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'Ukubuka Ngaphezu Kwefensi' yanamuhla
igxile kumbhali walencwadi ethi 'Exhabitus'.

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Mnu. Icon, kuyamangalisa ukuba nawe nathi namuhla,
futhi siyabonga ngokusethula izindaba eziyinhloko

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zomsebenzi wakho ochwepheshe onamakhasi angu-200.

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Ngesithokozo, ngiyabonga ngaleli thuba.

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Ekhasini lesihlanu sencwadi yakho, kuyacaca ukuthi usuqedile
izifundo eziningi ezivelele, isibonelo kwifiziksi ye-quantum,

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ezinkolo, emthethweni wamazwe ngamazwe,
emthethweni wekanoni, kwezomnotho, kwezesayensi

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yomphakathi, ekumaketheni nokunye okuningi.

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Ngaphezu kwalokho, uthi ngesikhathi ubhala incwadi
yakho, wathola iziqu ezibaluleke kakhulu esingeke

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sikhulume ngazo lapha ngenxa yokuntula kwesikhathi.

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Ekugcineni, ingxoxo yanamuhla imayelana
kuphela nokwethula kabusha inkantolo yomthetho

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eyalahlekile. Lokho kuyenza kube mnandi kakhulu.

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Manje sikhuluma ngenkantolo yomthetho eyayikhona eSwitzerland
ezikhathini zasendulo, eyayijwayelekile

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futhi ingakhethi uhlangothi ngokuphelele,
futhi eyayakhiwe ngamalungu abantu uqobo.

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Nokho, lolu hlobo lwenkantolo belungekho isikhathi eside.

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Encwadini yakho ethi Exhabitus, unikeza yonke
ubufakazi obudingekayo kanye nesisekelo somthetho

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sokubuyisela impahla yomphakathi esemthethweni esiyilahlekile.

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– Ingabe ngikuqondile kahle? Yebo, kulungile.

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Ngokuqinile, nokho ingxoxo yethu isivele
igxile ekwakhiweni kokuqala

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nasekuthuthukisweni okusebenzayo kwenkinga yakho eyinhloko.

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Esitatimendeni sakho sakamuva se-press release ku-Kla.TV, ubhala,
futhi ngicaphuna: "Ngemva kwesigaba sokulungiselela

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esinzima kakhulu, manje sesikulungele ukwethula iphrojekthi ethi
'IG Volkstribunal' emphakathini ngomhlaka 1 Novemba 2024."

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Singobani – futhi ungachaza kanjani
ukukhathazeka kwakho okuyinhloko ngamazwi akho?

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WIR imele inhlangano engenzi nzuzo entsha, noma
inhlangano engahulumeni, ebizwa ngokuthi "Interessengemeinschaft

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Volkstribunal" (Iqembu Lezintshisekelo LeNkantolo Yabantu).

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Itribhinal yabantu, njengoba kunjalo, ingenye
yezikhungo ezindala kakhulu ekuphathweni kobulungiswa.

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Lokhu kusho ukuthi i-tribunal ivela kubantu futhi
ayinakolawulwa izintshisekelo zikahulumeni noma zezinkampani.

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Emthethweni wamaRoma, ama-tribune ayemela izwi
labantu, ababenelungelo lokuvota ngokuthi

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'cha' ukuze kugcinwe iklasi elibusayo lilawulwe.

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Nokho, ikhono lokwenza izinqumo ezizimele selinciphile kancane
kancane ngenxa yezombusazwe emashumini eminyaka adlule, futhi

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namuhla asisekho ukuhlolwa kwesigwebo noma
ukulawulwa yizinkantolo okungasivikela ezimishelweni

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eziyingozi zabaphathi bezepolitiki namagunya kahulumeni.

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Ngabe bekukhona izincazelo
zomphakathi ngalesi sinyathelo esidlulele?

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Yebo, impela. Amathibhrikhali, ayebizwa nangokuthi
izinkantolo zejuri, avaliwe ngenxa yokungabi

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nenzuzo futhi ngokuqinisekile ngeke avuselelwe ngababusi.

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Lokhu kuholele ohlelweni oluzimele lokuvikela nokusebenzisa
izintshisekelo zezepolitiki nezinkampani, kanti namuhla

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izakhamuzi azinayo indlela esemthethweni
yokuzivikela ekuhlaselweni, kuhlanganise nokwephulwa kobuqotho

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bomzimba wazo – isibonelo ngomjovo we-coronavirus.

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Ukugwenywa kobulungisa nokunganaki ngokuhleleka kwamalungelo
abantu sekugqanyisiwe ezimweni ezahlukene

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nasemitholampilo ehlukahlukene futhi sekwazisiwe
emphakathini eziteshini zezindaba ezifana ne-Kla.TV.

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Namuhla sibona ubugebengu obuningi buqhubeka phambi kwamehlo
ethu, futhi konke esingakwenza okwamanje wukuba ababukeli –

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futhi okungcono kakhulu – abaxhasi bezimali, ukuze singawela
isisulu sokuzikhethela okukhulu kwenkantolo neziphathimandla.

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Eminyakeni emine edlule sekubonise lokhu ngokusobala kakhulu.

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Ubugebengu bokungcola, ucindezelwano, ukuqapha nokusetshenziswa
ngokweqile sekufinyelele ezingeni lezinhlangano eliqhubeka

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nokuzuza amandla, likhohlisa futhi lisebenzisa abantu ngokwephula
amalungelo abo ayisisekelo. – Ubuphazamiseko bengqondo.

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Ngakho-ke kuwumcabango ongokoqobo ukucabanga ukuthi umhlanguli
onamandla uzovela ngokuzumayo futhi enze konke kube ngcono.

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Ukuze kuvuselelwe umzimba ozimele, kwasungulwa
i-"IG Volkstribunal" – "Interessengemeinschaft

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Volkstribunal" (Iqembu Lezintshisekelo LeNkantolo Yabantu).

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Ingabe le NGO entsha isivele
inezihloko noma izinhloso ezicacisiwe?

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Yebo. Kumele sihlolisise ngokuzimela izindaba
eziningi ezingakahlolwa emashumini eminyaka adlule.

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Ucwaningo ozimele aluzange luthathwe ngqondo,
kungakhathaliseki nokuthi luthathwe ngokungathi sína.

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Ngakho-ke kumele sigxile ezonweni ezinkulu
ezidinga ukuhlolwa kwangaphandle futhi sizibhekane nazo.

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Izifundo zakamuva ngomlando we-coronavirus, i-geoengineering,
i-5G kanye nokuboshwa kobuntu ngezigqila azikwazi

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ukuhlolwa ngabasemagunyeni ngaphakathi kwalesi
simiso, abahlanganyela kulezi zono futhi bazuza kuzo.

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Yebo, kunengqondo. Ingabe kukhona izisekelo
zomthetho noma izindlela ezingasetshenziswa ngalokhu?

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Yebo. Ngenxa yomthethosisekelo wethu
kazwelonke, sisakwazi ukusebenzisa ezinye izinsiza

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eSwitzerland ezingakasetshenziswa okwamanje.

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Kuyathakazelisa. Ngakho-ke, njenge-IG Volkstribunal, simi
ndawonye ngaphansi kwezimiso eziphakeme kakhulu zokuziphatha

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nokuzethemba, futhi siphenya ukuthi ingabe
uhulumeni waseSwitzerland usasebenzela izakhamuzi zawo

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noma usebenzela kuphela izintshisekelo zezinkampani.

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Kumele sifune izifundo zesayensi ezithembekile
futhi sixoxe ngaphandle kokubheka izimali nesikhundla.

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Ngaphezu kwalokho, kubalulekile ukuthi zonke
izifundo zivulekile futhi zonke izingxoxo zenziwe obala.

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Futhi wonke umuntu ongumhlali angabamba iqhaza futhi abe
yilungu ukuze asekele injongo yethu futhi athole iqiniso.

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Angifuni ukushaya isihlangu ngaphambi kwesikhathi,
kodwa ingabe sekukhona indlela esebenzayo yokujoyina?

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Yebo, noma ubani onentshisekelo angangena
kalula kuwebhusayithi yethu www.volkstribunal.ngo

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noma ku-Telegram https://t.me/Volkstribunal.

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Njengelungu, uyisekeli futhi uzoba nolwazi ngemicimbi yakamuva.

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Nokho, sidinga amalungu ayizinkulungwane eziyikhulu abase-NGO.

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Ngenxa yalokhu, sidinga ikhophi yesazisi sakho
nolunye ulwazi, olungathunyelwa kithi ngeposi.

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Siphatha konke ngaphandle kwe-intanethi
futhi siqinisekisa ukuvikelwa kwedatha.

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Kuhle kakhulu. Akukho okuzosetshenziswa kabi
noma okushicilelwe. Lokho kubalulekile kithi.

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Kuhle kakhulu, yebo, lokho kubalulekile.
Kulungile. Kodwa ngaphambi kokuba senze

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lokho, masijule kancane kulezi zinto ezintsha.

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Sitshele namuhla ngesimo sengqondo
nendlela yokusebenza yale NGO entsha.

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Ngoba empeleni sibhekene nokubhujiswa kwezimali ngokomthetho,
wonke umuntu ophethe isikhundla ku-"IG Volkstribunal" unqume

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ukufunga iqiniso futhi ume nabantu
baseSwitzerland ngobungcweti babo ezindabeni

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zamalungelo abantu nokubhujiswa kwezimali ngokomthetho.

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ukubhekana nobugebengu obwenzeka phambi kwamehlo ethu.

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Lesi sihlambanyo siphinde sidingeke
kubahluleli abazayo, kumalungu ejuri, nakubahlanganyeli.

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Ungasinika isibonelo esithile salokho ocabanga ukuthi
kuhamba kabi, ukuthi uhlelo lwezomthetho luye lwahluleka?

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Yebo. Ngisho nesisekelo esiyisisekelo eSwitzerland asisavumelani
nezimfuneko zomthethosisekelo zokwahlukaniswa kwamandla.

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Isibonelo, ngesikhathi kushintshela kusukela ekubumbaneni
kwezifundazwe kuya ezweni likahulumeni

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omkhulu, amabutho amaphoyisa ahlanganiswa
nezinkantolo ukuze kwakhiwe inhlangano eyodwa.

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Nansi indlela uMnyango Wezobulungiswa namaphoyisa
abavela ngayo. Amandla amabili ahlanganyelwa kanjalo.

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Okwenza lokhu kube nzima nakakhulu ukuthi
zilawulwa yizombusazwe futhi zithola ingxenye yebhajethi.

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Ngakho-ke, izakhiwo zezinkampani sezingenile
ngempumelelo ukuze zithathe indawo yezakhiwo zombuso.

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Lezi zinhlangano ezintathu ezivame ukuhlukana manje
sezisebenza ndawonye – okubangela umonakalo kubantu bomphakathi.

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Njengoba manje wonke umuntu kumele afinyelele imigomo yebhajethi
yakhe, akunangqondo ukucabanga ukuthi inkantolo

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izonquma ngokuvumelana nokulunga; kunalokho
kulindeleke ukuthi ibhizinisi lithole ukubaluleka okukhulu.

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Kuyafana nakwamaphoyisa. Namuhla
ngibabona kakhulu njengabathengisa ucansi

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lukahulumeni kunokuba babe abavikeli babantu.

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Namuhla, baphuma emigwaqweni ukuze bathole izimali
zamaqembu wesithathu endaweni emfuzuzwini yomthetho.

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Njengoba behlanganyela ngokungemthetho
nezinkantolo, izenzo zabo ezingekho emthethweni

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kanye neshishini uqobo abakwazi ukuphikiswa.

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Ungawina kanjani umuntu icala
enkantolo ngaphansi kwalezi zimo ezixakekile?

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Ngizamile ukubhala lokhu phansi ngendlela
ecacile ngangokunokwenzeka encwadini ethi "Exhabitus".

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Ngaphezu kwalokho, izinkantolo eSwitzerland seziguqulwe izibekelo
zazo ukuze zisebenze ikakhulu njengehhovisi lezokuphatha,

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futhi zingasasebenzi njengendawo zokuthola iqiniso.

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Namuhla, umahluleli ungumphathi wesikebhe,
ngokuthi, futhi akasaseyisilondolozi somthetho.

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Ukuphumelela noma insalela yomlando – okwaziwa ngokuthi
ubulungisa obufingqiwe – sekuphelile ngokuphelele eSwitzerland.

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Lokho akusekho. Namuhla, sekungekho jurori
enkantolo, futhi esikhundleni salokho udinga ummeli.

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Iqiniso asisekafunwa yi-juri njengakuqala, kodwa
sekushiyelwe abameli nabahluleli ngentengo ephakeme.

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Okubi kakhulu ngalokhu, nokho, wukuthi zonke
iziphathimandla zokuqapha ezikhona sezisusiwe

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nje, kushiya izinkantolo cishe zingalawulwa.

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Yini ngempela ukubhujiswa kwezikweletu
okuvumelekile ngokomthetho? Futhi kwenzeka nini

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ukubhujiswa kwezikweletu okuvumelekile ngokomthetho?

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Ukubhujiswa kwezimali ngokomthetho njengoba
kunjalo kuchazwe eSichazamazwini

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somthetho, futhi ngicabanga ukuthi sizokufaka lapha:

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"Ukubhujiswa kwezimali ngokomthetho kuwukungakwazi kwesikhungo
somthetho ukuhlinzeka ngobulungisa kulabo abaphansi komthetho."

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Inhlangano yezomthetho iveza ukuwohloka kwezomthetho, isibonelo,
lapho ivumela amanga ukuthi anyuke aye phezulu, yenza abaculi

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begraffiti babe abasebenzi basemahhovisi, abakhohlisi babe
abaphathi bemali, abafakazi bamanga babe abarekhodi, abazenzisi

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babe abahloli kanye nabacindezelayo babe abaphathi abavumelekile.

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Ngezimo ezinjalo, ithemba kuphela lokuthuthuka lise
ekubuyeleni ngokuphelele kwenqobo-mbono ezamukelwa umhlaba

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wonke, ezifana neqiniso, inkululeko nezimiso zomthetho.

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Ngifuna nje ukukhombisa ukuthi lo mbhalo
awubhalwanga yi-NGO yethu, kodwa waqoqwa e-diksheni

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esemthethweni yezomthetho nguProfesa Dokotela Gerhard Köbler.

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Lokhu akunakho ukuhlobana nathi, kodwa sekusemthethweni.

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Kulungile, manje sekusemthethweni. I-bankruptcy esemthethweni
iveza kanjani imiphumela yayo empilweni yangempela?

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Eminyakeni emithathu edlule ikakhulukazi, kulesi sikhathi
sokwesaba i-coronavirus, sekudalulwe amacebo ahlelwe umkhakha

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kahulumeni, ikakhulukazi amaphoyisa kanye neziphathimandla
zezobulungiswa, okubonisa ukuthi umbuso kumele wenze izakhamuzi

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zawo zibe yizigebengu futhi uzisebenzise nganoma yiziphi
izindlela ezidingekayo ukuze uqhubeke ekwazi ukukhokha izikweletu

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zawo, futhi ukuze uzifakazele isidingo sokusebenza kwawo.

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Ukuhluleka okuphelele kwezinkantolo kwavezwa ngamacala
angenakubalwa, ayebizwa ngokuthi "amacala"

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– okusho ukuthi izakhamuzi azisenalungelo.
Amaphoyisa aqinisekisile lesi sitholokhona.

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Bakhuluma ngama-'cases' futhi bangakhulumi ngama-'cases'.

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Ungasinika isibonelo esiqinile salolu hlobo lwesivumelwano?

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Yebo, esinye sezibonelo engizithandayo kakhulu yicala
elalethelwa eNkantolo Yezwe ngummeli uDkt Gerald Brei.

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Inkantolo yanquma ukuthi icala alinakuzwa
ngoba amaqiniso ayewazi kakade awanakuzawa.

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Inhloso kwakuwukuthi imaski ayivikeli
ku-virus. – Ngakho-ke kuwubuwula ngokuphelele.

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Nokho, lokhu akushintshi iqiniso lokuthi akuzange kugqokwe
isembozo sobuso – futhi inhlawulo isekhona. Akukholakali.

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Amacala afana nalawa abonisa
ngokusobala ukuthi ukuhluleka kubonakala kanjani.

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Lokhu sekungasachazeki ngengqondo evamile.

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Ezimo ezinjalo, okubizwa ngokuthi ifomula
kaRadbruch kuzodingeka isetshenziswe, evimbela

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ngokunembile ukuziphatha okungafanele kanjalo.

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Yini ngempela ifomula kaRadbruch?

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Ifomula kaRadbruch iyithiyisi yefilosofi
yezomthetho yaseJalimane uGustav Radbruch, ethi

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umthetho olimaza abantu awudingeki ukuthi bawulalele.

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Futhi esinyathelweni sesibili – lapho ayethula khona
njengethisisi enamaphuzu amabili – uchaza ukuthi uma

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umthetho ungemthethweni kusukela ekuqaleni noma
ungawusizi abantu, lo mthetho nawo kufanele ungawuhloniphi.

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Lapha singangena ngqo esifundweni sefilosofi.

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Nokho, kubalulekile ukuqaphela ukuthi imiqondo
eyisisekelo yathuthukiswa ngemva kweMpi Yezwe Yesibili ngenhloso

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yokuvimbela lokhu ukuthi kwenzeke futhi esikhathini esizayo.

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Ulwazi lokuthi yonke imithetho imvelo yayo
iyohwebo luyisisekelo lapha, futhi umehluko phakathi

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komthetho nokwenza imithetho kumele kuqala uqondwe.

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Ngakho-ke sinamalungelo
angenakususwa, inqobo nje uma siwunakekela.

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Ngokuphambene nalokho, kunezomthetho ezingahlangene nhlobo
nobulungisa, kodwa ezivikela futhi ezisekela uhwebo kuphela.

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Imithetho iyathathwa iye ezingeni elingajwayelekile kuze kwenzeke
ukubhujiswa kwezimali ngokomthetho okushiwo ngenhla, futhi

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kulokhu sibuyela ekuqaleni, njengoba kuthiwa, futhi
kumele sibuyele ezindinganisweni eziyisisekelo,

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njengoba kuchazwe ekubhujisweni kwezimali ngokomthetho.

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Njengamanje, amafomula afana nefomula kaRadbruch
noma, ngingangeza, Isifungo sikaHippocrates, awuyona

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into ngaphandle kwezinto zasendulo nokukhuluma nje.

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Ngokombono wakho, yiliphi iphathhi
elingasisusa kulesi simo sokuxebuka ngokomthetho?

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Kuwebhusayithi rechtsbankrott.ch, okwamanje
emele abamangaleli, sinolwazi ngalolu hlelo

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futhi sizama ukweluleka abantu ngokweqiniso.

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Indlela yomthetho ihamba nge-tribunal yabantu.

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Ukuze sibe netribhinalu ezimele, sidinga amalungu angu-100,000
e-"IG Volkstribunal" (Inhlangano Yetribhinala Yabantu) ukuze

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simise inkantolo ngokusemthethweni futhi sithole
amandla okubamela ukuze sibe nengxenye

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ekumangaleleni, okusho ukuthi uma kwenzeka ukuwohloka komthetho.

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Lezi zimvume zokumela ziyaqoqwa yi-NGO yethu
futhi zisebenza njengesisekelo sokumangalelwa.

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Okokuqala: lezi zimvume zokumela zinikeza kuphela
"Yebo" edingekayo ngokomthetho enqubweni

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yenkantolo, futhi azinikezi lutho olunye kusengaphambili.

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Igama elithi "amandla ommeli"
likhethiwe ngoba lidingeka ngokomthetho.

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Akukho okunye okuzokwenzeka ngamandla okubhalisa igunya; idatha
ngeke ithunyelwe noma kuphi noma iguqulwe ibe yedijithali.

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Amandla okubhalela kumelwe aqondwe kanje:
Ngivuma uphenyo oluzimele ngempela lobugebengu.

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I-Tribunal Yabantu iyinhlangano
eyasungulwa ukuze ikwazi ukwahlulela ngokuzimela.

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Kumele sibe amalungu ayizinkulungwane ezingamakhulu
ayisishiyagalolunye ukuze sithwale umthwalo wobulungisa futhi,

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ngokuhambisana neSigaba 30(1) soMthethosisekelo weFederal,
iSigaba 6(1) soMthetho Wamalungelo Abantu

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waseYurophu (ECHR), kanye neSigaba 10 soMthetho Wamalungelo
Abantu, sikhombise ukuthi lokhu kuzosebenza kanjani.

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Abahluleli namajuri abazimele nabangenabandlululo
yibo abaphethe inkantolo futhi bafinyelela esinqumweni.

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Lokho kwakuyilungelo lethu elake laqinisekiswa,
kodwa lashiywa nje yizinkantolo nabaphathi

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bezepolitiki, futhi manje silinqatshelwa nje. Abasoze babuye.

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Ubani ngempela oqhuba inkantolo yabantu? Ingabe i-NGO yenu
iyenza lokho? Noma leyo nkantolo isebenza kanjani empeleni?

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Inhlangano yethu engenzi nzuzo (Activist) ayihlangene ngqo
nenkantolo, kodwa ihlinzeka ulwazi kuphela,

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ichaza futhi isungula inkantolo, futhi iqoqa
amandla okummela njengogunyaziwe lokumangalela.

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Uma kukhona isifiso esibonakalayo phakathi
kwabantu, lapho abantu abayizinkulungwane eziyikhulu

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behlangana, khona-ke kungaqalwa ukusungulwa kwenkantolo.

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Isenzo sokuqala esisemthethweni kuleli cala
ukungishintsha, ngoba angibalulekile

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eTribhinalini nasenkantolo, futhi angiyena ummeli.

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Angiyena umahluleli, ngihlanganise futhi ngahlela konke nje.

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Isidlo sizipheka sodwa – lokhu
kubalulekile – futhi siyilungelo labalungu kuphela.

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Sikhokhele konke ezikhwameni zethu kuze kube manje futhi
siyajabula ukuthi asisekho sidinga ukuthwala lo mthwalo sodwa.

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Ngiyakuqonda. Umthetho ubhalwe ngendlela yokuthi ngihola
iNkantolo Yabantu kuze kube inekhono elisemthethweni,

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ngemva kwalokho kumele iNkantolo iholwe nguchansela onekhono.

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I-"IG Volkstribunal" ingeyamalungu abhalisiwe – ngokulinganayo
– futhi ngamunye unalo ilungelo lokuvota elilodwa.

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Nakanjani kuzofanele ngenze umsebenzi omningi lapha ukuze
nginikeze ulwazi ukuze bonke abathintekayo – kuhlanganise

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nabamangalelwa – bakwazi ukuhlaziya yonke
ingqalasizinda, ukuze kuqinisekiswe ukuthi isinqumo

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asisoze saphikiswa kamuva. Lokho kusabalulekile.

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Lokho kubalulekile, yebo.
Ithrijubhali yabantu isebenza kanjani empeleni?

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Yebo, lokho kusebenza kanjani? Abahluleli nabahlulwa
abangakhethi bafinyelela esinqumweni, esisekelwe ngokomthetho

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ngumahluleli kanye nabahlulwa abavela emphakathini wethu.

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Ndawonye, bahlole ukuthi izinsolo sezifakazelwe yini,
ngaleyo ndlela noma umbuzo wokuba nesono usucacisiwe.

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Ukuze ngingene emininingwaneni eminingi lapha,
ngiyakubhekisela encwadini yami ethi "Exhabitus", ngoba

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yilapho engibhale khona incazelo ephelele yenkantolo.

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Kulungile. Sesivele sikubonise ukuthi singakufunda
ngakho. Lokho kuzwakala kumangalisayo ngandlela thile.

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Kodwa kwenzekani, isibonelo, ngemva kokuthi sekunikezwe
isinqumo sokuba banecala? Abasolwayo baholwa kanjani ekuzisole?

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Njengoba inkantolo yabantu ivulekile ngokuphelele futhi izinsolo
ezizoxoxwa ngazo ziyi-ukungcatsha okukhulu noma ubugqila

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benhlangano, inkohlakalo yenhlangano, ubuphekula obunamasosha
nokunye, intando yabantu ibophezela ngokomthetho uma isinqumo

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sesikhishiwe. Ngakho-ke akusekho okwengeziwe okufanele kwenziwe.

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Akuyona yini into ebuqili ukucabanga ukuthi laba
boshokobezi abagwetshiwe bazovuma nje intando yabantu?

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Yonke inkantolo esebenza njengamanje
inegunya elisemthethweni ngemuva kwayo.

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Yiliphi igunya elizosebenzisa isigwebo
esifanele ngemva kwenkantolo yabantu evumelekile?

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Uma inkantolo yabantu isunguliwe ngezindlela ezisemthethweni,
okusho ukuthi ngamalungu ayo ayizinkulungwane

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eziyikhulu ezivela kubantu, amabutho kumele
aqinisekise ukuthi iyasetshenziswa ngokufanele.

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Inkinga lapha ukuthi ngezikhathi zempi noma kwezinye izimo
eziphuthumayo, amabutho ezempi anesibopho sokuhlonipha

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amalungelo abantu futhi ngaleyo ndlela kumele afake izijeziso.

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Ingabe sikhuluma ngokuthi umbuso wethu ubhujiswe ngokuthatha
kombuso ngamandla ezempi? Hawu, yiliphi umbuzo! Cha, nhlobo!

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Akunjalo nhlobo? Cha, cha, akunjalo nhlobo! Isifundazwe
sangempela ngabantu, hhayi abaphathi, futhi

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kuwumsebenzi nje wokususa izigebengu ezinzima
ohlelweni lwesifundazwe sethu. – Akuyona i-coup!

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Kulungile, akukho ukuthatha kombuso! Manje njengoba sesibonile
ukuthi ukuhlukaniswa kwamandla akuyona into ngaphandle

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kwesithombe-mbono, ukuthi zombili izigatsha zomthetho
nezokwahlulela kanye nesigatsha sobuholi

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sezihlaselwe, kungenzeka yini ukuthi amasosha nawo asehlangene?

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Ububona kubaluleke kangakanani ukuthi lolu
hlanjululo lokuqala lwenziwe ngaphambi

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kokuba inkantolo yabantu ifinyelele esinqumweni?

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Bengingakhetha ukuthatha indlela
ehlukile lapha kunokubonakaliswa okungalungile.

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Siyisizwe sabantu abangcatshwe abambalwa.

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Ngicabanga ukuthi ngesikhathi sobhubhane we-coronavirus, abantu
abaningi babengacabangi kahle futhi balandela umholi ongafanele.

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Nokho, sesivele sibona ukuthi abembuli bamaphutha abaningi
bazimisele kakhulu ukufakaza, futhi kumele sicabange

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ukuthi lo mkhuba uzothola amandla ngokushesha nje lapho siqala.

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Uma izingxoxo nazo zisakazwa bukhoma futhi wonke umuntu
ekhona ukulandela ukuqhubeka kwazo, ngeke sibe sadinga amasosha.

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Ake ngikubeke kanje: abantu abangcatshiwe
futhi abavukile akulula ukubabusa. Lokhu

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kusebenza emhlabeni wonke; kusebenza yonke indawo.

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Unamazwi wokuvala afanele?

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Yebo, kakhulu kakhulu. Sifinyelele esigabeni somlando lapho wonke
umuntu engathembani nomunye, egweba abanye ngokuphelele

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futhi eselawulwa kangangokuba asisathembi ngisho
nemicabango yethu eqotho kakhulu. – Yilokho esifikile kukho. –

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I-Tribunal Yabantu ihloselwe ukuxazulula le nkinga eqhubekayo.

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Akubalulekile ukuthi uvuke, ukholelwa ohlelweni, ushintshwe
ngokwezofuzo, usekhohlo, usekunene, ubulili, ungumlesibiyane,

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usemncane, useludala noma yini enye. Okubalulekile
wukuthi kumele kwakhiwe ithuluzi eliyinhloko lokubuyisana ukuze

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zonke izinhlangothi zithole izwi futhi kulwe nobugebengu.

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Uma siqhubeka sihlukanisa omunye nomunye futhi sivumela
ukudideka, abenza ububi bazoqhubeka nje – siyazi lokhu – kuze

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kuphele impucuko yabantu noma umhlaba wethu
ubhujiswe. – Lesi yisibonelo esikhulu, kodwa sesisesendleleni

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eya lapho. – Lokhu akufanele kuvunyelwe ukwenzeka.

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Ekugcineni, ngithanda ukugcizelela futhi ukuthi inhlangano yethu
engenzi nzuzo ayihlosile ukubhidliza uhlelo, olusabalulekile,

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kodwa ihlose nje ukususa ngokusemthethweni bonke
izigebengu ezingene ngobuqili futhi zaphatha kabi izwe lethu.

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Ngithanda futhi ukuthatha leli thuba ukubonga ithimba
lami ngobekezelo lalo obungenamkhawulo kanye nabo bonke

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abantu abangeke bayeke kuze kube iqiniso liphumelele.

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Kuhle kakhulu, amazwi okuvala amahle.
Ngiyabonga ngaleso sitatimende esicacile.

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Ngakho-ke singabheke ngabomvu ukubona ukuthi kuzothatha
isikhathi esingakanani ukuthi i-NGO yakho entsha iqoqe

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iziginesha eziyi-100,000, noma amalungu adingekayo ngumthetho.

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Njengoba usuvele wachaza, ukuqoqwa kwenzeka
ngewebhusayithi yakho www.volkstribunal.ngo.

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Ngiyabonga ngokucacisa, futhi ngikufisela konke okuhle.

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Yebo, nawe futhi. Ngiyabonga ngokungivumela ukuba lapha.
