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Ngakhulela eBelgium futhi ngadayiselwa
enethiwekhi yababulali bezingane ezihlukumeza

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ngokocansi cishe ngosuku lwami lokuzalwa lwesithupha.

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Bengisetshenziswa kule nethiwekhi iminyaka emihlanu nengxenye.

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Amadoda asebekhulile ababeyingxenye yale kilabhu
ekhethekile babe khona ngezizathu ezahlukene,

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kodwa kwakunotshwala oluningi nezidakamizwa eziningi.

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Futhi izingane zaziyimpahla, impahla ephakeme kunazo zonke,
ebaluleke kakhulu, futhi zazisetshenziswa kakhulu ocansini.

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Kodwa kwakukhona futhi ama-aristokhrasi ambalwa abengamalungu
aleli qembu futhi abebathokozela ukubulala izingane.

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Kwathi-ke kwaba isikhathi sami. Lapho
ngineminyaka eyishumi nanye, kwakuzobulawa.

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Ngahlukunyezwa ngoba umuntu owayengivikela okwesikhashana
wabe esengihlupha kabi kakhulu wayeseqedile ngami.

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Bengiboshwe etafuleni lokubulala.

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Kwakumnyama ngegazi labo bonke izingane ezaziphambi kwami.

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Bengikhona lapho amahora ambalwa.

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Umzimba wami ugcwele izibazi. Futhi
isibazi ngasinye singikhumbuza ngaleso sikhathi.

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Bengicabanga ukuthi ngizobulawa, njengabo bonke
abantwana abangazange bathandwe ngokwanele ukuze baphile.

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Futhi nami bengizokhohlwa. Futhi bengangingakakulungele ukufa.

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Othile kule nethiwekhi wangithanda ngokwanele ukungisindisa.

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Ukushungulwa kwahlala amahora ambalwa.
Bengikule nethiwekhi iminyaka emihlanu nengxenye.

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Ngalesi sikhathi, ngadlwengulwa kaningi kakhulu kakhulu kakhulu.

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Anginazo izibazi engingazibonisa ukuthi ngadlwengulwa kangaki.

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Kodwa ngakubala. Kwakuvamile ngempelasonto, ubusuku bonke.

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Ngakho-ke ngabala ukuthi ngangihlukunyezwa ngokocansi, ngempela
ngihlukunyezwa ngokocansi, cishe amahora ayisithupha ngesonto.

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Amahora angu-1,716 okudlwengulwa ngaphambi
kokuba ngifinyelele eminyakeni eyishumi nambili.

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Ngakhulela ngemiyalelo enganginikezwa umuntu ongisindisile.

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Lokho kwangigcina kude nobufebe nezidakamizwa futhi
kwangikhupha eBelgium, lapho konke lokho kwenzeka khona.

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Yize ngangingenazo izibazi, njengomuntu osencane ngagxila
kakhulu ekubeni into yokocansi kangangokuthi ngadonsa

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amadoda, futhi ingxenye yami yayidinga lokho ukuze iphile.

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Ngoba yilona kuphela indlela engangiyazi yokuzizwa ngihle ngami.

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Futhi njengentombazane encane, ngaphathwa
ngokungahloniphi futhi ngasetshenziswa kakhulu.

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Kodwa-ke wonke umuntu wayeshesha
ukungibeka icala ngokuba ngingalawuli ucansi.

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Ishibhile, njengoba sekushiwo, isifebe. Zonke lezi zinto,
zonke lezi zigama zokuhlambaza, zangigweba ngokushesha kangaka.

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Kwathi-ke, njengoba ngangiwululama, ngaqaphela
ukuthi cha, kwakumele ngiphume kulomkhuba

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engangiwubambekile kuwo, lapho ngangidinga ukunakwa ngokocansi.

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Kufanele ngizihlukanise nalokhu futhi nginqabe ukuvumela ukuthi
ngiphathwe njengento. Ngifuna ukuba owesifazane okhululekile.

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Ngakho-ke, iminyaka ngeminyaka, ngasebenza ngokuzwa
ubuhlungu bonke bokuphathwa engangiphatheke

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ngakho, ukungcatshwa kwabazali bami, nokuthengiswa kwami.

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Izingane yizilungu ezibuthakathaka kakhulu
emphakathini wethu. Ngakho-ke masidale umphakathi lapho

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izingane ziphephile futhi zinekomunithi ezizungezile.

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Wonke umntwana ufanelwe ukuphepha. Akekho umntwana
ofanelwe lokho engikuhlangabezane nakho nalokho

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izigidi zezingane ezikuhlangabezana nakho nsuku zonke.

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Kodwa ngeshwa, lokho kuyingxenye yohlelo lwamanje.

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Njengabesifazane, sinamandla amaningi okuzwela
ngempela konke okumele sikubekezelele njengabesifazane.

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Lokho kusinika amandla angaphezu kwabo bonke. Bonke ubuhlungu
obungemuva kokungabi namandla nokuhlazeka, ngizwa ngempela lokho

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okwenzeke kimi, ngiqonda ngempela ukuthi kwakungeyona mina.

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Ngizizwa ngimnandi ekupheleni kosuku.

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Bengingumntwana. Ngaba isisulu. Bekungeyona icala lami.

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Ungathola okwengeziwe ngo-Anneke Lucas engxoxweni elandelayo.

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Isingeniso Gareth: Isivakashi sethu esilandelayo sijoyina nathi
sivela eNew York. Anneke Lucas wathengiswa

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ngumama wakhe njengesigqila socansi
somntwana enethiwekhi yabaphangi bezingane eBelgium.

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Anneke wayehlukunyezwa ngokocansi nsuku zonke
ngamadoda amadala aze abe neminyaka engu-11.

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Iningi labo kwakuyizishoshovu zezepolitiki ezidumile
zaseBelgium. Ngesikhathi eneminyaka engu-11, wabhekwa

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sengathi akasasizi kunethiwekhi, wahlukunyezwa cishe wafa.

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Wahlengwa ekufeni yindoda eyayixoxisana
nezishoshovu ezaziphethe inethiwekhi.

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Ingxoxo Gareth: Anneke, ngiyabonga kakhulu
ngokukhuluma nathi. Into yokuqala eyangithinta

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ngempela kwakuwukuthi wawuthengiswe ngumama wakho.

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Njengobaba, nganginokunzima ukubona
injongo yakhona. Uyabhekana nakho kanjani?

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Anneke: Kuyinqubo yokuphila yonke. Ngoba, vele,
umama wami wayengumuntu owayesondele kakhulu kimi.

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Ngicabanga ukuthi sonke siyabakhathaleli abakhulu
kuqala nangaphezulu kwakho konke. Waye yedwa futhi wayenami.

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Futhi-ke – uyazi, umama wami wayengaphilanga;
ungathi wayenesifo sengqondo, esingazange sihlolwe.

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Ngingamchaza njengomuntu onezimpawu
zokuziphatha kwengqondo okungajwayelekile;

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ngendlela eyenzeka kwesinye isikhathi kubesifazane.

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Ngakho-ke wayezithoba kakhulu kubo bonke amadoda.

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Waziphatha njengentombazane eneminyaka emihlanu, eyayizidlalela
ngokungajwayelekile, egqokisa ngokocansi kubo bonke amadoda.

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Wazinikela kalula kakhulu.
Ngicabanga ukuthi ngangiyisithombe sakhe.

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Kwakunzima kakhulu ukuba eduze kwabo ngoba kwakungekho
ndawo yami. Kwakuyisithombe engqondweni ngokuphelele.

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Ngangingumntwana wesifazane omncane
obuthakathaka, ongabonakali, ongakhangayo, ongumsizi

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wakhe omncane, futhi ngangihle noma ngangimbi.

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Kodwa umbuzo wangempela ozibuza wona ngowokuthi:
"Kungenzeka kanjani ukuthi noma ubani enze into enjalo? Abantu

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abadala kulesi nethiwekhi bangayenza kanjani lokhu ezinganeni?"

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Iningi labo babengabazali. Futhi iningi labo,
ngiyaziqiniseka, babengabazali abenza ucansi nomntwana wabo.

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Kwathi-ke, umama wami wayengakhulanga
ngokomzwelo selokhu eneminyaka emihlanu ubudala.

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Kwaba ngaleso sikhathi lapho umama wakhe washona.

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Wavela endaweni yokulimala okukhulu kwengqondo,
engicabanga ukuthi kwenzeka eBelgium ngo-1939,

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edolobheni elalivame ukudutshulwa ngamabhomu phakathi nempi.

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Ubaba wakhe wayeyiboshwa yempi ekamu lokucindezela.

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Uyazi, ngicabanga ukuthi bekunzima kakhulu ngenxa
yokushona kukamama wakhe kanye nokufa kwabanye emndenini.

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Ngemva kwempi, kwakukhona izinsiza ezimbalwa ezitholakalayo
zokusiza abantu bapholise ekulimaleni kwengqondo. Ngakho-ke

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wayedluliselwa ezindaweni zasemaphandleni eBelgium,
wayedluliselwa ngokuphelele. Mhlawumbe abantu babecabanga ukuthi

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wayenokuziphatha okungafanele ngokocansi ngoba
kwakuyisifunda esinamakholwa amaKatolika amaningi, kodwa

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wayedluliselwa. Futhi mina ngangiyisisulu sakhe esikhulu.

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Gareth: Kunzima kakhulu ukuqonda lo mqondo wokuthengisa
ingane yakho lapho. Kodwa futhi nabantu abakwazi ukwenza lokhu.

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Kunzima kakhulu ukuqonda konke lokhu.
Abantu bayakwazi ukwenza into embi kangaka.

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Wawineminyaka emingaki lapho wabona ubukhulu bobubi?

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Ngoba lokho kungento umntwana okufanele
angaze abhekane nayo nhlobo, noma kancane nje.

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Anneke: Kunjalo! Inethiwekhi imbi kakhulu. Futhi mina
– njengoba wawusho ekwethulweni – ngangikuyo

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ngempela inethiwekhi yaseBelgium eyayisebenza njenge-mafia.

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Kodwa yayiholwa uNgqongqoshe Wezokuvikela ngaleso sikhathi.

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Wayengumuntu wezepolitiki owaba nomsebenzi
osheshayo. WayenguNdunankulu waseBelgium kabili:

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uPaul Vanden Boeynants. Ngamkhuluma encwadini yami.

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Kwakuxhumene ngempela...
kwakuyinethiwekhi yasendaweni; inethiwekhi yaseBelgium.

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Njengoba wazi, iBelgium izwe elincane. Kwakuyinethiwekhi encane.

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Kodwa ngokusebenzisa iSatanismu, baxhumene
nabanye abalandeli bakaSathane abaphezulu, futhi

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babehlala besebenzisa izingane njengempahla.

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Ngaxhashazwa kusukela ngineminyaka
eyisithupha, ngesikhathi ngathengiswa okokuqala.

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Ngibambezeleke, ngoba ngokuvamile izingane ezivela
emindenini yamaSatanisti ziyahlukunyezwa kusenesikhathi kakhulu.

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Ngakho-ke ngafakwa kunethiwekhi ngineminyaka
eyisithupha, futhi ngahlukunyezwa eBelgium.

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Noma ngabanye izikhulu ezazihlaba umxhwele ngobudlova obukhulu
nobuhlungu, futhi ezingenasizungu ekubulaweni kwezingane.

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Ngakho-ke empeleni akukho sizathu sokuthi ngasinda.

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Futhi-ke ngineminyaka
eyisishiyagalolunye... kule minyaka yokuqala, ngangihlupheka

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kaningi ngamadoda abebefundiswe kulesi simiso.

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Empeleni kwakuyisistimu yokushushisa. Lapho
baqala khona ukuhlanganiswa nentombazane

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encane eyayineminyaka ecishe ibe ngu-14 noma 15.

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Kungenzeka ukuthi batshelwe ukuthi bekudala. Lokho kwarekhodwa
kutheiphu. Lapho kwaqala khona ukucwasa ngokudlwengula.

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Bese beza kimi. Ngesikhathi uneminyaka eyisithupha noma
eyisikhombisa, akungabazeki ukuthi ungumntwana omncane kakhulu.

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Noma ubani okhona lapho ohlukumeza ingane encane
ngaleyo ndlela – noma ngabe ngimcele.

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Ngifundiswe ukuthi kufanele ngenze bazizwe bekhululekile.

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Kodwa noma kunjalo, akukho mibuzo yokuthi kwenziwe ubugebengu.

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Kodwa kwakuhlale kukhona amadoda abathi,
"Angikwazi ukwenza lokho. Angikwazi ukwenza lokho."

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Kodwa ngaleso sikhathi angizange ngiqaphele ukuthi laba bantu
babebanjwe kakhulu yimfundiso, nokuthi,

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njengoba bethi, kudingeka umuntu oyedwa ozokwenza noma
yini, njengoba bethi. Yilokho abahlala bekusho.

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Bengihlale ngizwa ukuthi abantu abangihlukumezayo
nabo babebethunziwe ebuncaneni babo, futhi

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babephinda lokhu ukuziphatha kusukela esikhundleni samandla.

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Ngale ndlela, bahlula imizwa yabo yokungabi namandla
nokungabi nethemba, ababezizwele ngenxa yokuhlukunyezwa kwabo.

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Ngalesi senzo esilula kakhulu, lapho bezizwa
benamandla. Futhi, kunjalo, iningi labaphilayo alibeki icala.

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Kodwa le ndlela yakhiwe ngendlela evumela noma ekhuthaza
abantu abazimisele ukuba babe abaphuli-mthetho ukuthi

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babelane ngaleli simfihlo esikhulu kakhulu sobu-paedophilia.

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Okokuqala, ukuze ube nabo bonke ephokotheni yakho. Futhi lokho
kuqhubeka kuze kube... Gareth: Ngabe usabona

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abanye balaba bantu abakuhlukumezile
ethelevishini noma ezincwadini zezindaba eBelgium?

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Anneke: Bheka. Akuzange kube seBelgium
kuphela. Bengingisisiwe ekuthengisweni kwabantu

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e-United States, eFrance, eSwitzerland, nase-Italy.

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Uyazi, ngineminyaka eyisishiyagalolunye,
ungathi nganginikwa umuntu osebenza kunethiwekhi

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yamazwe ngamazwe ongithathe waya e-United States.

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Lo muntu wayeyisaziwayo kakhulu esiteji somhlaba wonke.
Ngaleso sikhathi, ngabekwa ngaphansi kokulawulwa kwengqondo.

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Ngachitha unyaka lapho engangibiza ngokuthi 'isihlalo samandla':
kwakuyiqembu labantu abanamandla kakhulu, abalandeli bakaSathane,

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kuhlanganisa nabadumile, abezepolitiki nemindeni yobukhosi.

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Futhi vele uyabona laba bantu, futhi mina
ngisababona – nakuba iningi labahlaseli bami selishonile –

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ngoba babebalulekile kakhulu. Bakhona yonke indawo.

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Gareth: Lokho kumele kube okumangalisayo ngawe. Ukubona
lokho, wazi kahle ukuthi laba bantu bangobani ngempela.

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Kuzizwa kanjani ukubabona? Mhlawumbe
kuyimbuzo ehlanya, kodwa ngingacabanga 'intukuthelo'.

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Anneke: Yebo! Kwenza ngifune ukubiza
amagama abo. Engingakwazi ukukwenza.

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Lokho kucacile kakhulu kimi: uma ngenza lokho,
bengizofa. Umndeni wami ubulawa. Lona umlayezo engilwamukelile.

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Umndeni womuntu oyinhloko ongibhekisele
ububi—ngithole ukuthi banezinsizakalo zabo eziyimfihlo.

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Kubonakala sengathi sengike
ngabhekana nalokhu ngokwezinga elithile.

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Laba bonke abantu abavele empilweni
yami futhi abaqeqeshwe ngale ndlela.

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Ngangiqeqeshwe njengomhloli. Ngakho ngangikwazi ukukubona.

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Kodwa umlayezo wawucacile kakhulu;
ngendlela yabo, bangazisa ukuthi isongo sasihlala

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sithi: "Uma usho igama lomuntu lo, uyofa."

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Futhi ngikholelwa ukuthi abaningi abasindile njengami bazimisele
ukunikela ngezimpilo zabo ngenxa yalesi sizathu uma bekufanele.

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Kodwa kuhlala kufanele ulinganise ukuthi yini
ongayiveza nokuthi yini ongayivezi. Lokho kungicasula kakhulu.

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Kuphinde kungicasule kakhulu ukuthi abantu
abaningi bakholelwa kule ndaba yokuthi laba bangabantu

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abamangalisayo abadinga ukuxhaswa ukuze babonakale.

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Gareth: Impela, ngiyakhumbula; ngisemncane
e-United Kingdom. Kwakukhona inethiwekhi

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enkulu yabaphangi bezingane eyatholakala eBelgium.

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Yenza izihloko ezibalulekile lapha e-United Kingdom.

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Ingabe lokho kwakuhlotshaniswa nenethiwekhi
obuvele ube yingxenye yayo? Noma kwakuyicala

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nje lokuthi abantu basondela kancane eqinisweni?

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Ngabe sizobanika abanye abaphangi bezingane
abangabalulekile kangako ukuze banciphise ukoma

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kwabo kancane ngenkathi sivikela amagama amakhulu?

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Anneke: Yilokho ngempela okwenzeka ekugcineni. Lokho
okukhuluma ngakho kwaziwa ngokuthi "icala likaDutroux".

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Ngithanda ukukubonisa incwadi yami . Kuyo ngibhala
ngodaba lukaDutroux, oluxhumene kakhulu nendaba yempilo yami.

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Empeleni kuyinethiwekhi efanayo. Kwavela obala
ngo-1996 lapho kwatholakala izidumbu zezingane.

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Izingane ezimbili zasindiswa ejele elingaphansi komhlaba.

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Umphangi waleli nethiwekhi
yaseBelgium wayeseqalile ukuthumba izingane.

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Lokho kwakungajwayelekile kakhulu; wabanjwa.

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Izingane zafa ngaphansi kokunakekelwa kwakhe –
ngoba iningi labaphathi bezingane bangena

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emindenini, bathathe izingane baze bazibuyisele ekhaya.

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Bengingizifundela yimina, ngakho kwakulula kakhulu.
Akekho abazali ababengangifuna. Abazali bami babebandakanyekile,

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njengabaningi babazali bezingane ezazisetshenziswa.

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Icala likaDutroux lalizovusa konke. UMarc Dutroux
wayengumphathi wabantu abathengiswayo ngocansi.

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Futhi kwenzekeni ngaleso sikhathi:
kwaba yimpikiswano enkulu emhlabeni wonke.

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Bakakhuluma ngenethiwekhi, abantu emhlabeni wonke
bakakhuluma ngayo, futhi okwenzekile kwakumangalisayo.

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Kulesi... Kwathatha iminyaka
eyisishiyagalombili ukuthi icala lifike enkantolo.

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Inani elikhulu labaphilayo abasindile
lavela njengofakazi futhi banikela ubufakazi.

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Lokho kwahlolwa, kwaphinde kwahlolwa
kabusha ngabaphoyisa abahle kakhulu nabacwaningi.

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Bathole ukufana, izinto abasindile
ababeyokwazi uma bengakaze babe khona lapho.

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Angizange ngibe eBelgium ngaleso sikhathi. Bengingazi
lutho ngodaba lukaDutroux ngaphambi kokuba ijaji yokuqala,

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umuntu wokuqala ophethe leli cala, esesuswe esikhundleni.

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Ngenxa yokucwasa okubekwe icala,
okwabangela imibhikisho yabamhlophe ngaleso sikhathi.

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Bonke abantu baseBelgium babe
sendudumalo ngoba izingane zazibulawa.

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Wonke umuntu wayegqoke umhlophe ukuze
kugcizelelwe ukungabi nasono kwezingane.

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Kodwa eminyakeni eyisishiyagalombili kamuva, kwaba
nomzamo omkhulu kakhulu kakhulu kakhulu wokususa lolu lwazi.

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Zonke izitatimende zabafakazi zasuswa; zasuswa kuleli cala.

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Abantu abangu-30 ababenobufakazi
obuthile mayelana nenethiwekhi enkulu bashona.

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Izimo eziningi ezibalulekile zacinezelwa icala.

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Ifayela entsha yakhiwa ukumela icala elihlukile.

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Lapho ukuhlolwa kwaqala ngo-2004, kwakunguMarc Dutroux kuphela.

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Kwabe sekukhona omunye umuntu owayesiseduze
kakhulu, kodwa owayephakeme kancane kunethiwekhi.

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Lowo kwakunguMichel Nihoul. Ngibhale
kabanzi ngoMichel Nihoul ezinkumbulweni zami.

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Ngoba kwaqala ngesikhathi ngangikhona lapho.
Ngangikhona lapho kusukela ngo-1969 kuya ku-1974.

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Ngifunde kabanzi ngoMichel Nihoul. Wayengumsekeli,
umxhumanisi kuyo yonke into. Ekugcineni, waphuma kulo bhizinisi.

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Futhi uMarc Dutroux wagwetshwa ngempela
ukuba avinjwe ejele impilo yakhe yonke.

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Ngesinye isikhathi, waphunyuka ngisho ejele.

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Manje bazama ukumbamba nokumkhulula. Kuyamangalisa ngempela.

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Kufana namaSatanisti abathi: Singakwenza. Singanqoba.

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Futhi... (phazamiswe) Gareth: Yebo, cishe kuyahlambalaza.

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Anneke: Ngempela. Ukuhlekisa! Ngicabanga ukuthi
kuwumkhuba omkhulu kwamaSatanisti ukuhlekisa izisulu zabo.

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Ukugxeka wonke umuntu o... Izisulu nazo
zagxekwa futhi zahlekwa, kanjalo nabasindile. Futhi

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kunjalo, lokhu kuyaqhubeka kuze kube namuhla.

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Gareth: Impela. Kuyindlela yabo yokusebenzisa
amandla amaningi kuwe nokukwenza uzizwe ungabi namandla.

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Um... ngoba wabhala ngolwazi lwakho, ukhuluma ngalokho
okwenzekile kuwe... Ingabe-ke uxhumana nabantu abake babe

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nezipiliyoni ezifanayo kwamanye amazwe,
ezinhlanganweni, noma, isibonelo, e-United

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Kingdom noma eJalimane noma kwezinye izindawo?

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Anneke: Yebo, ngiyabonga. Lokho ngempela engikwenza usuku lonke.

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Ngisebenza nabanye abasindile. Ngo-2016, indaba
yami yasakazeka njengomlilo wamahlathi ku-inthanethi.

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Ngibe sobala emphakathini kusukela ngo-2013.
Futhi ngaxhumana nabanye abaningi kakhulu abaphile.

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Ngisebenza nabo. Sengithole ukwelashwa iminyaka
engaphezu kwengu-30, okuqhubeka kuze kube namuhla.

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Kodwa ngenxa yezimo nendlela engaba nethuba
lokugxila ngempela ekululameni, ngabelana ngalokho.

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Nakuba kunjalo, ngikhuluma nabantu emhlabeni
wonke. Empeleni, kakhulu emhlabeni waseNtshonalanga.

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Ngisebenza kakhulu nabantu abavela eNgilandi
nakwiCommonwealth; futhi, kunjalo, abavela eYurophu, cishe bonke

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eNtshonalanga Yurophu, futhi, kunjalo, abavela e-United States.

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Le nethiwekhi inokufana yonke indawo.

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Kukhona umehluko omncane phakathi
kwezingane ezivela emindenini yezempi.

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Kodwa ukuphathwa kwengqondo kufana yonke indawo.
Ukuqeqeshwa kokulawula ingqondo kufana yonke indawo.

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Inhloso yomntwana ngamunye iyahluka kuye ngesikhundla sakhe.

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Kuncike emindenini yabo. Kodwa kunezifaniso
ezinkulu endleleni inethiwekhi esebenza ngayo.

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Ngifundile ukuthi amanethiwekhi amancane,
afana nelaseBelgium, axhumana omunye nomunye.

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Ngezinkantolo eziyimfihlo noma yini enye ekhona
edolobheni labo, banezinye izikhulu ezinamandla ezingakwazi

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ukugcina ukulawula noma ukuvimba uphenyo uma kudingeka.

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Kukhona ijaji, kukhona ummeli, kukhona umuntu...
umholi wamaphoyisa noma okuthile okufana nalokho.

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Kukhona odokotela. Futhi bavame ukuxhumana
nabantu abanamandla kakhulu emhlabeni ngabantwana babo.

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Ngakho-ke bavikela izikhundla zabo noma idumela labo, noma
bakhuphuka esitebhisini, noma yini abayifunayo ngempela!

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Noma yini abayifisayo, noma yini izifiso zabo.

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Ungakwazi ngempela ukufeza okuthile uma
uyingxenye yale nethiwekhi yomhlaba wonke. Futhi lokho

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kwenzeka ngenxa yokulimala kwezingane eziningi.

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Gareth: Ngiyakuqonda ukuthi unomhlangano wokufundisa ozayo obizwa
ngokuthi 'Ukudlulisa Amandla'. Ungasitshela kancane ngalokho?

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Anneke: Yebo, ngiyabonga. Yilokho okubhaliwe kuwebhusayithi yami.

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Ngisebenze eziboshweni zaseNew York iminyaka eyishumi.

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Ngisungule inhlangano engenzi nzuzo
ukuze ngilethe i-yoga eziboshweni.

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Futhi kusukela ekuqaleni, ngaqala
ukufundisa i-yoga. Lokho kwakungeminyaka yama-2000.

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Ngihlale ngisebenzisa i-yoga njengendlela
yokwelapha, kodwa ngabona kunzima kakhulu

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ukuyisebenzisa ngenxa yokuthi yayifundiswa kanjani.

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Ngakho-ke bengihlale ngicabanga ukuthi: uma
ufuna ukuba umhlinzeki, uthisha noma

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umelaphi, kukhona indlela yokuphatha abantu engasizi.

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Futhi ngihlangabezane kakhulu naleli zimo engasizi, noma ngabe
ivela kochwepheshe bokwelapha, othisha be-yoga noma kwabanye.

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Ngakho-ke ngahamba phakathi kwalezi zinhlelo ejele.

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Bengisebenza ekutholeni indlela engivumela ukuthi
ngibe khona ngempela, ezingeni elibanzi. Ngoba sonke

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simenywa ukuba sibe yingxenye yalesi sakhiwo samandla.

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Ngakho-ke sonke sigqugquzelwa
ukuthola iziqu bese sithatha indima yethu.

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Futhi uma sidinga lesi simo nesikhundla, singafihla ubuhlungu
bethu siqu bese sizibeka ngaphezulu kwabantu esisebenza nabo.

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Futhi, vele, abeluleki abaningi benza okufanayo.

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Ngokuhlangenwe nakho kwami, lapho
ugxila kakhulu, lokhu kwenzeka kakhulu.

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Ngakho-ke empeleni kuncike kumhlinzeki ngamunye
ukuthi azibheke, abheke kwengqondo yokuthi

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bangene kanjani ngokungazi kwabo ohlelweni lwamandla.

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Unikela kanjani amandla akho kubani, futhi ubheka phansi bani?

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Futhi uma ungacabanga ukuthi empeleni kukhuluma ngokulimala
kwengqondo okungaxazululiwe; ukuthi lapho ubheka umuntu phezulu

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futhi unikeza amandla akho kuye, umubeka
esitebhisini, khona-ke ubheka umuntu onamandla owawumazi

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ebuncaneni bakho onazo naye izinkinga ezingaxazululiwe.

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Futhi uma ubuka umuntu ngenhla umahlula, ukhipha imibono emibi.

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Futhi lokho kuhlobene nezinye
izingxenye zakho ongakazamukeli ngempela.

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Ngakho-ke lokho ngempela kuyimfuneko
yangaphambilini nomodeli ophelele. Le workshop eku-inthanethi

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izoqhubeka amasonto ayi-10 kuwo wonke amakilasi.

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Futhi ngicabanga ukuthi kuyinto... Ngiyenzile.
Empeleni ngihambe emhlabeni wonke futhi ngafundisa

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abanye abelaphi abathembele kakhulu kulolu lwazi.

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Lokhu kungena ngokujulile ekusebenzisaneni kwazo nasekuthi
zihlobene kanjani nokulimala kwengqondo lapho ubuza lo mbuzo.

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Isiphetho Gareth: Ngiyabonga kakhulu. Ngiyabonga
kakhulu ngokuba nize nisibone! Bekumnandi kakhulu

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ukukhuluma nawe, noma udaba luyesabekayo kangaka.

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Ukukhuluma nawe ngakho... Uyaveza futhi
usize abanye abantu abasemweni ofanayo.

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Kusazizwa kukhuthaza ngendlela ethile. Uyazi engikushoyo?

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Ngiyethemba abantu ekhaya abacabangi ukuthi ngikhuluma izinto
ezingasho lutho, kodwa kusazwakala kuyakhuthaza

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ukukhuluma nawe ngoba wena... Useke wabhekana
nezinto ezimbi kangaka, kodwa manje usuyiguqula isimo.

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Njengoba uthi mayelana nesemina yakho,
ushintsha amandla, futhi lokho kuyamangalisa!

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Anneke: Yebo, ngiyabonga.