane (AMR), okungukuthi ukumelana kwamagciwane ezibulala

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amagciwane, lingakhuphuka lifinyelele ezigidini eziyishumi
emhlabeni wonke ngo-2015 uma siqhubeka sime nje

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singathathi zinyathelo, kuba sobala ukuthi kungani
le ndaba iyisihloko esiyinhloko salesi siphakamiso.

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Futhi bathi phakathi kuka-2016 no-2020,
inani lokutheleleka okubangelwa ukumelana

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kwemithi ebulala amagciwane e-EU lenyuke kakhulu.

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Banomthwalo wemiphumela yokufa kwabantu
abangama-35 000 kulo lonke i-EU minyaka yonke.

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Okwengeziwe kulokhu izindleko eziphezulu, ezifika
ku-€1.5 billion ngonyaka kumasistimu ethu wezempilo kuphela.

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Yilokho i-EU ekushoyo. Iphothali
yesibhedlela krankenhaus.de ithi ukuthini?

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Ngokusho kweRobert Koch Institute, kwabikwa kuphela
izimo ezinzima eziyi-2,424 ze-MRSA eJalimane ngo-2018.

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Uma kuqhathaniswa neminyaka edlule,
lokhu kumela ukwehla kokutheleleka kwe-MRSA.

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Futhi ngokweRobert Koch Institute, lokhu kwehla akubonakali
kuphela eJalimane, kodwa nakuzo zonke izizwe ezingamalungu e-EU.

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Futhi i-EU ithi ngokungahloniphi? Phakathi kuka-2016
no-2020, inani lokutheleleka nokufa lenyuke kakhulu.

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Lokho... – siyaxotshwa amanga futhi siyadukiswa!

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Heiko, thatha! Uthi yini ngalokho? Lokho kuyamangaza!

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Ukuze kucace: okwenzekayo lapha empeleni yi-Corona 2.0.

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Futhi bafuna ukusethusa futhi bathi kunamagciwane
amabi kakhulu ajikeleza, asevele eneqhaza

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ekumelaneni namabhayothikhi amahle esasinawo kuze kube manje.

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Futhi ngisanda kuyilungisa lapha futhi.

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Ngo-26 Septhemba 2024, inhloko ye-WHO, uDkt. Tedros Ghebreyesus,
uphinde wathumela umlayezo ku-who.int ethi i-UN General Assembly

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eNew York isinqume ngo-2024 ukuthatha izinyathelo
eziqinile zokulwa nokumelana kwamagciwane – AMR – okusho

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ukuthatha izinyathelo eziqinile zokulwa namabhaktheriya.

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Cishe izigidi eziyisodwa zokufa ngonyaka
emhlabeni wonke manje sezixhunyaniswe nokumelana nemithi.

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Yebo, yilokho ngqo engangichazile
encwadini yami ngonyaka owedlule.

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I-WHO izokwethula i-AMR njengezigebengu ezintsha.

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Yebo, kahle, njengokuthi, ake sithi uBin
Laden, manje sekuyi-AMR, lezi zibhaktheriya.

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Futhi empeleni bane... – kahle, ulimi
lwakhe luphinde lube kanjalo, cishe lwezempi.

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UDkt. Tedros Ghebreyesus uthi kusukela eGaza kuya eSudan kuya
e-Ukraine, i-AMR manje inzima kakhulu ukuyilwa ngesikhathi sempi.

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EGaza, i-AMR yanyuka ngo-300% ngesikhathi
samademonstrasho ngo-2018 nango-2019 kuphela.

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Okusho ukuthi, uthi ngisho nokubonisa
kuyingozi, kukhuphuka ngo-300%, okukodwa kunezikhathi

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ezintathu ukumelana nemithi yokubulala amagciwane.

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Ngakho-ke, lokho kusho ukuthi bafuna ukuthuthukisa imithi emisha.

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Yebo, futhi okungakholakali wukuthi manje sebashicilele iphepha
elinamakhasi angu-170, uhlelo abathi kulo ukuthi

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uhlelo olusha akusekho ukusebenzisa ama-antibiotic
ukulwa namagciwane, kodwa kunalokho ukusebenzisa ukugoma.

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Yebo, cabanga nje ngalokho.

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Manje bafuna ukusigonyela zonke izinhlobo zamagciwane
esikhundleni sokwelashwa ngama-antibiotics asindisa izimpilo.

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Kodwa Heiko, ungudokotela.

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Ngabe umjovo wokugoma awungasizi? Noma ingabe kuwubuwula nje?

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Yebo, yonke le ncazelo ingabazeka kakhulu,
noma ngempela, akusebenzi ngaleyo ndlela, vele.

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Futhi ngaphansi kwesithunzi sokufuna ukugwema lezi
zinguquko zamabhaktheriya, okungukuthi lezi zimelana

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nemithi, manje bafuna ukugonyela konke okungenzeka.

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Futhi leli phepha elinamakhasi angu-170, engilifake
isixhumanisi kuso esiteshini sami se-Telegram, selivele

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liqukethe cishe izinhlobo ezingama-50 zebhaktheriya.

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Futhi inombolo yokuqala yi-tuberculosis.
Futhi lokho kuyingozi kakhulu kakhulu.

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Ngenxa yalokho okushiwo manje, lokhu
ukudlala ngamanani... bafake ithuberculosis, i-TB,

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phezulu ohlwini lwezinto abafuna ukulwa nazo.

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Futhi izinombolo ezisemthethweni manje zithi
amacala e-tuberculosis ehla kakhulu eminyakeni

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yamuva nje ngoba afihlwa wonke ngaphansi kwe-Covid-19.

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Ngakho-ke lokho kusho ukuthi labo ababevele besifa ngenxa
yetuberculosis manje sebebalwa nje njengezimo ze-COVID-19.

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Kodwa lokho kusho ukuthi uma manje usususa lezi
zimo ze-COVID-19, lezi zibalo, khona-ke ngokuzumayo

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siba nokuphindeka kabili kwezimo zotuberculosis.

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Futhi lokho kungabangela ukwesaba okukhulu.

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Futhi abakulungiselela manje ukuthi bafuna
ukusigonyela. Ngezokwelapha kwe-gene ze-mRNA, ngokunembile.

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Ngakho-ke hhayi ngama-antibiotic ajwayelekile, kodwa
ngama-antibiotic angajwayelekile – okungewona

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ama-antibiotic nhlobo – kanye nokwelashwa
kwe-mRNA yamagene, abakubiza ngokuthi izitozo.

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Heiko, sobabili sasilungile – usuhambile
emzileni wobugebengu bezemithi iminyaka eminingi manje.

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Ngahlangana nakho ekupheleni konyaka odlule.

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Heiko othandekayo, lokho kwakuyisidlo sokuvula umlomo sokuqala
ngesihloko se-AMR – izinto ezibulala amagciwane nokumelana nazo –

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kanye nokwesaba okuhambisana nakho okufanele kusabalaliswe futhi.

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Manje sesikade sigcizelele lokhu ngokuxoxisana kokuqala nje.

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Sizobheka umbhalo we-WHO onamakhasi angu-170
ngalesi sihloko. Futhi ngiphakamisa okulandelayo.

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Sizohlala silawula lesi simo futhi siqhubeke nokwazisa
ababambiqhaza bethu abanentshisekelo nabalaleli bethu.

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Uyavuma?

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Yebo, ngempela.

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Futhi ngingacela kuphela bonke abalaleli
nababukeli ukuthi basabalalise leli zindaba futhi

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bazazise kulezi zincwadi, ezivikelwe ekucwasi.

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Ngoba lolu hlelo seluqaliswa. Kuyenzeka
ngempela, futhi lubandakanya izigidigidi zemali.

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Baqhubeka ngokungenamahloni. Kuyinkinga enkulu! Kuyaqhubeka.

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Ngakho-ke ungahlali nje ubuke ukuze udideke
ngeGaza, i-Ukraine kanye nakho konke okunye, kodwa

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empeleni yenza le ndaba ibe sobala futhi icace!

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Futhi-ke kuyafika. Ungavumeli ukuthi
ukumangale nje; funda ngakho kusengaphambili!

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Cha, futhi kukhona nezinkampani zemithi ezikhona yonke indawo,
kuhlanganise naseJalimane – nakuBrandenburg nakwezinye

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izifundazwe, nakuRhineland-Palatinate –
imboni entsha yemithi, nezakhiwo ezintsha

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ezakhiwa lapha nasemhlabeni wonke ngemali eningi.

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Futhi futhi, ezinsukwini ezimbalwa ezedlule
eBerlin, iJalimane ithembise cishe ibhiliyoni ku-WHO.

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IJalimane seyivumile, futhi i-Covid 2.0
izosebenza, futhi sizozama ukuyivimbela.

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Heiko othandekayo, ngiyabonga kakhulu ngesikhathi sakho!

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Sizozama njalo! Sizobuya!