WEBVTT 00:00.928 --> 00:09.728 Hape hape, ho na le lebaka la ho totobatsa tlaleho e sa lekanang e hlahisitsoeng filiming ea bopaki ea ORF. 00:09.728 --> 00:18.226 Kopanong ea Machaba ea 2024 ea Tlelaemete le Matla e neng e tšoaretsoe Vienna, bankakarolo ba ithutile ka 00:18.226 --> 00:22.990 boralitaba ba tlelaemete bo mano, boo le ORF e bo ratang. 00:22.990 --> 00:25.760 Ka ketsahalo ea seboka sena, 00:25.760 --> 00:32.023 Kla.TV kajeno e hlahisa likaroloana tsa puo e nang le temohisiso e tebileng ea Ngaka Bernhard Strehl, rakhoebo le setsebi 00:32.023 --> 00:35.860 sa fisiksi se ikhethileng ka fisiksi ea athomo le mahlaseli. 00:35.860 --> 00:41.397 Lipuo tsa hae tse fetang 50 tse entsoeng ka lipatlisiso tse tebileng mabapi le phetoho ea tlelaemete li ile tsa mo 00:41.397 --> 00:44.900 etsa sesosa se bohale ho bafuputsi ba tlelaemete ba Austria. 00:44.900 --> 00:49.873 Nakong ea tlokotsi ea coronavirus, Strehl le metsoalle e meng ba thehile mokhatlo oa IMMUN, o 00:49.873 --> 00:52.620 nang le sepheo se habeli – sa bongaka le sa molao. 00:52.620 --> 00:59.345 Ka ho kena-kenana ho hongata ha molao boemong ba lekhotla la tsamaiso, Strehl o ile a ithuta hore ha ho 00:59.345 --> 01:06.400 hlokahale hore u be 'muelli oa molao hore u ka emela motho lekhotleng la tsamaiso naheng ea Austria. 01:06.400 --> 01:11.387 Ho latela lipolelo tsa hae, o se a emetse batho ba bangata mahala mme o fumane 01:11.387 --> 01:15.328 boiphihlelo linyeoeng tse fetang 20 ho fihlela jwale. 01:15.328 --> 01:17.980 Strehl o tsebahala ka tšenolo tsa hae tse hlakileng. 01:17.980 --> 01:24.541 Ke ka lebaka leo boralitaba bohle ba Austria ba lekang ho mo khutsisa ka lipuo tse kang "Nazi" le "moqhekelli 01:24.541 --> 01:30.976 oa lehlakore le letona". Propaganda ea tlelaemete e sebetsa joang mecheng e ka sehloohong ea litaba? 01:30.976 --> 01:37.225 Shebella puo e rutang haholo ea Ngaka Strehl ka mokhoa o khutsufalitsoeng, e nang le sehlooho se reng: 01:37.225 --> 01:42.340 Propaganda ea tlelaemete naheng ea Austria. Re e hanyetsa. 01:46.980 --> 01:49.536 (Bernhard Strehl:) ... poleloana 'ho futhumala ha lefatshe' e qalile ho sebediswa haholo 01:49.536 --> 01:51.100 feela kamora hore tsietsi ya coronavirus e fele. 01:51.100 --> 01:55.049 Ka tšohanyetso, bonyane mona Austria, poleloana 'global warming' e se e qalile ho sebelisoa. 01:55.049 --> 01:57.040 Pele, ho ne ho dula ho bitswa ho futhumala ha lefatshe. 01:57.040 --> 02:00.000 E ne e le jwalo ho tloha ka bo-1980. 02:00.000 --> 02:02.480 Eaba ka tšohanyetso e fokolang hanyane. 02:02.480 --> 02:05.680 Ka tšohanyetso, bohle ba ne ba bua ka phetoho ea tlelaemete. 02:05.680 --> 02:10.806 Ke belaela hore Climategate e phethile karolo e itseng tabeng ena. Hobane le mecha ea phatlalatso e kholo e se e hlokometse 02:10.806 --> 02:13.600 hore ho na le ho sa tsamaeeng hantle ka saense ena ea tlelaemete. 02:13.600 --> 02:19.989 Mme jwale, haufinyane tjena, sena se eketsehile haholo. Jwale re na le ho futhumala ha lefatshe le dihele tsa tlelaemete. 02:19.989 --> 02:25.870 Mme Mongoli-Kakaretso wa Machaba a Kopaneng, Guterres, o hlalositse hantle – "ho pheha ho lefatshe ka bophara". 02:25.870 --> 02:27.971 Ke qotsa polelo ea hae mona: 02:27.971 --> 02:34.560 Mehla ea ho futhumala ha lefats'e e felile. Mehleng ea ho pheha ha lefats'e e qalile. 02:34.560 --> 02:36.180 Mme ke na le ya pele. 02:36.180 --> 02:40.463 Jwale ke tla le bontsha seo a hlileng a se buileng ka nako eo: 02:40.463 --> 02:43.323 Mehla ea ho futhumala ha lefats'e e felile. 02:43.323 --> 02:47.883 Mehla ea ho chesa ho hoholo ha lefatše e fihlile. 02:47.883 --> 02:50.516 Moya ha o kene. 02:50.516 --> 02:52.922 Mocheso o ke ke wa mamelloa. 02:52.922 --> 02:57.080 Mme boemo ba phaello ya mafura a fosile le ho se nke kgato kgahlanong le phetoho ya tlelaemete ha bo amohelehe. 02:57.080 --> 02:58.816 (…) Empa o ile a bua lintho tse 'maloa. 02:58.816 --> 03:03.600 Moya o ke ke wa hemuwa. Mme mocheso o ke ke wa mamelleha. 03:03.600 --> 03:08.181 Empa se neng se nmakalitse ka ho fetisisa ke hore o buile sena ka pel'a Seboka se Akaretsang sa Machaba a 03:08.181 --> 03:10.720 Kopaneng kaofela ka Phupu selemong se fetileng (2023). 03:10.720 --> 03:14.412 Mme hape ho ne ho ena le baemedi ba bangata ba mecha ya phatlalatso ba le teng, mme seo sa amohelwa feela. 03:14.412 --> 03:16.892 Ha ho motho ea buileng letho. 03:16.892 --> 03:24.316 Mme jwale nka rata ho qotsa Will Happer: "O tsube eng?" 03:28.988 --> 03:31.620 Ha re feteleng pele hona joale. 03:31.620 --> 03:35.802 Lentswe le leng le batlang le le letjha ke tsietsi ya tlelaemete. 03:35.802 --> 03:38.960 Jwale tsohle ke tsietsi feela. 03:38.960 --> 03:45.480 Mme hape ke motlholoi wa tsietsi ya tlelaemete mecheng yohle ya phatlalatso ya Austria. 03:50.336 --> 03:55.801 Mme mang kapa mang ya jwale a reng, ema hanyane, taba eo e ka ba fapane hanyane, o bitswa hanghang 03:55.801 --> 03:59.020 motlhokomolosi, motlhokomolosi wa tsietsi ya tlelaemete. 03:59.020 --> 04:00.820 Re tseba hantle hore na e sebedisetswa eng. 04:00.820 --> 04:07.633 Ehlile, sena se sebediswa hobane ho na le batlhaba-dintwa ba Polao e Sehlōhō, mme re bewa sehlopheng se le seng le bona. 04:07.633 --> 04:10.940 Mona lefatšeng la puo ea Sejeremane, ho na le ntho e mano. 04:10.940 --> 04:13.747 Ena ke se bitsoang Marangrang a Boralitaba ba Tlelaemete. 04:13.747 --> 04:17.482 Baqolotsi ba litaba le litsebi tsa mecha ea litaba ba makholo a 'maloa ba sebetsa moo. 04:17.482 --> 04:21.822 E hlakisa hore na ke mantsoe afe a lokelang ho sebelisoa. 04:21.822 --> 04:25.248 Batho ha ba sa sebedisa polelwana 'phetolo ya tlelaemete'; e se e sa bontshe kotsi e tebileng. 04:25.248 --> 04:28.400 Lentswe la tsietsi ya tlelaemete le tlameha ho sebediswa. 04:28.400 --> 04:32.532 Sena ha e le hantle se fana ka bukantswe ya dipolelwana tse dumelletsweng ho netefatsa hore molaetsa o 04:32.532 --> 04:35.202 fihla ka tsela e kgahlang ka hohle kamoo ho ka kgonehang. 04:35.202 --> 04:39.140 Mme ke bua sena hobane ho boetse ho na le ba hlophisang ba tsoang ho ORF ba teng. 04:39.140 --> 04:41.760 Mme re tla hlalosa hore na hobaneng sena se le bohlokwa. (...) 04:41.760 --> 04:47.750 Mme he, ehlile, ho na le mecha ea litaba ea sechaba, moo bacha ka ho khetheha ba batlang ba khomaretse li-skrini tsa bona 04:47.750 --> 04:52.238 'me ba fumana tlhahisoleseling ea bona kaofela ho tsoa ho eona. 04:52.238 --> 04:54.920 Re boetse re na le mecha e meng ea phatlalatso naheng ea Austria. 04:54.920 --> 04:57.440 (…) Ba na le mefuta e mengata haholo. 04:57.440 --> 05:01.412 Leha ho le jwalo, setjhaba ka kakaretso se qoba mecha ena ya phatlalatso hobane le yona e bitswa 05:01.412 --> 05:04.800 ya maikutlo a feteletseng a lehlakore le letona. 05:04.800 --> 05:09.500 Mme ntho e mpe ka ho fetisisa naheng ea Austria ke likolo le liunivesithi. 05:09.500 --> 05:15.035 Ke phatlalatso ea maikutlo feela, ho kenya mehopolo ka qobello le mehopolo ea ideoloji... 05:15.035 --> 05:17.248 Hoo ha ho kgolwehe. 05:17.248 --> 05:18.840 Ha ho kgolwehe se etsahalang! 05:18.840 --> 05:23.925 Ha ke utlwisise ho hang hore seo se ka kgonahala jwang. Ho nna, tsena ha di sa le diyunivesithi. 05:23.925 --> 05:27.578 Ke ithutetse univesithing, Univesithi ea Theknoloji ea Vienna. 05:27.578 --> 05:32.070 Empa se etsahalang matsatsing ana, ha e le hantle ho tloha ka Bologna, ha ba se ba hlahisitse 05:32.070 --> 05:34.097 tsamaiso ena, tsena ha e sa le diyunivesithi ho nna. 05:34.097 --> 05:40.800 Hobane tokoloho ea lipatlisiso le tokoloho ea ho ruta ha li sa le teng, bonyane ho tloha seoa sa coronavirus. 05:40.800 --> 05:45.233 Hona joale nka rata ho bua ka bokgutshwane ka tshebeletso ya phatlalatso ya naha, hobane re nka kgato kgahlanong le yona. 05:45.233 --> 05:50.330 Mona, e bitsoa Austrian Broadcasting Corporation – ORF. 05:50.330 --> 05:56.096 Mme e na le dikanale tsena: ORF1, ORF 2 le ORF III. 05:56.096 --> 06:01.525 Mona, o ntse o ka amohela hantle haholo mecha ea phatlalatso ea 'muso oa Jeremane, hammoho 06:01.525 --> 06:04.609 le liteishene tse ngata tsa poraefete, ehlile. 06:04.609 --> 06:11.460 Ke batla feela ho o bontša – ena ke phuputso ea selemo sena, phihlello ea liteishene tsena ka Hlakubele. 06:11.460 --> 06:13.640 Hona joale ke hoo e ka bang mashome a mane. 06:13.640 --> 06:17.506 Ha re shebisisa, ho ba leshome ba kaholimo, re bona hore: 06:17.506 --> 06:24.221 ORF 2 e fihlella batho ba bangata ka ho fetisisa, 'me 20% ea Maostria e e shebella letsatsi le letsatsi. 06:24.221 --> 06:28.185 Ke hobane ke moo ho phatlalatswang seo ho thweng ke "ditaba". 06:28.185 --> 06:31.967 Kahoo ke moo propaganda e nang le kelello e sebetsang teng, ha re ka rialo. 06:31.967 --> 06:34.140 ORF 1 ke e 'ngoe. 06:34.140 --> 06:42.684 Mme ho a kgahla, ho kgahla haholo, sebakeng sa boraro ke mohasi ya hlokolosi ServusTV, e lekane le ZDF. 06:42.684 --> 06:46.782 Mme ha o ka shebisisa, ORF III ha e yo. 06:46.782 --> 06:52.012 Ke buile le batho bana fonong, ke ba botsa hore na hobaneng. Kahoo ho na le k'hamphani e 06:52.012 --> 06:55.611 bokellang datha ena. Hobaneng ORF III e sa kenyelletsoa? 06:55.611 --> 07:01.180 Ka lebaka le bohlale, hobane ke kanale e nyane haholo e turang ea ORF: "E ncha haholo, o tlameha ho e sireletsa 07:01.180 --> 07:05.428 khahlanong le khatello ea litekanyetso tsa bashebelli." 07:05.428 --> 07:09.395 Empa e se e sebeditse ka dilemo tse 15. 07:09.395 --> 07:19.760 Empa ke ile ka fumana moqoqong le bona hore ORF III e ho 2.8%. (...) Kea utlwisisa hore na ke hobaneng ba batla ho e hatella. 07:19.760 --> 07:24.347 Ba na le tekanyetso e kholo haholo, 'me seo ha se hlalose letho ka lethathamo lena. 07:24.347 --> 07:26.820 Mme ke sona seo ba batlang ho se pata ka tsela ena. (...) 07:26.820 --> 07:30.094 Joale, phorapaganda e sebetsa joang, hape e ikemiselitse ho fihlella eng? 07:30.094 --> 07:37.667 Seo e hlileng e batlang ho se fihlela ke ho hlahisa tumellano – e leng ea seo ba nang le matla kapa mmuso ba se batlang. 07:37.667 --> 07:40.814 Poleloana e tummeng ea Senyesemane ke "Manufacturing Consent". 07:40.814 --> 07:44.192 Karabo ea ka ho sena ke: "Tumellano ea etsoa". 07:44.192 --> 07:50.125 Kahoo o susumetsa batho ka tsela eo ba dumellanang le seo ba lokelang ho dumellana le sona. 07:50.125 --> 07:50.740 Mme seo se sebetsa jwang? 07:50.740 --> 07:52.695 E mabapi le maikutlo. 07:52.695 --> 07:58.755 Kamehla o na le maikutlo ka hare ho wena, hobane a tima monahano o tebileng, a a thiba. 07:58.755 --> 08:02.792 Sena se kotsi haholo hobane ha re kgone ho itshireletsa kgahlanong le sona. 08:02.792 --> 08:06.620 Sena ke hobane tlhahisoleseding eo e kena ka hara kelello ya rona e sa eleng hloko. 08:06.620 --> 08:09.888 Mme kelello e ke ke ya e tima. (...) 08:09.888 --> 08:16.480 Se etsahalang se fosahetse haholo, mme se tsamaellana le thibelo ea tlhahisoleseling. 08:16.480 --> 08:22.253 Hobane hang ha o se o kentse batho kelellong, re ka rialo, ka tsela e itseng, o tlameha ho ba thibela ho utlwa 08:22.253 --> 08:25.465 maikutlo a fapaneng kapa ho fumana temohisiso e nngwe. 08:25.465 --> 08:29.810 Ho na le liteko tse ling tse tummeng haholo tse bontšang hore batho ba ka susumetsoa ho etsa lintho 08:29.810 --> 08:32.020 khahlanong le litumelo tsa bona, ha re ka rialo. 08:32.020 --> 08:35.576 Empa haeba motho a le mong feela sehlopheng sa teko a hlahisa maikutlo a fapaneng ka tšohanyetso, 08:35.576 --> 08:37.480 joale bongata bo tla fetola mehopolo ea bona kapele. 08:37.480 --> 08:39.120 Ke ka lebaka leo bohle re thibelwang. 08:39.120 --> 08:44.140 Ho thehilwe phalliso e bitsoang e patisaneng haholo ya maikutlo. 08:44.140 --> 08:47.796 Ke maikutlo feela. Mme ha ho na taba hore na ke maikutlo afe. 08:47.796 --> 08:53.963 Tsena ka sebele li ka ba tse ntle, joalo ka cheseho le thabo e fetisisang le tse ling, eng kapa eng e ka bang teng. 08:53.963 --> 08:59.586 Mme se bohlokwa ho rona hona jwale, haholoholo tabeng ya phetoho ya tlelaemete, ke sena: "Ke e mong wa batho ba lokileng; 08:59.586 --> 09:02.868 ke mosireletsi ya mafolofolo ka ho fetisisa wa tlelaemete." 09:02.868 --> 09:04.474 Ke ka lebaka leo kaofela ba bapalang hantle. 09:04.474 --> 09:07.860 - Ehlile, ho boetse ho na le maikutlo a fosahetseng – lehloeo, la bohlokoa haholo. 09:07.860 --> 09:11.414 Maikutlo a bohlokoahali a ho tima monahano oa hau ke tšabo. 09:11.414 --> 09:16.320 Ke ka lebaka leo tshabo e dulang e le ntho ya pele e hlahang. 09:16.320 --> 09:21.230 Ka lebaka la mekgwa ena, bohle ba bang ba dumellanang le nna jwale, moo ke seng ke dumela hore ke na le 09:21.230 --> 09:23.980 maikutlo a nepahetseng, bohle ba bang ke batho ba babe. 09:23.980 --> 09:27.742 Kahoo nna ke e mong wa batho ba lokileng mme ba bang ke batho ba sa lokang. 09:27.742 --> 09:30.088 Mme seo se bapalilwe hantle haholo. 09:30.088 --> 09:31.820 Ba ntse ba itlhakisa ka lilemo tse fetang lekholo. 09:31.820 --> 09:34.365 Hoo ho itshetlehile ka dihlopha tse lebisitsweng, ehlile. 09:34.365 --> 09:39.578 Kahoo batho ba fapaneng ba arabela melaetsa ka tsela e fapaneng. 09:39.578 --> 09:40.980 Tšabo, leha ho le joalo, ke ntho e akaretsang tsohle. 09:40.980 --> 09:44.760 O ka sebedisa tshabo ha o ka e hlahisa; hoo ho hotle haholo. 09:44.760 --> 09:48.032 E koala hang-hang monahano o tebileng. 09:48.032 --> 09:50.613 Ntho ea bohlokoa ke hore joale o tlameha ho kopanya sena sohle ka nepo. 09:50.613 --> 09:53.780 Ebe o fumana diphetho tse ntle ka ho fetisisa. 09:53.780 --> 09:56.913 Ke motho ea atamelang bahanyetsi ba rona. 09:56.913 --> 10:02.509 Ke ea liketsahalong tse hlophisitsoeng ke sehlotšoana sa tlelaemete, ba-ayatollah ba tlelaemete, joalokaha ke ba bitsa. 10:02.509 --> 10:06.220 Dithuto tsa bona di hlophisitswe ka tsela eo kamehla tshabo e hlahiswang pele. 10:06.220 --> 10:10.980 Ho hobe haholo, dihele tsa tlelaemete le tsohle tse tsamaeang le tsona, mme dikgohola di ntse di eketseha. 10:10.980 --> 10:14.269 Mme ke moo mohato o latelang o qalehang teng. Mme ebe ke hore: Ke phoso ya rona. 10:14.269 --> 10:20.620 Ha e le hantle re bolela hore ke molato oa lona, lona ba mametseng. Ebe bohle ba ikutloa ba le molato. 10:20.620 --> 10:25.810 Mme jwale o re: Empa jwale Mopholosi o a tla, ya tla le bolella seo le lokelang ho se etsa. 10:25.810 --> 10:28.360 Ho na le seo nka se kenyang letsoho ho rarolla bothata. 10:28.360 --> 10:31.558 Nka thusa ho etsa bonnete ba hore ntho ena e mpe ha e etsahale. 10:31.558 --> 10:33.785 Ke tlameha feela ho etsa karolo ea ka bakeng sa ts'ireletso ea tlelaemete. 10:33.785 --> 10:38.463 Ke tlameha ho khanna koloi ea motlakase, mohlala, hobane ka tsela eo ke sireletsa tlelaemete. 10:38.463 --> 10:42.623 Mme ke nna ya etsang dintho tse ntle; ke e mong wa batho ba lokileng. 10:42.623 --> 10:44.740 Ntlha ke eo. Ke kamoo e sebetsang kateng. 10:44.740 --> 10:47.156 Ke utloile sena se buuwa dithutong tse mmalwa. 10:47.156 --> 10:50.720 Hoo ke hlekehleke ruri. NLP = neuro-linguistic programming. 10:50.720 --> 10:52.743 Mme batho ba hoheloa hang-hang. 10:52.743 --> 10:55.760 Ebe le bona ba thaba haholo hore ebe ba hlokometse kamoo ho leng kotsi kateng. 10:55.760 --> 10:59.243 U batla ho etsetsa moloko o tlang ho hong. (...) 10:59.243 --> 11:03.643 Mme jwalo ka ha ke boletse, ho na le kgahlamelo ya bonngwe hara batho ba seng ba hipnotisitswe ka 11:03.643 --> 11:05.840 tsela ya marang-rang, mme ba bontshana bonngwe: 11:05.840 --> 11:11.106 Kaofela ha rona re batho ba lokileng, mme re tlameha – ke pheta – re tlameha ho loantša ba bang ka 11:11.106 --> 11:14.336 matla a maholo. Mme joale, ntho ea bohlokoa haholo: 11:14.336 --> 11:20.220 Propaganda e bonolo haholo ho e lemoha. U ka tseba hang-hang hore ke propaganda. 11:20.220 --> 11:23.160 Hobane qetellong tsohle di itshetlehile ka maikutlo. O tlameha ho itlhokomela. 11:23.160 --> 11:28.740 Ha ke utlwa molaetsa kapa eng kapa eng, ke tlameha ho ela hloko bo-nna. 11:28.740 --> 11:33.060 Mme haeba ke arabela ka maikutlo, ho sa tsotellehe hore na jwang, jwale ke propaganda. 11:33.060 --> 11:38.871 Sena se etsoa ka boomo e le hore ke arabe ka maikutlo. Hobane, joalokaha ke boletse, seo se thibela monahano oa ka. 11:38.871 --> 11:42.851 Ho nka nakoana ho tloaela. O tlameha ho hlile o be le kelello ka hona. 11:42.851 --> 11:46.400 Ehlile, phetapheto ke ntlha ya bohlokwa haholo. 11:46.400 --> 11:51.280 Mme e seng feela kgafetsa, empa mecheng yohle ya phatlalatso ka nako e le nngwe. 11:51.280 --> 11:57.910 Ho etsa hore bohle ba lumellane, e le hore maikutlo a mang a se ke a tsebahala. Hobane seo se ka etsa hore 11:57.910 --> 12:06.584 batho ba nang le pelaelo e nyenyane ka hare ho bona ba tlohele hang-hang maikutlo a lakatsehang. 12:06.584 --> 12:12.854 Sena se bolela hore ho na le nnete e le 'ngoe feela, 'me lipotso tse hlahlobang, joalokaha ke boletse, ha lia lumelloa, hobane 12:12.854 --> 12:16.334 ha oa lumelloa ho kheloha tseleng e behiloeng ea maikutlo. 12:16.334 --> 12:18.260 (…) Ho lokile, mme jwale ho ya lebang la nnete la ntwa. 12:18.260 --> 12:21.760 Jwalokaha ke boletse, ke lenaneo la bopaki le buang ka Mehla ya Leqhoa e Nyenyane. 12:21.760 --> 12:26.368 E ile ea qhoma qetellong ea selemo se fetileng (29 Tšitoe 2023) ka nako ea metsotso e mashome a mararo a metso e robeli. 12:26.368 --> 12:27.995 Mme hoo ho a kgahla haholo. 12:27.995 --> 12:33.500 Jwale ke tla bapala motsotso wa pele, kenyelletso ya lenaneo lena: 12:33.500 --> 12:37.600 "Boemo ba lehodimo bo bonahala bo ikopantse khahlanong le bona. 12:37.600 --> 12:43.160 Boemo ba lehodimo bo batang le bo mong le ho hloleha ha lijalo li tla nka nako e kae? 12:43.160 --> 12:47.257 Mme na ba tla kgona ho hlokomela bana ba bona bohle? 12:48.817 --> 12:58.213 Ho bonahala ho se letho le sa lokang kamoreng pakeng tsa batho le tlhaho qetellong ea lekholo la bo16 la lilemo. 12:58.213 --> 13:03.929 Lerōrō le matla le thothometsa Vienna esita le ho senya Kereke e Kholo ea St. Stephen. 13:03.929 --> 13:11.509 Maqhubu a serame le maemo a leholimo a feteletseng a etsa hore Mehla e Nyane ea Leqhoa e be teko e boima ho batho. 13:11.509 --> 13:21.135 Mokgobo ka hara setjhaba o ile wa bula monyako bakeng sa boiphedisō ba Yuropa mathoasong a lekgolo la bo17 la dilemo. 13:41.980 --> 13:48.705 Kahoo o a bona, ho tshwana le e nngwe ya difilimi tseo tsa tshohanyetso tsa Roland Emmerich – maemo a 13:48.705 --> 13:52.340 tsosang maikutlo haholo, a tshosang, a bakang tshabo. 13:52.340 --> 13:56.884 Mme ha e le hantle, ke yona taba e ka sehloohong e tsamaeang le filimi ena yohle, e ipitsang "filimi ya bopaki". 13:56.884 --> 14:03.186 Hona joale ho na le likarolo tse phetang tse nang le seo ho thoeng ke "bo-ramahlale". Hona joale lifiliming 14:03.186 --> 14:07.312 tsena ho hlahisoa seo ho thoeng ke "liphuputso tsa mahlale". 14:07.312 --> 14:09.280 Monna (Roland Weißmann) ke wa bohlokwa. 14:09.280 --> 14:17.177 Ke monna ea ikhohomosang, ke Motsamaisi Kakaretso oa ORF – ke tla hlalosa hore na hobaneng hoo e le habohlokoa. 14:17.177 --> 14:22.360 Kahoo, re na le filimi ena ea koluoa, 'me tsena joale ke lintlha tsa saense. 14:22.360 --> 14:29.947 Mme filiming ena – mme ena ke ntlha e ka sehloohong ya tletlebo ya rona – ho na le digerafu tsa thempereichara. 14:29.947 --> 14:35.668 Ebe li bontšoa ka setjhini sa studio, moo moqolotsi a hlahang – filimi e telele e amang maikutlo e sitisoa 14:35.668 --> 14:41.840 khafetsa ke likaroloana tse khutšoane tse joalo – 'me setšoantšo sa pele se shebahala tjena: 14:41.840 --> 14:47.173 Tsena ke lithempereichara tsa lilemo tse 2000 tse fetileng, 'me li bontša ka nepo linako tseo, e leng Nako 14:47.173 --> 14:52.145 ea Mocheso ea Maroma, Nako ea Mocheso ea Mehla e Bohareng le Mehla e Menyenyane ea Leqhoa. 14:52.145 --> 15:02.600 - Mme he, e tshwana le thupa ya hockey e menahaneng ka bone, - ebe e nyoloha ka matla haholo mme o ka bona le mebala. 15:02.600 --> 15:08.222 - Pele ho tsohle, setšoantšo sohle se shebahala se sekametse haholo ponong ea sebaka, hoo nako ea joale e bontšitsoeng e le 15:08.222 --> 15:13.022 kholoanyane, ka mebala e sekametseng ho bofubelu bo khanyang – 'me, ha o ka shebisisa, botenya ba mola bo 15:13.022 --> 15:16.282 boetse bo eketseha ha bo atamela pheletso, ka mantsoe a mang. 15:16.282 --> 15:25.561 Empa se sebe le ho feta ke hore ha e bontsha dilemo tse 12,000 tsa ho qetela, e shebahala tjena. 15:25.561 --> 15:32.324 E, ke bohlanya bo feletseng, mme ho ntse ho ba betere le ho feta, ha re ka rialo. 15:32.324 --> 15:35.337 O bua ho hong ka hona. 15:35.337 --> 15:41.759 O re: Tlhōrō ea ho qetela mona holimo, o bolela ena, e khubelu ka ho feletseng, ke rona. 15:41.759 --> 15:46.459 Ha a re, "Ke moo re leng teng, ha e le hantle ke tatellano ea liketsahalo ka nako," re tlameha ho re moo, che, o bua joalo. 15:46.459 --> 15:50.991 Ha e le hantle o fana ka maikutlo a hore: Ke rona re bakileng sena, ke rona ba lokelang ho qoswa. 15:50.991 --> 15:53.771 Ke bolela hore, ha o dumele hore mekgwabo ena e ka hare. 15:53.771 --> 16:00.413 - Ha o ka shebisisa, hoa qabola hore e re li-degree tsa Celsius; - kahoo o ka bona kamoo e sa etswang hantle kateng. 16:00.413 --> 16:04.543 Ha o sheba sekalara, se seng ke +1.4° mme se seng ke +1.5°. 16:04.543 --> 16:07.696 Ka hona, sena ha se fihlelle litekanyetso life kapa life tsa saense ho hang. 16:07.696 --> 16:12.180 Ho bohlokoa ho supa sena hobane le ORF e tlamehile ho fana ka mosebetsi oa boleng bo holimo. 16:12.180 --> 16:14.193 Sena se laetsoe ke molao. 16:14.193 --> 16:16.320 Kahoo ke kamoo e shebahalang kateng. 16:16.320 --> 16:22.080 Mme e seng moo feela – ke sona sehlohlolo sa lenaneo lena la bopaki, ha re ka rialo. 16:22.080 --> 16:24.861 Ho na le lintho tse ling tse ngata moo tse fosahetseng ka ho feletseng. 16:24.861 --> 16:32.572 Mme ke lona lebaka la hore re re: Emang hanyane, ke leshano le leholo leo, ke phatlalatso ya maipikisetsi, re tla iphetetsa. 16:32.572 --> 16:35.152 Mme re le thibela jwang? 16:35.152 --> 16:39.005 Ho na le seo ho tsejoang e le tletlebo ea sechaba, joalo ka ha e bitsoa Austria. 16:39.005 --> 16:47.488 Kahoo mang kapa mang ya dumelang hore ORF ha e so ikobele Molao wa ORF, oo ke tlang ho o bua hamorao, a ka isa tletlebo ho 16:47.488 --> 16:52.088 bolaodi bo loketseng, e leng Bolaodi ba Dipuisano ba Austria. 16:52.088 --> 16:56.855 O na le libeke tse tšeletseng kamora lenaneo ho kenya tletlebo ena. 16:56.855 --> 17:00.378 Sena se etswa boima hanyane hobane o tlameha ho fumana ditekanyetso tse 120 tsa 17:00.378 --> 17:03.440 tshehetso ka hare ho dibeke tsena tse tsheletseng. 17:03.440 --> 17:07.149 Mme hangata o hloka ho ba le ho feta moo, hobane ka mabaka a semmuso, ORF ebe e re 17:07.149 --> 17:09.320 karolo ea 20 lekholong ea tsona ha e nepahetse. 17:09.320 --> 17:13.450 Kahoo hangata re tlisa tse 200. Haeba re na le tšehetso e ngata, ha se tletlebo ea pele ea ORF, ka 17:13.450 --> 17:15.984 linako tse ling re bile re ba le liteke tse 1,000. 17:15.984 --> 17:18.157 Kahoo seo ha se bothata ho rona re le sehlopha. 17:18.157 --> 17:23.319 Empa o tlameha ho lokisa seo pele, hobane batho ba tlameha ho kenya nomoro ya bona ya monehelo wa ORF. 17:23.319 --> 17:27.862 Mme ha o ya ketsahalong e nang le tafole ya ho saena mme o re, ka mohlala, 'Ena ke tletlebo ya rona, ka kopo 17:27.862 --> 17:32.252 saena', batho ba thabela ho saena – empa ke mang ya tsebang nomoro ya bona ya tlatsetso ya ORF? 17:32.252 --> 17:34.832 Jwale re tlameha ho ba bolella hore ba re romelle lengolo-tsoibila, mme seo, ka 17:34.832 --> 17:37.243 bomadimabe, se tla tlosa pedi-tharong ya batho. 17:37.243 --> 17:41.103 Ka bomadimabe, leha ba ingodisitse, ha ba kgone ho romela nomoro ya bona. 17:41.103 --> 17:44.260 Empa hangata re atleha ho hlola tšitiso ena ea semmuso. 17:44.260 --> 17:50.480 Re tlameha ho hlakisa hantle hore na ke karolo efe ea Molao oa ORF, kapa esita le karolwana efe, e tlōtsoeng. 17:50.480 --> 17:53.626 Mme he, ehlile, re tlameha ho lokafatsa tletlebo. 17:53.626 --> 17:59.516 Jwalokaha ke boletse, ke lehlohonolo haholo ho ba metswalle ya babuelli ba molao ba hloahloa ba re thusang ka taba ena, e le 17:59.516 --> 18:07.859 hore re ka e hlophisa hantle ho ya ka molao, eseng feela mabapi le taba ka boyona le nyatso, empa hape le ho ya ka pono ya molao. 18:07.859 --> 18:10.866 Tletlebo ena ea sechaba e romelloa hona joale. 18:10.866 --> 18:13.480 Ntho e ntle ke hore ha e na litšenyehelo tsa 'nete. 18:13.480 --> 18:18.261 Kahoo o ka kenya tletlebo ntle le ho lefa ditefello dife kapa dife. 18:18.261 --> 18:20.080 Hape ha ho na tlamo ya ho hira 'muelli wa molao. 18:20.080 --> 18:23.180 Kahoo haeba o nahana hore o lekane, o ka mpa wa e etsa feela. 18:23.180 --> 18:26.434 E hloka feela nako ea motho, eseng chelete. 18:26.434 --> 18:36.378 Ebe, hang ha tšitiso ea semmuso e hlotsoe, KommAustria e romela tletlebo ho ORF 'me joale babuelli ba molao ba fana ka polelo. 18:36.378 --> 18:41.750 - Ebe nna kapa 'muelli oa molao re tla ngola karabo, - 'me sena se tla fapanyetsanoa ka mongolo makhetlo a 'maloa. 18:41.750 --> 18:45.660 Leha ho le jwalo, kamora dikgwedi tse tsheletseng ho ya hodimo, bolaodi bona, KommAustria, bo tlameha ho etsa qeto. 18:45.660 --> 18:48.080 Sena se bitsoa "qeto" naheng ea Austria. 18:48.080 --> 18:53.390 - Sena se bohlokoa ho latela molao hobane joale se ka phephetsoa; - se ka isoa boemong bo latelang. 18:53.390 --> 18:58.300 Ka ho re, ho lokile, e kanna ea e-ba qeto, empa kamehla ho na le mokhoa oa boipiletso. 18:58.300 --> 19:03.823 Empa pele ke fihla moo, ha re shebisise Molao oa ORF. 19:03.823 --> 19:07.463 Mosebetsi oa sebele oa ORF ke ofe? 19:07.463 --> 19:12.720 U ka e bala hona joale. Ke tlhahisoleseding e batsi bakeng sa setjhaba ka kakaretso, jj. 19:12.720 --> 19:18.816 - Mme moo ho ngotswe "poelano le kgothaletso ya saense" – ke morero wa yona o ka sehloohong. 19:18.816 --> 19:22.760 Ke boikarabello ba hae ho etsa jwalo. Le dintho tse ding tse ngata tsa mefuta yohle. 19:22.760 --> 19:25.328 Ke tla e tlohela jwalo ha jwale. 19:25.328 --> 19:29.023 Ha ho bohlokoa hore ke bale sena ka botlalo hona joale. 19:29.023 --> 19:31.970 Leha ho le jwalo, esale ke totobatsa mantswe a bohlokwa. 19:31.970 --> 19:36.545 Mme hape ho na le ditaelo tse hlakileng haholo mabapi le hore na lenaneo le lokela ho hlophiswa jwang. 19:36.545 --> 19:39.380 Mme hantle ka hodimo, ho se ho ngotswe "kgetho ya sepheo". 19:39.380 --> 19:42.560 Kahoo, lentsoe 'objective' le hlaha ka lekhetlo la pele. 19:42.560 --> 19:46.836 Mme ebe ho thwe maikutlo a nyatsang le ona a lokela ho bontshwa. 19:46.836 --> 19:49.503 Ho nahanela phapano 19:49.503 --> 19:51.156 O tlamehile ho etsa jwalo ka molao. 19:51.156 --> 19:57.280 Tlasenyana, ho boetse ho ngotsoe: Maikutlo, tlhahlobo, jj. Melao-motheo ea ho se nke lehlakore. 19:57.280 --> 20:00.620 Mona re bona lentswe 'ho se nke lehlakore' hape. 20:00.620 --> 20:07.682 Mme hape ho na le dikarolwana tse ding hape mabapi le kamoo a lokelang ho hlophisa dikahare. 20:07.682 --> 20:09.780 Joale ho ngotswe boleng. 20:09.780 --> 20:13.520 Ke ka lebaka leo ke e boletseng setšoantšong. Etsoe, setšoantšo ke motlae. 20:13.520 --> 20:17.300 Mohlala, ha ho mohlodi o fanoeng bakeng sa datha e sebedisitsweng kgrafong ena. 20:17.300 --> 20:21.000 O a tseba hore, (...) nka se ke ka beha feela setšoantšo sefe kapa sefe moo. 20:21.000 --> 20:29.219 - Joale o tlameha ho ba ya akaretsang, ya ikemetseng, ya sa nkeng lehlakore, mme hape, a se na leeme; - o tlameha 20:29.219 --> 20:36.540 ho hlahloba nnete le mohlodi ka hloko, mme o tlameha ho itshwarella nneteng e ka netefatswang. 20:36.540 --> 20:40.360 Mme – e tlameha ho kenya letsoho thutong ya setjhaba. 20:40.360 --> 20:42.080 Tsohle li ntle haholo hona joale. 20:42.080 --> 20:46.240 Kahoo ha a ka etsa jwalo, re ne re ka ba le mecha ya phatlalatso e hlwahlwa haholo naheng ya Austria. 20:46.240 --> 20:48.476 Empa ha se seo a se etsang! 20:48.476 --> 20:50.660 Jwale re fihla ntlheng. 20:50.660 --> 20:54.465 - Ho na le seo ho thoeng ke phetisetso ea nyeoe, ke hore, bolaoli ba pele. KommAustria e tla etsa qeto nakong ea 20:54.465 --> 20:56.709 likhoeli tse tšeletseng ho tloha ha nyeoe e fihla ho eona. 20:56.709 --> 20:59.260 Mme jwale re dula re ya ketsahalong ya bobedi. 20:59.260 --> 21:02.520 Hobane ha ORF e hloloa, e ipiletsa ho bolaodi bo phahameng ho feta. 21:02.520 --> 21:05.296 Eo ke Lekgotla la Tsamaiso la Federale. 21:05.296 --> 21:10.444 Mme haeba nna kapa sehlopha sa rona re hloloa, re nka taba hang-hang ho e isa boemong bo latelang. 21:10.444 --> 21:11.710 Mme seo ha e le hantle se setle haholo. 21:11.710 --> 21:14.250 Ena ke sehlopha sa baahlodi ba bararo. 21:14.250 --> 21:17.360 E ngotswe lentswe ka lentswe. 21:17.360 --> 21:25.279 Lipaki li ka boleloa ka mabitso, 'me litšenyehelo tsa lekhotla hape li tlase haholo, ke li-euro tse 30 feela. 21:25.279 --> 21:27.060 Bothata bo le bong feela ke litšenyehelo tse amehang. 21:27.060 --> 21:32.402 Leha o ka hlola, o ntse o sala le ditshenyehelo tsa hao tsa molao, haeba o na le ditsebi le tse ding tse jwalo. 21:32.402 --> 21:33.760 Ka bomadimabe, ho jwalo mona Austria. 21:33.760 --> 21:37.736 Empa ho joalo le molaong oa botlokotsebe mona Austria. 21:39.522 --> 21:43.260 Ebe ho na le bolaoli bo phahameng – ke bona bolaoli bo phahameng ka ho fetisisa. 21:43.260 --> 21:45.880 Mona Austria, e lula e bitsoa Lekhotla la Toka. 21:45.880 --> 21:53.411 Tabeng ena, ke Lekhotla la Tsamaiso, mme ka thoko ho lona, leha ka sebele le ikemetse, ho na le Lekhotla la Molaotheo, 21:53.411 --> 22:00.320 moo motho a ka tletlebang, mohlala, hore dipehelo tse itseng Molaong wa ORF ha di tsamaelane le molaotheo. 22:00.320 --> 22:06.220 Kahoo ha o hlasele taba ka kotloloho, empa o re: Molao ona oa motheo ha o tsamaellane le molaotheo. 22:06.220 --> 22:08.672 Kapa mokgwa ka boona o na le diphoso. 22:08.672 --> 22:09.780 O ntse o ka amohela seo. 22:09.780 --> 22:11.020 Leo hape ke lekgotla la molao. 22:11.020 --> 22:16.480 Ke lekhotla le phahameng ka ho fetisisa ka kakaretso – Lekhotla la Molao oa Motheo, lekhotla le phahameng ka ho fetisisa. 22:16.480 --> 22:17.940 Phihlelo ea rona ke efe? 22:17.940 --> 22:22.399 Kahoo ena ha se ketso ea pele ea molao e amanang le tlelaemete eo re e nkang khahlanong le ORF. 22:22.399 --> 22:27.886 KommAustria e na le litekanyetso tsa semmuso tse thata haholo, ka litšusumetso tsena le tsohle 22:27.886 --> 22:30.100 tse ling – 'me ho hlakile hore e tšehetsa ORF. 22:30.100 --> 22:34.408 Kahoo o leka ho thibela tletlebo ka hohle kamoo a ka khonang. 22:34.408 --> 22:38.654 O fumana mefuta eohle ya mabaka a hore na ke hobaneng boemo bo lokela ho shejwa ka 22:38.654 --> 22:41.952 tsela e fapaneng ho ya ka pono ya baipiletsang. 22:41.952 --> 22:47.549 Re bile le maiphihlelo a matle haholo le lekala la bobeli, e leng Lekhotla la Tsamaiso la Federale – bonyane 22:47.549 --> 22:50.365 le dihlopha tsa baahlodi tseo ke sebeditseng le tsona. 22:50.365 --> 22:57.971 Ho na le baahlodi ba ka bang 35 ba sebetsang moo. Ho na le dinatle tse ngata, mme ha di na lehlakore. 22:57.971 --> 23:00.940 Ts'ebetso e boetse e tsamaisoa ka tsela eo e sa lekeng ho susumetsa sena. 23:00.940 --> 23:02.320 Sena se tlwaelehile haholo makgotleng a ditsheko. 23:02.320 --> 23:07.692 Moahlodi a ka hlile a laola sephetho sa nyeoe haeba e tsamaiswa ka tsela e itseng. 23:07.692 --> 23:15.000 Ho tlwaelehile haholo makgotleng a rona a tsamaiso hore bopaki bo hanwe kapa dipaki di hanwe, ha re ka rialo. 23:15.000 --> 23:19.720 Empa phihlelo ea ka Lekhotleng la Tsamaiso la Federale e bohareng haholo. 23:19.720 --> 23:21.140 Empa jwale ho ba thata. 23:21.140 --> 23:26.843 Dinkgwe tsa rona, ke hore, dinkgwe tse phahameng ka ho fetisisa, kaofela di kgethwa ke sepolotiki. 23:26.843 --> 23:30.100 Mme seo se fedisa ka katleho puso ya molao dibakeng tse ngata. 23:30.100 --> 23:35.234 Hobane haeba ba boholong ba phahameng ka ho fetisisa ba etsang qeto ea ho qetela ba se ba sa tšepahale, kapa ha 23:35.234 --> 23:39.861 ho belaelloa hore na ba hlile ba ikemetse ebile ba sa sekamele, ehlile hoo ke bothata bo boholo. 23:39.861 --> 23:44.740 Haholo-holo Lekhotla la Molao oa Motheo. Ho hlakile hore ba khethiloe ka lipolotiki. 23:44.740 --> 23:48.820 Mme jwale, jwalo ka ha ke boletse, ho na le potso e kgolo: Na a ka ba ya ikemetseng? 23:48.820 --> 23:52.089 Mme nka rata ho bua mantswe a seng makae ka Lekgotla la Molaotheo. 23:52.089 --> 23:56.780 E na le baahlodi ba 14, ke bona. 23:56.780 --> 24:01.126 Mme seo se a thabisa haholo hona jwale, jwalo ka ha ke boletse. 24:01.126 --> 24:08.180 Motho a ka nahana hore baahlodi ba hloahloa naheng ba sebetsa Lekgotleng la Molaotheo. Empa ha ho jwalo ho hang. 24:08.180 --> 24:11.600 Ha ho na leha e le moahloli a le mong oa mehleng har'a bona! 24:11.600 --> 24:13.549 Hantle-ntle hoo ha ho kgolwehe. 24:13.549 --> 24:15.232 Empa ho jwalo. 24:15.232 --> 24:18.656 Ba tlameha ho ba le tsebo ea molao. 24:18.656 --> 24:23.759 Ke dumela hore le bona ba tlameha ba be ba qetile lengolo la thuto, e leng la molao. 24:23.759 --> 24:27.994 Ho na le baprofesa ba bangata ba yunivesithi har'a bona, ke hore, batho ba kileng ba etella pele 24:27.994 --> 24:31.227 setsi sa molao kae kae kapa ba ntseng ba sebetsa. 24:31.227 --> 24:36.095 Mme ho na le basebeletsi ba bangata ba mmuso ba sebetsang e le babuelli ba molao tsamaisong – kapa, se sebe ka ho 24:36.095 --> 24:41.639 fetisisa, ba hape ba sebetsang kapa ba kileng ba sebetsa ka kotloloho maemong a dipolotiki makaleng a tsamaiso. 24:41.639 --> 24:44.080 Hoo ke ho ba haufi haholo ha basebeletsi bana ba mmuso le dipolotiki. 24:44.080 --> 24:49.175 Mme se sebe ka ho fetisisa ke hore ho na le babuelli ba molao ba amehang, bao maemong a mang ba emelang 24:49.175 --> 24:52.633 boradipolotiki kapa mekha ea lipolotiki mosebetsing oa bona. 24:52.633 --> 24:59.480 Kahoo ho hlakile haholo hore Lekgotla la rona la Molaotheo le na le leeme le matla haholo la dipolotiki. 24:59.480 --> 25:03.533 Mme sena se ka amahanngwa le mekgatlo, hobane mekgatlo e na le tokelo ya ho etsa ditshisinyo – 25:03.533 --> 25:05.660 mme tsohle tseo ba di sisinyang di a amohelwa. 25:05.660 --> 25:08.818 Kahoo o ka bona feela hore na matla a abetsoe joang Austria lilemong tse 20 tse fetileng, 25:08.818 --> 25:10.460 le hore na ke mebuso efe e bileng teng moo. 25:10.460 --> 25:15.648 Mme yaba kaofela ba sutumelletsa bakgethwa ba bona, ha re ka rialo, ka Lekgotleng la Molaotheo. 25:15.648 --> 25:22.116 Hantle-ntle, hoo ke bothata bo boholo haholo, hobane – na kannete ba etsa liqeto tse se nang leeme? 25:22.116 --> 25:27.856 Mohlala, nyeoe e sa tsoa phetheloa eo re e hapileng boemong ba pele le boemong ba bobeli. 25:27.856 --> 25:32.680 Ena ke sehlopha sa baahlodi ba bararo. Kahlolo e ntle haholo, maqephe a 24. 25:32.680 --> 25:35.180 Mme yaba ORF e ya Lekgotleng la Molaotheo. 25:35.180 --> 25:38.540 Babueledi ba boletse: Ho lokile, ha e le hantle re hlotsoe nyeoeng ka boeona. 25:38.540 --> 25:42.713 Re ea Lekhotleng la Molao oa Motheo, leo litho tsa lona li khethiloeng ke lipolotiki, 'me ba phethola kahlolo 25:42.713 --> 25:45.040 ea Lekhotla la Tsamaiso ka lebaka le se nang kelello. 25:45.040 --> 25:51.844 Kahoo ha o di bala, o ipotsa, "Banna ba tsube eng hape?" Ha o kgolwe kamoo molao – ke tlameha ho ba 25:51.844 --> 25:56.004 hlokolosi mona – kamoo puso ya molao e seng e sa sebetse. 25:56.004 --> 26:01.012 Ha ke batle ho bua ka ho kgeloswa ha toka, empa ke ntho e makatsang hore ebe ho se ho fanoa ka mabaka a jwalo. 26:01.012 --> 26:06.790 Empa 'muelli a le mong eo ke sebetsang hantle le eena hona joale o tla leka ho isa Lekhotla la rona la Molao oa 26:06.790 --> 26:09.740 Motheo la Austria ka pel'a Lekhotla la Toka la Europe. 26:09.740 --> 26:12.920 Hobane re ntse re na le pheko ena. 26:15.040 --> 26:24.310 Ruri hoa makatsa kamoo ka nako e 'ngoe ..., 'me ka bomalimabe, taolo e phahameng ka ho fetisisa e etsang qeto ea ho qetela. 26:24.310 --> 26:27.760 Ka mokgwa o tshwanang, monna ya matla ka ho fetisisa naheng ke mang? 26:27.760 --> 26:32.257 Mohlanka ea phatlalatsang boemo ba tšohanyetso. E ne e le letona la rona la bophelo bo botle nakong ea tlokotsi ea coronavirus. 26:32.257 --> 26:35.454 Ka tšohanyetso o phatlalatsa boemo ba tšohanyetso 'me joale tsohle li hlakotsoe. Kahoo boemong 26:35.454 --> 26:38.960 ba tšohanyetso, molao oa motheo ha o sa sebetsa. 26:38.960 --> 26:41.300 Re etsa eng hape, ke se ke boletse... 26:41.300 --> 26:46.528 Bamameli ba ratehang, ka tlase ho lenaneo le tla fumana sehokelo sa puo e feletseng. 26:46.528 --> 26:56.380 Re rata ho nka monyetla ona ho leboha sebui Dr Bernhard Strehl le maphephe a EIKE, Heartland Institute le CFACT.