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Ụbọchị nke ise nke ikpe na 12 Nọvemba
2024 butere ụfọdụ ihe ịtụnanya pụta ìhè.

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Ụbọchị ahụ jupụtara na nyocha nke onye isi ego
okenye si Ọfịs Ego Mpaghara dị na Karlsruhe.

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O kọwara ihe kpatara ya ji were
ime ihe n'okwu Ballweg n'afọ 2021.

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Dị ka nkwupụta ya si kwuo, Michael Ballweg bụ onye
ndị ọchịchị ụtụ isi amaghị ihe ọ bụla banyere ya ruo

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mgbe ahụ, bụ onye ezi omume ma na-adịghị apụta ìhè.

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Ma omume Ballweg gbasara ngosipụta maka ikike
bụ isi, udo, nnwere onwe na ikpe ziri ezi

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kpalitere mgbasa ozi ukwu ka ha malite ime ihe ozugbo.

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Dị ka onye ọrụ ụtụ isi si kwuo, ọ natara akụkọ site
n'aka mgbasa ozi ndị a gbasara o yikarịrị ka e mere mpụ.

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Onye ọrụ gọọmenti na onye ọrụ ibe ya malitere nyochaa
onwe ha wee hụ, n'etiti ihe ndị ọzọ, mmemme ọchị Jan

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Böhmermann na ZDF: "Onye Mmepụta Ahịa Corona nke Afọ".

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Mmemme a a na-ahụkarị jiri ọchị belatara mmegharị
eziokwu niile na ọrụ niile e mere iji chebe ikike bụ

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isi, na-akpọ ha "usoro azụmahịa" nke na-eji onwe ya uru.

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Weebụsaịtị Belltower nke Amadeu Antonio Foundation mechara kwuo:
"Querdenken" na ndị nọ n'òtù Michael Ballweg na-agbalị igosi onwe

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ha dị ka ndị na-alụ ọgụ na-enweghị atụmanya, na-eme ihe
niile ha nwere ike ime iji lụọ ọgụ megide ihe egwu a na-asị

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na ọ na-emetụta nnwere onwe na ọchịchị onye kwuo uche ya.

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Ma ndị ọkachamara n'ịkpa atụmatụ nzuzo
na-enweta ego, ma eleghị anya ọtụtụ n'ime ya.

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Ọ dị ka ụjọ, ịnakwere ihe ngwa ngwa na amaghị ihe bara ezigbo
uru maka ire T-shirts, hoodies na njem ụgbọ ala ndị ọzụzụ.

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Ndị a na olu ndị yiri ha si n'ọtụtụ mmadụ na otu
onye hapụrụ mmegharị echiche n'akụkụ yiri ka ha nwere

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mmetụta dịgide na nghọta na omume onye ọrụ ụtụ isi.

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O yikarịrị ka ọ bụghị naanị ya.

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Ihe ndị ọzọ gbasara nke a n'ogbako mkparịta ụka na-esote:

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Onye nchịkwa: Michael, ajụjụ mbụ bụ nke gị.

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Ònye bụ onye usoro azụmahịa ya mmegharị
echiche n'akụkụ bibiri site na ngosipụta na ọrụ ya?

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Michael Ballweg: Ee, ekwenyere m na
ọtụtụ ndị nwetara uru site na ọrịa nje ahụ.

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Ka anyị bido na mmalite kacha mbụ.

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N'ezie, ọ bụ ndị na-ahụ maka etiti ule nọ n'ala kacha ala.

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Mgbe ahụ, n'elu ndepụta ka ụlọ ọrụ ọgwụ nọ, sochiri ya
ụlọ ọrụ dijitalụ, mgbakọ dijitalụ na ego, ma e nwekwara

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ọtụtụ ndị ndọrọ ndọrọ ọchịchị jiri onwe ha baa ọgaranya.

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Ekwere m na anyị ekpuchiela ọtụtụ akụkụ, ebe
anyị wetara ọha mmadụ ìhè site na ngosipụta anyị.

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Ụkpụrụ ndị a na-anabataghị, ma n'ezie gụnyere
ọrụ ego na ahịa kwesịrị ime n'ime ókè

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mgbochi ikike ndị bụ isi ma ọ bụ n'ime ókè ahụike.

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Ebubo ahụ bụ na a na-ekwu na m kpọrọ ego n'ụzọ ezighi
ezi ma ọ bụ mee ihe na-ezighi ezi metụtara ụtụ isi.

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Ma ụnyaahụ, onye àmà si Ọfịs Ego Mpaghara kwesiri ikweta na
naanị m mepụtara ụdị azụmahịa gara nke ọma nke nwere ngosipụta.

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Mgbe ahụ, ọ ghaghị ịchị ntakịrị onwe ya, wee wepụ ya.

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O kwuru na o yikarịrị ka ọ gaghị
ede akwụkwọ ozi ahụ n'ụzọ ahụ taa.

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Onye nchịkwa: Ònye ka ụlọ mgbasa ozi anyị kacha elu na-eje ozi
mgbe ha na-ele okwu a n'ụzọ a ma na-akọ ya n'ụzọ a? Ha na-ekesa

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ụjọ gbasara ọrịa coronavirus ma na-akwado ụdị azụmahịa a?

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Michael Ballweg: Ee, anyị maara nke a taa, ma e nwekwara ozi dị
mkpa dị. Na Ịntanetị (ị nwere ike ịhụ), o yikarịrị

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ka ọ dịkwa na Kla.TV, otu ụlọ ọrụ mgbasa ozi si
jikọta na nnukwu ntọala, na otu e si enye ha ego ebe ahụ.

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A maara nke ọma na Bill Gates enyekwara
Der Spiegel ọtụtụ ego, dịka ọmụmaatụ.

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Taa ahụrụ m akụkọ na DIE ZEIT enwetala euro nde iri atọ
na isii site n'aka gọọmenti etiti n'ime afọ atọ gara aga.

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Nke a pụtara na ha adịghịzi ụlọ mgbasa ozi kwụụrụ onwe ha.

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Ma aghaghị m ikwu na ọrịa nje a n'ezie na-arụ ọrụ dị ka ngwa ngwa
na mgbasawanye maka anyị na maka mgbasa ozi ọzọ a na-ahụkarị, ya

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bụ unu. Ugbu a e nwere usoro abụọ a na-asọ mpi megide onwe ha.

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Usoro ochie, nke na-adabere nke ukwuu na nchịkwa
ozi, na usoro ọhụrụ, nke dabere na ụkpụrụ nnwere onwe.

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Ma ekwenyere m na ndị mmadụ
na-abawanye na-abanye n'ime usoro ọhụrụ.

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Nke a bụkwa ihe kpatara na nrụgide
ji na-akpali ndị mmadụ ka ha gbanwee.

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Ya mere, anyị kwesịrị ịkele n'eziokwu na
anyị nwere ike iso ya ma hụ usoro a niile.

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Anaghị m enwe iwe n'ihe a kpamkpam, ma mgbasa ozi ndị a ma ama
na-ememụ anyị mgbe niile, na-ekwu na ndị sonyere na ngosipụta,

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dịka ọmụmaatụ na Cannstatter Wasen, bụ ndị kwenyere na echiche
nzuzo niile, ma achọghị m imeghachi ihe niile e kwuru ebe ahụ.

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Ma nke ahụ mere ka ndị mmadụ banye n'ime
ụgbọala ha ma sị, ugbu a, n'ezie aga m na ngosipụta.

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Ka anyị hụ ihe ga-eme n'ime izu ole na ole na-abịa.

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Onye nchịkwa: Ya mere, ọrịa mba ụwa – ma
ọ bụ plandemic – nwekwara ụfọdụ uru ọma.

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Michael Ballweg: Nke a bụ nnukwu usoro mgbanwe.

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Anyị maara ihe dị na atụmatụ maka afọ
2030, ma ọ bụ ihe kwesịrị ịdị na atụmatụ.

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Ma ebumnuche ahụ doro anya, mana
omenala anyị nke ịghara isonye doro anya kwa.

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Onye nchịkwa: Daalụ nke ukwuu. Ajụjụ na-esote ga-aga ndị ọka iwu.

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Ị kwuru ya ugbu a: n'ebe ụfọdụ n'ime nnyocha onye
àmà, onye isi ụtụ isi gosiri na echiche ya banyere

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mmegharị echiche n'akụkụ ga-adị mkpa ka e nyochaa ya ọzọ.

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Kedu mmetụta nke a ga-enwe na ihe fọdụrụ n'usoro ahụ?

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Ọ̀ dị ụdị ntughari ọ bụla?

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Gregor Samimi: Ee, ụnyaahụ anyị nwere ohere ịjụ
ajụjụ onye ọrụ ụtụ isi, bụ onye, n'ikpeazụ, bụ onye ndu.

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Ya mere, n'echiche, ọ ruru ọkwa ikpeazụ n'usoro ụgwọ ya.

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Ya mere, anyị nwere ike ịtụ anya na nke a
ga-abụ onye ọrụ gọọmenti nwere ọmụma nke ukwuu.

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Anyị etinyela olileanya anyị na
ya, na ọ ga-enwe ike ịza ajụjụ anyị.

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N'ime ọnọdụ a, o doro anya kwa na Michael Ballweg, dịka ọmụmaatụ,
enwetaghị uru ọ bụla na 2020, kama o tufuru ihe dị ka €25,000.

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Ma otu afọ gachara, na 2021, ọnwụ ahụ ruru ihe dị ka euro 55,000.

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Ma nke ahụ bụ isi ahịrị nche anyị ji ebe a.

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Ya mere, anyị nyefere asambodo a dị ka ihe àmà
megidere iji gosi na Michael enwetaghị uru ọ bụla, ya

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mere ọ gaghị akwụ ụtụ isi na ha, kama ọ nara naanị mfu.

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Ma n'ihe a metụtara, ekwenyere m na onye ọrụ ibe m
Ralf Ludwig na e nwetara mmeri dị oke mkpa ụnyaahụ.

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Onye nchịkwa: Ò nwere okwu ọzọ ọ bụla?

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Ralf Ludwig: Ikekwe ntakịrị kpọmkwem
gbasara ajụjụ ma usoro mgbanwe doro anya.

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Ekwere m na nke ahụ mere ụnyaahụ n'ọkwa abụọ, na
onye ọrụ gọọmenti kacha elu si Ọfịs Ego Mpaghara.

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N'eziokwu, anyị nwere onye àmà maara ihe nke
ukwuu, onye kọwara ihe niile nke ọma ma n'eziokwu.

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Ma e kpalitere ya na 2021 mgbe e mere mkpesa megide Michael
Ballweg, ma e nwere amụma na Michael Ballweg na-agba azụmahịa

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na Querdenken ma nwee ebumnuche inweta uru site na azụmahịa a.

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Ma onye a, ma ọ bụ karịa, ọ bụghị onye ọrụ ụlọ ahịa, kama ọ
nọ n'ọkwa njikwa, gụrụla ihe achọrọ n'iwu nke ọma nke ukwuu.

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Onye ọka iwu enweghị ike ime nke ka mma karịa ka o mere.

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N'eziokwu, a kọrọ ya ihu na nke a. Iji zaa ajụjụ ahụ,
gịnị ma ọ bụrụ na Michael Ballweg ga-akwụ ụtụ isi n'ihu ọ

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bụla n'ego ọ na-enweta, ya bụ, ime nkwụnye ụtụ isi n'ihu?

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Nke ahụ bụ n'ozuzu ajụjụ ọ na-ajụ onwe ya.

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Ma n'ọkwa ọzọ, ma n'ọkwa n'eziokwu, ya bụ n'ọkwa iwu, o tinyeela
ya nke ọma n'okpuru ya, ma n'ọkwa n'eziokwu

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o tụrụ n'uche na ọfịs m na ndị ọchịchị ụtụ
isi na Baden-Württemberg ga-arụ ọrụ nke ọma.

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Ma site na ozi ha nwere, ha ga-emekwa mkpebi ziri ezi.

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Ma nke ahụ emeghị.

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Ma nke ahụ pụtara na, n'echiche, ọ dara ada dịka onye na-achịkwa
ego, n'ihi na ọ na-ekwu mgbe niile, "Echere m na," ya mere o

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chere na Michael Ballweg enwetala ego nke ọ n'eziokwu enwetaghị.

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Ma ekwenyere m na nke ahụ
n'eziokwu gbanwere ihe n'ime ya ụnyaahụ.

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Ma o nwekwara ike ịbụ na ọ dọtara ya n'uche ụnyaahụ n'oge a
na-ajụ onye àmà, na Michael Ballweg n'eziokwu mere ihe o mere

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n'ihi ịhụnanya ma ọ bụ n'ịkwado ikike ndị bụ isi, na e nweghị
mgbe e mere ya iji nweta ego ma ọ bụ iji mepụta usoro azụmahịa,

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kama echiche dị n'azụ ya bụ naanị ichebe ikike ndị bụ isi.

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Echere m na nke ahụ mere ụnyaahụ.

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Echere m na ọ ga-arụ ọrụ nke ọma nke ukwuu n'ime Witness.

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Ana m enwe mmasị ịhụ ihe ga-eme ugbu a, ma anyị ga-ahụ ndị
ọrụ ndị ọchịchị ụtụ isi ọzọ, ma ihe ọ bụla nwere ike ịgbanwe.

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Onye nchịkwa: Anyị nwere ike ikwu, dịka nkwubi okwu nke taa, na
Michael Ballweg na mmegharị echiche n'akụkụ niile

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eweghachila aha ha n'ihe gbasara ebumnuche ha ime ka onwe
ha baa ọgaranya ma ọ bụ ime aghụghọ, dabere na eziokwu?

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Ralf Ludwig: Gịnị ka mgbake pụtara?

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Ya mere, o yikarịrị ka e nwere ike ime mgbake n'ihu
ụlọikpe steeti, n'ihu ụlọikpe nkịtị; ee, o kwere omume.

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Ma ekwenyere m na usoro mgbake n'ọha
mmadụ malitere kemgbe ọtụtụ afọ gara aga.

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Ma ekwenyere m na ọtụtụ mmadụ, ọbụna ndị gosiri
onwe ha dị ka ndị megidere echiche n'akụkụ na

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Michael Ballweg, ugbu a ghọtara ihe mere n'oge gara aga.

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N'ikpeazụ, ọtụtụ n'ime mbipụta anyị na-egosi ugbu a na ihe
Michael Ballweg ji pụọ n'okporo ámá maka ya, na ihe

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mmegharị Querdenken ji pụọ n'okporo ámá maka ya,
n'eziokwu na-apụta eziokwu, ọ bụghịkwa echiche aghụghọ.

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Ma site n'echiche ahụ, echere m na ọ
ga-abụ naanị ihe na-eme ka ọ dịkwuo mma.

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Ma eleghị anya, Michael nwere ike ikwu ntakịrị
ihe ọzọ gbasara ihe na-akpali ya n'usoro a,

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ihe ọ na-atụ anya iru site na ya, ka e si kwuo.

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Ozi ndị ọzọ gbasara ma a ga-ahapụ ya n'enweghị
mmejọ n'ikpe mpụ ugbu a ma ọ bụ na ọ gaghị ahapụ ya.

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Michael Ballweg: Ee, n'eziokwu, ekwenyere m na
ọtụtụ ndị nọ na ngosipụta ahụ ekweghị n'okwu nzuzu a.

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Ikekwe ụfọdụ ndị mmadụ enweela mmetụta na obi
adịghị ha jụụ mgbe e mere ụdị ebubo dị otú ahụ.

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E nwere ozi dị ukwuu na-awakpo anyị mgbe
niile, ya mere ọ dị mfe ka anyị daa n'aka ozi ụgha.

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Karịsịa, n'ezie, mgbe mgbasa ozi
ndị bụ isi na-ekesa ha n'ọtụtụ ebe.

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Ya mere ajụjụ bụ, anyị agwọtala ugbu a?

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Ọfọn, anaghị m ekwere na ndị nọ na ngosipụta ahụ, nke m
hụrụ na ajụjụ ọnụ ndị àmà m nyochara mgbe m nọ n'ụlọ mkpọrọ.

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Enwetara m ajụjụ ọnụ niile, ma ọtụtụ n'ime ha
kwuru na ha nyere ego ha n'enweghị ọnọdụ ọ bụla, ma

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ha agaghị echegbu onwe ha gbasara ihe ị ga-eme ya.

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Nke ahụ pụtara na ọ bụghị otú ahụ ka o mere.

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Ugbu a, ana m agafe n'oge a – m na-akpọ ya oge mmụọ
ihe ọmụma – anyị nwere ike ịhụ ugbu a etu oke ime ihe

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n'enweghị usoro na mgbagwoju anya dị n'aka ndị ọchịchị.

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Nke a bụ ihe mere m ji na-eduga usoro a ugbu a.

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Ugbu a, anyị na-elekwasị anya n'ịhazi ọnọdụ ahụ,
ma na-eji oge a akpọkwa uche na ihe merenụ ndị

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ọzọ nke ndị a na-emegbu n'oge ọrịa coronavirus.

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N'ezie, abụghị m naanị onye nọ ebe ahụ.

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Ihe nke abụọ bụ, n'ezie, na anyị na-amụta ugbu a site
na ajụjụ ọnụ ndị àmà otú ọrụ ọfịs si arụ ọrụ

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n'enweghị usoro doro anya na otú nhazi jikọrọ ọnụ si pere mpe.

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N'ikpeazụ, okwu ndị ahụ na-adị mgbe niile:
"M mere naanị ihe ọrụ m chọrọ ka m mee."

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Enweghị ụkpụrụ njikwa abụọ, ma ọ
bụ ọ bụ ọfịs onye na-achụ aja ọha.

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Ya mere, ịtụgharị ibu ahụ, nke bụ ihe ọzọ
ọ bụghị ihe mere n'oge ọrịa coronavirus.

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Onye ọ bụla gara n'ihu na ya, ma n'ikpeazụ, ọ dịghị onye
chọrọ ikweta na o sonyere, nke bụkwa ihe mere ikpe a ji

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bụrụ mmalite dị mkpa maka ịnabata ọrịa nje coronavirus.

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Ị bụ akụkụ dị mkpa nke a, ya mere obi dị m ụtọ na ị nọ
ebe a taa, na ị mere mgbalị ị bịa kwado anyị ebe ahụ.

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Ma ekwenyere m na ọ dịkwa mkpa ka anyị nwee
mmetụta siri ike nke njikọ n'ime mmegharị ọzọ.

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Anyị nwere nnukwu nkwado n'afọ 2020, mgbe gọọmenti malitere iweta
nkwụsị, mesịa bịa nrụgide ego, mmechi akaụntụ,

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ịkpọpụ akaụntụ, ma ugbu a, echere m na mgbe afọ anọ
gachara, ọtụtụ ìhè na-abịa anyị site na United States kwa.

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Peter Hahne kọwara otú o si hụ ume ndị mmadụ nọ
ebe ahụ, na otú ọtụtụ mmadụ si nọ n'mmụọ olileanya.

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Enwere m olileanya na mmụọ olileanya a ga-enweta ume ọzọ na
Germany ma na ndị mmadụ ga-enyere aka ịkpụzi mgbanwe ahụ.

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Onye nchịkwa: Ee, ọ dị mma, daalụ nke
ukwuu, anyị ga-aga n'ihu na-eso ọnọdụ ahụ.

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Michael Ballweg: Ee, n'ezie. Daalụ. Onye
nchịkwa: Daalụ nke ukwuu nye onye ọ bụla.