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Barka da zuwa, Mista Wolski.

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Na gode da gayyata daga KlaTV.

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Eh, tabbas. Muna gudanar da wannan hira a rana
mai matuƙar tunawa, zagayowar ranar 9 ga Nuwamba.

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Yanzu daidai shekaru 35 suka cika tun fa
faɗuwar Katangar Berlin a shekarar 1989.

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Kai ne marubucin littattafai da dama masu matuƙar ban sha'awa
kan wannan batu, waɗanda za a iya samu a shafin yanar gizonka.

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Kuma kafin mu fara, bari mu fara
gabatar da ku ga masu kallo namu.

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Michael Wolski an haife shi a Saxony a
shekarar 1952 kuma ya girma a Berlin na Gabas.

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Shi ne uban yara uku.

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A shekarar 1970, bayan kammala karatun
sakandare, ya sami digiri a fannin tattalin

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arziki, inda ya kware a kasuwancin ƙasashen waje.

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Tun daga shekarar 1974, Mista Wolski ya yi aiki a
kasuwancin ƙasashen waje a Jamhuriyar Dimokraɗiyyar Jamus.

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Daga 1986 zuwa 1990, shi ne jami'in hulɗa na kasuwancin
ƙasashen waje na Jamhuriyar Dimokraɗiyyar Jamus a ofishin wata

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kamfanin Amurka a Cibiyar Kasuwanci ta Duniya a Berlin na Gabas.

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A watan Disamba na shekarar 1989, ya ɗauki aikin kafa
kamfanin tallace-tallace a Berlin na Gabas a madadin ƙungiyar.

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An sake soke wannan umarni a watan Janairu 1990.

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A farkon shekarar 1991, an mayar da Mista Wolski zuwa Moscow.

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A can, shi ne wanda ya kafa kuma shugaban ofishin
wakilcin ƙungiyar a Tarayyar Soviet, inda ya shaida

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rushewar Tarayyar Soviet da sauyin da ya faru a Rasha.

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A shekarar 1998, ya koma Berlin kuma ya yi aiki a
matsayin mai ba da shawara ga kamfanonin Rasha.

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Daga 2006 zuwa 2012, shi ne wanda ya kafa kuma
daraktan Ƙungiyar Kasuwanci ta Jamus-Bosniya a Sarajevo.

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Michael Wolski ya yi ritaya tun daga shekarar 2014.

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Shi ne marubucin littattafai biyar
game da faduwar Katangar Berlin.

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A cikin tunaninmu da rahotannin kafofin watsa labarai, faduwar
Katangar Berlin a shekarar 1989 kullum tana bayyana a

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matsayin juyin juya hali na lumana, sakamakon rashin
gamsuwa a tsakanin al'ummar Jamhuriyar Dimokraɗiyyar Jamus.

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Mutane da yawa suna tunanin zaman lafiya da zanga-zanga.

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Kuma a cikin littafinka mai taken 1989 Faduwar Katangar Berlin,
wani bita bayan shekaru 35, kai, a matsayin shaida ta

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zamani, ka bayyana faduwar Katangar a matsayin wani
lamari da aka tsara shi sosai kuma aka aiwatar da shi.

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Me ya sa ka yi tunanin haka?

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Eh, kamar yadda na ambata a baya a cikin CV dina, na yi aiki a
ofishin wakilcin wata kamfanin Amurka a Gabashin Berlin

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daga 1986 zuwa 1990, inda na taimaka wajen gina
harkokin kasuwancin kamfanin a Jamhuriyar Dimokraɗiyyar Jamus.

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Kuma lokacin da Katangar Berlin ta fadi a watan Nuwamba
1989, shugaban kamfanin Switzerland da ke kula da ofishin ya

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zo a watan Disamba ya ce, Mike, kana da wani aikin musamman.

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Za mu kafa kamfani reshe don
tallace-tallace a Jamhuriyar Dimokraɗiyyar Jamus, kamar

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yadda muka yi a Poland, Czechiya da Hungary.

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Kuma aikinka shi ne ka fara wannan ginshiƙi, kamar yadda ake
faɗa, ka kuma yi shirye-shiryen da suka dace, kamar

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tuntuɓar lauya mai ba da shawara da lauya, yanke
shawara kan dukiyar da kuma yawan mutanen da za su shiga.

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Kuma yanzu saura 'yan kwanaki kaɗan kafin Kirsimeti.

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Na fara wannan, sannan na so in gudanar da
tattaunawa da mutanen da suka dace da ke da alhakin

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kowane mataki na aikin a farkon watan Janairu.

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Sai kuma a ranar 9 ga Janairu, 1990, an kira ana cewa
a dakatar da komai. Ba za mu kafa kamfani reshe ba.

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Za a canja kasuwancinmu zuwa kamfanin reshe na Jamus.

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Akwai babban kamfani a Jamhuriyar Tarayyar Jamus, a Neuss.

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Kuma hakan ya ba ni mamaki. Na tambayi
tambaya, eh, me ya sa ake dakatar da shi?

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Sa'an nan shugaban ya gaya mini, eh, mun samu
umarni daga Amurka, ba za a sake samun GDR ba.

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Wannan ya faru ne a ranar 9 ga Janairu, 1990.

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Kuma idan muka koma baya cikin tarihi, ba a taɓa yin taro ba har
sai 13 ga Fabrairu 1990, lokacin da haɗin gwiwar ƙasashe

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huɗu da ministocin harkokin wajen Jamus biyu suka haɗu
suka yanke shawarar fara tattaunawa kan sake haɗa Jamus.

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Don haka hakan na nufin cewa manyan
shugabanni sun riga sun san sakamakon tun da farko.

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Abin ban sha'awa, ko kafin ranar 13 ga Fabrairu ta zo, an yi
kiran na biyu inda aka gaya mini cewa dole ne a

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kammala komai kafin 30 ga Yuni 1990, wato haɗa
harkokin GDR cikin kamfanin reshe na Jamus ta Yamma.

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Eh, sannan a watan Mayu muka gano cewa
za a kafa haɗin kuɗi a ranar 1 ga Yuli.

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Kuma duk wanda har yanzu ke magana game da
haɗari, ina ganin yana da matuƙar rashin basira.

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Amma hakan yana haifar da tambaya:
wa ne a zahiri ya so a fadi bangon?

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To, lokacin da nake a Moscow, na yi
magana da mutane da yawa masu ilimi sosai.

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Misali, tsofaffin mambobin KGB da aka
kore bayan rushewar tsarin kwaminisanci.

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Don haka Tarayyar Soviet ta rushe, ikon mallakar
kasuwancin waje ya rushe, kuma kowace haɗin gona ta samu

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damar gudanar da harkokin fitarwa da shigo da kaya.

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Kuma haka ya faru cewa a cikin waɗannan sassan kasuwancin
ƙasashen waje na injunan noma, inda yanzu sai na tafi

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gare su maimakon zuwa kamfanin kasuwancin ƙasashen waje na
Moscow, akwai mutane da ke magana da Jamusanci cikin sauƙi.

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Sai kuma, to, harshen Rashan da Turanci na ba su da
ƙwarewa sosai, sai suka tambaye ni, daga ina kake?

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Kuma da Michael Wolski a kan katin kasuwanci, ba a iya ganinsa
da sauƙi kamar Fritz Müller ko wani abu makamancin haka ba.

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Kuma da na ce haka daga GDR, fuskar sa ta yi haske:

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Ni ma na kasance a Jamhuriyar Dimokraɗiyyar Jamus na tsawon
shekaru biyar. Na iya magana da Jamusanci ba tare da wata matsala

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ba, kuma na san cewa ba shi cikin sojoji, domin jami'an soja suna
kasancewa a Jamhuriyar Dimokraɗiyyar Jamus na tsawon

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shekaru uku kacal. Kuma waɗanda ke cikin sauran
rundunonin soja suna kasancewa a can ɗan lokaci kaɗan fiye.

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Sannan aka yi wasu tattaunawa masu ban sha'awa, a lokacin da suka
gaya mini abubuwa da yawa game da Jamhuriyar

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Dimokraɗiyyar Jamus (GDR) da ban sani ba
game da tsarin shugabanci da dangantakar iko.

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To, a lokacin na kan karanta sosai, littattafai na 'yan
siyasa na Soviet, jakaduna, jami'an leƙen asiri da sauransu.

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Kuma a hankali hoto ya fara bayyana cewa a zahiri wannan
wani lamari ne da aka ɓoye a bayan garkuwar hayaki, kuma

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wannan garkuwar hayaki ake kira Juyin Juya Halin Zaman Lafiya.

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Abin sha'awa, a farkon shekarar 2015, an
wallafa mujallu uku da suka haskaka batun.

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Na farko shi ne cewa a ranar 2 ga Nuwamba 2014, wani
labari ya bayyana a Der Spiegel yana cewa Gorbachev

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da Shevardnadze sun so a fadi bangon Berlin da wuri.

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Su biyun sun tafi ganin Erich, wanda yake Berlin domin taro...

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Yaushe hakan ya faru?

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Wannan a shekarar 1987 ne. A ranar 28 ko 29 ga Mayu 1987, sun
ziyarci Erich Honecker suka gaya masa cewa bangon ba ya dace

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da hoton Turai mai haɗin kai da Gorbachev ya gina ba, kuma
bai dace da sassara makamai ba, kuma ya kamata ya rushe bangon.

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Sai Erich ya tashi a kan tebur, a ce, ya ce a'a.

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Wannan abin ya kasance matuƙar rashin kunya, domin Erich ma
ya san cewa ba za a kawo tankuna ba, kamar yadda aka yi a

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Prague a shekarar 1968, idan ba ka yi abin da Moscow ke so ba.

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Sai su biyun suka tafi.

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Abin ban sha'awa, bayan kwanaki 14 Reagan ya kasance a Berlin
ta Yamma kuma ya yi jawabi a gefen yamma na Kofar Brandenburg.

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Sannan kuma, kamar yadda za ka gani a fili a cikin hoton,
akwai sanannen furucin Mista Gorbachev: "Ku rushe wannan bango!"

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Don haka bai ce Honecker ba, sai dai Gorbachev.

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Don haka ya san wanda ke da alhakin.

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Kuma saboda hakan bai faru ba, an gudanar da
wani aikin ɓoye na Soviet a shekarar 1989.

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Kuma an bayyana wannan a cikin wani littafi mai suna Operation
Lutsch, wanda aka buga a ƙarshen 2014 ko farkon 2015, wanda wani

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jami'in leƙen asiri na ɓoye na hukumar leƙen asirin soja ta
Jamhuriyar Dimokraɗiyyar Jamus ya rubuta,

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wanda ya bayyana yadda bangon Berlin ya faɗi da
kuma irin shirye-shiryen da aka yi tun a gaba.

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Kuma abu na uku shi ne waɗannan abubuwan da suka faru a Hungary,
da rushewar katangar iyaka a shekarar 1989, inda aka gudanar da

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wannan taro, wannan biki na picnic, inda kusan 'yan
ƙasar Jamhuriyar Dimokraɗiyyar Jamus 700 suka yi amfani da

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damar suka yi tafiya ta Austriya zuwa Jamhuriyar Tarayya.

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Mai ban sha'awa. Shin kuna da wasu ƙarin
misalai na abubuwan da suka faru inda kuke jin

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kamar abin da ya faru ya fito ne daga rubutun fim?

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Tabbas, har yanzu akwai wasu abubuwa kaɗan.

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Idan ka kalli 9 ga Nuwamba yanzu, yadda aka
tsara ranar, yadda ta gudana, duk yana cikin hotuna

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da muka saba gani, amma da wani fassarar daban.

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Na ambaci wannan a cikin littafin ma, cewa, misali, abin da za mu
iya gani daga baya, lokacin da Schabowski ya karanta rubutunsa,

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shi ne cewa wani abu ya ɓace daga cikin wannan rubutun,
amma Egon Krenz ya ƙara shi, cewa akwai wani lokacin takunkumi.

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Shin mu saurari wannan na ɗan lokaci?

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...mun yanke shawarar a yau mu gabatar da wata doka wadda za ta
ba kowane ɗan ƙasar Jamhuriyar Dimokraɗiyyar

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Jamus damar barin ƙasar ta wurin tashoshin
ketare iyaka na Jamhuriyar Dimokraɗiyyar Jamus.

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Domin sashen yada labarai na ma'aikatar, Majalisar
Ministoci ta yanke shawarar cewa wannan tsarin wucin gadi zai

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fara aiki har sai Majalisar Jama'a ta kafa dokar da ta dace.

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Kuma wannan rubutun da ya karanta yana da sanarwar takura.

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Kuma za a sanar da hakan ne kawai a
rediyo da karfe biyar na safiyar gobe.

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Kuma an ɗaga wannan ƙuntatawa, don haka idan akwai tsawon sigar,
sai ya zauna ya bincika ya duba, ya ce cewa a wani ɓangare

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ya ji cewa dole ne irin wannan abu ya wanzu, amma bai samu ba.

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Wannan ya haifar da gaggawar zuwa wuraren ketare iyaka.

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Kuma wannan ma aikin leken asirin
soja na Tarayyar Soviet ne ya shirya.

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Yanzu ga tambayar da yawancin 'yan ƙasar GDR suka yi wa
kansu a wancan lokacin. Me ya sa ba a harba bindigogi ba?

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Eh, wannan shi ne maki na gaba.

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Don haka, a farkon shekarar 1989, an
yi musayar wuta mai halaka a kan iyaka.

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Sai matashin Chris Geffroy aka harbe aka
kashe shi a Berlin, wanda lallai ya zama babbar

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masifa ga manufofin Shevardnadze da Gorbachev.

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Duk da haka, tunda iyakar yammacin Jamhuriyar Dimokraɗiyyar Jamus
(GDR) tana ƙarƙashin ikon Yarjejeniyar Warsaw, a watan Afrilu

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sojojin iyaka na GDR, amma bisa ga shawarar
Yarjejeniyar Warsaw, sun sanar da cewa ba za

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a sake amfani da makamai ba a wannan iyaka.

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Wannan ya faru ne a ranar 12 ga Afrilu.

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Wannan yana nufin cewa daga wannan lokaci, masu
gadin iyaka sun kasance a bayyane suna aiki da

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bindigogin submachine, amma ba tare da harsashi ba.

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Kuma jami'ai kadai ne ke da harsashi
na makaman hidimarsu na kashin kai.

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Wannan yana nufin cewa, tun daga wannan lokaci, ya
riga ya bayyana cewa wannan tsarin iyaka zai ƙare.

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Tabbas, ba a san hakan ba; sirri ne matuƙar girma.

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Domin a lokacin tuni an yi gudu zuwa kan iyaka.

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Eh, amma ba sojojin GDR kadai ba ne.

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Mutane ma sun yi mamakin inda duk sojojin Rasha suke,
waɗanda a da suke ko'ina a Jamhuriyar Dimokraɗiyyar Jamus.

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Eh, kuma an tsara shi tun da wuri
kafin wannan taron na 9 ga Nuwamba.

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Don haka, 7 ga Nuwamba ita ce ranar hutu ta
siyasa mafi muhimmanci a Tarayyar Soviet,

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Babban Juyin Juya Halin Socialist na Oktoba.

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A wancan lokacin watan Oktoba ne saboda suna da kalanda daban.

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Kuma waɗannan bukukuwan koyaushe suna ɗaukar
kwanaki biyu, don haka ranar 7 da 8 ga Nuwamba

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ranakun hutu ne a Tarayyar Soviet, hutu biyu.

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Kuma a wancan lokacin, an ware sojojin Soviet masauki.

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A cikin Jamhuriyar Dimokraɗiyyar Jamus, an ba su izinin fita ne
kawai a cikin ƙungiyoyi; ba a ba su izinin

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fita su kaɗai ba, sannan aka kulle waɗannan
sojojin a sansanin soja har zuwa 13 ga Nuwamba.

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Kuma akwai wani dalili na hakan.

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Kowace shekara, tsakanin sojojin
Soviet 300 zuwa 400 ne suka tsere.

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Da yawa sun so su tafi gabas, suna so su
koma gida, kuma wasu suna so su tafi yamma.

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Kuma tun daga ranar 3 ko 4 ga Agusta 1989, lokacin da wani
jami'in tsaron iyaka na Jamus ta Gabas aka harbe aka kashe shi

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ta hannun wani soja na Soviet da ke tserewa, wato yana barin
soja, a kan iyakar yamma, akwai duk dalilan da za a daure su.

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Domin idan an buɗe iyakar, sojojin Soviet za su
iya gauraya da taron jama'a, suna ɗauke da

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makamai, kuma za su iya haddasa zubar jini mai yawa.

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Tabbas, akwai wasu 'yan maki da dama ma.

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Mafi girman wakilin Soviet, wakilin siyasa a
Jamhuriyar Dimokraɗiyyar Jamus, shi ne jakada.

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Kuma hakan ma na iya zama sanadin tura
sojojin Soviet don kare iyakar ƙasa.

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Kamar yadda a shekarar 1953, tsohon Babban Kwamishina a
Jamhuriyar Dimokraɗiyyar Jamus (GDR), Semjonow, ya kuma umarci

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sojojin Soviet su yi amfani da makamai a ranar 17 ga Yuni.

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Ba a yi hakan a Moscow ba, amma a Berlin.

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Kuma don kawar da duk wata haɗari, saboda an san cewa babban
kwamandan sojojin Soviet a nan Jamhuriyar Dimokraɗiyyar

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Jamus (GDR) mutum ne, a ce, mai wahalar tantancewa, an ba
jakadan Soviet maganin barci ko kuma shi kansa ya sha ɗaya.

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A kowane hali, bai nuna amsa ba a daren nan.

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Kuma hakan na nufin cewa mutumin da shi
kaɗai zai iya bayar da umarnin bai nan.

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Eh, da shugabanci, wato Honecker da sauransu?

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To, da dare, lokacin da aka gano... Har yanzu akwai
wani abu daban, har yanzu taron Kwamitin Tsakiya yana nan.

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Taron Kwamitin Tsakiya, wanda ake gudanarwa
a daidai lokacin jawabin Schabowski, an

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tsara ya ƙare da misalin karfe shida na yamma.

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Amma a can, mutanen da a fili aka umarce su daga hukumar
leken asirin soja ta Tarayyar Soviet ko hukumar leken asirin

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soja ta Jamhuriyar Dimokraɗiyyar Jamus sun tsawaita taron.

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Don haka ka ce ba za ka iya rabuwa da
kowannensu ba, kana da matsaloli da yawa.

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Don haka suka bar taron ya ci gaba har zuwa karfe 8:40 na dare.

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Wannan shi ne daidai lokacin da Schabowski ya ce zai
fara aiki nan take, kuma mutane suka fara kwarara

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zuwa wurin ketare iyaka, musamman Bornholmer Strasse.

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Kuma sai aka sanar da hakan a talabijin, da farko a talabijin
na Gabashin Jamus, sannan a talabijin na Yammacin Jamus.

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Kuma a nan suka zauna a Kwamitin Tsakiya,
kamar dai suna cikin ɗakin warewa, a ce.

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A wancan lokacin babu wayoyin hannu, don haka babu wanda
zai iya yin wasa da ihu ya ce, "Ai, me ya faru yanzu?"

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A'a, a'a. Kuma sun gano shi ne
kawai da misalin karfe goma na dare.

169
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Ma'aikatar Tsaron Jamhuriyar Dimokraɗiyyar
Jamus ta kasance a Strausberg, ba a Berlin ba.

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Don haka suka tuka mota zuwa can, kuma bayan karfe
8:40 na dare suka isa Strausberg da misalin karfe 10

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na dare, kuma a lokacin ne labarin ya fara yaduwa.

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Amma 'yan Soviet sun shiga cikin wannan, don haka aka ƙi ra'ayoyin
yiwuwar tura rundunonin sojojin bindiga na farko masu mota.

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Mai ban sha'awa. Michael

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Kuma idan tambayoyi suka taso yanzu, amma akwai masu juyin
juya hali na lumana, tabbas suna nan, domin an shirya su.

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Don haka wannan ya fito ne daga sashen leken asirin soja na
Soviet, ba daga Stasi ko KGB ba, har ma daga hukumomin leken

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asirin Yamma, don mutane su fito kan tituna,
su yi zanga-zanga, su sanya kyandirori a

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tagoginsu da sauransu, don haka hakan tuni ya wanzu.

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Daga karshe, an buƙace shi daga baya don ba da
labarin masu juyin-juya-hali masu zaman lafiya.

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Kuma ba zai yiwu mutane uku kawai su tsaya a wurin
suna cewa, "Ga su nan, su ne masu juyin juya hali na

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lumana uku," domin hakan ba zai yi aiki yadda ya kamata ba.

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Don haka dole ne ya kasance motsi na taron jama'a,
kuma a faɗin yankuna, ba kawai a Leipzig da Berlin ba, har

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ma a wasu biranen da waɗannan zanga-zangar suka faru.

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Mai ban sha'awa. Don haka, don taƙaita abin da muka faɗa zuwa
yanzu, domin muna ganin abu ɗaya yana faruwa a

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yau, inda dubban mutane ke fita tituna a ranar
Litinin don yin zanga-zanga, kamar yadda aka yi a baya.

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Yanzu kuna cewa shugabannin Soviet sun tsara faduwar
bangon Berlin kuma sun yi amfani da waɗannan zanga-zangar.

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A ƙarshe, ka nuna cewa hukumomin leƙen
asirin Yamma ma sun taka rawa mai muhimmanci.

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Don haka, shin na fahimta daidai cewa Gabas da Yamma, waɗanda a
hukumance suke makiya, yanzu suna aiki tare a kan wani shiri?

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Ina ganin haka ne. Za ka iya ganin cewa wannan
igiya ta gama gari ta bi tarihi tun daga 1917, 18.

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Yanzu akwai littattafai marasa adadi da ke
tabbatar da cewa wannan haɗin gwiwa ya wanzu.

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Yawancinsa ya kasance a fannin tattalin arziki, amma wani
ɓangarensa kuma ya kasance a fannin siyasa, don haka tabbas akwai

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shawarwari na yau da kullum tsakanin hidimomin jihohin tarayya.

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Mai ban sha'awa. To, akwai gadaje
tsakanin gungun gabas da na yamma?

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Zan ce eh. To, na yi aiki a kan gada
irin wannan. Wannan a harkar kasuwanci ne.

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GDR ta yi matuƙar sha'awar jawo waɗannan kamfanonin Amurka.

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Lokacin da waɗannan kamfanonin Amurka suka iso a shekarar
1985, tabbas sun san wani abu, domin sun zo a lokaci guda kuma

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suna son ɗaukar 'yan ƙasar Gabashin Jamus a matsayin ma'aikata.

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Za su iya kawo mutanensu da kansu a lokacin, za su iya neman
mutane a Berlin ta Yamma, kuma za su iya amfani da 'yan

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kasuwa na ƙasashen waje da Cibiyar Kasuwancin Duniya ta shirya.

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Kuma su ne suka so na ƙarshe.

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Amma ba su nan, don haka sai aka kaddamar da
bincike, domin waɗannan mutane suna buƙatar fasfo na Yamma.

201
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Don haka sai suka bi duk tsarin GDR, a
ce, don su zama jami'an tafiye-tafiye.

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Sai aka tuntuɓe ni, kuma na yi sha'awar aikin, don haka na ce eh.

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Sannan na fara wannan aikin a
farkon shekarar 1986, a watan Afrilu.

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Amma akwai wasu gada da dama, idan muka tuna.

205
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Don haka Angela Merkel ta fito ne daga dangin ministoci.

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Kuma fasto, Mista Kassner, yana da
cibiyar horo ga masanan addini a Templin.

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Masana ilimin addini daga Turai ta Yamma ma
sukan kasance baƙi na yau da kullum a can.

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Kuma watakila sun riga sun sa idonsu kan Angela.

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Wa ya sani. Amma dai alama akwai
wani irin shiri da ake aiwatarwa a nan.

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To, wannan ba shiri ne da aka tsara jiya
ba, ko? To, tun yaushe ake aiki a kai?

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Ina ganin haka ne. Ba ma buƙatar komawa
ga Karl Marx cikin cikakken bayani a nan.

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Amma ma'aikatan duk ƙasashe, ku haɗu! Yana
aiki ne kawai idan masu jari na duk ƙasashe sun

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haɗu, domin ma'aikata suna dogaro da masu jari.

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Amma sai Juyin Juya Halin Oktoba na 1917, kuma tun daga lokacin
an wallafa littattafai da dama, musamman daga Amurka,

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waɗanda ke bayyana dalla-dalla alaƙar dake tsakanin
Wall Street da Juyin Bolshevik, misali na Anthony Sutton.

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Haka kuma ya bayyana yadda Trotsky da Lenin, ɗaya daga cikin su
an ba shi kuɗi daga masu kafa Babban Bankin Tarayya na

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Amurka, ɗayan kuma daga hukumar leƙen asirin Jamus ta
Abwehr, suka tafi Petrograd don tayar da juyin juya hali a can.

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Wasu kuwa saboda sun ga cewa ƙasar ta yi balaga don canji, wato
bankunan Amurka, waɗanda suke son su ɗauki ƙasar a ƙarƙashin ikon

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su, kamar yadda ake faɗa, da Lenin saboda ana buƙatar sa don
tabbatar da dakatar da wuta, wanda daga baya

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ya zama yarjejeniyar zaman lafiya, da kuma
don 'yantar da Jamus daga gaban fada na biyu.

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Don haka, hakan na nufin an kammala Yarjejeniyar
Brest-Litovsk kuma Jamus ta janye daga wannan haɗin

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gwiwar abokan haɗin gwiwa – eh, Rasha ce ta janye.

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A wancan lokacin, har yanzu Daular Rasha
ce; An kafa Tarayyar Soviet ne kawai a Disamba

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1922, amma wannan mataki ne na wucin gadi.

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Kuma a wancan lokacin, Amurkawa sun nada wani mutum
wanda ya riga ya san Lenin kuma ya kulla yarjejeniyoyi

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na farko da shi. Wannan mutumin shi ne Armand Hammer.

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Kuma har zuwa mutuwarsa a shekarar 1990, ɗan
gajeren lokaci kafin rasuwarsa, shi ne mai haɗin

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gwiwa tsakanin babban birnin Amurka da Politburo.

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Kuma duk waɗannan manyan ayyukan shigo da kaya na Tarayyar
Soviet, waɗanda suka haɗa da masana'antu, tashoshin samar da wutar

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lantarki ta ruwa, da kuma yarjejeniyar ƙasa da haya a lokacin
Yaƙin Duniya na Biyu, an kammala su ƙarƙashin kulawarsa, a ce.

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Oh, kuma a gefe guda, Armand Hammer ya
kasance mai biliyoyin daloli a tsawon shekaru.

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Mahaifinsa shi ne wanda ya kafa Jam'iyyar Kwaminis, kuma shi
ne ɗaya daga cikin masu kafa Jam'iyyar Kwaminis ta Amurka.

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Kuma, tabbas, shi ma ya karɓi Order of Lenin.

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A bayyane yake cewa akwai alaƙa tsakanin
waɗannan gundumomi biyu, dole ne a ce.

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Amma yanzu, sake, domin na yi imani yana da matuƙar
muhimmanci ga abin da ke faruwa a yau, mu koma baya mu duba.

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Ka ce cewa FED, wato Federal Reserve, manyan masu iko na
kuɗi a duniyar Yamma, sun fara Juyin Juya Halin Oktoba.

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Eh.

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To, lallai sun kasance da muradun kuɗi masu bayyananne a can?

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To, tabbas. Burin shi ne rinjayar Rasha.

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Amma ba za ka iya yin hakan kai tsaye ba.

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Don haka suka yi ƙoƙarin hakan, sai aka samu wannan yakin
basasa, wanda ya haɗa sojojin Amurka, Birtaniya da Japan.

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Amma ƙasar ta yi girma sosai.

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Kuma shi ne abin da suka yi ƙoƙarin yi a can, wato kafa wata
gwamnati da ke dogaro da su, amma wadda ba a san ta a duniya ba.

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Babu wanda zai taɓa tunanin cewa waɗannan 'yan
komunis na Rasha a ƙarshe an ba su kuɗi ne daga Yamma a

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matakin farawa, sannan daga baya suke ƙarƙashin ikon su.

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Wannan ma shi ne dalilin da ya sa mutane da yawa ba za su
iya fahimtar cewa Tarayyar Soviet ta rushe tsarin kanta ba.

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Don haka faduwar Katangar Berlin kusan ta kasance
sassauta riƙon da ake yi kan ƙasashen sosiyalis na Turai.

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Sai janyewar sojojin Soviet, wadda ta daɗe har zuwa
1994, sannan kuma rushewar Tarayyar Soviet kanta.

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Kuma lokacin da Gorbachev ya hau ofis, ya bayyana
wannan cikin kyau ta hanyar perestroika da glasnost.

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Perestroika na nufin sake tsarawa, kuma glasnost na nufin
gaskiya. Kuma wannan ne daidai abin da yake son sake tsarawa.

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Kuma abin da muka fuskanta daga baya shi ne cewa daga
wannan ne ajin 'yan oligarƙiya ya bayyana, kuma wannan

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Politburo da jam'iyya, da dukkan tsarinsu, kwatsam suka ɓace.

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Kuma gwagwarmayar ajin da muka yi a
lokacin ta canza zuwa gwagwarmayar yanayi.

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To, hakan ya kai mu har zuwa yau, ina tsammani.

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Eh, eh.

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Wannan shi ne tambayata ta gaba.

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Ka bayyana yadda, a duk tsawon tarihin Rasha ko Tarayyar
Soviet, koyaushe manyan 'yan oligarƙi na kuɗi ke da tasiri.

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To, kuma a yau?

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Michael Wolski:] To, ina ganin har yanzu suna
kan aiki, amma ba a gan su ta wannan hanya ba.

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Kuma abin da ake yi mana bam-bam da shi – har zuwa 1990,
jam'iyyar ajin ma'aikata ce, gwagwarmayar ajin,

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ma'aikatan ƙasashe duka ku haɗu, duk irin waɗannan kalmomin
banza, waɗanda yanzu aka maye gurbinsu da wasu kalmomin banza.

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Kuma hakan yana haifar da tambaya kan yadda wannan ya faru.

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Me ya sa wannan canji ya faru?

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Kuma a nan dole ne mu koma ga ginin
bangarori, ciki har da Katangar Berlin.

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Domin a cikin shekarun 1960, an samu wannan canji,
amma a bayan fage na tsohon tsarin jam'iyyar

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kwaminisanci, ana haɓaka sabon dabaru da ka'ida da sauransu.

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Bari in bayyana shi ta wannan hanya:

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An umarci ginin Katanga ta Soviets a shekarar 1960, don haka dole
ne a yi shirye-shirye don tabbatar da cewa Jamhuriyar

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Dimokraɗiyyar Jamus (GDR), da tattalin
arzikinta na tsari, za ta iya samun duk abin da take

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buƙata, ciki har da kayan gini da ma'aikata.

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Sai suka gina bango.

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00:30:10,460 --> 00:30:19,346
Dalilin shi ne cewa abokan haɗin Turai ba su so
su amince da tayin Soviet na canza yanayin

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siyasa a Berlin ta Yamma, wato Ultimatum na Berlin.

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Sai aka gina bango, sai ya bayyana cewa hakan a
aikace yana kai Jamhuriyar Dimokraɗiyyar Jamus zuwa

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bakin rashin iya mulki, wato rushewar tattalin arziki.

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Ba a yi nufin hakan ba, babu wanda zai iya hasashen hakan, amma
hakan ya tabbatar da cewa a Jamhuriyar Dimokraɗiyyar Jamus

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(GDR), ita ce kaɗai ƙasar masana'antu a Bloc na Gabas, tsarin
tattalin arzikin shirye-shirye na jam'iyya bai yi aiki ba.

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Tabbas kun taɓa jin labarin Sashen Daidaita Kasuwanci tare
da shugabansa, tsohon shugaban Alexander Schalck-Golodkowski.

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Wannan labari ya fara ne a shekarar 1962, lokacin da
Schalck-Golodkowski ya zama sakataren farko na shugabancin

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gundumar SED kan harkokin kasuwancin ƙasashen waje, kuma yanzu
yana ƙarƙashin matsin lamba daga kusan kamfanonin kasuwancin

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ƙasashen waje 30 da suka wanzu – wasu ba a
ba su izinin yin hakan a Jamhuriyar

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Dimokraɗiyyar Jamus ba – don rage burin fitar da kaya.

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Bayan komai, Jamhuriyar Dimokraɗiyyar Jamus ƙasa ce mai
masana'antu, kuma ta sayi kayan albarkatu da

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kayayyakin rabin kammala domin ta sarrafa su sannan ta sayar
da su a duk faɗin duniya, musamman ga Tarayyar Jamus.

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Amma saboda wannan tsarin tattalin arziki da aka tsara ya yi
tsauri sosai, ba a iya sayen kananan abubuwa kamar gyare-gyare,

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sassan maye da kayan haɗi, sai inji suka tsaya ba a amfani da su.

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Sa'an nan kamfanonin kasuwancin waje suka zo
suka ce, eh, ba za mu iya fitarwa ba saboda kamfani

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XY ba zai iya isarwa ba saboda babu sassan maye.

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00:32:12,256 --> 00:32:21,579
Kuma a shekarun 1962 da 1963, Schalck ya riga ya
tattauna da kwamandan MFS ɗinsa yadda za a iya

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canza wannan, amma an ƙi wannan ra'ayi a Moscow.

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A shekarar 1964, halin ya ci gaba da tabarbarewa, an kifar da
Khrushchev, kuma a shekarar 1965 Moscow ta ba da izini a gudanar

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da wannan tsarin a daidai lokaci da tattalin arzikin
da aka tsara, a matsayin kamfanin kasuwancin waje

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na masu zaman kansu a Jamhuriyar Dimokraɗiyyar Jamus.

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00:32:48,261 --> 00:32:56,820
Sa'an nan akwai takardar kafa a shekarar 1966, sannan aka
kafa wannan fannin daidaita kasuwanci ta hanyar ƙa'ida.

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00:32:56,820 --> 00:33:02,953
Don haka ba a wallafa shi a cikin jaridar
hukuma ba; hakan zai zama akasin abin da ake nufi.

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Yammacin Duniya za ta kasance tana bugun cinyoyinta
na tsawon kwanaki, tana cewa Jamhuriyar Dimokraɗiyyar

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Jamus ta tabbatar cewa tsarin kwaminisanci ba ya aiki.

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Amma hakan ya sa Yamma ta fara samun bayanai tun daga 1968, ta
hannun wani janar na Stasi na Czech da ya yi defection, cewa an

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sanar a taron kaka na Yarjejeniyar Warsaw a
1966 cewa za a canza dukkan ka'idar socialism

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kuma za a ba Yamma damar girma cikin socialism.

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Abin ban sha'awa, a bara tsohon shugaban Ofishin Tarayya na
Kariya ga Kundin Tsarin Mulki ya tabbatar da hakan daidai.

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Shin mu saurari wannan?

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…ni lauya ne, ubabina zai kasance wani diktato ko mai son zama
diktato, kuma zai ce, "Mista Maaßen, ka yi tunani kan

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yadda za ka iya juya dimokradiyya mai 'yanci zuwa
gwamnatin mulkin danniya wadda take aiki yadda nake so."

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Sa'an nan zan kuma yi la'akari da irin hanyoyin da
za a iya amfani da su don raunana dukkan tsarin.

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Kuma ɗaya daga cikin hanyoyin sauya tsarin mulki zuwa haɗin
kai, inda kowa ya bi tsari ɗaya kuma kowa ke tunani a hanya

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ɗaya, shi ne firgita mutane da kuma sanya musu babban buri.

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00:34:32,669 --> 00:34:43,648
Kuma dole ne in ce, ra'ayin amfani da yanayi don raunana kundin
tsarin mulki ra'ayi ne mai wayo, duk wanda ya fito da shi.

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Na san cewa tun a cikin shekarun 1960, akwai
mutane a KGB da ke tunanin yadda za su bar

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Yammacin duniya ta koma tsarin zamantakewa.

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A wancan lokacin, an riga ana tattauna batun kare muhalli a KGB.
Tare da batutuwa kamar muhalli da yaki da wariyar launin fata, da

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sauransu, za ka iya shawo kan mutane su ce, mu ajiye
dimokuradiyya da mulkin doka gefe a yanzu, abin

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da ya fi muhimmanci shi ne yaki da wariyar
launin fata, abin da ya fi muhimmanci shi ne muhalli.

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Waɗannan su ne tunanin da KGB ta yi a shekarun 1960.

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00:35:16,836 --> 00:35:22,663
Amma dole ne in ce, da ka kawo
batun sauyin yanayi, ina taya ka murna.

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Gaskiya abin mamaki ne amfani da batun sauyin
yanayi a matsayin wata hanya don raunana

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jamhuriyar dimokuradiyya da tsarin kundin tsarin mulki.

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Eh, kuma hakan ya kai mu ga manufofin da
aka sa a Tarayyar Soviet a shekarar 1966.

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Manufar farko ita ce a bar Yamma ta girma.

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00:35:44,510 --> 00:35:49,570
Kuma burin na biyu shi ne samun kudi daga yanayi.

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Wannan ne abin da ya faru.

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00:35:51,536 --> 00:36:00,589
Don haka mataki na farko shi ne ba da shawara ga Kulab ɗin Rome a
shekarar 1967, wanda shi ne wanda ya kafa Kulab ɗin

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Rome, kamar yadda za a ce, kan yadda za a kafa shi da
kuma abubuwan da ya kamata ya mayar da hankali a kansu.

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Ya tashi zuwa Tarayyar Soviet a wancan
lokacin kuma ya yi dogon tattaunawa.

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Kuma daga baya, lokacin da aka kafa Kulab ɗin
Rome, janar-janar biyu na KGB sun kasance cikakkun

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mambobi na Kulab ɗin Rome har zuwa shekarar 1992.

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00:36:30,536 --> 00:36:34,590
Ba zan iya faɗin abin da ya faru
daga baya ba, amma an rubuta shi.

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Wani abu kuma shi ne an kafa wani cibiyar haɗin gwiwa kusa da
Vienna tare da Amurkawa domin magance rushewar

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00:36:44,528 --> 00:36:54,272
Tarayyar Soviet, inda aka horar da jami'an siyasa tun
daga 1982 zuwa gaba don zamanin bayan perestroika.

331
00:36:54,272 --> 00:37:06,520
Wannan yana nufin akwai sunaye kamar Chubais, Wechselberg, Arwen
da sauransu, waɗanda aka horar da su a can,

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sannan a ƙarshen perestroika suka shiga cikin
sayar da dukiyar jama'a, wato dukiyar gwamnati.

333
00:37:17,206 --> 00:37:23,040
Kuma haka ne suka zama biliyoniyoyi
ko oligarchs da muke magana akansu.

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00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:29,920
A Amurka, ya ɗauki shekaru 200 kafin
waɗannan 'yan oligarƙiya su bayyana.

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00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:37,380
Kuma hakan ya faru shekaru uku zuwa biyar da suka
wuce, lokacin da waɗannan 'yan oligarƙiya suka taso.

336
00:37:37,380 --> 00:37:45,504
Kuma kowa ya yi matuƙar mamaki da yadda
waɗannan mutane suka yi arziki cikin sauri.

337
00:37:45,504 --> 00:37:47,328
Arziki ta wace hanya?

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Ta hanyar keɓancewa, saboda suna wurin tushe kuma za su
iya keɓance kamfanonin gwamnati da suka shafi wannan.

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Wannan ya kasance tsari mai ɗan rikitarwa.

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Littafin kuma yana bayyana wannan tsari dalla-dalla.

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Kuma 'yan oligarƙi daga Yamma, 'yan
oligarƙi na kuɗi, sun kuma shiga.

342
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Kuma sun riga sun zaɓi muhimman
sassa a masana'antar albarkatun kasa.

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00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:27,391
Kuma Khodorkovsky misali ne ɗaya, Abramovich kuma wani ne,
waɗanda suka karɓi rance daga Yamma, sun sami tabbacin rance tun

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daga 1988, sannan, lokacin da ake aiwatar da
sayar da dukiyoyin gwamnati, suka mallaki

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waɗannan kamfanonin a matsayin amintattu, a ce.

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00:38:39,140 --> 00:38:43,100
Tabbas, hakan bai bayyana ba. Amintacce, eh, ka ba shi ga wani.

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00:38:43,100 --> 00:38:47,083
Amma yana tsaye a gaba kuma kowa ya yi tunanin shi ne mai shi.

348
00:38:47,083 --> 00:38:56,458
Kuma Roman Abramovich na da miliyan ɗari – an kuma rubuta hakan a
cikin littafin. A Amurka, akwai wata ƙungiya mai

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suna Finken, wani irin sashen kula da ke bincika
laifukan kuɗi, kuma akwai wani dogon labari game da ita.

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Don haka ya karɓi rance na dala miliyan ɗari, sai ya
zuba kuɗin a kamfanin mai, wanda ya sayar shekaru

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goma ko goma sha biyu daga baya a kan dala biliyan 13.5.

352
00:39:20,490 --> 00:39:25,400
To, yanzu yana rayuwa ne da wannan kashi uku cikin ɗari, eh.

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00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:36,296
Wannan ya yi tsanani. Don haka, idan na fahimta daidai,
wani rarraba dukiyar ƙasa da ya yi matuƙar tsanani ne?

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00:39:36,296 --> 00:39:44,990
Eh, bayan juyin juya hali na farko, lokacin da aka
kwace duk cocin, manyan sarauta, manyan masu filaye,

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00:39:44,990 --> 00:39:49,320
'yan kasuwa da 'yan kasuwanci, wato kapitalistoci.

356
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:53,493
Da yawa an kashe su a cikin wannan
tsari, da yawa suka tsere zuwa Turai.

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00:39:53,493 --> 00:40:04,224
Kuma wannan shi ne kamfen na biyu na sake
rarrabawa, inda mutane suka yi arziki cikin kankanin lokaci.

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A wancan lokacin, a farkon shekarun 1920 a cikin
waɗancan lokutan rikici, an kusan mika komai ga gwamnati

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kuma ba a raba shi ga mutane ba, wato an sake raba shi.

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00:40:16,693 --> 00:40:23,900
Don haka, kuma yanzu abin da Mista Maaßen ya
ce game da yanayi, shi ne rabon sake na uku.

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00:40:23,900 --> 00:40:30,233
A yanzu, gwagwarmayar ajin ta zama gwagwarmayar yanayi.

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00:40:30,233 --> 00:40:39,896
Kuma idan a da wannan mutum, a ce, mai ra'ayin
kasuwanci ne, a yau shi ne maƙiyin masu ƙaryata sauyin

363
00:40:39,896 --> 00:40:45,566
yanayi, masu laifi ga yanayi, da duk masu cutar da yanayi.

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00:40:45,566 --> 00:40:56,131
Don haka wannan dukkanin akida ta kai ga matakin da muke da
harajin CO2 – duk batun kayayyakin halitta ma

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na cikin wannan, wato duk abin da halitta ne
ya fi tsada – amma kuma akwai takunkumin motsi.

366
00:41:05,513 --> 00:41:13,212
Yanzu muna iya ganin cewa ana rage
ƙungiyar VW, wato tana ƙanƙanta.

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00:41:13,212 --> 00:41:20,985
Kuma a ƙarshe, hakan na nufin cewa saboda ba ma son
sufuri na kashin kai saboda dalilan sauyin yanayi, duba

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00:41:20,985 --> 00:41:25,006
biranen mintuna 15, za ka iya yin komai a can da keke.

369
00:41:25,006 --> 00:41:30,433
Kuma idan kana son barin birnin mintuna
15, yanzu kana buƙatar izini a China.

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00:41:30,433 --> 00:41:32,780
In ba haka ba, ba za ka iya ketare katanga ba.

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00:41:32,780 --> 00:41:39,353
Don haka ƙungiyoyin da suka shirya wannan sun koma neman kuɗi.

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00:41:39,353 --> 00:41:41,251
Ana samun kudi daga iska mai zafi.

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00:41:41,251 --> 00:41:45,984
Kuma yanzu ina nufin Mista Maaßen.

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00:41:45,984 --> 00:41:57,840
Mai ban sha'awa. Don haka, a taƙaice, za
mu iya ambaton mai fara WEF ɗinmu mai kyau?

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00:41:57,840 --> 00:41:58,933
Eh.

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00:41:58,933 --> 00:42:00,773
Klaus Schwab.

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00:42:00,773 --> 00:42:05,280
Michael Wolski Eh, wannan ma abin sha'awa ne.

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00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:13,826
WEF, wato Taron Tattalin Arzikin Duniya, an kafa shi a shekarar
1972 da shi, kuma har yanzu yana nan a yau, kamar dutsen fosil.

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00:42:13,826 --> 00:42:19,180
Ba za ku mallaki komai ba kuma za ku
yi farin ciki; wannan shi ne burin.

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00:42:19,180 --> 00:42:22,320
Kuma hakan ya mayar da mu ga al'ummar jam'iyya.

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00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:32,967
To yanzu ana magana game da harajin CO2, sabbin tsarin dumama
– kashi 40% na mutane a Jamus suna da gidajensu, kuma ban

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sani ba nawa daga cikinsu za su iya sayen sabon tsarin dumama.

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00:42:38,750 --> 00:42:47,113
Sa'an nan shahararrun Black Rocks da kamfanoni makamancinsu
watakila za su tsaya su ce, to, mu za mu siya shi daga kadarorin

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00:42:47,113 --> 00:42:52,100
bankirapsi, daga kasuwar sayar da jinginar da ba a biya ba.

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00:42:52,100 --> 00:43:00,830
Eh, abin haskaka ne sosai, zan ce, yadda muka riga
mun zo nesa a cikin wannan tsarin na uku na yanzu.

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00:43:00,830 --> 00:43:01,490
Eh.

387
00:43:01,490 --> 00:43:09,189
Mai hira na KlaTV Yanzu mutum zai yi mamaki yadda
gaske tsarin zamantakewa ya mutu a shekarar 1989.

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00:43:09,189 --> 00:43:18,658
Amma a taƙaice, zai iya zama da matuƙar wahala a yi
tunanin cewa akwai wasu ƙarfafan ɓoye da ke aiki anan

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00:43:18,658 --> 00:43:24,003
waɗanda a fili suke aiki ne don cutar da jin daɗin mutane.

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00:43:24,003 --> 00:43:33,129
Kuma har zuwa yanzu, dabara ce mai matuƙar wayo, za a
iya cewa kusan haka, a zahiri kuwa tana ɗauke da komai.

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00:43:33,129 --> 00:43:38,336
Eh, watakila duk abin ana sarrafa
shi ne ta hanyar basirar wucin gadi.

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00:43:38,336 --> 00:43:48,063
Eh, a ƙarshen wannan hirar mai ban sha'awa sosai,
ina so in tambaya menene kuma za a iya yi yanzu?

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00:43:48,063 --> 00:44:01,204
To, za ka iya daidaita kanka ta hanyar samun cikakken bayani,
wato ba kawai ka samu abin tunani daga labaran yau da

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00:44:01,204 --> 00:44:14,240
kullum, MoMa da Netflix ba, har ma ta amfani da kafofin watsa
labarai na daban ko samun wahayi daga tushe irin wannan.

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00:44:14,240 --> 00:44:23,809
Ina da kusan hanyoyin haɗi 100 a cikin wannan littafi zuwa
shafukan yanar gizo inda za ka iya samun

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hanyoyin haɗi kan batutuwa iri-iri, tattara
sabbin ra'ayoyi sannan ka ci gaba da bincike.

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00:44:32,533 --> 00:44:40,309
Amma hakan na nufin yin motsa jiki, ba zama
a gaban talabijin da jakar cips a yamma ba.

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00:44:40,309 --> 00:44:45,060
Eh, ina ganin za mu ɗauki wannan a zuciya: mu
zama masu aiki. Na gode ƙwarai da gaske da hirar.

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00:44:45,060 --> 00:44:46,700
Na gode ma.

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Kuma daga baya za mu sake ganawa.

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00:44:48,930 --> 00:44:50,983
Eh, na gode.