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Nginehlonipho yokukhuluma noStefan Magnet, umhleli
nomqhudelisi, inhloko yomcimbi wonke, umphathi we-AUF1.

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Stefan, uzizwa kanjani manje ngemva
kwalolu suku oluhle kakhulu, nange izolo futhi?

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Kwenzeke okuningi, wawufunwa kakhulu.

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Kwadingeka ukuhlela okukhulu kakhulu, njengoba
ubona, noma ungakaze wenze lutho olunjalo ngaphambili.

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Uyaphila kanjani? Ingabe kuhlangabezane nokulindelekile kwakho?

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Ingabe wawunengqungquthela
owawuyibona ngempela ngamehlo engqondo yakho?

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Yebo, ngikhululekile futhi ngijabule kakhulu, futhi
kuyahlekisa ukuthi utsho kanjalo, ngoba uma ukubona

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ngeso lomqondo wakho, ungabona futhi amandla emicabango.

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Ezinyangeni ezimbalwa ezedlule, lapho ngabona
ngempela ukuthi ngifuna ukwenza lokhu,

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ngazibonela engqondweni ukuthi kungahamba kanjani.

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Futhi yilokho ngempela okwenzekile.

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Kwakungabantu lapha. Indawo lapha
imangalisayo. Umoya namandla lapha ziqinile kakhulu.

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Ngiyakhululeka ukuthi kwahamba kahle ngaphandle kwezinkinga.

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Ngakolunye uhlangothi, izinkinga
ezingase zibe zibangelwe ngelinye uhlangothi.

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Ngenxa yendlela yethu yokuhlela ngasese nokuzibheka
kwezokuphepha, sesiyinqabile futhi savimbela ukuthi kwenzeke.

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Kodwa-ke, sihlanganise lapha izihlabani eziningi, futhi
lokho kusho ukuthi kunezinkolelo zokuzethemba eziningi.

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Kwaba yinto ejabulisayo nami: lokhu kuzoba nomphumela muni?

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Ngabe kuzoba ngumxube onobuthi noma onobunye obuhle?

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Futhi kungasinika ithemba. Kwakuhambisana kakhulu.

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Kwakugxile kakhulu ekuvumelwaneni, futhi
kwakhombisa futhi ukuthi abantu bangabantu

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abanentshisekelo yokusebenzisana. Manje sesikubonile lokho.

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Ngiyajabula kakhulu ukuthi konke kuhambile kahle.

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Kuhle kangakanani. Uma ngikhumbula kahle, uphinde wathi
ekukhulumeni kwakho kokuqala namuhla ekuseni ukuthi

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abantu, okungukuthi sonke ndawonye, manje banquma
ukuthi amandla avela kuphi, nokuthi avela kubantu.

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Lokhu kusho ukuthi asisaxhomekeki eDavos noma
kunoma yini enye. Kulesi simo, amandla manje

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asuka ePrague futhi azokwengezwa kakhulu kubantu.

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Ingabe uzizwa ukuthi manje sekusungulwe lapha? Isigaba sokuqala
lapho esingasho khona ukuthi sizokwakhela phezu kwalokhu.

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Ingabe unethemba ngo-2025 maqondana nalolu hlobo?

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Yebo, kahle, emaphanelini ahlukahlukene
kwathiwa, njengoba utsho, ukuthi amandla avela

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kithi, futhi amandla avela kumbusi ophethe.

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Futhi omunye umuntu waphawula isisho esidumile esithi:
"Ubukhosi bungobabo abanquma isimo esiphuthumayo,"

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futhi sesicabangele ngokucophelela isimo esiphuthumayo.

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Sihlolisise futhi sixoxe ngalokho esingakwenza uma
kwenzeka enye isimo esiphuthumayo, ngoba asisafuni ukuba

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izisulu ezingazenzeli; sifuna ukuhlala sihamba phambili.

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Futhi sifuna ukubheka phambili kulokho okungase
kufike, sakhe inethiwekhi futhi sisebenzisane.

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Futhi sekukhona imiphumela ewusizo, ngoba
sesibonile ukuthi nakuba sesiyazi ngeCorona

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iminyaka emihlanu, sisakwazi ukusebenzisana kakhulu.

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Lokhu sekudalule amaphutha esizowalungisa manje.

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Futhi ngalelo boqobo, ngicabanga ukuthi bekuyinzuzo kakhulu:
ngakolunye uhlangothi ngokwezinto esingazinikeza ngokuqukethwe

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esizokusakaza sonke, kodwa futhi ngokwezinto esizozithatha
nathi, lapho sizokuqhubeka sifunda khona, futhi lapho

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sizokuqhubeka sigxila khona imizamo yethu ezinyangeni ezizayo.

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Futhi nginethemba ngo-2025.

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Ngakolunye uhlangothi, kuzoba unyaka onzima kakhulu.

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Kulungiselelwa izinhlekelele eziningi kithi, kusukela empini kuya
ekudilikelweni komnotho nasekuthathweni kwempahla, konke kufakiwe.

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Mhlawumbe ngisho nohulumeni wobuphekula bokuhlanzeka. Asazi.

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Kodwa esikwaziyo wukuthi sifuna ukuqhubeka nokuthuthuka,
sifuna ukusebenza ndawonye kakhulu, yingakho nginethemba.

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Ngenxa yazo zonke izinkinga, lolu hlelo luphinde lulahlekelwe
abantu abakholelwa kulo, futhi lokhu sekuphindwe kaningi namuhla.

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Uma umuntu eshiya lolu hlelo ngoba evuka aqaphele
ukuthi amanga asebenza lapha, usukulungele ukushintsha.

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Futhi ngaphezu kwakho konke, ngeke abuyele
kulesi simiso, yilona iphuzu elibalulekile.

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Singakwazi-ke ukusebenza nalaba bantu
esikhathini esizayo, futhi sizokwenza kanjalo kakhulu

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nakakhulu ngesikhathi senhlekelele ngayinye.

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Ngokusobala, siya emqoka wesaqhwithi, emqoka
we-hurricane, futhi lapho sizobona konke ngokusobala.

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Ngiyaxolisa. UVladimir Putin uyashayela.

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Hhayi, ngempela. Lokho kubalulekile, impela.

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Uzobe ekhona futhi ngonyaka ozayo.

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Akubalulekile njengokwe-Kla.TV. Lokho bekumnandi kakhulu, vele.

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Abantu sebebesesimweni esihle
sengqondo. Unquma ukuthi uzokusika yini lokho.

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Ngakho yebo, kunjalo nje. Ungabona
ukuthi abantu manje sebekhululekile.

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uThomas wayeseqongeni amahora ayi-14. Vele, manje unokuntuleka
kwegazi ushukela futhi udinga ukwenza okuthile okujabulisayo.

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Kulungile konke, yilokho okwenzeka lapha, yilokho okuyiqiniso.

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Yebo, ngicabanga ukuthi siya ezikhathini
ezijabulisayo, futhi ngithemba ukuthi kuzoba nokulandelwa.

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Noma kunjalo, sigqugquzelwe ngokuphelele futhi sifuna ukuqhubeka.

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Kuzoncika ezintweni ezimbalwa, njengabasekeli, ukuthi
ingasebenza yini, njengoba konke kukhokhelwa ngeminikelo.

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Kodwa ngikholelwa ukuthi lapho
abantu bebona esikufeza, bazosixhasa.

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Simeme iziteshi zemidiya eziningi zamahhala.

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Futhi i-Kla.TV, i-Report 24, i-PI-News,
njll., ngoba sithakasile ukusebenzisana.

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Sinezimaphrojekthi zethu. Kumele sizitholele thina
ukuthi sizophila kanjani kulezi zikhathi ezinzima.

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Kodwa kumele sisebenze ndawonye. Lokho
akusho ukuthi sonke siyashada manje.

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Ngine isipiliyoni esanele kule ndawo.
Nginomkakami, nginezinsana, ngiyajabula.

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Kodwa ngempela kufanele sihlanganyele
emaphrojekthini ngayinye. Lokho kubaluleke kakhulu.

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Uma sibona ukuthi kunephrojekthi esidinga
ukusebenza ndawonye kuyo, khona-ke kumele senze njalo.

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Uma kunesimo esiphuthumayo, kumele sisizane.

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Yilokho konke. Futhi yilokho okubalulekile.
Asisazohlangana njalo emasontweni amathathu manje.

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Kodwa kanye ngonyaka, kufanele sikwazi ukukuphatha.

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Kuhle kakhulu. Lokho bekuyisithombe owathola
lapho uhamba lapha, ngisho nasezikhawini

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zokuphumula, lapho wonke abantu bephuma behamba.

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Akuzange kubonakale sengathi kukhona umuntu owayephikisana
ngezincazelo lapha; kunalokho, kwakuhlale kubonakala sengathi

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abantu babebheka indawo esivumelana ngayo,
begxile ndawonye endabeni ebiphakathi kwethu,

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ukuze sikwazi manje ukuthola amandla ndawonye.

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Ngicabanga ukuthi amandla aphuma kulokhu
amangalisayo ngempela. Ngiyabonga kakhulu.

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Sisanda kubuza abakhulumi abahlukene umbuzo omunye.

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Manje sekwakhiwa izinhlelo ngosayizi omkhulu nangendlela
ebanzi, kubandakanya abameli, ososayensi kanye nezindaba.

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Umbonisi ojwayelekile, masithi
usekhaya, ehlezi khona, manje ubuka uhlelo.

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Angakwenza ini ngokukhethekile? Bengingathi, kulesi simo,
uma kuba nokucwasa okwengeziwe, kungenzeka singasakwazi

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ukujabulela konke ku-inthanethi njengoba sikwenza namuhla.

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Isihloko sokuvimbela izinkinga, ikakhulukazi
ukwakha inethiwekhi yezifunda. Uyavuma ngalokho?

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Uthi: Babukeli abathandekayo, yebo, xhumana nabantu
bendawo esifundeni sakho. Qiniseka ukuthi bakwazi wena.

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Yilokho okubalulekile. UKevin uthe ukuthi
ukungakho ku-inthanethi kuyibhayoloji entsha.

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Kumele nje futhi sixhumane ngaphandle kwe-intanethi.

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Ngicabanga ukuthi lokho enikwenzayo e-Kla.TV
nge-S&G, okungukuthi lezi zinkundla

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zokusabalalisa, kuhle kakhulu. Abantu kufanele bazisize.

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Ngakwamukela lokhu ngokungazi eminyakeni
eminingi eyedlule, kodwa angikwazanga ukuqonda

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ubukhulu obukhulu lapho konke lokhu kwenzeka khona.

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Ngicabanga ukuthi kuhle kakhulu ukuthi
usuvele usebenzisa amaphrojekthi okuqala lapha.

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Futhi sidinga ukuxhumana. Sidinga ukuhlanganisa
imizamo nemijikelezo yokushintshisana efanele.

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Kumele siqinisekise ukuthi sithola ukudla kwethu kubanikezeli
bendawo, kungcono kubalimi abangane, kubo esingathola

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futhi izimpahla ngesikhathi senhlekelele – ngisho
noma bengenasitifiketi sokuhlanzeka noma ikhodi ye-QR.

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Ngakho-ke lezi izinhlobo zezinto lapho udinga ukwakha
inethiwekhi. Ukuvimbela izinhlekelele noma kunjalo.

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Ngakho-ke kufanele ngempela senze konke okusavunyelwe
nguhulumeni ukuthi sikwenze namuhla, konke esivunyelwe

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ukukwenza ukuze sizilungiselele lesi simo esiphuthumayo.

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Kubalulekile kakhulu ukuba nesitoko
esilungele lapho kwenzeka okuthile.

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Futhi sesixazulule izinto ezintathu eqenjini lethu
lezokuxhumana umuntu ngamunye angazenza ukuze

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alungiselele futhi aqinise izakhiwo zethu ezihlukile.

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Ngakolunye uhlangothi, lokho kwakusho
ukwenqaba noma yikuphi lapho kungenzeka khona.

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Lokhu kusho ukuthi ungazidlali uma kungadingeki.

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Ngakho-ke, zonke izinto ezibekwe yisistimu, ikakhulukazi
lapho kunezinyathelo ezintsha zokuphoqa, kufanele zenqatshwe.

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Ukusasaza ulwazi, imfundo, ulwazi,
ugqozi, kodwa futhi neminye imidiya.

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Futhi eyesithathu kwakuwukunikeza ukweseka.
Ukusekela ngezinhlobo eziningi ezehlukene.

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Noma ngabe bangabasebenzi bezishoshovu
abadinga ukwesekwa emhlabeni ngoba benza okuthile.

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Noma ngabe laba ngabalimi abadinga ukwesekwa kwesikhashana.

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Noma ngabe izibhikisho noma imidiya
ehlukile, nazo kwezinye izikhathi zidinga imali,

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ngoba 'akwenzeki lutho ngaphandle kwemali'.

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Ngakho-ke kuyacaca ukuthi uma ufuna
ukufeza izinto ezinkulu, udinga imali.

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Zonke lezi zinto. Kunezinto ezintathu:
ukwenqaba, ukusabalalisa nokusekela.

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Noma ubani angakwenza lokho. Futhi ucabange ngalokhu ngokwakho:
ngingathatha kanjani umthwalo wami siqu futhi ngibambe iqhaza?

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Ngingakwenza ini? Ngingazibandakanya
kakhulu ekusizeni emphakathini wami?

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Ngingase ngiqale iklabhu? Ngingadlulisela
ulwazi kwabanye? Cabanga ngalokho ongakwenza.

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Akuyona wonke umuntu ongokwengqondo evulekile kangangokuba
kudingeke ahlale efaka ikhala lakhe phambi kwekhamera.

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Akuyona wonke umuntu ofuna ngempela ukwenza okuthile
ngezindaba noma ngokumelana noma ngemibhikisho. Kuvame

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ukuba kukhathele. Kodwa-ke kukhona nezinye izindlela:

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Kodwa-ke kukhona nezinye izinketho. Cabanga:
Ngingakwenza ini? Futhi yini okufanele ngiyenze?

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Ngoba uma ungakwenzi lutho, abanye
bazokwenza. Yilokho okubi kakhulu.

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Siyakweseka konke lokhu, futhi sinethemba
elikhulu kakhulu. Ngiyabonga ngalezo zisho zokugcina.

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Futhi inhlanhla kuze kube sekupheleni
kobusuku, ngithemba ukuthi uzoba nesikhathi esimnandi.

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Mhlawumbe ingcindezi isinciphile kancane manje.
Ngingacabanga ukuthi ubephethe izinto eziningi.

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Ngithanda ukukhuluma amagama ambalwa. Ngiyabonga ngokuba lapha.

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Ngiyajabula kakhulu ukuthi uphendule isimemo sokubamba
iqhaza lapha nokubika ngesimo. Lokhu kubaluleke kakhulu.

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Ngakho ukubambisana kuyisihluthulelo ngempela, futhi ngiyajabula
ngalokho. Qhubeka futhi usekele ababukeli, kuhlanganise ne-Kla.TV.

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Ngoba yilona kuphela indlela engasebenza ngayo. Ngiyabonga.

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Kuhle kakhulu, ngiyabonga, Stefan.

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Elsa Mittmannsgruber wase-AUF1 ulapha nami.

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Njengoba ngizwe, umqalisi noma ngisho umsunguli
wembono yengqungquthela yalo nyaka lapha e-Alternative WEF.

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Nksz. Mittmannsgruber, ucabangani ngengqungquthela
kuze kube manje, ngosuku lwesibili? Unjani? Uyajabula?

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Yebo, ngijabule ngempela. Kunomoya
wangempela wokuzethemba lapha kulezi zindlu.

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Kwethulwe izihloko ezithile
ezijabulisayo kakhulu neziphikisanayo etafuleni.

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Abantu bakhuluma ngempela imicabango yabo
ngaphandle kokuzibamba futhi bazama ukuthola izixazululo.

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Futhi ngiyakholwa ukuthi singakha phezu kwalokhu
nokuthi okuthile okukhulu kakhulu kusengathuthuka.

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Yebo, kuhle kakhulu. Ngakho kusinika
ithemba. Ungabona amandla, muhle, ungawuzwa.

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Uyacabanga ukuthi kungenzeka ukunqoba le mehluko, ukuthi zonke
iziteshi zezindaba, ososayensi namagqwetha bangasebenzisana

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ndawonye ukuze bakhe ikusasa elivamile ngaphandle
kokuba bavumelane ngakho konke manje? Kodwa-ke, njengoba

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bekushiwo ngaphambilini, nigxile kulo phuzu elilodwa?

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Ngikholelwa ukuthi kuhlale kunzima
kubo bonke ukuhamba ngendlela efanayo.

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Kodwa kuhlale kunohlangothi olulodwa olunesisindo
esikhulu, olusetha umoya futhi lunquma indlela.

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Isikhathi eside bekuyiside se-globalist, futhi ngiyakholwa ukuthi
manje sekuyiside esiphikisayo esithatha

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izinyathelo zokuphendula futhi esingenza
umehluko ngempela futhi sikhuthaze abantu abaningi.

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Impela sekuyisikhathi sokushintsha. Lokho kucacile.

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Sinesimibuzo esisodwa sokugcina esawubuza wonke umuntu.
Okungukuthi: Ucabanga ukuthini ngokuxhumana okungaxhomekile

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ku-inthanethi – okusho ukuthi endaweni ngokwendawo?

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Kungakhathaliseki ukuthi bangababukeli be-AUF1 noma be-Kla.TV,
abantu abasemhlabeni abathembeli kuphela

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emithonjeni ye-inthanethi, kodwa futhi
bayaxhumana ezindaweni zabo ngesikhathi sokucwasa.

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Ingabe le yindaba ebalulekile esondele enhliziyweni yakho?

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Kuyiphuzu elibaluleke kakhulu.

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Inkinga ukuthi kuvinjwa nje.

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Ngakho-ke kunzima ukucabanga ukuthi
singahlela umhlangano noma ingqungquthela noma

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umcimbi omkhulu eJalimane noma e-Austria okwamanje.

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Njengokushesha nje lapho indawo imemezelwa, sibhekana
nokuziphindiselwa futhi indawo iyakhanselwa futhi ngoba

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abahleli besaba kakhulu futhi bengaphansi kwengcindezi enkulu.

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Ngeshwa, yilona inkinga yangempela.

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Uma manje sibheka kwamanye amazwe, njengoba sesikwenzile,
khona-ke kungenzeka futhi, impela, kubaluleke

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kakhulu ukuthi sibonane ubuso nobuso, sakhe
inethiwekhi ubuso nobuso futhi sikhulume komunye nomunye.

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Kuyikhemistri ehlukile ngokuphelele,
umoya ohlukile, lapho uzibona ngempela.

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Namuhla, ngiphinde ngahlangana nabantu abaningi
engangibaxoxile kuphela nge-Zoom kuze kube manje, futhi

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ngangikwazi ukubamba izandla nabo mathupha okokuqala.

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Kwakuyizwa okumangalisayo futhi
kukwenza uzizwe unamandla kakhulu.

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Kukhona futhi amandla amaningi kakhulu, amandla okuqhuba amaningi
kakhulu uma nje uzwa leyo mizwa lapho wonke umuntu ekhona.

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Kodwa yebo, njengoba ngishilo, ngeshwa lokho kunenkinga
kancane, kodwa siyenza konke esingakwenza ukushintsha lokho.

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Ungabona ukuthi inkulu kakhulu futhi mkhulu.

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Kodwa manje izethameli zasendaweni sezixhumana, okwenza ukuthi
kube nenqondo endaweni nasendaweni yesifunda, ngokuzimela kithi.

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Impela, yebo, vele.

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Impela, lokho kubaluleke kakhulu, futhi kude nomhlaba
wedijithali, ngoba lapho ucindezela inkinobho uyanyamalala.

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Yebo, ngempela, ngakho-ke kunjalo
ngempela – ukumelana kuya kukhula.

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Uma usungula amaqembu amancane endawo, konke kuqala kancane; bese
ekwazi ukuxhumana, konke kuyanda kakhulu futhi kuyanda kakhulu,

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bese empeleni ubona ukuthi bangaki ngempela, ukuthi singaki.

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Ngiyabonga kakhulu ngengxoxo.

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Ngiyazi ukuthi lapha udingeka kakhulu, futhi uhamba yonke indawo.

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Ngiyabonga ngesikhathi sakho, futhi
ngikufisela konke okuhle nenhlanhla engu-enkonferensini.