1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 2 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,625 Boemo ba Syria bo ntse bo mpefala. 3 00:00:02,625 --> 00:00:05,080 Empa USA e kena hokae ho sona? Russia e kena hokae ho sona? 4 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:09,280 Daniele Ganser o reng, mme Ernst Wolff, mohlala, o reng ka sena? 5 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:14,920 Dumelang bohle, lebitso la ka ke Krissy Rieger ho tsoa Rieger Consulting Investment Academy. 6 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:20,085 Mme ke a o bolella, ke na le dipolelo tse ngata haholo mona tse thehilweng bopaking. 7 00:00:20,085 --> 00:00:26,963 Kahoo, taba e 'ngoe le e 'ngoe e hlile e lokela ho hlalosetsoa batho hore ba utloisise boemo hantle hanyane, ba 8 00:00:26,963 --> 00:00:30,859 hlokomele likamano, 'me ba iketsetse maikutlo a bona ka eona. 9 00:00:30,859 --> 00:00:35,455 Ho tloha qetellong ya Pudungwana, boemo naheng ya Syria bo ntse bo mpefala. 10 00:00:35,455 --> 00:00:44,480 Mekgatlo ya marabele e ikarabella, mme haufinyane tjena e hapile metse e mmalwa; tlhaselo e ntse e tswela pele Damaseka. 11 00:00:44,480 --> 00:00:50,221 Jwale, ho na le ditlaleho tse fapaneng ka sena, kahoo motho a lokela ho ba le maikutlo afe ka sona? 12 00:00:50,221 --> 00:00:56,207 Ka hona, ke na le lipolelo tse fapaneng bakeng sa lona, tsa khale le tsa hona joale, tse 13 00:00:56,207 --> 00:00:59,455 tla hlakisa haholoanyane ka likamano tsena. 14 00:00:59,455 --> 00:01:05,721 Die Zeit e ngola: "Lebotho la Syria le phatlalatsa hore puso ya Assad e fedile – marabele a ka 15 00:01:05,721 --> 00:01:09,390 tlung ya borena ya Bashar al-Assad e Damaseka." 16 00:01:09,390 --> 00:01:16,267 Assad, mopresidente, bonyane mopresidente wa mehleng, empa ke tla le bolella tsohle ka seo hamorao. 17 00:01:16,267 --> 00:01:19,653 Ho thwe moetapele wa bohatelli o tlohile Syria. Ka hona, ke nako e fetileng. 18 00:01:19,653 --> 00:01:24,301 "Mmuso o itokiseditse ho nehelana ka puso," ho ngola Die Zeit. 19 00:01:24,301 --> 00:01:33,331 Motse-moholo wa Syria, Damascus, o wele matsohong a kopano ya marabele e etelletsweng pele ke 20 00:01:33,331 --> 00:01:38,233 sesole sa Maislamo sa HTS. Puso ya Assad e hlotsoe. 21 00:01:38,233 --> 00:01:45,498 Sena se phatlalalitsoe ka Sontaha, pele ke masole a bo-militia ka bo ona, mme nakoana ka mora moo ke sesole sa Syria. 22 00:01:45,498 --> 00:01:52,167 Moo hona joale o ka bonang livideo tse fapaneng tse hasanang ka potlako mecheng ea litaba tsa sechaba, tse bontšang sesole sa 23 00:01:52,167 --> 00:01:57,183 Syria se apara liaparo tsa baahi kapele-pele le ho leka ho tloha litoropong feela e le hore ba 24 00:01:57,183 --> 00:01:59,991 tsoe boemong boo ka hohle kamoo ba ka khonang. 25 00:01:59,991 --> 00:02:06,957 Ka mora matsatsi a seng makae, metse ya bohlokwa e kang Aleppo, Homs le Daraa e ile ya wela. 26 00:02:06,957 --> 00:02:09,796 Se etsahetseng moo ke potso e kholo. 27 00:02:09,796 --> 00:02:19,365 Kamora dilemo tsa seo ho ka thweng e bile ho se tswele pele ho hoholo ntweng ya lehae ya Syria, mekgatlo ya sesole ya Maislamo, 28 00:02:19,365 --> 00:02:27,202 kapa dihlopha tsa marabele jwalo ka ha di tsejwa, e ile ya qala tlhaselo e matla dibekeng tse mmalwa tse 29 00:02:27,202 --> 00:02:34,205 fetileng mme ka mora moo ya ketola mmuso wa hajwale wa Syria o neng o le tlasa puso ya Assad. 30 00:02:34,205 --> 00:02:40,698 Potso ea pele ke hore: Na ehlile e qalile e le ntoa ea lehae e tloaelehileng? Seo se bohlokoa haholo-holo. 31 00:02:40,698 --> 00:02:45,860 Ka mohlala, ha re sheba Ukraine: na e ne e le kannete kamoo e bonahalang kateng? 32 00:02:45,860 --> 00:02:48,549 Mme jwalo ka ha ke atisitse ho bolela pele: Tjhe, ho ne ho se jwalo. 33 00:02:48,549 --> 00:02:53,984 Mme jwalo ka ha ho le Syria, ho bonahala eka dintho ha di jwalo ka ha di hlahiswa ho rona. 34 00:02:53,984 --> 00:02:59,304 Leha ho le joalo, ntoa ea khale ea lehae e ne e tla ba bonyane baahi khahlanong le mmuso. Na ho ne ho le joalo? 35 00:02:59,304 --> 00:03:05,020 Mona ke na le polelo e tsoang ho Madelyn Hoffman, ea tsoang ho New Jersey Peace Action. 36 00:03:05,020 --> 00:03:14,304 Mme o re: "Ke bile moitseki wa kgotso ka dilemo tse 16 mme ka ya Syria ho ya iponela. Hona ha se ntwa ya lehae Syria." 37 00:03:14,304 --> 00:03:17,403 Re utlwile seo kgafetsa, empa ha se nnete. 38 00:03:17,403 --> 00:03:20,255 Ha re na qabang pakeng tsa Assad le batho ba hae. 39 00:03:20,255 --> 00:03:24,460 Assad o lwantsha bahlanka ba meputso le ditšhaba-le-morao ba tsheheditsweng ke dinaha di sele. 40 00:03:24,460 --> 00:03:30,333 Ho tswa Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, United States le Israel. 41 00:03:30,333 --> 00:03:35,982 Leha ho le jwalo, rona re le United States ha re na tokelo ya ho fetola mmuso wa Syria. 42 00:03:35,982 --> 00:03:41,900 Seo se thibetsoe. Re tlameha ho kgaotsa ho tshehetsa masole a hiriwang naheng ya Syria. 43 00:03:41,900 --> 00:03:46,764 Seo ka tlhaho se etsa hore boemo bohle bo bonahale ka tsela e fapaneng ka ho felletseng. Empa ha re tsweleng pele. 44 00:03:46,764 --> 00:03:54,785 Assad ke mang? Ha e le hantle, sengoliloeng sa Wikipedia se se se fetotsoe. Hona kajeno feela. Ho qabolang ke hore. 45 00:03:54,785 --> 00:04:01,215 Bashar Assad ke ralipolotiki oa Syria ea bileng Mopresidente oa Syria ho tloha ka 2000 ho fihlela ka 2024, ke 46 00:04:01,215 --> 00:04:07,152 hore, ho fihlela kajeno, 'me a busitse naha e le molaoli ea se nang khethollo. O se a fetohile. 47 00:04:07,152 --> 00:04:13,363 Assad ka boeena o itse le eena o ka thabela ho fumana thuso bakeng sa Bakreste, ba leng tlas'a tšokelo e matla. 48 00:04:13,363 --> 00:04:17,540 Hobane ho boetse ho na le ntoa ea bolumeli Syria. 49 00:04:17,540 --> 00:04:22,151 Mme mona, ka mohlala, koranta ena e bolela: "Bakreste ke bona bahlaselwa ba ka sehloohong. Palo ya Bakreste 50 00:04:22,151 --> 00:04:27,020 naheng ya Syria e ntse e fokotseha butle-butle. Setsebi sa Middle East, Matthias Kopp, o ferekana." 51 00:04:27,020 --> 00:04:30,697 Boemo ba bona ba hona joale Aleppo bo bobe haholo. 52 00:04:30,697 --> 00:04:39,096 Na o ne o tseba hore Syria e kile ya ba naha ya Bakreste ba bangata, empa jwale Bakreste ba bangata ba lelekilwe? 53 00:04:39,096 --> 00:04:47,638 Ho thwe ka 2019, ka mantsoe a mang ka nako e kgutshwane haholo, Bakreste ba ka bang 500,000 ba sa tswa tsamaya hape. 54 00:04:47,638 --> 00:04:56,007 Mme jwale, ha ke fositse, ho thwe peresente ya Bakreste ba ntseng ba phela Syria e pakeng tsa 8 le 10 lekgolong. 55 00:04:56,007 --> 00:05:02,455 Hape ho a khahla: moqolotsi oa litaba oa lipatlisiso ea ileng a boela a shebana le pale ea phaephe ea Nord Stream, 56 00:05:02,455 --> 00:05:07,986 moo a ileng a lahleheloa ke botumo ba hae, bonyane mecheng ea phatlalatso e ka sehloohong – Seymour Hersh. 57 00:05:07,986 --> 00:05:16,078 Mme o ile a re ka 2016: "Ka 2006, William Roebuck, ya neng a sebetsa Boemeding ba US Damasekoseng, o ile a 58 00:05:16,078 --> 00:05:24,320 kgothalletsa ho tsosa dikgohlano tsa bodumedi naheng ya Syria e le ho tlosa botsitso pusong ya Assad." 59 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:29,621 Phatlalatso e nngwe ya 2006 e bontsha hore Boemedi ba US bo ne bo sebedisitse didolara tse 60 00:05:29,621 --> 00:05:33,060 dimilione tse 5 ho tshehetsa ka ditjhelete bahanyetsi. 61 00:05:33,060 --> 00:05:36,820 Mona hape, potso ea hlaha: ho na le eng ka mora sena? 62 00:05:36,820 --> 00:05:40,580 Mme le mona, ho na le bankakarolo ba bangata ho feta kamoo re nahanang. 63 00:05:40,580 --> 00:05:47,963 Ho dula ho le jwalo – ha qabang e mpefala, o dula o nahana: Tjhe, taba ke feela ya batho le mmuso. 64 00:05:47,963 --> 00:05:56,340 Empa le mona, mohlala, Russia e kenetse, ha se US feela. Russia le yona e kenetse mona. Mme ba qosa US. 65 00:05:56,340 --> 00:06:02,869 Matona a tsa kantle a Russia, Turkey le Iran a kopane motsemoholo wa Qatar, Doha, ho 66 00:06:02,869 --> 00:06:06,272 buisana ka diphetoho tse potlakileng tsa Syria. 67 00:06:06,272 --> 00:06:13,821 Mme Lavrov wa Russia, Letona la tsa Kantle ho Naha la Russia, o tiiseditse Damascus hore Moscow e tla tswelapele 68 00:06:13,821 --> 00:06:18,592 ho tshehetsa sesole kgahlanong le tlhaselo ya bokhukhuni. 69 00:06:18,592 --> 00:06:27,520 Karolo ea Russia ke ho loantša lihlopha tsa bokhukhuni Syria. Leha ba re ha ba sa le bakhukhuni. 70 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:33,337 O qositse leano la mmuso wa US ka ho mpefala ha maemo mme a re hore batho ba Syria ba fetohile 71 00:06:33,337 --> 00:06:37,173 bahlaselwa ba teko e ntjha ya dipolotiki tsa lefatshe. 72 00:06:37,173 --> 00:06:45,600 Lebitsong la linaha tse tharo, o boetse a kopa hore ho be le dipuisano pakeng tsa mmuso wa Syria le bahlabani ba kganyetso. 73 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:53,078 Empa jwale ho bonahala eka Assad o tla lahlwa mme a ke ke a tshehetswa nako e telele. 74 00:06:53,078 --> 00:07:01,544 Le yona Iran, e bileng e tshepisitse tshehetso ya yona ho Assad, e se e ntšitse balaodi ba yona ba sesole le basebeletsi ba 75 00:07:01,544 --> 00:07:05,520 sesole naheng ya Syria, kapa bonyane e se e qalile ho ba ntša. 76 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:10,565 Kahoo ho bonahala eka tšehetso e nyametse ka ho feletseng, bonyane hajoale. 77 00:07:10,565 --> 00:07:18,000 Kahoo o ka bona hore le Russia e kenetse mona le hore ho na le bankakarolo ba bangata le ho feta ba kenang. 78 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:21,880 Mme o ka boela wa nahana hore maikutlo a Jeremane a ke ke a fapana haholo. 79 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:24,672 U ka bona se etsahalang Ukraine hona joale. 80 00:07:24,672 --> 00:07:30,804 Joale, Daniele Ganser o reng ka Syria? Ha re shebeng: 81 00:07:30,804 --> 00:07:35,182 2011, jwalo ka ha ke boletse, hape e le tlasa Obama le tlhaselo naheng ya Syria. Mona ke 82 00:07:35,182 --> 00:07:38,330 Syria, mme motse wa yona o moholo ke Damascus. 83 00:07:38,330 --> 00:07:43,782 Boemo ka nako eo e ne e le hore US e ne e batla ho ketola mopresidente wa Syria, Assad. 84 00:07:43,782 --> 00:07:47,120 Leha ho le jwalo, sena ha sea ka sa atleha. 85 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:51,796 Kahoo hanghang kamora ntwa ya Libya, ho ile ha tla ntwa ya Syria. 86 00:07:51,796 --> 00:07:57,856 Mme Assad ha a ka a ketolwa, leha Amerika e lekile. 87 00:07:57,856 --> 00:08:02,916 USA e ile ya qala ho qhomisa Syria ka 2014. 88 00:08:02,916 --> 00:08:07,386 Empa ba se ba kentse letsoho ka sephiri Syria ka 2011. 89 00:08:07,386 --> 00:08:15,252 Ho ya ka Ganser 2011, tlhaselo kgahlanong le Syria e ne e tsheheditswe bonyane ka sephiri ke USA. 90 00:08:15,252 --> 00:08:22,660 Mohlomong ba bang ba lona le lona le sa hopola qaleho ea ntoa ea lehae Syria ka 2011 kamorao ho Selemo sa Maarabo. 91 00:08:22,660 --> 00:08:29,405 Kahoo, Selemo sa Maarabo e ne e le letoto la maqhubu a boipelaetso a ileng a aparela 92 00:08:29,405 --> 00:08:33,631 linaha tsa Maarabo Afrika le Bochabela bo Hare. 93 00:08:33,631 --> 00:08:41,580 Eaba ho tla tlhaselo ea semmuso ka 2014. Mme mona ke na le puo ea Obama ea 2014. 94 00:08:41,580 --> 00:08:47,577 Mme yaba o re, qotsa: "Ba kgaotse ditloholo tsa baqolotsi ba babedi ba ditaba ba Maamerika ka sehlōhō." 95 00:08:47,577 --> 00:08:52,740 IS e beha batho ba Iraq le Syria kotsing. 96 00:08:52,740 --> 00:09:00,000 Ha ba sa tobane le bona, likhukhuni tsena li tla sokela sebaka sohle le United States. 97 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:06,461 Ntoeng e khahlanong le IS, re ke ke ra tšepa puso ea Assad, e tšosang batho ba eona. 98 00:09:06,461 --> 00:09:09,856 Mmuso ona o lahlehetswe ke tshepo. 99 00:09:09,856 --> 00:09:15,419 Mme mona hape ke na le sengolwa se setle sa kgale se reng: 100 00:09:15,419 --> 00:09:22,866 Qetellong! Obama o nka mehato e matla. Maobane bosiu, US e kentse letsoho ka molao ntweng ya Syria ka 101 00:09:22,866 --> 00:09:26,032 lekgetlo la pele. Ho toboketswe hore ke "ka molao". 102 00:09:26,032 --> 00:09:30,400 Pele, ho ne ho e-na le maikutlo a mang le litšitiso tse ling. 103 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:35,160 Le Russia e kentse letsoho mona, ka ho qala ho thunya Syria ka libomo ka 2015. 104 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:37,920 Kahoo e, re na le United States, e qalileng ho qhomisa. 105 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:43,380 Mme yaba le Russia e kena, le yona ya qala ho thunya ka dibomo ho thusa Assad. 106 00:09:43,380 --> 00:09:45,788 Hobane o ne a batla ho ba thusa ka litsela tse ling. 107 00:09:45,788 --> 00:09:48,020 Kahoo, o a bona, kamehla taba ke ka lithahasello. 108 00:09:48,020 --> 00:09:50,860 Batho ba dula ba re ke ka demokrasi, ke ka batho. 109 00:09:50,860 --> 00:09:53,939 Ehlile, taba ke ka batho, 'me ke ka lebaka leo re ba qhomisang. 110 00:09:53,939 --> 00:09:55,760 Hobane re batla ho ba sireletsa le ho ba lokolla. 111 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:59,320 Le hore ba tle ba kgethe ka demokrasi le tse ding jwalo. 112 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:02,912 Kahoo le USA e bile le seabo mona nako e telele. 113 00:10:02,912 --> 00:10:07,030 Mona hape re na le polelo e tsoang ho Robert Kennedy Junior. 114 00:10:07,030 --> 00:10:13,216 Mme ka 2016, o ile a re, qotsulo: "Ntoa ea Syria ke ntoa ea liphaephe." 115 00:10:13,216 --> 00:10:21,129 E qalile ka 2000, ha Qatar e phatlalatsa hore e tla haha phaephe ea khase ea tlhaho ea bolelele ba lik'hilomithara 116 00:10:21,129 --> 00:10:28,944 tse 1,500 ho pholletsa le Saudi Arabia, Jordan le Syria ho ea Turkey ka lidolara tse bilione tse 10. 117 00:10:28,944 --> 00:10:35,072 Turkey, re hopola, dipuisano, Russia, Turkey, Syria, jwalo ka ha ba boletse. 118 00:10:35,072 --> 00:10:42,695 Mme qetellong, ke na le dipolelo tse ding ho tswa ho Ernst Wolff mabapi le diketsahalo tsa ha jwale Syria. 119 00:10:42,695 --> 00:10:53,242 Mme o re, ka lehlakoreng le leng: "Ho tloha ka 2011, US e sebedisitse dibilione ho hlomella ditšhabatšhaba Syria." 120 00:10:53,242 --> 00:10:56,093 Ha se ketsahalo feela hore ba etse seteraeke hona joale. 121 00:10:56,093 --> 00:11:00,000 Seo se ka araba potso, hore na hobaneng hantle-ntle hona joale? 122 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:04,898 Ka pheletso e ka bang teng ea ntoa ea Ukraine e atamelang, indasteri ea libetsa ea US e 123 00:11:04,898 --> 00:11:08,020 hloka lebala le leng la ntoa le etsang phaello. 124 00:11:08,020 --> 00:11:12,280 O boetse o ngola: "Naheng ya Syria, ha se batho ba tsosang khahlanong le mmuso." 125 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:16,640 Seo se hokahana le qaleho. Moo ke o ileng ka botsa hore na ke ntoa ea lehae? 126 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:20,001 Na ke nnete kannete, kapa ho qalile jwalo? 127 00:11:20,001 --> 00:11:26,040 Mme mona o ngola: "Banyariwa ba nahanwang ke sehlahiswa sa dipolotiki tsa Amerika." 128 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:29,014 E tsheheditswe ka ditjhelete, e hlometswe mme e tsheheditswe ke USA. 129 00:11:29,014 --> 00:11:34,688 Sepheo ke ho fa Netanyahu, molekane ya ikokobeletseng wa US, tshusumetso e kgolo le ho feta Botjhabela bo Hare. 130 00:11:34,688 --> 00:11:40,445 Mme mona ho lokela ho bolelwa hore le yena Trump o boletse hore ha a sa tla thusa Assad, empa ho 131 00:11:40,445 --> 00:11:43,649 ena le hoo o tla tswelapele ka sena, ha re ka rialo. 132 00:11:43,649 --> 00:11:51,323 Ha e le hantle, qabang eohle e potileng Iseraele – a ke ke a tlisa khotso mona, empa ho e-na le hoo, ho hlakisitsoe haholo 133 00:11:51,323 --> 00:11:56,100 hore bonyane o tla tšehetsa taba eohle e khahlanong le Iran. 134 00:11:56,100 --> 00:12:03,826 Mme jwale, ka mokgwa o kgahlang, Mopresidente wa mehleng Assad o hlile o reng ka sena? 135 00:12:03,826 --> 00:12:10,024 Ka 2016, o ile a bua tse latelang, tse tsamaelanang le sehlooho sena kaofela. 136 00:12:10,024 --> 00:12:17,068 SRF e tlaleha: "Na o nka e le leshano hore lefatshe le o bona e le senokoane sa ntwa?" 137 00:12:17,068 --> 00:12:25,680 Mme o re: "Jwaloka mopresidente, ke sireletsa naha ya ka kgahlanong le ditšhaba-le-morao tse hlasetseng Syria." 138 00:12:25,680 --> 00:12:28,240 Batho ba latelang ba lokela ho qosoa e le litlokotsebe tsa ntoa: 139 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:34,500 1. George Bush o hlasetse Iraq ntle le tumello e tswang ho Lekgotla la Tshireletso la Machaba a Kopaneng. 140 00:12:34,500 --> 00:12:42,963 2. Cameron le Sarkozy, ba hlasetseng Libya ntle le tumello ya Lekgotla la Tshireletso mme ba senya naha. 141 00:12:42,963 --> 00:12:49,781 3. Baetapele ba Bophirimela ba tsheheditseng meraba ya bokhukhuni Syria dilemong tse hlano tse fetileng mme ba 142 00:12:49,781 --> 00:12:53,600 behile kganelo ya thepa e bolaitseng baahi ba dikete Syria. 143 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:57,960 Bophirimela e batla ho mphethola. Ke maikutlo ana. 144 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:01,820 Joale ha o sa tlameha ho re, 'oho, ke yena ya molemo' kapa 'baa ke ba bang ba lokileng', ba batla 145 00:13:01,820 --> 00:13:04,233 tshebetso kapa o ne a batla feela se molemo ka ho fetisisa. 146 00:13:04,233 --> 00:13:10,031 Ha e le hantle, ho tlameha ho bolelwe hore toka ya setjhaba lefatsheng ka bophara e abuwe ka mokgwa o sa 147 00:13:10,031 --> 00:13:15,520 lekalekaneng haholo, hoo ho totobetseng hore na bongata ba batho lefatsheng bo phela hampe hakae. 148 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:23,580 Ha o ka supa ka monwana naheng ya Jeremane hona jwale, hobane, ehlile, ho na le batho ba bangata ba phelang hampe ho feta. 149 00:13:23,580 --> 00:13:28,580 Sena ha se bolele hore mahlomola ana a lokela ho nkuoa e le ntho e sa reng letho. 150 00:13:28,580 --> 00:13:33,320 Empa seo u se bonang ke toka ea sechaba, e sa kang ea khahla mang kapa mang. 151 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:37,460 Hore toka kapa puso ea sechaba ea 'nete e be teng. 152 00:13:37,460 --> 00:13:41,260 Kamehla ke re re phela demokerasing ea bohata. Hobaneng? 153 00:13:41,260 --> 00:13:48,320 Lilemo tse seng kae ka seng, o koptjoa ho tšoaea lebokoseng, 'me tšoao ena ha e na tšusumetso ho hang bokamosong. 154 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:54,243 Hobane sefapano sena se senyenyane se bolela feela seo bohle ba se tsebang, eya, litšepiso li ile tsa tlolwa. 155 00:13:54,243 --> 00:13:59,295 Boradipolotiki ha baa phetha tšepiso ea bona. Ba mpa ba fetotse maikutlo ka ho feletseng ntle le ho hlalosa letho. 156 00:13:59,295 --> 00:14:01,690 Jwalokaha jwale re bone ka ho hlaka ka Mokgatlo wa Botala, mohlala. 157 00:14:01,690 --> 00:14:07,685 Bakgethi ba ba kgethile hobane ba ne ba tshepisitse sena le sele, mme qetellong ha eba le ntwa le thepa ya 158 00:14:07,685 --> 00:14:13,536 dibetsa e romelwang, haholoholo dinaheng tse ding, e leng ntho eo pele e neng e ba halefisa haholo. 159 00:14:13,536 --> 00:14:19,740 Mme ke ka lebaka lena hantle ke ntseng ke bua ka demokerasi ya bohata, hobane ha e tsamaisane le demokerasi. 160 00:14:19,740 --> 00:14:22,050 Demokrasi e bolela hore matla a tswa ho batho. 161 00:14:22,050 --> 00:14:27,600 Sena se bolela hore batho ba lokela ho dula ba na le matla le ho etsa diqeto. 162 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:33,483 Jwale, nka re, pono e tswang hodimo ke hore batho ba bangata ha ba na tsebo ho hang. 163 00:14:33,483 --> 00:14:38,289 Mme ha ke batle ho hanyetsa ka ho feletseng, hobane batho ba bangata ba laolwa ka ho feletseng. 164 00:14:38,289 --> 00:14:40,920 Empa hape ke sona hantle seo tsamaiso e se batlang. 165 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:46,130 Thuto e se e le mahlomola ka ho feletseng, ebe o dula o thetswa ka nako tsohle. 166 00:14:46,130 --> 00:14:51,897 Ebe o ba le maikutlo a khelohileng a hore o nahana hore ka tsela e itseng o nepile kapa o tseba ntho e 'ngoe le e 'ngoe hamolemo, 167 00:14:51,897 --> 00:14:54,180 leha o sa itlhahisa kapa o sa etsa lipatlisiso ho hang. 168 00:14:54,180 --> 00:15:01,112 Ka hona, se ke u se fang mona sepheo sa sona feela ke ho u khothatsa hore u be bulehile maikutlong a 169 00:15:01,112 --> 00:15:07,515 mang, hore u se ke ua potlakela ho etsa qeto, empa u nahane ka seo u hlileng u se lumelang. 170 00:15:07,515 --> 00:15:10,028 Ke bolelloa ntho e 'ngoe mona, e 'ngoe mane. 171 00:15:10,028 --> 00:15:13,780 Ha kea lokela ho ba manganga ka maikutlo a ka. Ke tlameha ho lula ke buletsoe monyetla oa hore lintho li fapane ka 172 00:15:13,780 --> 00:15:15,940 ho feletseng le seo nka 'nang ka etsoa hore ke se lumele. 173 00:15:15,940 --> 00:15:19,040 Ka hona, ka kopo ikutloe u lokolohile ho nngolla ka tlhahisoleseding ya hao 174 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:21,135 mabapi le boemo ba ha jwale naheng ya Syria. 175 00:15:21,135 --> 00:15:24,208 Mme re tla le bona videong e latelang, ehlile. Sala hantle!