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Inkcazo yanamhlanje ethi "Look Over the
Fence" igxile kumbhali wale ncwadi: "Exhabitus".

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Mnu. Icon, kuyamangalisa ukuba nawe nathi namhlanje
kwaye enkosi ngokusazisa ngeenkxalabo ezingundoqo

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zomsebenzi wakho wobungcali oneemphepha ezingama-200.

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Ndivuya, enkosi ngeli thuba.

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Kwiphepha lesihlanu leencwadi yakho, kucacile ukuba ugqibile
izifundo ezimangalisayo: umzekelo, kwi-quantum physics,

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iinkonzo zonqulo, umthetho wamazwe ngamazwe, umthetho wecawa,
uqoqosho, iisayensi zentlalo, ukuthengisa nokunye okuninzi.

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Ukongeza, ukhankanya ukuba ngelixa ubhala incwadi
yakho, ufumene iziqinisekiso ezibaluleke nangakumbi,

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esingenakukuxoxa ngazo apha ngenxa yokunqongophala kwexesha.

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Ekugqibeleni, ingxoxo yanamhlanje imalunga
nokuphinda kusungulwe inkundla yomthetho

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elahlekileyo. Loo nto iyenza ibe nemincili kakhulu.

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Ngoku sithetha ngenkundla yomthetho eyayikho eSwitzerland kwixesha
elidala, eyayisebenza ngokungqongqo kwaye ingathathi cala

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kwaphela, kwaye yayibunjwe ngamalungu avela ebantwini ngokwabo.

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Nangona kunjalo, olu hlobo lwenkundla alukabikho ixesha elide.

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Kwincwadi yakho ethi Exhabitus, unika yonke ubungqina
obufunekayo kunye nesiseko esisemthethweni

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sokubuyisela olu lwabiwo-lwabiwo lomthetho esiluphulukene nalo.

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– Ingaba ndikuqondile oko kakuhle? Ewe, kunjalo.

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Ngokungqongqo, nangona kunjalo, incoko yethu sele igxile
kuyilo lokuqala nophuhliso olusebenzisekayo lwento oyigxilileyo.

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Kwisibhengezo senu samva nje seendaba kwi-Kla.TV, nibhala, kwaye
ndicaphula: "Emva kwesigaba esinzulu kakhulu sokulungiselela,

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ngoku sikulungele ukunikezela ngeprojekthi ye-'IG
Volkstribunal' eluntwini ngomhla woku-1 kuNovemba 2024."

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Singoobani – kwaye ungayichaza njani
eyona nkxalabo yakho ngamazwi akho?

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WIR imele i-NGO esandul' ukusekwa, okanye umbutho
ongengowurhulumente, i-"Interessengemeinschaft

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Volkstribunal" (Iqela Elinomdla leNkundla Yabantu).

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Itrayibhinali yabantu, njengoko injalo,
yenye yezona ziko zindala kulawulo lobulungisa.

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Oku kuthetha ukuba itriybhiyali ivela
ebantwini kwaye ayinakulawulwa ngabantu

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abanomdla kurhulumente okanye kwiinkampani.

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Kumthetho wamaRoma, oontirhobini babengilizwi
labantu, ababenelungelo lokuchitha izigqibo

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ezithile ukuze balawule isigaba esilawulayo.

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Noko ke, isakhono sokwenza izigqibo ezizimeleyo siye
sacutshungulwa kancinci kancinci yipolitiki kule minyaka

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ingamashumi idlulileyo, kwaye ngenxa yoko, ngoku akusekho
luphononongo lwezomthetho okanye ulawulo

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lweenkundla olunokusikhusela kwizicwangciso
ezikhohlakeleyo zezopolitiki namaziko karhulumente.

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Ingaba bekukho naziphi na iinkcazelo
zoluntu ngesi senzo sisothukileyo?

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Ewe, kunjalo. Iinkundla ezincinci, ezazibizwa
njengeenkundla zejuri, zavalwa ngenxa yokungabi nangeniso kwaye

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ngokuqinisekileyo azisayi kuphinda zivulwe ngababusi.

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Oku kukhokelele kwinkqubo ezimeleyo yokukhusela nokuphumeza
iimfuno zezopolitiko nezeenkampani, kwaye abemi namhlanje abanayo

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indlela esemthethweni yokuzikhusela kuhlaselo, kuquka ukunyhashwa
kobunyulu bomzimba wabo – umzekelo, ngokugonywa ngekhowutshazi.

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Ukugwenyiswa kobulungisa kunye nokungahoywa ngokucwangcisiweyo
kwamalungelo oluntu sele kuqatshelisiwe kwiimeko

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ezahlukeneyo nakwiinkqubo zophando, kwaye
kwaziswa eluntwini kumajelo eendaba afana ne-Kla.TV.

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Namhlanje, sibona ulwaphulo-mthetho oluninzi lwenzeka phambi
kwamehlo ethu, kwaye okwangoku sinokwenza kuphela njengababukeli

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kwaye – okona kulunge ngakumbi –
njengabaxhasi ngemali, ukuze singabi ngamaxhoba

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okuzikhethela okugqithisileyo kwenkundla namagosa.

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Iminyaka emine edlulileyo iyibonakalise le nto ngokucacileyo.

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Urhwaphilizo, uxinezelelo, ukubekwa iliso kunye nokuxhatshazwa
zifikelele kwinqanaba elisemthethweni

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eliqhubeka nokuqina, zikhohlisa kwaye zixhatshazela
abantu ngamalungelo abo asisiseko. – Bubudenge.

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Kungoko kuyinto yamaphupha nje ukucinga ukuba umhlanguli
othile onamandla uza kuvela ngequbuliso aze alungise yonke into.

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Ukuze kuphinde kumiselwe iqela elizimeleyo,
kwasekwa i-"IG Volkstribunal" – "Interessengemeinschaft

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Volkstribunal" (Iqela leMidla leNkundla yaBantu).

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Ingaba le NGO intsha sele
inezihloko okanye iinjongo ezicacisiweyo?

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Ewe. Kufuneka siphande ngokuzimeleyo imiba emininzi
engakhange ihlolwe kule minyaka ingamashumi ambalwa idlulileyo.

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Uphando oluzimeleyo aluzange luthathwe
ngqalelo, kungasathethwa ke ngokuthi luthathwe nzulu.

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Ngoko ke kufuneka sigxile kwiulwaphilelo olukhulu
olufuna uvavanyo oluvela ngaphandle size silulwe.

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Izifundo zamva nje ngembali ye-coronavirus, i-geoengineering,
i-5G kunye nokuthotywa koluntu abanakuhlolwa

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ngabasemagunyeni abakolu hlelo, abangamalungu kwezi
zenzo zolwaphulo-mthetho kwaye bade bazuze kuzo.

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Ewe, kuyavakala oko. Zikhona na iziseko
zomthetho okanye iindlela ezinokusetyenziswa ngale meko?

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Ewe. Ngenxa yomgaqo-siseko wethu wesizwe, sisakwazi ukusebenzisa
ezinye izibonelelo eSwitzerland ezingasetyenziswayo ngoku.

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Kunika umdla. Ngoko ke, njenge "IG Volkstribunal", simi kunye
phantsi kwezona migaqo ziphezulu zokuziphatha nokunyaniseka kwaye

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siphanda ukuba ingaba ulawulo lwaseSwitzerland lusasebenzela abemi
balo okanye lunjengokunyamekela kuphela iimfuno zeenkampani.

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Kufuneka sibhekisele kuphando lwenyani lwenzululwazi
kwaye sixoxe ngaphandle kokujonga imali okanye isikhundla.

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Ngaphezu koko, kubaluleke kakhulu ukuba zonke iimvukelo
zivuleleke elubala kwaye zonke iingxoxo zenziwe esidlangalaleni.

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Kwaye wonke ummi angabandakanyeka aze abe
lilungu lokuxhasa injongo yethu nokufumana inyaniso.

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Andifuni kungxamela, kodwa ingaba sele
ikhona indlela efanelekileyo yokujoyina?

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Ewe, nabani na onomdla angangena ngokulula
kwiwebhusayithi yethu ethi www.volkstribunal.ngo

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okanye kwiTelegram ethi https://t.me/Volkstribunal.

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Njengelungu, ungumxhasi kwaye uya
kuhlala unolwazi malunga neziganeko zamva nje.

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Noko ke, sidinga amalungu angama-100,000 akwi-NGO.

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Ngenxa yesi sizathu, sidinga ikopi yesazisi sakho kunye
neenkcukacha ezithile, ezinokuthunyelwa kuthi ngeposi.

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Siyilawula yonke into ngaphandle
kwe-intanethi kwaye siqinisekisa ukhuseleko lwedatha.

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Kulungile kakhulu. Akukho nto iza kusetyenziswa
gwenxa okanye ipapashwe. Oko kubalulekile kuthi.

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Kulungile kakhulu, ewe, oko kubalulekile.
Kulungile. Kodwa phambi kokuba senjenjalo,

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masingene nzulu kancinci kule nkcazelo intsha.

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Sixelele namhlanje ngento malunga nendlela
yokucinga nendlela yokusebenza yale NGO intsha.

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Ngenxa yokuba ngokwenene sijongene nokutshona ngokwasemthethweni,
wonke umntu onesikhundla kwi-"IG Volkstribunal" ugqibe kwelokuba

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afunge inyaniso kwaye ume nabantu baseSwitzerland ngobuchule babo
kwimiba yamalungelo oluntu kunye nokutshona ngokwasemthethweni.

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ukujongana nolwaphulo-mthetho olwenzeka phambi kwamehlo ethu.

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Le mbulelo iyafuneka kananjalo kumaGqwetha,
kumaJaji, nakubo bonke abathathi-nxaxheba.

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Ungasinika umzekelo oqondakalayo wento ocinga ukuba
ayihambi kakuhle, ukuba inkqubo yezomthetho iye yawa?

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Ewe. Nkqu nesakhiwo esisiseko eSwitzerland
asisayithobeli iimfuno zomgaqo-siseko zokwahlulwa kwamagunya.

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Umzekelo, ngotshintsho olusuka kumbutho wamazwe
oluzimeleyo luye kwilizwe elimanyeneyo,

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amapolisa adityaniswa neenkundla ukwenza isebe elinye.

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Nantsi indlela iSebe lezoBulungisa namapolisa elaba
khona ngayo. Amandla omabini ngaloo ndlela adityaniswa.

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Okwenza izinto zibe mbi ngakumbi kukuba lawa
lawulwa yipolitiki kwaye anikwa usukelo lwebhajethi.

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Ngaloo ndlela, izakhiwo zeenkampani ziye zangena
ngokufihlakeleyo endaweni yezakhiwo zikarhulumente.

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Ezi zinto zintathu zidla ngokwahlukana ke ngoku
zisebenzisana kunye – nto leyo eyonakalisa abemi.

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Njengoko ngoku wonke umntu kufuneka afikelele kwiinjongo
zohlahlo-lwabiwo-mali lwakhe, akunangqiqo ukucinga

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ukuba inkundla iza kugweba ixhasa ubulungisa; endaweni
yoko, kulindeleke ukuba ishishini libekwe phambili.

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Kunjalo nakwamapolisa. Namhlanje, ndibabona ngakumbi
njengezithengisa zombuso – ndicela uxolo, ndixolele ngolu

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thelekiso – kunokuba ndibabone njengabakhuseli babantu.

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Namhlanje, baphuma ezitalatweni ukuze bafumanele imali
amaqela esithathu kwindawo engacacanga ngokwasemthethweni.

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Ngenxa yokuba besebenzisana ngokufihlakeleyo
neenkundla, akukho nanye kwizenzo zabo ezingekho

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mthethweni okanye ishishini ngokwalo enokucelwa umngeni.

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Umntu angaphumelela njani ityala
enkundleni phantsi kwezi meko zixubekileyo?

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Ndizamile ukubhala oku ngendlela ecacileyo
kangangoko kunokwenzeka kwincwadi ethi "Exhabitus".

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Ukongeza, izinto eziphambili kwiinkundla
zaseSwitzerland zitshintshiwe ukuze zibe ziiofisi

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zolawulo kuqala, zingabi zizinda zokufuna inyaniso.

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Namhlanje, umgwebi, masithi, ngumphathi
wenqanawa kwaye akasengomphathi womthetho.

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Impumelelo okanye intsalela yexesha
elidlulileyo – eyaziwa njengezobulungisa ezifinyeziweyo –

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ngoko ke ipheliswe ngokupheleleyo eSwitzerland.

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Loo nto ayisekho. Namhlanje, akusekho jurori
kwigumbi lenkundla, kwaye endaweni yoko kufuneka usolika.

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Inyaniso ayisafunwa yijuri, njengoko kwakunjalo ngaphambili,
kodwa ishiyelwe amagqwetha namajaji ngenxa yemali eninzi.

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Eyona nto imbi ngale nto, nangona kunjalo, kukuba
zonke iziko ezibekiweyo zokongamela ziye zaveliswa

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nje, nto leyo eshiye iinkundla phantse zingalawulwa.

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Yintoni kanye kanye ingxwabangxwaba esemthethweni?
Kwaye ingxwabangxwaba esemthethweni yenzeka nini?

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Ukutshona kwezomthetho njengoko kunjalo kuchazwe kwisichazi-magama
esisemthethweni, kwaye ndicinga ukuba siza kusifaka apha:

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Ukutsha-mali ngokomthetho kukungakwazi kwesiko
elisemthethweni ukunika ubulungisa kwabo baphantsi komthetho.

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Iziko lezomthetho lityhila ukutshona ngokomthetho, umzekelo, xa
livumela amaxoki ukuba anyukele phezulu, lenza ababhali

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abangakhathali babe ngababhali basemsebenzini, abaqhathi babe
ngabagcini-mali, abaqambi-maxwebhu babe

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ngababhali-zincwadi, abazenzisayo babe ngabavavanyi,
kunye nabahombolazi babe ngabaphathi bezomthetho.

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Phantsi kweemeko ezinjalo, ithemba kuphela lokuphucuka
likukubuyela ngokupheleleyo kwixabiso elamkelweyo

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ngumntu wonke, njengenyani, inkululeko nemigaqo yomthetho.

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Ndingathanda nje ukukhomba ukuba lo mbhalo
awubhalwanga yi-NGO yethu, kodwa upapashwe kwisichazi-magama

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esisemthethweni esiphethwe nguProf. Dr. Gerhard Köbler.

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Akunanto yakwenza nathi, kodwa kusesemthethweni.

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Kulungile, ngoku sesisemthethweni. Ukungabikho
kwemali okusemthethweni kubonakalisa njani ngokwenyani?

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Iminyaka emithathu edlulileyo ngokukodwa, ngeli xesha
lokuphazamiseka ngenxa ye-coronavirus, ityhile amayelenqe

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e-candelo likarhulumente, ingakumbi amapolisa kunye neenkundla
zomthetho, ibonisa ukuba urhulumente kufuneka enze izenzo

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eziyityala aze axhaphaze abemi bakhe ngazo naziphi na
iindlela ezifunekayo ukuze ahlale enokuhlawula

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amatyala ayo, kwaye aqinisekise isizathu sokubakho kwayo.

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Ukusilela okukhulu kweenkundla kubonakaliswe "zizityholo"
ezingenakubalwa, ebezifudula zibizwa "ngamacala" –

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nto leyo ebonisa ukuba abemi abasenalo naliphi na
ilungelo. Kwaye amapolisa aqinisekisile esi siphumo.

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Bathetha nge "cases" kwaye hayi "cases".

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Ungasinika umzekelo oqinileyo 'wesivumelwano' esinjalo?

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Ewe, omnye wemizekelo endiyithanda kakhulu yityala
eliziswe phambi kweNkundla yeFederal ligqwetha uGqr Gerald Brei.

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Inkundla igwebe isithi ityala alinakumanyelwa
kuba iinyaniso ezazisele zisaziwa azinakumanyelwa.

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Ingongoma ibiyile yokuba imaski ayikhuseli
kwintsholongwane. – Ngoko ke bubudenge obupheleleyo.

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Nangona kunjalo, oku akuyitshintshi into
yokuba bekungakhange kunxitywe sikhuseli

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sobuso – kwaye isohlwayo sisasele. Akukholeleki.

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Iimeko ezinje zibonisa indlela ukusilela okucace gca ngayo.

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Oku akusayiqondakali ngengqondo eqhelekileyo.

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Kwiimeko ezinjalo, kufuneka kusetyenziswe le
nto ekuthiwa yiRadbruch formula, ethintela

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ngqo ukuziphatha okungafanelekanga okunjalo.

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Yintoni kanye kanye ifomula kaRadbruch?

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Ifomula kaRadbruch yithisisi yefilosofa yezomthetho
yaseJamani uGustav Radbruch, echaza ukuba umthetho

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owenzakalisa abantu akunyanzelekanga ukuba uwuthobele.

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Kwaye kwinyathelo lesibini – wayibeka njengombono onamacandelo
amabini – kwinyathelo lesibini, uchaza ukuba ukuba

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umthetho awukho semthethweni kwasekuqaleni okanye
awukhonzi abantu, lo mthetho nawo kufuneka ungahoywa.

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Apha singena ngqo kwisifundo sefilosofi.

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Nangona kunjalo, kubalulekile ukuqaphela ukuba iingcinga
ezisisiseko zaphuhliswa emva kweMfazwe yesibini yeHlabathi

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kanye ukuthintela oku ukuba kwenzeke kwakhona kwixesha elizayo.

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Ulwazi lokuba yonke imthetho yenzelwe iinjongo
zorhwebo luyisiseko apha, kwaye umahluko phakathi

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komthetho nokwenza umthetho kufuneka kuqala uqondwe.

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Ngoko ke sinamalungelo angenakususwa, ukuba nje siyawakhathalela.

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Ngokwahlukileyo, kukho imithetho engenanto yakwenza
nobulungisa, kodwa ekhusela kwaye ikhethe urhwebo.

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Imithetho iyasuswa kude kwayimida engavakaliyo de kwenzeke
ukuqhawuka komthetho okukhankanyiweyo, kwaye kule meko

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sibuyela ekuqaleni, masithi, kwaye kufuneka sibuyele
kwixabiso elisisiseko, njengoko kuchaziwe kuqhawuko lomthetho.

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Okwangoku, iifomula ezifana nefomula kaRadbruch okanye,
ndingongeza, iSifungo saseHippocratic, azinanto ngaphandle

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kwezinto eziyinkumbuzo nje nezithethwa ngomlomo kuphela.

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Ngokoluvo lwakho, yeyiphi indlela
enokusikhupha kule ntswela-mali esemthethweni?

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Kwiwebhusayithi rechtsbankrott.ch, leyo
okwangoku emele abatshutshisi, sinolwazi ngalo

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mbutho kwaye sizama ukucebisa abantu ngokwenyaniso.

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Indlela esemthethweni ikwi-tribunal yabantu.

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Kwi-tribunal ezimeleyo, sidinga amalungu angama-100,000 e-"IG
Volkstribunal" (Umbutho weNkundla yabaLuntu) ukuze simisele le

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nkundla ngokusemthethweni kwaye ngaphezu koko sifumane
amagunya okumela ukuze sithathe inxaxheba ekumangaleleni,

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oko kukuthi, xa kukho ukutshona kwezimali ngokusemthethweni.

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La magunya okumela aqokelelwa yi-NGO yethu
kwaye asebenza njengesiseko sokumangalelwa.

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Okokuqala: la magunya okumela umthetho anika
kuphela "EWE" efunekayo ngokomthetho kwinkqubo

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ye-tribunal, kwaye akwenzeki nto ingaphezulu kwangaphambili.

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Igama elithi "amandla ommeli"
likhethiwe kuba liyimfuneko ngokomthetho.

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Akukho nto enye iza kwenzeka ngamandla ogunyaziso; iinkcukacha
aziyi kuthunyelwa naphi na okanye ziguqulwe zibe zidijithali.

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Amandla esigunyaziwo mayaqondwe ngolu hlobo: Ndinika imvume
yophando olunyani noluzimeleyo ngokwenene lwesi sityholo.

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ITribhinalo Yabantu ngumbutho
owamiselwa ukuvumela ukugweba okuzimeleyo.

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Kufuneka sibe ngamalungu angama-100,000 ukuze sithwale umthwalo
wobulungisa kwaye, ngokungqinelana neSigaba 30(1) soMgaqo-siseko,

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iSigaba 6(1) se-ECHR, kunye neSigaba 10 soMthetho
wamaLungelo oLuntu, sibonise indlela oku kuza kuphunyezwa ngayo.

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Abagwebi namajuri abazimeleyo nabanengathathi cala
ngabo abalawula inkundla baze bafikelele kwisigwebo.

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Loo nto yayililungelo lethu elalisiqinisekisiweyo,
kodwa laphunyelwa nje ziinkundla zamatyala

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nabezopolitiko, kwaye ngoku asilunyangekelwa nje; abazukubuya.

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Ngubani kanye kanye oqhuba inkundla yabantu? Ingaba i-NGO
yenu iyayenza loo nto? Okanye le nkundla isebenza njani eneneni?

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I-NGO yethu (yamaVakali) ayinanto yakwenza nentlangano yamatyala
ngokwayo, kodwa ibonelela ngolwazi kuphela,

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ichaza kwaye iseka inkundla, kwaye iqokelela
amagunya okumela njengegunya elibangela amatyala.

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Ukuba kukho umnqweno obonakalayo phakathi
kwabantu, apho abantu abangama-100,000 beza

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kunye, ngoko ke ukusekwa kwenkundla kunokuqala.

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Inyathelo lokuqala elisemthethweni kule tyala
kukundithathela indawo, kuba andibalulekanga

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kwi-tribunal nakwinkundla, kwaye andingomabhalana-mthetho.

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Andingomgwebi, ndikhokelele ndalungiselela yonke into nje.

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Inkundla izilawula ngokwayo – oku
kubalulekile – kwaye ingeyamalungu kuphela.

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Sihlawulele yonke into ngemali yethu kude kube ngoku kwaye
sikuvuyela ukuba asisanyanzelekanga ukuthwala lo mthwalo sodwa.

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Ndiyaqonda. Umthetho ubhalwe ngendlela yokuba ndikhokele
iNkundla Yabantu de ibe namandla asemthethweni, emva

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koko kufuneka ikhansela efanelekileyo ikhokele le nkundla.

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I-"IG Volkstribunal" yamalungu abhalisiweyo – ngokwamalungu
alinganayo – kwaye elinye nelinye linelizwi elinye.

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Ngokuqinisekileyo kuza kufuneka ndenze umsebenzi omninzi apha
wokunikezela ngolwazi ukuze wonke umntu ochaphazelekayo – kuquka

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nabamangalelwa – akwazi ukuhlalutya yonke le meko, ukuqinisekisa
ukuba isigwebo asinakuguqulwa kamva. Oko kusabalulekile.

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Oko kubalulekile, ewe. Isebenza njani
itriybhiyali yabantu xa isetyenziswa?

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Ewe, isebenza njani loo nto? Abagwebi nabavoti abangakhethi cala
bafikelela kwisigwebo, esixhaswa ngokwasemthethweni ngumgwebi

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kunye nabavoti, abenziwe ngabantu abavela kuluntu lwethu.

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Bambisene, bahlola ukuba izityholo zingqiniwe na,
kwaye ke ngoko ukuba umba wobutyala ucacisiwe na.

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Ukuphepha ukungena kwiinkcukacha ezininzi apha,
ndiyakunika incwadi yam ethi "Exhabitus", kuba

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kulapho endibhale khona inkcazelo epheleleyo yenkundla.

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Kulungile. Sele sibonise oko, singakufunda
ngako. Oko kuvakala kumangalisa ngandlel' ithile.

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Kodwa kwenzeka ntoni, umzekelo, emva kokuba kugwetywe
umtyholiwe? Abagwetyiweyo bakhokelwa njani ekuzisolenzeni?

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Ngenxa yokuba itriybhiyali yabantu ivulelekile ngokupheleleyo
kwaye ulwaphulo-mthetho oluza kujongwa luyokuba kukungcatsha

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ilizwe okukhulu okanye ubukhoboka obusekelwe kwiziko,
urhwaphilizo lweziko, ubunqolobi obuxhobileyo njalo njalo,

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intando yabantu ibophelela ngokomthetho xa isigwebo sele
siphunyeziwe. Ngoko ke akukho nto ingaphaya ekufuneka yenziwe.

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Akukho ngathi kuyalahlekisa ukucinga ukuba la
magqwirha athe gwaqwa azakuthobela nje ukuthanda kwabantu?

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Yonke inkundla esemagunyeni ngoku inegunya elisemthethweni.

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Yeyiphi imandla enokunyanzelisa isohlwayo
esifanelekileyo emva kwetribunal yabantu esemthethweni?

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Nje ukuba kumiselwe itriyubhiyali yabantu ngeendlela
ezisemthethweni, oko kukuthi, ngamalungu ayo

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ali-100,000 avela ebantwini, umkhosi kufuneka
uqinisekise ukuba iyanyanzeliswa ngokufanelekileyo.

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Umba apha kukuba ngamaxesha emfazwe okanye kwiimeko
ezithile zikaxakeka, umkhosi unoxanduva lwamalungelo

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oluntu kwaye ke ngoko kufuneka usebenzise izohlwayo.

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Ingaba sithetha ngokuba urhulumente wethu awiswe
ngoloyiso lomkhosi? Owu, yeka umbuzo! Hayi, konke konke!

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Akunjalo kwaphela? Hayi, hayi, akunjalo kwaphela! Ilizwe
lokwenene ngabantu, hayi ulawulo, kwaye

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ngumba nje wokususa izaphuli-mthetho ezibi
kwinkqubo yethu yelizwe. – Asikokuphanga ulawulo!

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Kulungile, akukho nxulumaniso! Ngoku ekubeni sibone ukuba
ukwahlulwa kwamagunya akukho ngaphaya kobuxoki, nokuba zombini

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icandelo lezomthetho nelamatyala kunye
necandelo elilawulayo ziye zangena kuyo, ingaba

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kunokwenzeka ukuba nomkhosi nawo ungenwe kuye?

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Ucinga ukuba kubaluleke kangakanani ukuba esi sicaciso sokuqala
senziwe phambi kokuba kufikelelwe kwisigwebo yitribunal yabantu?

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Ndingakhetha ukuthatha enye indlela
apha kunokubonakalisa into engentle.

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Sisizwe sabantu abangcatshiweyo ngabambalwa.

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Ndicinga ukuba ngexesha lobhubhane
we-coronavirus, abantu abaninzi babengalushisi

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ekucingeni kwabo baza balandela inkokeli engeyiyo.

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Noko ke, sesele sibona ukuba abatyhili abaninzi
bazimisele kakhulu ukungqina, kwaye kufuneka sicinge ukuba

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le meko iza kuxhaphaka ngokukhawuleza sakuba siqalile.

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Ukuba iingxoxo nazo zisasazwa ngqo kwaye wonke umntu angabakhona
ukuze alandele iinkqubo, asisayi kuba sadinga namajoni.

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Mandiibeke ngolu hlobo: abantu abangcatshiweyo
nabavukileyo akukho lula ukubalawula. Oku kusebenza

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kwihlabathi jikelele; kuyasebenza kuyo yonke indawo.

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Unamazwi okuqukumbela afanelekileyo na?

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Ewe, kanye njalo. Sifikelele kwindawo embalini apho wonke umntu
engathembani nomnye, agwebe abanye ngaphandle kokukhetha

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kwaye elawulwa kangangokuba asisathembi nengcinga yethu
esinyanisekileyo. – Yiloo ndawo esele sifikelele kuyo. –

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ITribhinalo Yabantu yenzelwe
ukusombulula esi sikhalazo siqhubekayo.

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Akukhathaliseki nokuba uvukile, ungumkholwa kwinkqubo,
uhlengahlengiswe ngokwemfuza, ungowesandla sasekhohlo, owesandla

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sasekunene, ungowesini esithile, ungumlesibiyani, ungumntwana,
umdala okanye nantoni na enye. Eyona nto ibalulekileyo

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kukuba kusekwe isixhobo sokugqibela sokubuyisana ukuze
zonke iinkalo zifumane ilizwi kwaye kulwe ulwaphulo-mthetho.

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Logama sisahlulana kwaye sizivumela ukuba siphazanyiswe, abenzi
bobubi baya kuqhubeka nje – siyayazi le nto – de impucuko yoluntu

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ipheliswe okanye uMhlaba wethu utshabalaliswe. – Lo ngumzekelo
omkhulu, kodwa sikule ndlela. – Oku akufuneki kwenzeke.

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Okokugqibela, ndingathanda ukugxininisa kwakhona ukuba i-NGO
yethu ayizami kuqulunqa inkqubo, nto leyo isabalulekileyo, kodwa

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ikuphela kwayo kukususa ngokusemthethweni zonke izaphuli-mthetho
ezingene ngobuqhetseba zaza zaxhaphaza ilizwe lethu.

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Ndingathanda kwakhona ukuthatha eli thuba
ukubulela iqela lam ngomonde walo onganasiphelo kunye nabo

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bonke abantu abangaziyekiyo de inyani iphumelele.

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Kulungile kakhulu, amazwi amahle
okuqukumbela. Enkosi ngeso sitatimende sicacileyo.

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Ngoko ke singajonga phambili ekuboneni ukuba kuza
kuthatha ixesha elingakanani i-NGO yenu entsha ukuba iqokelele

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iisayini ezili-100,000, okanye amalungu, afunwa ngumthetho.

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Njengoko sele uchazile, ingqokelela yenzeka
nge-website yakho ethi www.volkstribunal.ngo.

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Enkosi ngokucacisa kwaye ndikunqwenelela okuhle.

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Ewe, nawe kananjalo. Enkosi ngokundivumela ukuba ndibe lapha.