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Kwakhona, kukho isizathu sokutsalela ingqalelo
ekungabikini ngokwaneleyo okubonisiweyo kuxwebhu lwe-ORF.

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KwiNkomfa yeHlabathi ka-2024 ngeMozulu noMbane
eVienna, abathathi-nxaxheba bafunde ngobuntatheli

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bemozulu obuqhathayo, into leyo i-ORF nayo eyithandayo.

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Ngelixa lale nkomfa,

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Kla.TV namhlanje iveza iingcaphulo ezisuka kwintetho
enengqiqo kaGqr. Bernhard Strehl, usomashishini kunye

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nesazi ngefiziksi ogxile kwifiziksi yeathom kunye neyemitha.

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Waba sisigxina kubaphandi bemozulu
base-Austria ngenxa yeentetho zakhe ezingaphezu

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kwama-50 ezisekelwe kakuhle ngesihloko semozulu.

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Ngethuba lengxaki ye-coronavirus, uStrehl
kunye nabahlobo bakhe baseke umbutho i-IMMUN,

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onenjongo ezimbini – yezonyango nezomthetho.

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Ngokungenelela okuninzi okusemthethweni kwinqanaba leenkundla
zolawulo, uStrehl wafunda ukuba akunyanzelekanga ukuba ube

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ligqwetha ukuze umele umntu kwinkundla yolawulo yase-Austria.

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Ngokwezinto azithethileyo, sele emele abantu
abaninzi simahla kwaye wafumana amava kumatyala

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angaphezu kwamashumi amabini kude kube ngoku.

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UStrehl waziwa ngeentethelelo zakhe ezicacileyo.

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Yiyo loo nto onke amaphephandaba ase-Austria ezama ukumcima
isizwi ngokumthiya izibizo ezifana 'noNazi'

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kunye 'nomgqithisi wasekunene'. Isebenza njani
ipropaganda yemozulu kumajelo eendaba aphambili?

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Bukela intetho kaGqr. Strehl enolwazi
oluninzi, ekwimo yayo emfutshane, enesihloko esithi:

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Ipropaganda yemozulu e-Austria. Siyayiphikisa.

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(UBernhard Strehl:) ... igama elithi 'ukufudumala
kwehlabathi' laqala ukusetyenziswa ngokwenene

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kuphela emva kokuba ingxaki ye-coronavirus iphelile.

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Ngesiquphe, ubuncinci apha e-Austria, igama elithi
'ukufudumala kwehlabathi' liqalile ukusetyenziswa.

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Ngaphambili, bekusoloko kubhekiselwa
kuko njengokufudumala kwehlabathi.

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Kwakunjalo ukusukela kwiminyaka yoo-1980.

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Kwathi ke ngequbuliso yaba buthathaka kancinci.

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Ngesiquphe, wonke umntu waqala ukuthetha ngotshintsho lwemozulu.

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Ndiyarhanela ukuba iClimategate idlale indima ethile koku.
Kuba kwanamajelo eendaba amakhulu sele eqaphele into yokuba

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kukho into engalunganga ngokupheleleyo ngale sayensi yemozulu.

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Kwaye ngoku, kutshanje, oku kuye kwanda kakhulu.
Ngoku sinokufudumala kwehlabathi kunye nesihogo semozulu.

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Kwaye uNobhala-Jikelele we-UN uGuterres
uchaze kakuhle – "ukupheka kwehlabathi jikelele".

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Ndiwucaphula umbhalo wakhe apha:

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Ixesha lokufudumala kwehlabathi
liphelile. Ixesha lokuphekwa kwehlabathi liqalile.

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Kwaye ndinayo eyantlandlolo.

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Ngoku ndiza kunibonisa into awayithetha ngokwenene ngelo xesha:

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Ixesha lokufudumala kwehlabathi liphelile.

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Lufikile ixesha lokushisa kwehlabathi jikelele.

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Umoya awunakuphefumlwa.

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Ubushushu abunakunyamezelwa.

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Kwaye izinga lenzuzo yamafutha efosili
nokungathathiwa kwamaqhwithi akwamkelekanga.

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(…) Kodwa wathi izinto ezimbalwa apho.

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Umoya awunakuphefumlwa. Kwaye ubushushu abunakunyamezelwa.

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Kodwa eyona nto yandimangalisa yeyokuba
wathi oku phambi kweNdibano Jikelele ye-UN

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iphela ngoJulayi wonyaka ophelileyo (2023).

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Kwakukho neentsomi ezininzi zamajelo
eendaba ezazikhona, kwaye loo nto yamkelwa nje.

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Akukho mntu uthethileyo.

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Kwaye ngoku ndingathanda ukucaphula
uWill Happer: "Ube etshaya ntoni?"

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Masihambe ngoku.

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Enye into entsha kakhulu yingxaki yemozulu.

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Ngoku yonke into yingxaki nje.

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Kwaye nam ndingumkhanyeli wengxaki
yemozulu kuzo zonke iindaba zase-Austria.

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Kwaye nabani na ngoku othi, yima kancinci, loo
nto ingahluka kancinci, uyalunyukiswa kwangoko,

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athi ngumkhanyeli, umkhanyeli wengxaki yemozulu.

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Siyazi kakuhle ukuba isetyenziselwa ntoni.

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Kakade, oku kusetyenziswa kuba kukho abantu
abangayikholo iHolocaust, kwaye nathi sibekwa kudidi olunye.

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Apha kwilizwe elithetha isiJamani, kukho into enobuqhetseba.

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Le yileyo kuthiwa yiClimate Journalism Network.

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Kuloo ndawo kusebenza amakhulu
aliqela eentatheli neengcali zemidiya.

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Ichaza ukuba ngawaphi amagama ekufuneka asetyenziswe.

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Abantu abasasebenzisi ibinzana elithi
'utshintsho lwemozulu' ngoku; lingenabungozi kakhulu.

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Kufuneka kusetyenziswe igama elithi ingxaki yemozulu.

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Oku ngokwenene kubonelela ngesichazi-magama
samabinzana avumelekileyo ukuqinisekisa ukuba

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umyalezo ufika unomtsalane kangangoko kunokwenzeka.

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Kwaye ndiyikhankanya le nto kuba kukho nabahleli be-ORF abakho.

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Kwaye ke siya kucacisa ukuba kutheni oku kubalulekile. (...)

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Kwaye ke, ngokuqinisekileyo, kukho imidiya yoluntu, apho
abantu abatsha ingakumbi baphantse banamathele kwizikrini

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zabo kwaye bafumana yonke inkcazelo yabo kwimidiya yoluntu.

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Sikwanazo neminye imidiya e-Austria.

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(…) Banoluhlu olubanzi kakhulu.

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Nangona kunjalo, uluntu jikelele luyaziphepha ezi midiya kuba
nazo zibizwa ngokuba zezopolitiko ezigabadeleyo zasekunene.

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Kwaye eyona nto imbi kakhulu e-Austria zizikolo neeyunivesithi.

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Yipropaganda nje, ukufakwa
kweengcinga kunye neengcinga ezingundoqo...

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Akukholeleki.

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Akukholeleki okwenzekayo!

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Andiqondi kwaphela ukuba oko kunokwenzeka
njani. Kum, ezi azisezi ziiyunivesithi.

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Ndafunda kwiyunivesithi, iVienna University of Technology.

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Kodwa okwenzekayo kule mihla, eneneni ukusukela eBologna,
ukusukela oko bazise le nkqubo, ezi aziseeyunivesithi kum.

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Kuba inkululeko yophando nenkululeko yokufundisa
azisekho, ubuncinci ukusukela kubhubhane we-coronavirus.

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Ngoku ndingathanda ukukhankanya ngokufutshane iNkonzo
yoSasazo kaRhulumente, kuba sithatha amanyathelo ngayo.

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Apha, ibizwa ngokuba yi-Austrian Broadcasting Corporation – ORF.

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Kwaye ineezikhululo ezithi: ORF1, ORF 2 kunye ne-ORF III.

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Apha, usenokufumana kakuhle imidiya karhulumente
waseJamani, kunye neetshaneli ezininzi zabucala, ewe.

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Ndifuna nje ukukubonisa – olu luphando lwalo
nyaka, ukufikelela kwezi zikhululo ngoMatshi.

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Ngoku malunga nama-40.

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Ukuba sijonga ngokusondeleyo,
kwishumi eliphezulu masithi, sibona ukuba:

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I-ORF 2 ifikelela kubantu abaninzi kunawo
nawuphi na omnye umabonakude, kwaye i-20%

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yabantu base-Austria iyibukela yonke imihla.

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Kungenxa yokuba kulapho
kudluliselwa khona iindaba ekuthiwa zizindaba.

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Ngoko ke kulapho ke ipropaganda
enengqiqo isebenza khona, masithi.

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I-ORF 1 yenye ke leyo.

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Kwaye ke kuyathakazelisa, kuyathakazelisa
ngokwenene, kwindawo yesithathu kukho isikhululo

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esibalulekileyo iServusTV, ikhuphisana kakhulu neZDF.

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Kwaye ukuba uqwalasela ngokusondeleyo, i-ORF III ayikho.

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Ndithethe nabantu aba emnxebeni, ndibuza ukuba
kutheni. Ngoko ke kukho inkampani eqokelela

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le datha. Kutheni i-ORF III ingabandakanywanga?

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Ngobusela obukrelekrele, kuba sisitishi esincinci
kakhulu nesibizayo se-ORF: "Sisentsha kakhulu,

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kufuneka ukhuselwe kuxinzelelo lwamanani ababukeli."

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Kodwa sele isebenza iminyaka elishumi elinesihlanu.

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Kodwa ndifumanise encokweni nabo ukuba i-ORF III ikwi-2.8%.
(...) Ndiyaqonda ukuba kutheni befuna ukuyicinezela loo nto.

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Banohlahlo-lwabiwo-mali olukhulu, kwaye oko
akukuthetheleli kwaphela olu hlobo lwamaxabiso.

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Kwaye yile nto bafuna ukuyifihla ngale ndlela. (...)

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Ngoko ke, ipropaganda isebenza njani
kwaye ijolise ekufezekiseni ntoni?

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Into eneneni ifuna ukuyiphumeza kukufumana imvume –
kanye kwinto abayifunayo abasemagunyeni okanye urhulumente.

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Intetho edumileyo yesiNgesi yile "Ukuvelisa Imvume".

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Impendulo yam koku yile: "Imvume iyakhiwa."

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Ngoko ke, uqhutyela abantu ngendlela yokuba
bavumelane nento ekufanele bayivumelane nayo.

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Kwaye isebenza njani loo nto?

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Imalunga neemvakalelo.

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Uhlala uneemvakalelo ngaphakathi kuwe, kuba
ziyicima ingcinga ebalulekileyo, ziyayithintela.

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Oku kuyingozi kakhulu kuba asikwazi ukuzikhusela kuko.

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Oku kungenxa yokuba ulwazi ke luyangena
kwingqondo yethu engaphantsi kolwazi.

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Kwaye ingqondo ayinakukwazi ukuyicima loo nto. (...)

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Oku kwenziwayo kubi kakhulu, kwaye
kuhamba ngesandla kunye nokucinezelwa kolwazi.

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Kuba xa sele, masithi, uhlele abantu kwangaphambili ukuba
bathathe indlela ethile, kufuneka ubathintele ekuphulaphuleni

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uluvo olwahlukileyo okanye ekufumaneni ingqiqo eyahlukileyo.

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Kukho iimvavanyo ezithile ezidumileyo kakhulu
ezibonisa ukuba abantu banokuphenjelelwa ukuba

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benze ngokuchaseneyo neenkolelo zabo, masithi.

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Kodwa ukuba umntu omnye eqeleni lovavanyo
ngequbuliso uvakalisa uluvo olwahlukileyo,

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uninzi luya kutshintsha iingqondo lwakhawuleza.

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Yiloo nto sonke sicenzurwayo.

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Kudalwe ikhonco elibizwa ngokuba loluvo, elixineneyo kakhulu.

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Zizimvakalelo nje. Kwaye
akukhathaliseki ukuba zeziphi na ezo mvakalelo.

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Ezi zinto ngokuqinisekileyo zinokuba nentonga, njengomdla
nomvuyo onzulu njalo njalo, nokuba yintoni na enokubakho.

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Kwaye eyona nto ibalulekileyo kuthi ngoku, ingakumbi
kwicandelo lotshintsho lwemozulu, yile: "Ndingomnye wabantu

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abalungileyo; ndingoyena mkhuseli ukhutheleyo wemozulu."

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Yiyo loo nto bedlala bonke kakuhle.

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- Ewe kona, kukho neemvakalelo
ezimbi – intiyo, ezibaluleke kakhulu.

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Eyona mvakalelo ibalulekileyo yokucima ingqondo yakho kukoyika.

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Yiyo loo nto uloyiko lusoloko luyinto yokuqala eveliswayo.

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Ngenxa yezi ndlela zokusebenza, wonke umntu
ongamvumi ngoku, apho ngoku ndikholelwa ukuba ndinoluvo

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oluchanekileyo, wonke umntu ongamvumi ngoku ngumntu ombi.

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Ngoko ke, mna ndingomnye wabantu
abalungileyo, kwaye abanye bangabantu ababi.

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Kwaye oko kudlalwe kakuhle kakhulu.

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Bebesebenza ngaphezu kweminyaka eyi-100.

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Oko kuxhomekeke kumaqela ekujoliswe kuwo, ewe.

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Ngoko ke abantu abahlukeneyo
basabela ngokwahlukileyo kwimiyalezo.

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Uloyiko, nangona kunjalo, yinto eguqu-guqulayo yonke into.

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Ungayisebenzisa uloyiko ukuba unako ukuludala; yinto entle leyo.

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Iyawucima kwangoko umbono wokucinga nzulu.

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Eyona nto ibalulekileyo kukuba kufuneka
udibanise konke oku ngokuchanekileyo ngoku.

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Uze ufumane ezona ziphumo zibalaseleyo.

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Ndingumntu oya kubachasi bethu.

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Ndiya kwimisitho eququzelelwe liqela lezopolitiko
zemozulu, ii-ayatollah zemozulu, njengoko ndibabiza.

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Iintetho zabo zicwangciswe ngendlela
yokuba uloyiko luhlala lwenzeka kuqala.

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Kubi kakhulu, isihogo semozulu nako konke
okuzayo naso, kwaye izikhukula ziyanda.

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Kwaye ke kuza inyathelo elilandelayo.
Kwaye ke kuyathiwa: Ngeliphoso lethu.

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Enyanisweni sithetha ukuthi yityala lenu, nina
abaphulaphulayo. Emva koko wonke umntu uziva enetyala.

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Uze uthi: Kodwa ngoku uya kufika
umhlanguli, oza kukuxelela into ekufuneka uyenzile.

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Kukho into endinokuyinika isandla ngayo ekusombululeni le ngxaki.

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Ndinganceda ukuqinisekisa ukuba le nto imbi kangaka ayenzeki.

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Kufuneka nje ndenze indima yam ekukhuseleni imozulu.

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Kufuneka ndiqhube imoto yombane,
umzekelo, kuba ngaloo ndlela ndikhusela imozulu.

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Kwaye ndim owenza izinto
ezilungileyo; ndingomnye wabantu abalungileyo.

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Yiyo kanye le nto. Isenjenjalo ke isebenza.

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Ndiwuve oku kwiintetho ezininzi.

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Loo nto inenkohlakalo ngokwenene
NLP = neuro-linguistic programming.

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Kwaye abantu batsaleleka ngqo.

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Baye ke nabo bavuya kakhulu kuba
baqonde ukuba kuyingozi kangakanani na.

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Ufuna ukwenzela isizukulwana esizayo into. (...)

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Kwaye njengoko benditshilo, kukho umoya wobumbano
phakathi kwabantu abaye baphantsi kwempembelelo efana

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nokugxumeka, kwaye babonisa ubumbano omnye komnye:

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Sonke singabantu abalungileyo, kwaye kufuneka – ndiyaphinda –
kufuneka silwe nabanye kakhulu. Kwaye ngoku, okubaluleke kakhulu:

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Ipropaganda kulula kakhulu ukuyibona.
Ungayibona kwangoko ukuba yipropaganda.

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Kuba konke kuhlala kuphelela kwiimvakalelo. Kufuneka uzijonge.

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Xa ndisiva umyalezo okanye nantoni na, kufuneka ndizijonge.

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Kwaye ukuba ndisabela
ngokweemvakalelo, nokuba kunjani, ke yipropaganda.

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Oku kwenziwa ngabom ukuze ndisabele ngokweemvakalelo.
Kuba, njengoko benditshilo, oko kuthintela ukucinga kwam.

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Kuthatha ixesha ukuyiqhela. Kufuneka nyhani uyaziqaphe.

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Ewe kunjalo, ukuphindaphinda yingongoma ebaluleke kakhulu.

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Kwaye kungekuphela nje rhoqo, kodwa
nakuzo zonke iindlela zosasazo ngaxeshanye.

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Ukubeka wonke umntu emgceni omnye ukuze kungabikho mbono
wumbi owaziwayo. Kuba oko kunokubangela abantu abanokuthandabuza

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okuncinci ngaphakathi babeke ngoko nangoko uluvo olufunwayo.

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Oku kuthetha ukuba kukho inyaniso enye kuphela, kwaye imibuzo
ephononongayo, njengoko benditshilo, akufuneki ibuzwe, kuba

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akuvumelekanga ukuba uphambuke kwindlela ecacisiweyo yezimvo.

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(…) Kulungile, kwaye ngoku masiye kwisisizathu sokwenene somlo.

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Njengoko benditshilo, yinkqubo
yomboniso-nyani emalunga neXesha leNkqwithela encinci.

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Yaboniswa ekupheleni konyaka ophelileyo (ngo-29 Disemba
2023) kangangemizuzu engamakhulu amathathu anesihlanu.

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Kwaye oko kunomdla kakhulu.

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Ngoku ndiza kudlala umzuzu wokuqala, isingeniso sale nkqubo:

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"Imeko yezulu ibonakala ngathi imanyene nabo.

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Iza kuhlala ixesha elingakanani le imozulu
ebandayo, emanzi, kunye nokusilela kwezityalo?

12:43.160 --> 12:47.257
Kwaye baza kukwazi ukuzixhasa onke abantwana babo?

12:48.817 --> 12:53.255
Akukho nto ibonakala ilungile ngoku
kubudlelwane phakathi kwabantu kunye nendalo

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ekupheleni kwenkulungwane yeshumi elinesithandathu.

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Unyikimo lomhlaba olukhulu luyishukumisa iVienna
kwaye lwade lwayonakalisa neKhathedrali yaseSt. Stephen.

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Ixesha lokubanda kakhulu kunye neemeko
zemozulu ezigqithisileyo zenza iXesha Elincinci

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Lomkhenkce libe luvavanyo olunzima kubantu.

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Umsindo eluntwini wavula isango
ekuzitshabalaliseni kweYurophu ekuqaleni kwenkulungwane ye-17.

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Ngoko ke uyabona, kufana nenye yezo filimu
zeentlekele zikaRoland Emmerich – iimeko ezichukumisa

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kakhulu iimvakalelo, ezisongelayo, nezibangela uloyiko.

13:52.340 --> 13:56.884
Kwaye yiyo kanye loo ngongoma ephathekayo kulo mboniso
wefilimu uphela, ozibiza ngokuba 'yifilimu engobungqina'.

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Ngoku kukho imiboniso ephindaphindwayo ebonisa
abantu abathiwa "ngabazazi-nzululwazi". Iziphumo

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ezithi "zesayensi" ngoku ziyaziswa kule filimu.

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Indoda (Roland Weißmann) ibalulekile.

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Yindoda ezicingela kakhulu, unguMlawuli-Jikelele
we-ORF – ndiza kuchaza ukuba kutheni oko kubalulekile.

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Ngoko ke, sinale filimu yentlekele,
kwaye ezi ngoku zizinyaniso zenzululwazi.

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Kwaye kule filimu – kwaye le yeyona ngongoma enkulu
yesikhalazo sethu – kukho iigrafu zamaqondo obushushu.

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Emva koko ziboniswa kwisetingi yestudiyo, apho kuvela umnikezeli
– ifilimu yefutshwe yemizwa iphazanyiswa

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ngokuphindaphindiweyo ziinkqubo ezimfutshane ezinjalo – kwaye
umfanekiso wokuqala ogqamileyo ubonakala ngolu hlobo:

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Ezi ziqondo obushushu zeminyaka engama-2000 edlulileyo, kwaye
zibonakalisa ngokuchanekileyo amaxesha, kanye

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iXesha eliFudumeleyo lamaRoma, iXesha eliFudumeleyo
leMbali Ephakathi kunye neNkathi yeGlasi Encinci.

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- Kwaye ke, ngoko ke yinto efana nentonga yehoki iphindwe
kane, - emva koko inyuka kakhulu kwaye ungabona nombala.

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- Okokuqala, umfanekiso uphela ujolise kakhulu kwimbono yombono
kangangokuba okwangoku kuboniswe kukhulisiwe, ngemibala

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ethambekele kubomvu oqaqambileyo – kwaye, ukuba
uqwalasela, nobukhulu bomgca buye banyuka ekupheleni, masithi.

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Kodwa okubi nangakumbi kukuba xa kuboniswa
iminyaka eli-12,000 edlulileyo, kubonakala ngolu hlobo.

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Ewe, yinto yobuyatha ngokupheleleyo, kwaye
iba ngcono nangakumbi, ukuba sithanda ukutsho.

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Uyatsho into ngayo.

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Uthi: Intaba yokugqibela apha phezulu,
uthetha le, ebomvu ngokupheleleyo, sithi.

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Akatsho ukuthi, nantsi ke, eneneni kulandelelana
ngokwamaxesha, kufuneka sithi apho, hayi, utsho lonto.

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Ngokwenene ucebisa ukuba:
Siyimbangela yale nto, ngoku sesona sisolwayo.

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Nditsho, akunakukholelwa ukuba la maqhina angaphakathi.

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- Ukuba ujonisisa, kuyahlekisa ukuba kuthiwa zizigradi
zeCelsius; - ngoko ke ungabona indlela eyakhiwe kakubi ngayo.

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Ukuba ujonga izikali, esinye siyi +1.4° kwaye esinye siyi +1.5°.

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Ngoko ke oku akufikeleli kulo naluphi na umgangatho wenzululwazi.

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Kubalulekile ukukhankanya oku kuba i-ORF nayo
inyanzelekile ukuba ihambise umsebenzi okumgangatho ophezulu.

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Oku kufunwa ngumthetho.

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Ngoko ke, kunjalo ke.

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Kwaye kungekhona apho kuphela – yeyona nto
ibalaseleyo kule nkqubo yomboniso-mbhali, ukutsho njalo.

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Kukho ezinye izinto ezininzi apho eziphosakele ngokupheleleyo.

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Kwaye seso isizathu sokuba sithi: Yima kancinci,
bubuxoki obukhulu obo, yipropaganda leyo, siza kuphendula umlo.

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Kwaye siyiphikisa njani loo nto?

16:35.152 --> 16:39.005
Kukho le nto eyaziwa njengekhalazo
likawonke-wonke, njengoko kubizwa kwa-Austria.

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Ngoko ke nabani na okholelwa ukuba i-ORF ayithobelanga
uMthetho we-ORF, endiza kuthetha ngawo kamva, ungenza isikhalazo

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kwabona basemagunyeni, iGunya lezoNxibelelwano lase-Austria.

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Uneeveki ezintandathu emva kokusasazwa ukuze afake esi sikhalazo.

16:56.855 --> 17:03.440
Oku kwenziwa kunzima kancinci kuba kufuneka afumane
iisayino zentsixeko ezili-120 kwezi veki zintandathu.

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Kwaye udla ngokufuna ngaphezulu koko, kuba ngenxa yezizathu
ezisesikweni, i-ORF ke ithi i-20 pesenti yazo azisebenzi.

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Ngoko ke siqhele ukuphatha ezingama-200. Ukuba
sinenkxaso eninzi, asikokokuqala ukukhalaza nge-ORF,

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ngamanye amaxesha siba neesiginitsha ezili-1,000.

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Ngoko ke loo nto ayisiyongxaki kuthi njengeklabhu.

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Kodwa kufuneka uqale ukuqokelela oko, kuba
abantu kufuneka bafake inombolo yabo yegalelo le-ORF.

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Kwaye ukuba uya kumsitho kunye nendawo yokuma uthi, umzekelo, esi
sisikhalazo sethu, nceda tyikitya, abantu bayavuya ukutyikitya

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– kodwa ngubani owaziyo inombolo yabo yegalelo le-ORF?

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Ngoku kufuneka sibaxelele ukuba basithumele nge-imeyile,
kwaye oko, ngelishwa, kuza kususela isibini kwezithathu zabantu.

17:37.243 --> 17:41.103
Ngelishwa, nangona bezibhalisile,
abakwazi ukuthumela inombolo yabo.

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Kodwa siqhele ukuyoyisa le ngxaki yobuchwepheshe.

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Kufuneka sichaze ngqo ukuba leliphi icandelo loMthetho
we-ORF, okanye nesiphi isicandelo-ntsongo, elaphulweyo.

17:50.480 --> 17:53.626
Kwaye ke, ngokuqinisekileyo, kufuneka
siyivakalise isizathu salo sikhalazo.

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Njengoko benditshilo, ndinethamsanqa kakhulu ukuba ngumhlobo
namagqwetha amahle kakhulu asinceda ngale nto, ukuze sikwazi

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ukuyicwangcisa ngokufanelekileyo ngokomthetho, kungekuphela nje
ngokwalo mba kunye nokugxekwa, kodwa nangokwembono yomthetho.

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Esi sikhalazo soluntu siyafakwa ngoku.

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Into entle yeyokuba ayibizi mali yokwenene.

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Ngoko ke ungafaka isikhalazo
ngaphandle kokuhlawula nayiphi na imali.

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Akukho nyanzeliso lokuqesha igqwetha.

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Ngoko ke ukuba ucinga ukuba uyakwazi, ungayenza nje.

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Kuthatha ixesha lakho lobuqu kuphela, hayi imali.

18:26.434 --> 18:32.973
Emva koko, xa umqobo osemthethweni sele
ugqityiwe, i-KommAustria ithumela isikhalazo

18:32.973 --> 18:36.378
kwi-ORF kwaye amagqwetha ngoku akhupha ingxelo.

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- Emva koko mna okanye igqwetha siza kubhala
ingxelo ephikisayo, - kwaye oku kuza

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kutshintshiselwana ngako ngokubhala izihlandlo ezimbalwa.

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Noko ke, emva kweenyanga ezintandathu ubuninzi,
eli gunya, i-KommAustria, kufuneka lenze isigqibo.

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Oku kubizwa ngokuba "sisigqibo" e-Austria.

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- Oku kubalulekile ngokomthetho kuba ngoku
kunokucelwa umngeni; - kunokusiwa kwinqanaba elilandelayo.

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Ngokuthi, kulungile, isigqibo sinokuba seso,
kodwa kuhlala kukho inkqubo yokumangalela.

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Kodwa phambi kokuba ndiye kuloo nto,
masijonge ngokusondeleyo uMthetho we-ORF.

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Yintoni kanye kanye umsebenzi we-ORF?

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Ungayifunda ngoku. Yingcaciso ebanzi
kakhulu eluntwini jikelele, njalo njalo.

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- Kwaye apho kubhaliwe "ukulamla nokukhuthaza
isayensi" – yiloo nto injongo yayo engundoqo.

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Luxanduva lwakhe ukwenza oko. Kunye nezinye izinto ezahlukeneyo.

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Ndiza kuyiyeka injalo okwangoku.

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Akubalulekanga ukuba ndikufundele oku ngokweenkcukacha ngoku.

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Bendisoloko ndigqamisa amagama abalulekileyo kunjalo.

19:31.970 --> 19:36.545
Kwaye kukho nemiyalelo ecacileyo kakhulu
malunga nendlela inkqubo ekufuneka ilungiswe ngayo.

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Kwaye kanye phezulu, sele kubhaliwe "ukhetho lweenjongo".

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Ngoko ke, igama elithi 'objective' livela okokuqala.

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Kwaye ke kuthiwa izimvo ezigxekayo nazo kufuneka zimelwe.

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Ukuthathela ingqalelo iyantlukwano.

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Unyanzelekile ukuba enjenjalo ngokomthetho.

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Ngezantsi, kuphinde kubhalwe: Izimvo,
uhlalutyo, njl. Imigaqo yokungathathi cala.

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Apha siphinda siyibona leli gama lithi 'ukungathathi cala'.

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Kwaye ke kukho nezinye iiparagrafu ezingaphantsi
malunga nendlela akufuneka alungelelanise ngayo umxholo.

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Ngoku kuthiwa ngumgangatho.

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Yiyo loo nto ndiyikhankanyile
kumfanekiso. Kaloku, umfanekiso uwusokoliso nje.

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Umzekelo, akukho mthombo unikiweyo
wedatha esetyenziswe kule grafu.

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Uyazi ukuba, (...) andinakufaka
nje nawuphi na umfanekiso nje apho.

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- Ngoko ke kufuneka abandakanye yonke into, azimele, angathathi
cala kwaye, kwakhona, abe ngqalile; - kufuneka

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ahlolisise ngononophelo inyaniso kunye nemvelaphi,
kwaye kufuneka ancamathele kwiinyaniso ezinokungqinwa.

20:36.540 --> 20:40.360
Kwaye – kufuneka kubenegalelo kwimfundo yoluntu.

20:40.360 --> 20:42.080
Konke kulungile ngokwenene ngoku.

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Ngoko ke ukuba ebenjenjalo, besiya kuba
nesixhobo sonxibelelwano esihle kakhulu e-Austria.

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Kodwa akayenzi lonto!

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Ngoku sifika emxholweni.

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- Kukho le nto kuthiwa ngutshintshelo lwamatyala,
oko kukuthi igunya lokuqala. I-KommAustria iza kwenza

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isigqibo kwisithuba seenyanga ezintandathu ubuninzi.

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- Emva koko sihlala sisiya kwisesibini.

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Kuba xa i-ORF isoyisakele, ibiza igunya elilandelayo eliphezulu.

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Leyo yiNkundla yoLawulo kaRhulumente.

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Kwaye ukuba mna okanye iklabhu yethu isoyiswa, sihlala
sithatha umba ngokukhawuleza siwusa kwinqanaba elilandelayo.

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Kwaye oko kulungile ngokwenene.

21:11.710 --> 21:14.250
Le yiphaneli yamagqwetha amathathu.

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Irekhodwe ilizwi ngelizwi.

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Amangqina anokuthiwa amagama, kwaye iindleko zenkundla
ziphantsi kakhulu kwakhona, ziyi-30 yee-euro kuphela.

21:25.279 --> 21:27.060
Ingxaki ekuphela kwayo ziindleko ezibandakanyekileyo.

21:27.060 --> 21:32.402
Nokuba uphumelele, usala neendleko zakho
zomthetho, ukuba unabo iingcali nezinto ezinjalo.

21:32.402 --> 21:33.760
Ngelishwa, kunjalo nje apha e-Austria.

21:33.760 --> 21:37.736
Kodwa kunjalo ke nako kumthetho
wolwaphulo-mthetho apha e-Austria.

21:39.522 --> 21:43.260
Emva koko kukho igunya eliphezulu – elo leligunya eliphakamileyo.

21:43.260 --> 21:45.880
Apha e-Austria, ihlala ibizwa ngokuba yiNkundla yoBulungisa.

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Kule meko, yiyo leyo iNkundla yoLawulo, kwaye ecaleni kwayo,
nangona enobukhululeko, kukho iNkundla yoMgaqo-siseko,

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apho umntu anokukhalaza khona, umzekelo, ukuba ezinye
iingxenye zoMthetho we-ORF azihambelani noMgaqo-siseko.

22:00.320 --> 22:06.220
Ngoko ke awuhlaseli umba ngqo, kodwa uthi: Lo
mthetho usisiseko awungqinelani nomgaqo-siseko.

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Okanye inkqubo ngokwayo ineziphene.

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Usakwazi ukuyamkela loo nto.

22:09.780 --> 22:11.020
Lelo ikwayinkundla yomthetho.

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Lelo lelona nkundla iphezulu ngokubanzi –
iNkundla yoMgaqo-siseko, inkundla engaphezulu.

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Yintoni amava ethu?

22:17.940 --> 22:22.399
Ngoko ke eli asililo inyathelo lokuqala lomthetho
esilithathileyo malunga nemozulu esilithathileyo nxamnye ne-ORF.

22:22.399 --> 22:27.711
I-KommAustria inemiqathango esemthethweni
engqongqo kakhulu, kunye nala tyikityo nayo yonke

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enye into – kwaye ngokucacileyo iyayixhasa i-ORF.

22:30.100 --> 22:34.408
Ngoko ke uzama ukuvimba isikhalazo kangangoko kunokwenzeka.

22:34.408 --> 22:38.781
Ufumana zonke iintlobo zeengxoxo ezibonisa
isizathu sokuba le meko ngoku kufuneka ijongwe

22:38.781 --> 22:41.952
ngendlela eyahlukileyo ngokwembono yabakhalazi.

22:41.952 --> 22:50.365
Sibe namava amahle kakhulu ngesigqeba sesibini, iNkundla yoLawulo
kaRhulumente – ubuncinci ngamaqela amajaji endisebenzane nawo.

22:50.365 --> 22:57.971
Malunga namagqwetha angama-35 asebenza apho.
Kukho iisenethi ezininzi, kwaye azikhethi cala.

22:57.971 --> 23:00.940
Iinkqubo nazo ziqhutywa ngendlela engazami ukuphembelela oku.

23:00.940 --> 23:02.320
Oku kuqhelekile kakhulu ezinkundleni.

23:02.320 --> 23:07.692
Umgwebi angakwazi ngokwenene ukumisela isiphumo
senkqubo yamatyala ukuba inkqubo iqhutywa ngendlela ethile.

23:07.692 --> 23:15.000
Kuyinto eqhelekileyo kakhulu kwiinkundla zethu zolawulo
ukuba ubungqina buganjwe okanye abangqina bagwetywe, masithi.

23:15.000 --> 23:19.720
Kodwa amava am kwiNkundla yoLawulo
kaRhulumente ayimaphakathi kakhulu.

23:19.720 --> 23:21.140
Kodwa ngoku kuba nzima.

23:21.140 --> 23:26.843
Iinkundla zethu, oko kukuthi iinkundla
eziphakamileyo, zonke zonyulwa ngabaphathi bezopolitiko.

23:26.843 --> 23:30.100
Kwaye oko kuphelisa ngokupheleleyo
ulawulo lomthetho kwiindawo ezininzi.

23:30.100 --> 23:35.423
Kuba ukuba abasemagunyeni abaphezulu abenza isigqibo sokugqibela
abasabikho ngokwenene, okanye masithi – apho

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kuthandabuzekayo ukuba banobunyanisela na
kwaye bazimele na, oko ke kunengxaki kakhulu.

23:39.861 --> 23:44.740
Ingakumbi iNkundla yoMgaqo-siseko. Kucacile
ukuba abantu bayo bonyulwa ngabaphathi bezopolitiko.

23:44.740 --> 23:48.820
Kwaye ke, njengoko benditshilo, kukho
umbuzo omkhulu: Ingaba unako nokuba nguzimele?

23:48.820 --> 23:52.089
Kwaye ndingathanda ukuthetha amagama
ambalwa malunga neNkundla yoMgaqo-siseko.

23:52.089 --> 23:56.780
Iqulathe abagwebi abali-14, ngabo abantu abo.

23:56.780 --> 24:01.126
Kwaye oko kuyavuyisa kakhulu ngoku, njengoko benditshilo.

24:01.126 --> 24:08.180
Umntu angacinga ukuba abagwebi abagqwesileyo kweli lizwe
basebenza kwiNkundla yoMgaqo-siseko. Akunjalo kwaphela.

24:08.180 --> 24:11.600
Akukho namnye umgwebi wakudala phakathi kwabo!

24:11.600 --> 24:13.549
Oko akukholeleki.

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Kunjalo ke.

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Kufuneka babe nolwazi lwezomthetho.

24:18.656 --> 24:23.759
Ndikholelwa ukuba kufuneka nabo
babe benesidanga, isidanga somthetho.

24:23.759 --> 24:27.650
Phakathi kwabo baninzi ooprofesa
baseyunivesithi, oko kukuthi, abantu abakhe bayintloko

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yesikhungo somthetho ndaweni ithile okanye abasasebenza.

24:31.227 --> 24:35.926
Kwaye baninzi abasebenzi bakarhulumente abasebenza
njengamagqwetha kulawulo – okanye, okona kubi

24:35.926 --> 24:41.639
kakhulu, abasebenza okanye abakhe basebenza ngqo
kwizikhundla zezopolitiko kwiinkonzo zikarhulumente.

24:41.639 --> 24:44.080
Oko kukusondela kakhulu kwaba
basebenzi bakarhulumente kwezopolitiko.

24:44.080 --> 24:49.257
Kwaye eyona nto imbi kakhulu yeyokuba kukho amagqwetha
abandakanyekayo, lawo ke, kwezinye iimeko, amela

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oosopolitiki okanye amaqela ezopolitiko emsebenzini wawo.

24:52.633 --> 24:59.480
Ngoko ke kucacile gca ukuba iNkundla yethu yoMgaqo-siseko
ikhetha ngokugqithisileyo kwelinye icala kwezopolitiko.

24:59.480 --> 25:03.422
Kwaye oku kunokubangelwa ngamaqela, kuba
amaqela anelungelo lokwenza iziphakamiso –

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kwaye yonke into abayiphakamisayo iyamkelwa.

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Ngoko ke ungabona nje ukuba amandla asasazwe
njani e-Austria kule minyaka ingama-20 idlulileyo,

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nokuba zibe ngawaphi oorhulumente abebekhona apho.

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Kwaye ke bonke bafake abagqatswa babo kwiNkundla yoMgaqo-siseko.

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Ngokunyanisekileyo, oko kunengxaki kakhulu, kakhulu,
kuba – ingaba ngenene benza izigwebo ezingathathi cala?

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Umzekelo, ityala lisandula ukuphela
siphumelele kwisigaba sokuqala nakwisigaba sesibini.

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Le yiphaneli yamagqwetha amathathu.
Ingqiqo egqwesileyo, amaphepha angama-24.

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Kwaye ke i-ORF yaya kwiNkundla yoMgaqo-siseko.

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Amagqwetha athe: Kulungile, eneneni siyiphulukene nayo le tyala.

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Siya kwiNkundla yoMgaqo-siseko, ethonywa
ngabaphathi bezopolitiko, baze batshitshise isigwebo

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seNkundla yoLawulo ngesizathu esingenangqondo.

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Ngoko ke xa uzifunda, ucinga, "Bebatshayo ntoni ke
ngoku?" Akukholeleki indlela umthetho – kufuneka

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ndilumke apha – indlela umthetho ongawusebenzisi ngoku.

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Andifuni kuthetha ngokugwenyaziswa kwobulungisa, kodwa
akukholeleki izizathu ezingxamisekileyo ezithi zivele.

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Kodwa igqwetha elinye endisebenzisana nalo kakuhle
ngoku liza kuzama ukuzisa iNkundla yethu yoMgaqo-siseko

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yase-Austria phambi kweNkundla yaseYurophu yoBulungisa.

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Kuba sisinalo esi siphano.

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Akukholeleki ngokwenene indlela ngamanye amaxesha ...
kwaye ngelishwa, igunya eliphezulu lilo eligqibayo.

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Ngokufanayo, ngubani oyindoda enamandla kakhulu elizweni?

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Lowo ubhengeza imeko kaxakeka. Wayengumphathiswa
wethu wezempilo ngexesha lengxaki ye-coronavirus.

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Uthe kwangoko wabhengeza imeko kaxakeka
kwaye ngoku yonke into irhoxisiwe. Ngoko ke

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kwimeko kaxakeka, umgaqo-siseko awusasebenzi.

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Yintoni enye esiyenzayo, senditshilo...

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Baphulaphuli abathandekayo, ngezantsi kwenkqubo
niza kufumana ikhonkco lesifundo esipheleleyo.

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Singathanda ukuthatha eli thuba ukubulela
isithethi, uGqr Bernhard Strehl, kunye namaqonga

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i-EIKE, i-Heartland Institute kunye ne-CFACT.