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Isimo eSyria siyaqhubeka nokwanda.

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Kodwa i-USA ihlobene nakho kanjani?
Kodwa iRussia ihlobene nakho kanjani?

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UDaniele Ganser uthini, futhi
u-Ernst Wolff, isibonelo, uthini ngalokhu?

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Sawubona nonke, igama lami nginguKrissy Rieger
evela eRieger Consulting Investment Academy.

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Futhi ngikutshela, nginamazitatimende
amaningi kakhulu lapha asuselwe obufakazini.

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Ngakho-ke konke kumele kudluliselwe ukuze abantu
baqonde isimo kangcono kancane, babone

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izixhumanisi futhi bazakhele umbono wabo ngempela ngalokhu.

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Kusukela ekupheleni kukaNovemba,
isimo eSyria siqhubeka siba sibi kakhulu.

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Amaqembu abaphikisi anomthwalo wemfanelo, futhi muva nje
bathathe amadolobha ambalwa; ukuhlasela kuyaqhubeka eDamascus.

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Manje, kunezindaba ezahlukene ngalokhu,
ngakho-ke umuntu kufanele acabange ukuthini ngalokhu?

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Ngakho-ke, nginamazitatimende ahlukahlukene
ngawe, kuhlanganisa lawo adlule nalawa wamanje,

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azokunikeza ukukhanya okwengeziwe kulezi zixhumanisi.

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I-Die Zeit ibhala: "Ibutho laseSyria limemezela
ukuthi umbuso ka-Assad usuqediwe – abavukela-mbuso

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basendlini yobukhosi bukaBashar al-Assad eDamascus."

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Assad, umongameli, okungenani
owayengumongameli, kodwa ngizokutshela konke ngalokho kamuva.

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Kuthiwa umbusi oqinile ushiye
iSyria. Ngakho-ke, isikhathi esidlule.

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Uhulumeni ulungele ukudlulisela amandla, kubhala i-Die Zeit.

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I-Damascus, inhloko-dolobha yaseSyria, iwele ezandleni
zenhlangano yabavukela-mbuso eholwa yi-militia

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yamaSulumane i-HTS. Uhlelo luka-Assad luye lwaphonswa phansi.

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Lokhu kwamenyezelwa ngeSonto, kuqala ngabazibambi bezempi
uqobo, kwathi kamuva kancane kwamenyezelwa yibutho laseSyria.

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Manje ungabona amavidiyo ahlukahlukene asabalala ezinkundleni
zokuxhumana ekhombisa ibutho laseSyria lishintsha

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ngokushesha izingubo libe yizakhamuzi futhi lizama nje ukushiya
amadolobha ukuze liphume kulesi simo ngangokunokwenzeka.

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Phakathi nezinsuku ezimbalwa, amadolobha
abalulekile afana ne-Aleppo, i-Homs ne-Daraa awehla.

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Okwenzekile lapho kuyimbuzo enkulu.

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Ngemva kweminyaka yokuma okungashintshi okukhulu empini yombango
eSyria, amaqembu ezempi amaSulumane, noma amaqembu

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abavukela-mbuso njengoba aziwa, aqalise ukuhlasela
okukhulu emasontweni ambalwa edlule futhi kamuva

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bawisa uhulumeni wamanje waseSyria owawuphansi kuka-Assad.

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Umbuzo wokuqala: Ingabe kwaqala ngempela njengempi
yombango yendabuko? Lokho kubaluleke kakhulu kakhulu.

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Isibonelo, uma sibheka i-Ukraine: Ingabe
empeleni yayinjalo njengoba ibonakala?

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Futhi njengoba ngivame ukusho
ngaphambilini: Cha, bekungekho kanjalo.

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Futhi njengaseSyria, kubonakala sengathi
izinto azinjalo njengoba zivezwa kithi.

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Noma kunjalo, impi yombango yendabuko okungenani
ibe ngabantu abakhahlela uhulumeni. Ingabe bekunjalo?

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Nansi isitatimende sikaMadelyn
Hoffman, ovela eNew Jersey Peace Action.

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Uthi: "Sengiyimkhankaseli wokuthula iminyaka
engu-16 futhi ngaya eSyria ukuze ngibone

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ngokwami. Lena akuyona impi yombango eSyria."

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Sesikuzwile kaningi, kodwa akulona iqiniso.

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Asinankinga phakathi kuka-Assad nabantu bakhe.

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U-Assad ulwa namaqashwayo
nabahlaseli abaxhaswa ngamazwe angaphandle.

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Eqatar, eSaudi Arabia, eTurkey, e-United States nase-Israel.

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Nokho, thina njenge-United States asinalo
ilungelo lokwenza ushintsho lukahulumeni eSyria.

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Lokho akuvunyelwe. Kumele siyeke ukusekela izishoshovu eSyria.

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Lokho ngokwemvelo kubeka yonke imeko
ekukhanyeni okuhlukile ngokuphelele. Kodwa ake siqhubeke.

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Ungubani u-Assad? Eqinisweni, okungena ku-Wikipedia
sekushintshiwe. Namuhla nje, empeleni. Kuyahlekisa.

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UBashar Assad ungusopolitiki waseSyria owaba uMongameli waseSyria
kusukela ngo-2000 kuya ku-2024, okusho ukuthi kuze kube

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namuhla, futhi wabusa izwe njengombusi oqinile. Sekushintshile.

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U-Assad uqobo wathi naye angathanda
ukuthola usizo kwamaKristu abasongelwa kakhulu.

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Ngoba kukhona futhi impi yenkolo eSyria.

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Futhi lapha, isibonelo, iphephandaba lithi: "AmaKristu yibo
abahlaselwa kakhulu. Inani lamaKristu eSyria

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liyaqhubeka nokwehla, kusho ngokudabuka
uchwepheshe weMpumalanga Ephakathi uMatthias Kopp."

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Isimo sabo samanje e-Aleppo sibi kakhulu.

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Uyazi ukuthi iSyria yayingowamaKristu
ngokuyinhloko, kodwa manje iningi lamaKristu selixoshwe?

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Kuthiwa ngo-2019, ngamanye amazwi
kungakapheli isikhathi esifushane kakhulu, cishe

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amaKristu angama-500,000 asanda ukuphinda ashiye.

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Manje-ke, uma ngingaphutha, kuthiwa iphesenti
lamaKristu asahlala eSyria liphakathi kuka-8 no-10.

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Futhi kuyathakazelisa: intatheli yezophenyo eyashintsha ukunaka
kwayo yaya endabeni yomgudu we-Nord Stream,

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lapho-ke cishe yalahlekelwa yidumela layo, okungenani
emithonjeni yezindaba eyinhloko – uSeymour Hersh.

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Wathi ngo-2016: "Ngo-2006, uWilliam Roebuck, owayesebenza
e-Ambhasi yase-United States eDamascus,

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waphakamisa ukushukumisela ukungezwani kwezenkolo
eSyria ngenhloso yokudala ukungazinzi kuka-Assad."

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Enye incwadi ethunyelwe ngo-2006 ikhombisa
ukuthi i-Ambhasi yase-United States yayichithe

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izigidi ezinhlanu zamadola ekuxhaseni abaphikisi.

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Lapha futhi, kuvela umbuzo: yini engemuva kwalokhu?

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Futhi lapha, kunezidlali eziningi
ezibandakanyekayo kunalokho esikucabangayo.

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Kuhlala kuyinto efanayo – lapho kungqubuzana kuyanda,
uhlale ucabanga: kahle, kukhuluma kuphela ngabantu nohulumeni.

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Kodwa lapha futhi, isibonelo, iRussia nayo
ibandakanyekile, hhayi i-US kuphela. Futhi bayasola i-US.

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Abaphathiswa bezangaphandle baseRussia, eTurkey
nase-Iran bahlangana enhloko-dolobha yaseQatar,

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eDoha, ukuze baxoxe ngentuthuko esheshayo eSyria.

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Futhi uLavrov waseRussia, uNgqongqoshe Wezangaphandle
waseRussia, waqinisekisa iDamascus ukuthi iMoscow

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izoqhubeka isekela ibutho ekulweni nokuhlaselwa ngabaterroristi.

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Indima yaseRussia ukulwa namaqembu abaphangi
eSyria. Noma ngabe bathi abasaseyona abaphangi.

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Wamsola inqubomgomo kahulumeni wase-United States
ngokunyuka kwesimo wathi abantu baseSyria

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sebephenduke izisulu zokuhlolwa okusha kwezepolitiki yomhlaba.

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Egameni lamazwe amathathu, waphinde wabiza ingxoxo
phakathi kukahulumeni waseSyria nabalwi abaphikisayo.

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Kodwa manje kubonakala sengathi u-Assad
uzoshiywa futhi angeke asekelwe isikhathi eside.

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Ngisho ne-Iran, eyazibophezela ekusekeleni
u-Assad, isuse abaphathi bezempi kanye nabasebenzi bayo

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baseSyria, noma okungenani isiqalile ukubakhipha.

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Ngakho-ke kubonakala sengathi ukwesekwa
sekunyamalale ngokuphelele, okungenani okwamanje.

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Ngakho-ke ungabona ukuthi neRussia nayo ibandakanyekile lapha
futhi abadlali abaningi kakhulu sebeyaqhubeka nokuzibandakanya.

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Futhi ungacabanga ukuthi umbono
waseJalimane ngeke ube kude nalokho.

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Ungabona okwenzekayo e-Ukraine njengamanje.

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Ngakho-ke, uDaniele Ganser uthini ngeSyria? Ake sibheke:

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2011, njengoba ngishilo, nayo yayingaphansi
kuka-Obama futhi kwaba nokuhlasela eSyria.

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Nansi iSyria nenhloko-dolobha yayo iDamascus.

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Isimo ngaleso sikhathi kwakuwukuthi i-US yayifuna ukumphusha
umongameli waseSyria, u-Assad. Nokho, lokhu akuzange kuphumelele.

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Ngakho-ke ngokushesha ngemva
kwempi eLibya kwalandela impi eSyria.

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Futhi u-Assad akazange athathelwe amandla, yize i-US yazama.

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I-USA-ke yaqala ukudubula iSyria ngo-2014.

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Kodwa sebengene ngokuyimfihlo eSyria ngo-2011.

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Ngokusho kukaGanser ngo-2011, ukuhlasela
eSyria kwakuxhaswa okungenani ngokuyimfihlo yi-USA.

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Mhlawumbe abanye kini niyakhumbula ukuqala kwempi
yombango eSyria ngo-2011 ngemva kwe-Arab Spring.

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Ngakho-ke, i-Arab Spring kwakuyisizini yamagagasi okuvukela
okwadlula emazweni ama-Arab e-Afrika naseMpumalanga Ephakathi.

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Kwabe sekuza ukuhlasela okusemthethweni ngo-2014. Futhi
lapha ngempela nginokukhuluma kuka-Obama okwango-2014.

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Wabe esethi, "Bahlabela
ngokubhaxa abezindaba ababili baseMelika."

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I-IS ibeka insongo kubantu base-Iraq nase-Syria.

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Uma bengabhekanga ubuso nobuso, laba bahlaseli
bazosongela yonke indawo kanye ne-United States.

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Ekulweni ne-IS, asikwazi ukuthembela
kuhulumeni ka-Assad, owesabisa abantu bakhe.

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Lolu hlelo selulahlekelwe ubufanele balo.

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Futhi lapha nginendatshana endala enhle ethi:

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Ekugcineni! U-Obama uthatha izinyathelo eziqinile. Izolo
ebusuku, i-US ingenelele ngokusemthethweni empini yaseSyria

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okokuqala. Kugcizelelwa igama elithi "ngokusemthethweni".

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Ngaphambilini, kwakukhona ezinye izimvo nezinye iziphazamiso.

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IRashiya nayo ibe nengxenye lapha,
yaqala ukudubula iSyria ngo-2015.

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Ngakho yebo, sine-United States, eyayiqala ukudubula ngamabhomu.

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Kwathi-ke iRussia nayo yahlanganyela,
yaqala nokubhomba ukuze isize u-Assad.

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Ngoba wayefuna ukubasiza ngezindlela ezahlukene.

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Ngakho-ke, uyabona, kuhlale kuyindaba yezintshisekelo.

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Abantu bahlala bethi kumayelana
nentando yeningi, kumayelana nabantu.

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Impela, kukhuluma ngabantu, yingakho sibabhubhisa ngamabhomu.

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Ngoba sifuna ukuwavikela nokuwakhulula.

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Futhi ukuze bakwazi-ke ukuvota
ngendlela yedemokhrasi nokunye okunjalo.

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Ngakho-ke i-USA nayo ibe nengxenye lapha isikhathi eside.

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Lapha siphinde sibe nesitatimende sikaRobert Kennedy Junior.

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Futhi ngo-2016, wathi, "Impi eSyria iyi mpini yemibhobho."

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Kwaqala ngo-2000, lapho iQatar imemezela ukuthi izokwakha ipayipi
yegesi yemvelo elinganiselwa kumakhilomitha angu-1

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500 edlula eSaudi Arabia, eJordan naseSyria iye
eTurkey ngenani lamadola ayizigidigidi eziyishumi.

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I-Turkey, siyakhumbula, izingxoxo,
iRussia, iTurkey, iSyria, njengoba bekushiwo.

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Ekugcineni, nginamazwi avela ku-Ernst
Wolff mayelana nezenzakalo zamanje eSyria.

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Futhi uthi, ngakolunye uhlangothi: "Kusukela ngo-2011, i-US
isichithe izigidigidi ekunikezeni izikhali kubahlaseli eSyria."

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Akuyona ingozi ukuthi basenza isiteleka manje.

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Lokho kungase kuphendule umbuzo wokuthi kungani ngempela manje?

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Njengoba sekubonakala sengathi impi e-Ukraine
isondela ekupheleni, imboni yezikhali

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yase-US idinga enye inkundla yempi engenisa inzuzo.

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Uphinde abhale: "eSyria, akuyona
abantu abaphakama bebhekene nohulumeni."

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Lokho kuhambisana nasekuqaleni. Lapho
ngakutshela khona, ingabe kuwempi yombango?

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Ingabe kuyiqiniso ngempela, noma kwaqala kanjalo?

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Futhi lapha ubhala: "Abacatshangwa
njengabavukeli bayimikhiqizo yenqubomgomo yaseMelika."

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Exhaswa ngemali, exhaswa ngezikhali futhi exhaswa yi-USA.

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Inhloso ukunika uNetanyahu, isigqila sase-US,
ithonya elikhulu nakakhulu eMpumalanga Ephakathi.

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Futhi lapha kufanele ngempela kushiwo ukuthi ngisho
uTrump usho ukuthi ngeke asize u-Assad manje, kodwa

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esikhundleni salokho uzoqhubeka nalokhu, ngokuthi.

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Ngokuyisisekelo, yonke ingxabano ephathelene no-Israyeli –
ngeke alethe ukuthula lapha, kodwa kwacaca kakhulu ukuthi

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yena uzosekela konke lokhu okuqondiswe e-Iran, okungenani.

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Manje-ke, ngokuthakazelisayo, uMongameli
wangaphambilini u-Assad uthini ngempela ngalokhu?

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Ngo-2016, wathi okulandelayo, okungahambisana nendaba yonke.

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I-SRF ibika: "Uyibheka njengamanga ukuthi
umhlaba ukubona njengomsolwa wobugebengu bempi?"

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Futhi uthi: "Njengomongameli, ngivikela izwe lami kubantu
abanobugebengu abangenele eSyria bemele amanye amazwe."

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Laba abalandelayo kufanele babekwe icala lokuba izigebengu zempi:

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1. UGeorge Bush wahlasela i-Iraq ngaphandle kwemvume
evela eKhanselini Lezokuphepha LeZizwe Ezihlangene.

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2. uCameron noSarkozy, abahlasele iLibya ngaphandle
kwemvume yeBhodi Lezokuphepha futhi babhubhisa izwe.

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3. Abaholi baseNtshonalanga abasekele izihlabani
eSyria eminyakeni emihlanu edlule futhi bafaka

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ukuvinjelwa okubulale izinkulungwane zabantu abavamile eSyria.

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"iNtshonalanga ifuna ukungisusa esikhundleni." Lo ngumbono.

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Manje awudingi ukusho, "oh, lowo ngumuntu
omuhle" noma "labo bangabantu abahle", bafuna

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ukuhleleka noma wayefuna nje ukwenza okuhle.

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Ngokuyisisekelo, kumele kushiwo ukuthi ubulungisa bomphakathi
emhlabeni wonke busatshalaliswe ngokungalingani

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kangangokuba kuyabonakala kahle ukuthi iningi
labantu emhlabeni lonke lisenhluphekweni enkulu.

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Awukwazi ngempela ukukhomba umunwe eJalimane okwamanje,
ngoba, kunjalo, kunabantu abaningi abasenkingeni enkulu.

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Okungasho ukuthi lobu buhlungu kufanele
buncishiswe ukubaluleka ngandlela thile.

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Kodwa okubona wukubulungisa
komphakathi, okungakaze kuthakazelise muntu.

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Ukulunga noma ubulungisa noma
idemokhrasi yangempela kufanele kube khona.

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Ngihlala ngithi siphila e-demokhrasini yobuqili. Kungani?

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Njalo eminyakeni embalwa, uyacelwa ukuthi
uphawule ibhokisi, futhi lokhu akuthinti nhlobo ikusasa.

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Ngoba leli phawu elincane nje lisho ukuthi-ke kuzoba
yilokho wonke umuntu akwaziyo, ah, izithembiso seziphukile.

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Abazombusazwe abazigcinanga izethembiso
zabo. Abazombusazwe benza nje ukuguqula umqondo

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ngokuphelele ngaphandle kokunye okwengeziwe.

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Njengoba manje sesibonile ngokusobala neGreen Party, isibonelo.

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Abavoti babakhethe ngoba bathembise lokhu nalokho, futhi
ekugcineni kwaba nempi nokulethwa kwezikhali, ikakhulukazi

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kwamanye amazwe, okwakuyisibonakaliso sokucasuka kubo.

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Futhi yilokho ngempela okwenza ngihlale ngikhuluma
ngedemokhrasi engamanga, ngoba ayihambisani nendemokhrasi.

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Idemokhrasi isho ukuthi amandla avela kubantu.

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Lokhu kusho ukuthi abantu kufanele
bahlale benamandla futhi benze izinqumo.

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Manje, ngithi umbono osuka phezulu
uwukuthi iningi labantu alinayo nhlobo imibono.

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Futhi angifuni ukuphikisana ngokuphelele, ngoba iningi labantu
liyadlalwa ngokuphelele. Kodwa yilokho kanye uhlelo olufunayo.

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Imfundo isivele imbi ngokuphelele, futhi
uhlale ulawulwa ngaso sonke isikhathi.

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Futhi-ke unombono ogobile wokuthi ucabanga ukuthi
ngandlela thile ulungile noma uyazi konke kangcono, nakuba

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ungazazisi kahle futhi awukaze wenze noma yiluphi ucwaningo.

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Ngakho-ke, okuqukethwe engikunikeze lapha kusebenza kuphela
ukukukhuthaza ukuthi ube nesivumelwano nemibono

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yabanye, ukuvumela ukuthi kungene engqondweni
yakho futhi ucabangele lokho okukholelwa ngempela.

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Ngitshelwa okuthile lapha nokunye lapho.

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Angifanele ngibe nqikazi emibonweni yami. Kufanele
ngihlale ngivulekile ekutheni izinto zingaba

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ngokuphelele ezehlukile kunalokho engingaholwa ukukukholwa.

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Ngakho-ke, ngiyacela uzizwe ukhululekile
ukungibhalela ulwazi lwakho ngesimo samanje eSyria.

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Sizobonana ku-vidiyo elandelayo, impela. Sala kahle!