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Ndinelunda lokuthetha noStefan Magnet, umququzeleli
nomphumezisi, intloko yalo msitho wonke, umphathi we-AUF1.

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Stefan, uziva njani ngoku emva kwalo mhla ubalaseleyo, nakwizolo?

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Kwenzeke izinto ezininzi, ubufuneka kakhulu.

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Kufuneke ulungelelwaniso olukhulu kakhulu, njengoko
ubona, nokuba awukaze wenze nto enje ngaphambili.

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Unyakeni? Ingaba ihlangabezane nokulindeleyo kwakho?

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Ingaba ubukhe waba nenkomfa
obuyibone ngokwenene engqondweni yakho?

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Ewe, ndiyakhululeka kwaye ndonwabe kakhulu, kwaye
kuyahlekisa ukuba utsho lonto, kuba xa uyibona ngamehlo

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engqondo yakho, uyabona kwakhona amandla eengcinga.

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Kwiinyanga ezimbalwa ezidlulileyo, xa ndaqonda
ukuba ndifuna ngokwenene ukwenza oku, ndazibonela

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ngamehlo engqondo indlela oku kunokusebenza ngayo.

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Kwaye yiloo nto kanye eyenzekileyo.

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Yayibantu abalapha. Indawo ilungile kakhulu
apha. Umoya namandla apha manamandla ngokwenene.

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Kwaye ndiyakhululeka kuba kuhambe kakuhle ngaphandle kwengxaki.

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Kwelinye icala, iingxaki ezinokuba zibangelwe licala elinye.

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Ngendlela yethu yokusebenzisana ngasese nokuqaphela ukhuseleko,
siyikhuphile le nto kwaye sayithintela ukuba yenzeke.

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Kodwa ke, sihlanganise iinkwenkwezi ezininzi apha, kwaye
oko kuthetha nokuba kukho iimfuno ezininzi zokuhlonitshwa.

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Kwakuchulumancisa nam: oku kuza kuba nefuthe elithini?

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Ingaba iya kuba ngumxube onetyhefu okanye ovele ngobunye?

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Kwaye kunokusinika ithemba. Kwakunomanyano kakhulu.

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Kwakujolise kakhulu kwimvumelwano, kwaye oko
kubonise kwakhona ukuba abantu ngabantu abanomdla

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kwintsebenziswano. Ngoku sesikhe sanamava ngaloo nto.

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Ndiyavuya kakhulu ukuba izinto zihambe kakuhle.

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Hayi indlela emangalisayo. Ukuba ndikhumbula kakuhle, uye
wathetha kwintetho yakho yokuvula ngale ntsasa

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ukuba abantu, oko kukuthi, sonke kunye, ngoku
sigqiba ukuba amandla avela phi, kwaye avela ebantwini.

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Oku kuthetha ukuba asisaxhomekekanga kwiDavos
okanye kwanantoni na enye. Kule meko, amandla ngoku

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avela ePrague kwaye aza kusoloko edluliselwa ebantwini.

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Uva ngathi kuqalisiwe apha? Ilitye lokuqala
elingumqolo apho unokuthi, singakha phezu kwalo.

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Unethemba ngo-2025 ngokwale fomathi?

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Ewe, ke, kwiiphaneli ezahlukeneyo kuthiwe, njengoko usitshoyo,
ukuba amandla avela kuthi, kwaye amandla avela kumbusi ozimeleyo.

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Kwaye omnye umntu uqhagamshele amazwi asaziwayo athi:
"Ubuchwepheshe bobuzwe busebandleni balabo

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bamiselayo imeko kaxakeka," kwaye siye
sayiqwalasela ngokunzulu kakhulu le meko kaxakeka.

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Siye sayicingisisa saza sayixoxa into esinokuyenza ukuba
kungavela enye imeko kaxakeka, kuba asisafuni kuba

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ngamaxhoba angathathi ntweni; sifuna ukuhlala sikhokela imeko.

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Kwaye sifuna ukujonga phambili koko kunokuthi
kuza, sidibane nabantu, size sisebenzisane.

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Kwaye sele kubekho iziphumo ezinencindi, kuba sibone
ukuba nangona besele sineminyaka emihlanu sisazi

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ngeCorona, besisenokwazi ukusebenzisana ngakumbi ngokwethu.

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Oku kuveze iimpazamo esiza kuzilungisa ngoku.

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Kwaye ngaloo mbono, ndicinga ukuba ibe luncedo kakhulu, kwelinye
icala ngokunxulumene noko sinokukunika ngomxholo esiza kusasaza

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sonke, kodwa kwakhona nangokunxulumene noko
sisithathayo, apho siza kuqhubeka sifunda khona, nalapho siza

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kuqhubeka sigxininisa iinzame zethu kwiinyanga ezizayo.

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Kwaye ndinethemba ngo-2025.

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Kwelinye icala, uza kuba ngunyaka onzima kakhulu.

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Kulungiselelwa iingxaki ezininzi kuthi, ukusukela emfazweni
ukuya ekudiliken i-qoqosho nasekuthathweni kwempahla, yonke

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into iqukiwe. Mhlawumbi kwanenkohlakalo entsha yococeko. Asazi.

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Kodwa into esiyaziyo yeyokuba sifuna ukuqhubeka siphucuka,
sifuna ukusebenzisana ngakumbi, kwaye yiyo loo nto ndinethemba.

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Ngayo yonke ingxaki, le nkqubo iphinde
ilahlekelwe ngabantu abakholelwayo kuyo, kwaye loo nto

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iphindaphindwe izihlandlo ezininzi namhlanje.

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Xa umntu esemkile kule nkqubo kuba evukile aze aqonde ukuba
kukho ubuxoki obusebenzayo apha, ube sele elungele ukutshintsha.

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Kwaye ngaphezu kwako konke, akasokuze abuyele
kwinkqubo, yiyo leyo ingongoma ebalulekileyo.

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Singakwazi ke ukusebenza nabantu aba kwixesha elizayo, kwaye
siza kwenza njalo ngakumbi nangakumbi ngalo lonke ingxaki.

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Ngokucacileyo, sisiya kweliso lesaqhwithi, iliso
lesichotho, kwaye apho siza kubona yonke into ngokucacileyo.

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Ndicela uxolo. UVladimir Putin uyatsala.

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Owu ewe, kanye. Oko kubalulekile, ewe kunjalo.

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Uza kuba lapho kunyaka ozayo nakanjani.

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Ayibalulekanga njenge-Kla.TV. Loo nto ibimnandi kakhulu, ewe.

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Abantu sele bekwimo entle. Wena ugqiba enoba uza kusisusa na eso.

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Ngoko ewe, kunjalo nje. Ungabona
ukuba abantu bayakhululeka ngoku.

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UThomas ebesesitejini iiyure ezili-14. Kakade ke, ngoku uneshuga
eliphantsi egazini kwaye kufuneka enze into eyonwabisayo.

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Konke kulungile, izinto zisebenza ngolo hlobo apha, yinyani leyo.

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Ewe, ndicinga ukuba singena kumaxesha anomdla,
kwaye ndiyathemba ukuba kuza kubakho iqhubu.

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Nokuba kunjani, sinomdla opheleleyo kwaye sifuna ukuqhubeka.

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Kuya kuxhomekeka kwizinto ezimbalwa, ezifana nabaxhasi, nokuba
ingasebenza na, kuba yonke le nto ixhaswa ngemali ngeminikelo.

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Kodwa ndiyakholelwa ukuba xa abantu
bebona oko sikufezayo, baya kusixhasa.

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Simemile amajelo eendaba amaninzi asimahla.

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Kwakhona i-Kla.TV, i-Report 24,
i-PI-News, njl., kuba sinomdla wokusebenzisana.

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Sineziprojekthi zethu. Kufuneka sizifumanele thina
ngokwethu indlela yokuziphilisa kule maxesha anzima.

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Kodwa kufuneka sisebenzisane. Oko
akuthethi ukuba sonke kufuneka sitshate ngoku.

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Ndinamava aneleyo kuloo ndawo.
Ndinomfazi, ndinabantwana, ndonwabile.

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Kodwa ngokuqinisekileyo kufuneka sidibane
simsebenzisane kwiprojekthi nganye. Oko kubaluleke kakhulu.

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Ukuba sibona ukuba kukho iprojekthi
ekufuneka sisebenzisane kuyo, kufuneka senjenjalo.

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Xa kukho imeko kaxakeka, kufuneka sincede omnye nomnye.

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Yiloo nto yonke le nto. Yiloo nto kanye.
Asisayi kuphinda sidibane qho kwiiveki ezintathu.

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Kodwa kanye ngonyaka kufuneka sikwazi ukuyenza.

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Kuhle kakhulu. Yile mvakalelo uye wayifumana
xa ubuhamba apha, nkqu nangexesha

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leegekhi, xa bonke abantu bephuma ngokugqithisileyo.

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Akuzange kubonakale ngathi kukho impikiswano ngeenkcukacha apha;
endaweni yoko, bekusoloko kubonakala ngathi abantu bebefuna

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indawo yokudibana, bejolise kunye kwimcimbi obekuthethwa
ngayo, ukuze sikwazi ngoku ukuqhubela phambili kunye.

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Ndicinga ukuba amandla avela koku
amangalisa ngokwenene. Enkosi kakhulu.

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Sisandul' ukubuza abathethi abahlukeneyo omnye umbuzo.

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Amacebo ayesele esenziwa ngomlinganiselo
omkhulu, ngeendlela ezibanzi, kubandakanywa

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amagqwetha, izazinzulu kunye namajelo eendaba.

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Umbonisi oqhelekileyo, masithi,
ekhaya, ehleli apho, ngoku ubukele inkqubo.

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Angenza ntoni kanye kanye? Ndingathi, kule meko, ukuba
kubakho ulawulo olungakumbi kwaye sisenokungabi sakwazi

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ukonwabela yonke into kwi-intanethi njengoko senza namhlanje.

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Umxholo wokuthintela iingxaki, ngokukodwa
ukunxulumana kweengingqi. Ngaba uyayixhasa le nto?

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Uthi: Baphulaphuli abathandekayo, ewe, yenzani unxibelelwano
lwasekuhlaleni kwingingqi yenu. Qinisekisani ukuba bayakwazi.

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Yiyo leyo eyona nto ibalulekileyo. Ngoko ke uKevin
uthe ukungabikho kwi-intanethi yibhayografi entsha.

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Kufuneka nje sikwazi ukunxibelelana
nabantu ngaphandle kwe-intanethi.

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Ndicinga ukuba le nto niyenzayo eKla.TV ngeS&G, oko
kukuthi, la maqela okusasaza, intle kakhulu. Abantu mabazincede.

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Ndagamkela oku ndingazi kwiminyaka emininzi eyadlulayo, kodwa
andikwazanga ukuqonda umda omkhulu apho konke oku kwenzeka khona.

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Ndicinga ukuba kuhle kakhulu ukuba sele
nisebenzisa iiprojekthi ezingumzekelo apha.

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Kwaye kufuneka sidibane nabanye. Kufuneka
simanyane namacandelo afanelekileyo ootshintshiselwano.

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Kufuneka siqinisekise ukuba ukutya kwethu siwufumana kubaboneleli
basekuhlaleni, ingakumbi kwiifama esizazi, apho

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sinokufumana khona izixhobo nangexesha lengxaki –
nokuba abanayo isatifikethi sococeko okanye i-QR code.

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Ngoko ke, ezi zeentlobo zezinto apho kufuneka
udibane nabantu. Uthintelo lweengxaki kunjalo.

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Ngoko ke, ngokuqinisekileyo kufuneka senze yonke into
esavunyelwa yiyo urhulumente namhlanje, yonke into

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esinelungelo lokuyenza ukuze sizilungiselele le ngxaki.

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Kubaluleke kakhulu ukuba nje ube
nesiphakamiso esilungeleyo xa kuvela into.

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Kwaye siye safumanisa izinto ezintathu kwiqela
lethu leendaba anokuzenza umntu ngamnye ukuze

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alungiselele aze omeleze izakhiwo zethu ezingamnye.

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Kwelinye icala, oko kwakuthetha
ukwala naphi na apho kunokwenzeka khona.

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Oku kuthetha ukuba ungazibandakanyi xa kunganyanzelekanga.

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Ngoko ke, zonke izinto ezinyanzeliswa yinkqubo, ingakumbi
xa kukho amanyathelo amatsha okunyanzela, kufuneka zaliwe.

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Ukusasaza ulwazi, imfundo, ubulumko,
inkuthazo, kodwa kwakhona namanye amajelo eendaba.

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Kwaye eyesithathu yayikukubonelela
ngenkxaso. Inkxaso ngeendlela ezininzi ezahlukeneyo.

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Nokuba ngamatshantliziyo afuna inkxaso
yasekuhlaleni ngenxa yokuba enza into ethile.

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Nokuba ngabalimi abadinga inkxaso ngamathub' athile.

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Nokuba ziibhikisho okanye amanye amajelo
eendaba, nawo ngamanye amaxesha ayawadinga imali,

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kuba 'akukho nto yenzekayo ngaphandle kwemali'.

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Ngoko ke kucacile ukuba ukuba ufuna
ukwenza izinto ezinkulu, nawe ufuna imali.

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Zonke ezi zinto. Kukho ezi zinto
zintathu: ukwala, ukusasaza nokuxhasa.

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Nabani na angakwenza oko. Kwaye cinga ngako ngokwakho:
ndingathatha njani uxanduva lwam kwaye ndibandakanyeke njani?

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Ndingenza ntoni? Ndingabandakanyeka
ngakumbi na kuncedo lwasekuhlaleni?

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Mhlawumbi ndingakwazi ukuqalisa iklabhu?
Ndingadlulisela ulwazi kwabanye? Cinga ngento onokuyenza.

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Asingabo bonke abantu abathanda ukuphuma phambili
kangangokuba bafuna ukusoloko bephambi kwekhamera.

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Asingabo bonke abantu abanqwenela ukwenza into
ngezamajelo eendaba okanye ngokuchasa okanye ngemibhiyozo.

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Kuhlala kudinisayo. Kodwa ke, zikho ezinye iindlela:

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Kodwa ke kukho ezinye iindlela. Qwalasela:
Ndingenza ntoni? Kwaye kufuneka ndenze ntoni.

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Kuba ukuba awenzi nto, abanye baya
kuyenza. Yeyona nto imbi kakhulu.

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Thina, ewe, siyayixhasa yonke le nto kwaye sinethemba
elikhulu kakhulu. Kwaye enkosi ngala mazwi okuqukumbela.

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Ngethamsanqa kuso sonke isisaleko
sangokuhlwa, ndiyathemba uza konwaba kakhulu.

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Mhlawumbi uxinzelelo luye lwancipha kancinci
ngoku. Ndingacinga ukuba ubephethe umthwalo omkhulu.

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Ndingathanda ukuthetha amagama ambalwa. Enkosi ngokuba lapha.

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Ndivuya kakhulu kuba uphendule kubizo lokuthatha inxaxheba
apha nokunika ingxelo ngalo msitho. Oku kubaluleke kakhulu.

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Ngoko ke intsebenziswano yeyona nto ibalulekileyo, kwaye ndonwabe
kakhulu ngaloo nto. Qhubekani nize nixhase ababukeli, kuquka

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i-Kla.TV. Kuba yiyo kuphela indlela enokusebenza ngayo. Enkosi.

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Kulungile kakhulu, enkosi, Stefan.

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U-Elsa Mittmannsgruber wase-AUF1 ulapha nam.

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Njengoko ndivileyo, umqali okanye umvelisi
wengcinga yenkomfa yalo nyaka apha kwi-Alternative WEF.

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Nkosazana Mittmannsgruber, zithini iingcinga zakho ngenkomfa
ukuza kuthi ga ngoku, ngosuku lwesibini? Uthini? Usonelisekile?

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Ewe, ndonwabe ngokugqithisileyo. Kukho
umoya wokwenene woluthemba apha kwezi gumbi.

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Kuziswe etafileni izihloko ezithile
ezichulumancisayo neziphikisanayo.

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Abantu bathethe ngenene oko bakucingayo
bengazibambi kwaye bazame nokufumana izisombululo.

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Kwaye ndinethemba lokuba singakha phezu koku
kwaye kusengavela into enkulu ngokwenene kuko.

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Ewe, kuhle kakhulu. Ngoko isinika
ithemba. Ungayibona le mfutho, mhle, ungawuva.

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Uyakholelwa na ukuba kunokwenzeka ukoyisa olu qwango, ukuba zonke
iindaba, izazinzulu namagqwetha banokusebenzisana kunye besingise

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kwikamva elifanayo, nangona kunganyanzelekanga ukuba
bavumelane ngayo yonke into ngoku? Endaweni yoko,

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njengoko bekutshiwo ngaphambili, makugxilwe kule nqaku inye?

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Ndicinga ukuba kusoloko kunzima
ukuba wonke umntu ahambe ngecala elinye.

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Kodwa kusoloko kukho icala elinye elinobunzima
obungakumbi, elibeka nje umoya kwaye limisela icala eliya kulo.

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Kangangexesha elide, yayiyicala lehlabathi jikelele, kwaye
ndiqinisekile ukuba ngoku licala elinye

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elithatha amanyathelo okuphendula, elinokwenza
umahluko wokwenene kwaye likhuthaze abantu abaninzi.

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Ngokuqinisekileyo lixesha lotshintsho. Kucacile oko.

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Sinombuzo wokugqibela, esiwubuze wonke umntu. Oko
kukuthi: Ucinga ntoni ngokunxibelelana okuzimeleyo

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kwi-intanethi – oko kukuthi, ngokwengingqi nendawo?

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Nokuba ngababukeli be-AUF1 okanye ababukeli be-Kla.TV,
akukhathaliseki, abantu abakwilizwe ayixhomekekanga

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kuphela kwimidiya ekwi-intanethi, kodwa bayadibana
nabanye kwingingqi yabo ngamaxesha olawulo lweendaba.

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Ingaba lo ngumba obalulekileyo osondele entliziyweni yakho?

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Yingongoma ebaluleke kakhulu.

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Ingxaki kukuba ithintelwa nje.

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Ngoko ke kunzima ukucinga ukuba
singalungiselela intlanganiso okanye inkomfa okanye

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umsitho omkhulu eJamani okanye e-Austria ngoku.

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Nje ukuba kwabaziswe indawo, sijongana nokuphindiselwa
kwaye indawo irhoxiswa kwakhona kuba abaququzeleli

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boyika kakhulu kwaye bafakwe phantsi koxinzelelo olukhulu.

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Ngelishwa, yiyo kanye leyo ingxaki yokwenene.

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Ukuba ngoku sijikela kwamanye amazwe, njengoko besisenza, ke
kunokwenzeka kwaye, ewe, kubaluleke kakhulu ukuba sibonane

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ubuso ngobuso, sidibane nabantu ubuso ngobuso kwaye sithethe.

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Yinkqubo eyahluke ngokupheleleyo,
nomoya owahlukileyo, xa uzibona ngokwenene.

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Namhlanje, ndikwadibene nabantu abaninzi
endandithethe nabo kuphela nge-Zoom kude kube ngoku, kwaye

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ndikwazile ukubaxhawula ngesandla ubuso ngobuso okokuqala.

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Yayiyimvakalelo emangalisayo
kwaye ikwenza uzive womelele kakhulu.

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Kukwakho namandla amaninzi kakhulu, amandla
okushayela phambili amaninzi kakhulu xa nje

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uvakalelwa yamandla xa wonke umntu ekhona.

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Kodwa ewe, njengoko benditshilo, ngelishwa
oko kunengxaki kancinci, kodwa ke senza

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konke okusemandleni ethu ukukutshintsha oko.

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Ungabona ukuba inkulu kakhulu kwaye yomelele.

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Kodwa ngoku ababukeli abakho bayadibana, nto leyo enentsingiselo
kwinqanaba lasekuhlaleni nelommandla, ngokuzimeleyo kuthi.

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Ewe, ngokuqinisekileyo.

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Ewe kona, oko kubaluleke kakhulu, kwaye kukude
nehlabathi ledijithali, kuba apho, ucinezela iqhosha uze uphele.

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Ewe, kanye, ngoko ke kunjalo ngokwenene – inkcaso iya isanda.

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Ukuba nisenza amaqela amancinci ngokwengingqi, yonke into iqala
incinci, aye akwazi ukunxibelelana, yonke

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into ikhula isiya ikhula, kwaye ke niyabona
ngokwenene ukuba bangaphi na, ukuba singaphi na.

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Enkosi kakhulu ngodliwano-ndlebe.

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Ndiyazi ukuba ufunwa kakhulu apha,
kwaye na kuhanjwa ngakwe yonke indawo.

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Enkosi ngexesha lakho, kwaye
ndikunqwenelela okuhle kunye nethamsanqa kwinkomfa.