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Ukususela ngo-2014 ukuya ku-2021, iSwitzerland
ibithetha-thethana ne-EU ngesivumelwano

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esisisiseko, esikwaziwa njengeSivumelwano Seziko (InstA).

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Oku kungenjongo yokuqinisa indlela
yentsebenziswano phakathi kwamaqela amabini.

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Emva kokuba iingxoxo zasilela ngoMeyi 2021,
iintetho ne-EU ziqalise kwakhona ngoMatshi 2024.

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UThomas Kaiser waseZeitgeschehen im Fokus ubhala ukuba isiseko
somgaqo-siseko sangoku – ekuthiwa yingqondozana –

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asisakwazi ukubizwa ngokuba sisivumelwano
esisisigqeba, kuba kungenjalo besiya kususwa kwangoko.

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Ngoko ke yathiywa ngokutsha ngokukhawuleza
"iZivumelwano eziPhakathi kwamaCalana oMabini III".

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Ngokophononongo lwakutsha nje, uninzi lwabemi luyayixhasa
indlela yentsebenziswano phakathi kwamacala amabini, ngoko ke

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kubonakala ngathi isicwangciso seBhunga leFederal siyaphumelela.

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Kodwa oku kukuphosa umhlaba emehlweni abantu nje.

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NgokukaKaiser, inyani yeyokuba i-EU
inezimfuno ezifanayo kwi-Common Understanding

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njengoko yayinazo kwisivumelwano esisisiseko.

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Ifuna ukuba, xa kukho ukungavisisani malunga nokutolikwa
kwezivumelwano phakathi kwamazwe amabini, iNkundla

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yaseYurophu yoBulungisa ibe yiyo efumanisa isigqibo sokugqibela.

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UKaiser uthi: "Ngolwimi olucacileyo, oku
kuthetha ukuba umthetho we-EU uyasebenza."

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ISwitzerland ke ngoko kufuneka yamkele
ngokuzenzekelayo umthetho we-EU, okubhekiselwa kuwo

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ngokufihlakeleyo njengo 'kwakhiwa ngokuzenzekelayo komthetho'.

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Kodwa akukho nto ishukumayo ngale nto;
iSwitzerland ayinandawo yokuphuncuka.

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UMphathiswa Wezangaphandle uIgnazio Cassis uthethe
namajelo eendaba eBern ngomhla wama-27 kuNovemba 2024.

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Intlanganiso noSekela-Mongameli weKomishoni
yaseYurophu, uMaros Sefcovic, ibikufuphi.

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NgokukaCassis, injongo isekukufikelela kwisigqibo
esibalulekileyo kwiingxoxo phambi kokuphela kwalo nyaka.

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Isixa-mali somnikelo wobumbano iSwitzerland eza
kusihlawula kwi-EU ngenxa yokufikelela kwayo okungaphelelanga

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kwimarike enye yaseYurophu siza kuxoxwa kuphela ekugqibeleni.

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"Singathetha ngemali ekugqibeleni," watsho uCassis.

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Ngokophando lweSwiss Radio and Television (SRF), iSwitzerland
kunokwenzeka ukuba ihlawule i-EU malunga

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ne-350 lezigidi zefranki zaseSwitzerland ngonyaka
kwiingxowa-mali zokumanyana kwixesha elizayo.

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Oku kuphezulu kakhulu kune-130 lezigidi malunga
nonyaka iSwitzerland ekuye yahlawula ukuza kuthi

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ga ngoku kumazwe ahlwempuzekileyo asempuma ye-EU.

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Kwinqaku elipapashwe kwiphephandaba
laseSwitzerland i-BLICK ngomhla woku-1 kuDisemba

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2024, kucatshulwe umntu ongaphakathi esithi:

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Nokuba ayizalisekanga yonke ingongoma yomyalelo
wothethathethwano, kunokuthiwa: sinesivumelwano.

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Kucacile kuBern nakwaseBrussels ukuba
"sithetheta-thethane ngokwaneleyo; okuseleyo

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kufuneka kusonjululwe ngaphakathi elizweni."

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Ngokutsho kwe-BLICK, le jadwalithi ilandelayo yayicwangcisiwe:

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Ngomhla we-13 kuDisemba, iBhunga
leFederal liza kuphinda lixoxe ngedossier ye-EU.

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Ukuba unika imvume, kuza kubakho ukukhanya kweekhamera okuninzi
ngoMgqibelo phambi kweKrisimesi, umhla wama-21 kuDisemba:

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Emva koko uMongameli weKomishoni yaseYurophu,
u-Ursula von der Leyen, uza kuza eBern ngokwakhe

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ukuze aqinisekise isiphelo esingumfuziselo seentetho.

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Ngokwenqaku elipapashwe yi-SRF ngomhla we-11
kuDisemba, le mvakalelo ivakaliswa eBrussels naseBern.

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Ngokutsho kwe-BLICK, akukho nto 'esele igqityiwe'
okwangoku, kodwa zininzi iimpawu ezibonisa ukuba

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isivumelwano ne-EU siza kugqitywa ngexesha leKrisimesi.

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Ngexesha leKrisimesi?! – Xa uluntu luphithizelisa
kwezinye izinto?! Ingaba oku kungenzelwa ukuba

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isivumelwano ne-EU siqhubeke ngaphandle kwesikhalo esikhulu?

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Kude kube ngoku, bekusoloko kukho isikhalo esikhulu esichasene
nesivumelwano esisisiseko ne-EU. Iingxoxo

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zokugqibela kuye kwanyanzeleka ukuba
zinqutshwe ngenxa yokuba inkcaso ibikhulu kakhulu.

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Ayizukuba kokokuqala kwimbali ukuba izigqibo ezibalulekileyo
zityhalelwe phambili ngamaxesha abantu abaxakeke kwezinye izinto.

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Ngomhla wama-23 kuDisemba 1913, usuku olunye phambi kweVele
kaKhisimusi, isilungiso sokumisa i-FED saphoswa ngaphandle

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kokuqwalaselwa yiNkongolo eyayiphelelwe kakhulu ngamandla.

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Ngethuba 'lentsomi yasehlotyeni' yeNdebe yeHlabathi ka-2006,
iJamani yagqiba ekubeni inyuse i-VAT isuka kwi-16 isiya kwi-19

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pesenti, kuqala ukusebenza ngomhla woku-1 kuJanuwari 2007.

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Imizekelo engakumbi inokufunyanwa kwinkqubo ethi "Ingaba iziganeko
ezikhulu zisetyenziswa ngabom njengeendlela zokuphazamisa?"

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Ekugqibeleni, bukela uCeba weSizwe waseSwitzerland uFranz Grüter
ecacisa kudliwanondlebe nesikhululo sikamabonakude

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se-intanethi esizimeleyo saseSwitzerland i-"HOCH2" ukuba
kutheni isivumelwano esitsha sesakhelo siyingozi kakhulu.

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Usandul' ukukhankanya ngokufutshane isivumelwano
esisisiseko iBhunga leFederal elifuna ukusigqibezela ne-EU.

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Ngoko ke luhlobo lwesivumelwano esiphakamileyo, esikwabizwa
ngokuba yi-"Bilateral III", kodwa asizizo izivumelwano zomntu

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ngamnye, yiphakheji epheleleyo, esithiwa sisisombululo seziko.

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Injongo ibikukuba isivumelwano sixoxwe ngaphambi kokuphela
konyaka. Njengengcali yomgaqo-nkqubo wangaphandle,

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kwaye nangayiphi na imeko, njengelungu leBhunga
leSizwe, unendima ebalulekileyo kulo mgawulo-nkqubo.

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Uva ntoni? Imi phi le ntetho?

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Ewe, ndingatsho ukuba iBhunga leManyano
lingathanda ukuqukumbela ezi ngxoxo ngokuphela konyaka.

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Kubalulekile: igama elithi "Bilateral III" – i-EU
ibeka umxholo omkhulu kwinto yokuba ezi azisezisozivumelwano

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phakathi kwamazwe amabini, kuba azisekho njalo.

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Ubudlelwane obuphakathi kwamacala amabini kungathetha ukuba
sinemivumelwano esemagqabini, kodwa kule meko umthetho

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waseYurophu uza kunyanzeliswa kuthi, nto leyo ethetha ukuba
ayisayi kuphinda ibe ngubudlelwane obuphakathi kwamacala amabini.

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Ngokwahlukileyo, ibiya kuba sisivumelwano
sokuthobela. Ke, iBhunga leFederal lingathanda ukusigqibezela.

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Kwangaxeshanye, abantu abamalunga ne-100 basebenza
kumacandelo ahlukeneyo eBern ukwenza zonke iinguqu

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eziyimfuneko kumthetho-siseko kumgaqo-nkqubo wasekhaya.

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Kukho intetho ngemithetho engangama-30 ekusafuneka ilungiswe.

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Kwaye ke – ukuba olu cwangciso luyasebenza –
ngokwembono yeBhunga leFederal, umyalezo wokubonisana

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uza kukhutshwa kunyaka ozayo, oko kukuthi ngo-2025.

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Ngokutsho kweBhunga leFederal, umyalezo
unamaphepha angaphezu kwe-1,000 ubude, oku

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kukunika umbono nje wokuba mkhulu kangakanani.

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Kwaye ke iya kuza phambi kwePalamente kunyaka ozayo,
mhlawumbi kwisiqingatha sesibini sonyaka, kwaye ndilindele

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ukuba kuza kubakho ireferendamu ngaxa lithile ngo-2026.

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Olu luza kuba lolona voto lukhulu
lwabemi kwiminyaka engama-30 edlulileyo.

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Nditshilo ukuba lo ngumama wazo zonke iidabi.

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Ngoko ke lo ngumbandela wobomi nokufa kweli lizwe
laseSwitzerland – nokuba singaqhubeka sisakhululekile,

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sizimele kwaye sisebenza ngedemokhrasi ngokuthe ngqo.

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– kwaye ngokwembono, ulonyulo
olukhulu mhlawumbi luza kubanjwa ngo-2026.

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Masiziqwalasele ngakumbi ezi ngongoma.

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Ukhankanyile ngokufutshane oko kuza kuchaphazeleka
koku. Igama elingundoqo: "idemokhrasi ethe ngqo".

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Ucinga ukuba kutheni le nto ingaba sengozini
phantsi kwesivumelwano esingqongqo esinjalo?

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Ngoko ke, kufuneka kuphinde kuthiwe apha, ukuba amajelo eendaba
aphambili anika ingxelo yonke imihla ngeendidi ezithile

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zamagatya okhuseleko kunye neendidi ezithile zeentlawulo
zabafundi, neendidi ezithile zamaphuzu avela kwezi ngxoxo.

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Kodwa eneneni, owona mba mkhulu, kanye unxulumano
lweziko lweSwitzerland ne-EU, awusathethwa kwaphela.

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Into esaqhubeka ixoxwa eBrussels eneneni yinto esecaleni.

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Kwaye owona mba ubalulekileyo kule sivumelwano kukuba, okokuqala,
kuya kufuneka simkele ngokuzenzekelayo umthetho we-EU.

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Ukuba abemi baseSwitzerland baya kwireferendamu okanye
kwiplebiscite baze bangayithobeli isiphumo, baya kuqalekiswa.

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Oku kubhekiselwa kuko njengezinyathelo
zokubuyekeza kwisiJamani sanamhlanje.

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Emva koko, ukuba asivumelani, iNkundla yaseYurophu
yoBulungisa inelizwi lokugqibela malunga nokuba yintoni

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esebenzayo apha eSwitzerland – yiloo nto ithethwa ngamaxwebhu.

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Besiya kuba yikoloni yaseBrussels. Kwaye
okokugqibela, kodwa kungekho sihloko, besiya

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kunyanzeleka ukuba sihlawule imali kwi-EU rhoqo.

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La ngamanqaku amane abaluleke kakhulu anenene
abangela owona mceli-mngeni mkhulu kwiSwitzerland.

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Nazo zonke ezinye iingongoma ezisaxoxwayo zisenokuba
zibalulekile, kodwa ayiyiyo yona ingxaki engundoqo.

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Xa ndikuphulaphule, ndiyabona ukuba idemokhrasi ethe
ngqo iyanciphiswa amandla, ukuba isesichengeni, ukuba

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ubukhosi busesichengeni, ukuba asisazimele ngokwenene.

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Ukhankanye le ntlawulo ekugqibeleni.
Ndingathanda ukuyiphengulula le nto kancinci ngakumbi.

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Le yintlawulo ekuthiwa yeyokungena kwimarike,
ngokwenene ilithikithi lokungena kule marike.

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Kutheni ikhethela elinye icala kangaka? I-EU
nayo inokufikelela kwimarike yaseSwitzerland.

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Kutheni iSwitzerland ingahlawulisi umrhumo onjalo?

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Oku kungalingani kwavela njani? Kwaye kutheni kubonakala kangaka?

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Ngoku sivele kwakhona kwiimithombo ezahlukeneyo ukuba
i-EU kucacile ifuna amakhulu ezigidi rhoqo ngonyaka.

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Loo nto ikhawuleza ifikelele kwiibhiliyoni
ezininzi ngexesha elifutshane. Kwenzeka njani loo nto?

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Ngokwembono ye-EU – bendiseBrussels nesigqeba kamsinya
nje emva kokuba iingxoxo zokuqala ziphuke ngoNovemba 2021.

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– EBrussels, iSwitzerland isoloko iboniswa
njengomkhethi omkhulu kwaye njengoxhamla kwiManyano

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yaseYurophu, nto leyo eyenza ukuba kufuneke sihambise imali.

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Ngoku khawucinge ukuba i-US ingathengisana ne-EU,
okanye i-China ingathengisana ne-EU – akukho mntu

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unokucinga nokucinga ngokuhlawulisa imali ngaloo nto.

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Kwaye ngokumalunga nobudlelwane phakathi kweSwitzerland
ne-EU, thina sisathenga malunga neebhiliyoni ezingama-20

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ngaphezulu ngonyaka kunabantu base-EU abathenga kuthi.

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Ngoko ke singabathengi abalungileyo kakhulu
beManyano yaseYurophu, kwaye eneneni i-EU ifanele

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ukuba isihlawule imali, hayi thina esiyihlawulayo.

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Ngoko ke ihlabathi liyageza, kwaye i-EU
ilindele ukuba oku kusekelwe kwimodeli yaseNorway.

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Kwaye ungabalula ngokqikelelo ukuba mhlawumbi kungaba
yibhiliyoni enye ngonyaka ekufuneka siyihlawule kwi-EU.

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Ngoko ke ayinakuqondakala kwaphela, kwaye nam
andiyiqondi into yokuba kutheni iBhunga leFederal

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lingayifakanga le nto kwiingxoxo kwasekuqaleni.

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Ngoko ke, la manqaku akasaxoxwa eBrussels.

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Kutheni kunjalo? Ingaba urhulumente welizwe ngandlela
ithile ulahlekelwe yindlela? Akubalulekanga oku kubo?

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Ingaba baxabisa ezinye izinto kangangokuba
bathi, "Asingobunye, kungcono sihlawule

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ibhiliyoni kuba ke sifumana okuninzi kakhulu okunye"?

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Le nto ingeyona ibiya kuba yintoni? Yeyiphi
ingqiqo, yeyiphi imigaqo yeBhunga leFederal?

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Kufuneka sihlale umva. Ngomhla wama-26 kuMeyi 2021,
iBhunga leManyano liye laqhawula iingxoxo eBrussels.

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Ngelo xesha, uMongameli Parmelin wavela phambi kwabezindaba ekunye
noNksk. von der Leyen – owayemi apho enobuso obungatshintshiyo

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– waza wamxelela wathi: "Asinakuyisayina le ntwanano."

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Kwaye ke kwenzeka oku kulandelayo eBern: amanye
amaqela angenelela – ngobuninzi – kwiBhunga leManyano:

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Akunakwenzeka oko; kufuneka aqale iingxoxo ezintsha.

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U-Ignazio Cassis, uMphathiswa Wezangaphandle, wathi ngelo
xesha: "Asisoze sityikitye iSivumelwano Esisisiseko 2.0."

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Kodwa le nto ayenzileyo ngoku imbi
ngaphezu kwesivumelwano esisisiseko 2.0.

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Kuba, ngelo xesha, ezi mali zazingabandakanywanga kwi-EU.

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Kwaye iSwitzerland yaza yahlawula
ngaphandle kwemiqathango isibhanoyi esinye

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seefranc zaseSwitzerland kwi-EU ngoSeptemba 2021.

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Abantu baseBern baziva benetyala.

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Ndikwakhumbula ukuba bekukho oosopolitiki abaya eBrussels
baza baxolisa egameni leSwitzerland. Khawucinge nje ngaloo nto.

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Kwaye yayiyileyo imo eyakhokelela kwiBhunga
leFederal ukuba liphinde lingene kwiingxoxo ne-EU.

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Ngeli xesha, ngelishwa, andikholelwa ukuba
iBhunga leFederal liza kuyinqamla le nkqubo ngokwaso.

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Kungenzeka – phantse ngokuqinisekileyo – ukuba uza kuyizisa le
nto phambi kwePalamente kwaye ekugqibeleni phambi kwabavoti.

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Naphaya, kuvela umbuzo omkhulu: "Ingaba oku kufanele kwenziwe
ngesininzi samaphondo okanye ngesininzi sabantu kuphela?"

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Into nje yokuba oku kungeyonto eqhelekileyo, kwaye kufuneka
isininzi seekhanto, ibonisa nje ukuba abantu

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bayazi ukuba le meko ibaluleke kakhulu – kwaye bade
bafuna nokugqitha isininzi seekhanto kule meko.

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Ngoku kukho iCompass Initiative, eneneni efuna ukufezekisa into
enye, kanye leyo yokuba yonke idemokhrasi –

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kuquka iicantons – ibe nethuba lokuthetha.
Yiloo nto kuthethwa ngobuninzi beefundazwe.

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Nani ningoosomashishini – njengoko
besitshilo ekuqaleni – hayi nje kuphela oosopolitiki.

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Yintoni efunekayo ukuze uphumelele
eYurophu kwezoshishino, ukuze wenze urhwebo?

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Ngaba kukho naziphi na izivumelwano ezikhethekileyo ezifunekayo,
okanye luhlobo luni lwesakhelo

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sezopolitiko – hayi kanye izivumelwano zesakhelo –
kodwa luhlobo luni lwesakhelo olufunekayo?

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Ngaba urhwebo olukhululekileyo lwanele? Okanye yeyiphi
ingcamango eneneni onayo engumnye umxholo wale nkqubo

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yokudityaniswa kweziko enamandla efunwa yi-EU, iBrussels neBern?

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Kulungile, ndingathanda ukuqala ngokuthi oku
kubaluleke nako kum: asifuni mfazwe ne-EU.

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Kanti ke, nam andonwabi xa i-EU ingaphumeleli.

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Akaphilanga kakuhle. I-EU ayikho kwimeko entle yezoqoqosho.

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Ngoko ke, andonwabi kwaphela yile nto, kodwa ekugqibeleni
sinomdla kubudlelwane obuhle noManyano lwaseYurophu.

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Singakwazi nokuqukumbela izivumelwano
ezininzi ne-EU njengoko sinqwenela.

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Kodwa into engamkelekanga kukuba thina – kwaye lo yayingowona
myalezo ubalulekileyo uMongameli weFederal uParmelin

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engavumelekanga ukuwuthetha egameni leBhunga leFederal
ngelo xesha – ekugqibeleni simele sithethe ngeqhiya kwi-EU:

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Asinakwenza kwaye asizukwenza naziphi na
izivumelwano ezifuna ukuba samkele imithetho yenu.

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Kwaye ezi ziingenelo neentshukumo kwezoqoqosho eziya kusenza
sikwazi ukugqama kwixesha elizayo – nangona siliLizwe

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elinamavawonsi aphezulu – ukuba sinemeko yesakhelo
enomtsalane ngakumbi, ukuba sinirhafu eziphantsi, ukuba

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sinemithetho yabasebenzi ekhululekileyo ngaphezu kweyo ye-EU.

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Zonke ezi zibonelelo zikwanceda
iSwitzerland ukuba iphumelele kwixesha elide.

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Kwaye ukuba kufuneka sitshintshe konke oko, siza
kubuyela emva kudidi oluphakathi oluqhelekileyo lwaseYurophu.

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Akusayi kubakho mahluko asemthethweni kwakhona.

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Oku kubhekiselwa kuko njenge "level
playing field" kwintetho yanamhlanje.

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Ngoko ke yonke into ilungelelaniswe ngentsimbi.
Wonke umntu unemithetho efanayo. Kwaye asikufuni oko.

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Asifuni izikhonkwane ezilingana
ngobude, sifuna izikhonkwane ezinde.

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Ngoko ke siya kuqhubeka siphumelela kwezoqoqosho.