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Futhi-ke, kunesizathu sokudonsa ukunaka ekubikeni
okungafanele kwe-documentary ye-ORF ekhombisiwe.

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Engqungqutheleni Yamazwe Ngamazwe Yezimo Zezulu
Namandla ka-2024 eVienna, abahlanganyeli bafunda ngobuntatheli

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bezimo zezulu obuqondiswayo, obuthandwa futhi yi-ORF.

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Ngesikhathi salomhlangano,

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Kla.TV namuhla iveza izingcaphuno zentetho enolwazi
kaDkt. Bernhard Strehl, osomabhizinisi nesazi

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se-fiziksi ogxile kwe-fiziksi yama-athomu nokukhanya okubucayi.

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Waba yisihibe eceleni kwabacwaningi bemozulu
base-Austria ngenxa yezinkulumo zakhe ezingaphezu

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kuka-50 ezisekelwe kahle ngesihloko sezimo zezulu.

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Ngesikhathi senhlekelele ye-coronavirus, uStrehl
nabanye abangane basungula inhlangano i-IMMUN,

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enenjongo ephindwe kabili – kwezokwelapha nakwezomthetho.

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Ngezinyathelo zomthetho eziningi ezingenelweni enkantolo
yezokuphatha, uStrehl wathola ukuthi akudingeki ube

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ngummeli ukuze umele umuntu enkantolo yezokuphatha e-Austria.

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Ngokwamazwi akhe, uselamele abantu abaningi
mahhala futhi uthole isipiliyoni emacaleni

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angaphezu kwamashumi amabili kuze kube manje.

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Strehl waziwa ngokudalula kwakhe okucacile.

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Yingakho zonke izintatheli zase-Austria zizama ukumthulisa
ngemisho efana nokuthi "iNazi" kanye "nomgqugquzeli wezombusazwe

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onobudlova ohlangothini lwesokudla". Isebenza kanjani
ipropaganda yesimo sezulu ezinkundleni zezindaba eziyinhloko?

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Bukela inkulumo enolwazi olunzulu kaDkt.
Strehl, esifinyeziwe, enesihloko esithi:

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Ipropaganda yesimo sezulu e-Austria. Siyiphikisa.

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(uBernhard Strehl:) ... igama elithi 'ukufudumala
komhlaba' laqala ukusetshenziswa ngempela

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kuphela ngemva kokuphela kwenhlekelele ye-coronavirus.

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Ngokuzumayo, okungenani lapha e-Austria, igama
elithi 'ukufudumala komhlaba' selisetshenziswa.

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Ngaphambilini, kwakuhlala kubizwa ngokuthi ukufudumala komhlaba.

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Bekunjalo kusukela ngeminyaka yama-1980.

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Khona-ke kwathi ngokuzumayo kwaba buthakathaka kancane.

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Ngokuzumayo, wonke umuntu
wayekhuluma ngokushintsha kwesimo sezulu.

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Ngisola ukuthi i-Climategate idlale indima ethile
kulokhu. Ngoba ngisho neziteshi zezindaba ezinkulu sezibonile

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ukuthi kukhona okungahambi kahle ngalesi sayensi sezulu.

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Manje, muva nje, lokhu sekunyuke kakhulu. Manje
sinokushisa komhlaba kanye nesihogo sezimo zezulu.

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Futhi uNobhala-Jikelele we-UN uGuterres
wathola iqiniso – "ukupheka komhlaba wonke".

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Ngiphinda lapha isisho sakhe:

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Isikhathi sokushisa komhlaba siphelile.
Isikhathi sokupheka komhlaba siqalile.

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Futhi nginayo inguqulo yokuqala.

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Manje ngizokukhombisa ukuthi empeleni wathi ngaleso sikhathi:

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Isikhathi sokushisa komhlaba siphelile.

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Isikhathi sokushisa komhlaba wonke sesifikile.

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Umoya awuphefumuleki.

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Ukushisa akunakubekezelelwa.

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Futhi izinga lenzuzo yamafutha e-fossil
nokungathathi zinyathelo ngesimo sezulu akwamukeleki.

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(…) Kodwa wathi izinto ezimbalwa lapho.

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Umoya awuphefumuleki. Futhi ukushisa akunakubekezelelwa.

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Kodwa okungimangaze kakhulu kwakuwukuthi wathi
lokhu phambi kweNdibano Jikelele yeZizwe

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Ezihlangene yonke ngoJulayi ngonyaka odlule (2023).

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Futhi kwakukhona abamele imithombo yezindaba
abaningi ababekhona, futhi lokho kwamukelwa nje.

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Akekho othethe lutho.

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Manje-ke ngithanda ukucaphuna uWill Happer: "Uke waphuza ini?"

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Ake siqhubeke manje.

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Enye igama elisha kancane yinkinga yesimo sezulu.

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Manje konke sekuyinkinga kuphela.

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Futhi mina futhi ngiyamphika umonakalo wesimo
sezulu kuwo wonke amaphephandaba ase-Austria.

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Futhi noma ubani manje othi, "Linda umzuzwana, lokho
kungase kube kuhlukile kancane," ngokushesha ubizwa

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ngokuthi umphikisi, umphikisi wenhlekelele yesimo sezulu.

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Siyazi kahle ukuthi isetshenziselwa ini.

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Impela, lokhu kusetshenziswa ngoba kukhona abaphika
iHolocaust, futhi thina sibekwa esigabeni esifanayo.

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Lapha emhlabeni okhuluma isiJalimane,
kukhona okuthile okuyingozi ngokuyikhohlisa.

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Lena okubizwa ngokuthi i-Climate Journalism Network.

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Abalobi bezindaba abangamakhulu ambalwa
nochwepheshe bezokuxhumana basebenza lapho.

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Kuchaza ukuthi yiziphi amagama okufanele asetshenziswe.

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Abantu abasasebenzisi igama elithi 'ukuguquka
kwesimo sezulu' manje; alinamandla ngokwanele.

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Kufanele kusetshenziswe igama elithi inkinga yesimo sezulu.

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Lokhu ngokuyisisekelo kunikeza umqulu wamagama
avunyelweyo ukuze kuqinisekiswe ukuthi umlayezo

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udluliselwa ngendlela edramatiki ngangokunokwenzeka.

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Futhi ngisho lokhu ngoba kukhona
nabahleli abavela e-ORF abakhona.

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Futhi sizochaza-ke ukuthi kungani lokhu kubalulekile. (...)

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Futhi-ke, impela, kukhona imidiya yokuxhumana, lapho
abantu abasha ikakhulukazi bebambeke cishe ezikrinini zabo

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futhi bethola yonke imininingwane yabo emidiya yokuxhumana.

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Siphinde sibe nemithombo yezindaba ehlukile e-Austria.

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(…) Banomthamo omuhle kakhulu.

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Nokho, umphakathi jikelele ugwema lezi
ziteshi zezindaba ngoba nazo zibhalwe

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njengezibonakaliso zobuphisana obuphakanyisiwe kwesokudla.

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Futhi okubi kakhulu e-Austria yizikole namanyuvesi.

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Kuyipropaganda ehlanzekile, ukufundiswa
imicabango ngenkani kanye nemfundiso yezombusazwe...

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Akukholakali.

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Akukholakali okwenzekayo!

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Angiqondi nhlobo ukuthi lokho kungenzeka kanjani.
Kimina, lezi azisekho izikhungo zemfundo ephakeme.

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Ngafunda eyunivesithi, iVienna University of Technology.

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Kodwa okwenzeka kulezi zinsuku, empeleni kusukela eBologna,
kusukela bafaka lolu hlelo, lezi azisekho amanyuvesi kimi.

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Ngoba inkululeko yocwaningo nenkululeko yokufundisa
asisekho, okungenani kusukela ku-pandemic ye-coronavirus.

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Manje ngifuna ukukhuluma kafushane ngensizakalo kazwelonke
yokusakaza, ngoba siyathatha izinyathelo ngokumelene nayo.

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Lapha, kubizwa ngokuthi
i-Austrian Broadcasting Corporation – ORF.

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Futhi ineziteshi ezilandelayo: i-ORF1, i-ORF2 ne-ORF3.

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Lapha usengakwazi ukuthola kahle iziteshi zikahulumeni
zaseJalimane, kanye neziteshi eziningi ezizimele, impela.

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Ngifuna nje ukukukhombisa lokhu – lolu cwaningo
lonyaka, ukufinyelela kwalezi ziteshi ngoMashi.

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Manje sekuyingaba ngu-40.

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Uma sibheka ngokucophelela, eziyishumi eziphezulu, singathi:

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I-ORF 2 inokufinyelela okubanzi kakhulu,
ngama-20% wama-Austria ayibuka nsuku zonke.

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Lokho kungenxa yokuthi yilapho
okuthiwa 'izindaba' zisakazwa khona.

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Ngakho-ke yilapho ipropaganda
enengqondo isebenza khona, singasho kanjalo.

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I-ORF 1 ingenye.

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Futhi kuyathakazelisa, kuyathakazelisa
ngempela, endaweni yesithathu kukhona

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umsakazo obalulekile i-ServusTV, elingana ne-ZDF.

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Futhi uma ubheka ngokucophelela, i-ORF III ayikho.

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Ngakhuluma nalaba bantu ngocingo, ngibuza
ukuthi kungani. Ngakho-ke kunenkampani

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eqoqa le datha. Kungani i-ORF III ingafakiwe?

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Ngesizathu esihlakaniphile, ngoba kuyisiteshi esincane
futhi esibizayo kakhulu se-ORF: "Sisanda kusungulwa

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kangaka, kumele usivikele ekucindezelweni kwamaphuzu okubuka."

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Kodwa isebenza iminyaka engu-15.

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Kodwa ngathola engxoxweni nabo ukuthi i-ORF
III isezingeni elingu-2.8%. (...)

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Ngiyakuqonda ukuthi kungani befuna ukukucindezela lokho.

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Banehlelo lwemali elikhulu kakhulu, futhi lokho
akwenzi lolu chungechunge lube nelungelo nhlobo.

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Futhi yilokho abafuna ukukumboza ngale ndlela. (...)

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Ngakho-ke ipropaganda isebenza kanjani futhi ihlose ukufeza ini?

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Lokho empeleni okufunwayo ukuthola imvume –
okungukuthi kulokho abasemandleni noma uhulumeni abakufunayo.

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Isisho sesiNgisi sithi "Ukwenza Uvume"

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Impendulo yami kulokhu ithi: "Uvunyelwano lwenziwa ngobuqili."

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Ngakho-ke uthonya abantu ngendlela yokuthi
bavumelane nalokho okufanele bavumelane nakho.

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Futhi lokho kusebenza kanjani?

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Kuyindaba yemizwa.

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Uhlale unezizwe ngaphakathi kuwe, ngoba
zivala ukucabanga okubucayi, ziyakuvimba.

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Lokhu kuyingozi kakhulu ngoba asikwazi ukuzivikela kukho.

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Lokhu kungenxa yokuthi imininingwane
ingena emqondweni wethu ongaphansi kokuqaphela.

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Futhi ukuqaphela akukwazi ukukuvala lokho. (...)

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Okwenzekayo akulungile nhlobo, futhi kuhambisana nokucwasa.

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Ngoba uma usuke, njengokuthi, ulungiselele abantu
ngaphambilini ukuze bahambe ngendlela ethile, kufanele uvimbe

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ukuthi bezwe umbono ohlukile noma bathole ukuqonda okuhlukile.

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Kukhona izivivinyo ezidumile kakhulu
ezikhombisa ukuthi abantu bangathonya ukuba benze

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ngokuphikisana nezinkolelo zabo, ngokuthi.

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Kodwa uma umuntu oyedwa eqenjini lokuhlola
ngokuzumayo eveza umbono ophambene, iningi

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lizoshintsha imicabango yalo ngokushesha.

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Yingakho sonke sicenzurwa.

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Kudalwa umgwaqo wemibono obizwa ngokuthi omncane kakhulu.

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Kuyizimvakalelo nje. Futhi
akubalulekile ukuthi yiziphi izimvakalelo.

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Lezi nakanjani zingaba ezinhle, njengokuzimisela
nokujabula okukhulu nokunye okunjalo, noma yini ekhona.

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Futhi okubalulekile kithi manje, ikakhulukazi emkhakheni
wokuguquka kwesimo sezulu, yilokhu: "Ngiyinye yamaqhawe amahle;

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ngingumvikeli wesimo sezulu osebenza ngokuzikhandla kakhulu."

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Yingakho bonke bedlala kahle ndawonye.

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- Impela, kukhona nemizwa engemihle – inzondo, ebaluleke kakhulu.

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Imizwa ebaluleke kakhulu yokuvala ukucabanga kwakho wukwesaba.

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Futhi yilokho okwenza ukwesaba
kube yinto yokuqala ehlala ikhiqizwa.

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Ngenxa yalezi zindlela, wonke umuntu omunye manje
osevumelana nombono wami, njengoba manje ngikholelwa ukuthi

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nginombono oqondile, wonke umuntu omunye ungumuntu omubi.

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Ngakho-ke mina ngingomunye wabantu
abahle kanti abanye bangabantu ababi.

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Futhi lokho kudlalwe kahle kakhulu.

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Sebeqhuba umkhuba iminyaka engaphezu kuka-100.

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Lokho kuncike emaqenjini okuhlosiwe, vele.

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Ngakho-ke abantu abahlukene
baphendula ngendlela ehlukile emiyalezweni.

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Ukwesaba, nokho, yinto ehlanganisa konke.

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Ungasebenzisa ukwesaba uma ungakwazi ukukudalela; lokho kuhle.

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Kuvala ngokushesha ukucabanga okujulile.

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Okubalulekile ukuthi manje kufanele
uhlanganise konke lokhu ngendlela efanele.

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Khona-ke uthola imiphumela engcono kakhulu.

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Ngingumuntu osondela kwizitha zethu.

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Ngiya emicimbini ehlelwe yiqembu labalandeli
bezulu, ama-ayatollah wezulu, njengoba ngibabiza.

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Izinkulumo zabo zihlelwe ngendlela
yokuthi ukwesaba kuhlale kuqala.

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Kubi kakhulu, isihogo semvelo yesimo sezulu kanye nazo
zonke izinto ezihambisana naso, futhi izikhukhula ziyanda.

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Kanti-ke kuza isinyathelo
esilandelayo. Futhi-ke kithi: yiphutha lethu.

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Empeleni sisho ukuthi yiphutha lakho, nina
enizilalelayo. Bese wonke umuntu ezizwa enecala.

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Kanti-ke uthi: Kodwa manje umsindisi
uyafika, ozokutshela ukuthi kufanele wenzeni.

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Kukhona engingakwenza ukusiza ukuxazulula le nkinga.

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Ngingasiza ukuqinisekisa ukuthi le nto embi kangaka ayenzeki.

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Kumele nje ngenze ingxenye yami ekuvikelweni kwesimo sezulu.

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Kumele ngishayele imoto kagesi, isibonelo,
ngoba ngaleyo ndlela ngivikela isimo sezulu.

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Futhi mina ngiyena owenza izinto
ezinhle, ngingomunye wabantu abahle.

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Yilokho okubalulekile. Yilokho okwenzayo.

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Ngilalele lokhu ezinkulumweni eziningana.

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Lokho kuyihlazo ngempela. I-NLP =
uhlelo lokuhlela lwe-neuro-linguistic.

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Futhi abantu bayakhangwa kakhulu yikho.

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Bese nabo bajabula kakhulu ngoba
sebebonile ukuthi kuyingozi kangakanani.

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Ufuna ukwenza okuthile kwesizukulwane esilandelayo. (...)

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Futhi njengoba ngishilo, kunomphumela wobumbano
phakathi kwabantu abaye baphonyothiswa

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ngokomfanekiso, futhi babonisa ubumbano komunye nomunye:

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Sonke singabantu abahle, futhi kumele – ngiphinda – kumele silwe
nabanye ngokuqinile kakhulu. Futhi manje, okubaluleke kakhulu:

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Ipropaganda kulula kakhulu ukuyibona.
Ungasho ngokushesha ukuthi iyipropaganda.

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Ngoba konke kuhlala kugcina ngemizwa. Kufanele uzibheke.

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Uma ngizwa umlayezo noma yini, kumele ngizibheke.

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Futhi uma ngiphendula ngokomzwelo,
kungakhathaliseki ukuthi kanjani, khona-ke kuwupropaganda.

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Lokhu kwenziwa ngenhloso ukuze ngiphendule ngokomzwelo.
Ngoba, njengoba ngishilo, lokho kuvimba ukucabanga kwami.

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Kuthatha isikhashana ukuvamisa.
Kufanele ngempela uqaphele ngakho.

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Impela, ukuphindaphinda kuyinto ebaluleke kakhulu.

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Futhi hhayi nje njalo nje, kodwa
kuwo wonke amajelo ngasikhathi sinye.

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Ukuhlela wonke umuntu ngendlela efanayo ukuze kungabi khona
omunye umbono owaziwayo. Ngoba lokho kungabangela

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ukuthi abantu abanezinkolelo ezingabaza kancane
ngaphakathi babeke eceleni ngokushesha umbono ofunwayo.

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Lokhu kusho ukuthi kunenqiniso eyodwa kuphela, futhi
imibuzo ehlaziyayo, njengoba ngishilo, akufanele

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ivuswe ngoba awuvunyelwe ukuphuma emgudwini wemibono.

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(…) Kulungile, manje sesiya esizathweni sangempela sokulwa.

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Njengoba ngishilo, lolu hlelo
lwe-dokhumentari mayelana neNkathi Yeqhwa Encane.

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Yabhalwa ekupheleni konyaka odlule (29 Disemba
2023) imizuzu engamashumi amathathu nesishiyagalolunye.

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Futhi lokho kuyathakazelisa kakhulu.

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Manje ngizodlala umzuzu wokuqala, isingeniso salolu hlelo:

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Kubonakala sengathi isimo sezulu sihlangene sabacindezela.

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Isimo sezulu esibandayo nesimanzi nokwehluleka
kwezitshalo kuzohlala isikhathi esingakanani?

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Futhi ngabe bazokwazi ukuxhasa zonke izingane zabo?

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Akukho okubonakala sekulungile ebudlelwaneni
phakathi kwabantu nemvelo ekupheleni kwekhulu le-16.

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Ukuqhuma komhlaba okukhulu kushukumisa iVienna
futhi kwonakalisa iKhathedrali kaSt. Stephen.

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Izikhathi zobusika obubandayo kanye nezimo zezulu ezimbi
kakhulu zenza i-Little Ice Age ibe ukuhlolwa okunzima kubantu.

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Ukungazinzi emphakathini kuvule umnyango
ekuzibhubhiseni kweYurophu ekuqaleni kwekhulu le-17.

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Ngakho-ke uyabona, kufana nenye yalezo zifilimu
zezinhlekelele zikaRoland Emmerich – ezigcwele

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imizwa enamandla, izimo ezisongelayo, ezidala ukwesaba.

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Futhi empeleni yilona themu eligijima kulo lonke leli
filimu elide, elizibiza ngokuthi "ifilimu yedokhumentari".

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Manje sekukhona izigcawu eziphindaphindwayo
ezibonisa abantu abathiwa "ososayensi". Manje kule filimu

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sekwethulwa okutholakele okuthiwa "kwezesayensi".

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Indoda (Roland Weißmann) ibalulekile.

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Ungumuntu ozigqaja, ungumqondisi-jikelele we-ORF
– ngizochaza ukuthi kungani lokhu kubalulekile.

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Ngakho-ke, sinale filimu
yezinhlekelele, futhi lawa manje amaqiniso esayensi.

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Futhi kule filimu – futhi lokhu kuyiphuzu
eliyinhloko lokhalazo lwethu – kunemigqa yokushisa.

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Bese zivezwa esimweni sesitudiyo, lapho umethuli ebonakala khona
– ifilimu yefesifayela enomzwelo iphazanyiswa

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kaningi yilezi zingxenye ezimfishane – futhi
isithombe sokuqala esibhaliwe sibukeka kanje:

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Lawa amazinga okushisa eminyakeni engu-2000 edlule, futhi abonisa
ngokunembile lezi zikhathi, okungukuthi Isikhathi

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Sokufudumala SamaRoma, Isikhathi Sokufudumala
Sesikhathi Esiphakathi kanye NeNkathi Yeqhwa Encane.

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- Futhi-ke, lokho kufana nentonga ye-hockey ephindwe kane,
- bese inyuka ngokushesha kakhulu futhi ungabona nombala.

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Okokuqala, isithombe sonke sigxile kakhulu ekubukweni kwesimo
kangangokuthi okwamanje kuboniswa ngokukhulisiwe,

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imibala ithambekele ku-vermilion – futhi, uma ubheka
ngokucophelela, ubukhulu bemigqa buyanda ekugcineni, ngokuthi.

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Kodwa okubi kakhulu wukuthi lapho kukhombisa iminyaka
eyizinkulungwane eziyishumi nambili ezedlule, kubukeka kanje.

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Yebo, kuyahlanya ngokuphelele,
futhi kuba ngcono kakhulu, singathi.

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Uthi okuthile ngakho.

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Uthi: intaba yokugcina lapha phezulu,
usho le lena ebomvu ngokuphelele, yithi.

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Akathi, "nansi thina, empeleni kulandelana
kwesikhathi; kumele sisho khona; cha, utsho lokho."

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Ngokuyisisekelo uphakamisa ukuthi: thina
siyimbangela yalokhu, manje sesibekwe icala.

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Ngisho, akunakukholakala ukuthi
lezi zigobe zikhona lapho ngaphakathi.

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- Uma ubheka eduze kancane, kuyahlekisa ukuthi kubhalwe amadigri
Celsius; - ngakho ungabona ukuthi yakhiwe kabi kangakanani.

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Uma ubheka amasikali, elinye
lingu +1.4° kanti elinye lingu +1.5°.

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Ngakho-ke lokhu akufezi noma
yiziphi izindinganiso zesayensi nhlobo.

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Lokhu kubalulekile ukukukhomba ngoba i-ORF nayo
iphoqelekile ukuhlinzeka ngomsebenzi osezingeni eliphezulu.

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Lokhu kuyadingeka ngokomthetho.

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Ngakho-ke yilokhu okubukeka ngakho.

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Futhi hhayi lapho kuphela – lokho kuyisihloko esiphakeme
ngempela salolu hlelo lwe-documentary, singasho kanjalo.

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Kukhona nezinye izinto eziningi lapho ezingalungile ngokuphelele.

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Futhi yilokho okwasenza sathi: Linda umzuzwana,
lokho kuwumbumbulu nje, kuwupropaganda, sizophikisa.

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Futhi singamelana nakho kanjani?

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Kukhona okwaziwa ngokuthi ukhalazo
lomphakathi, njengoba kubizwa e-Austria.

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Ngakho-ke noma ubani okholelwa ukuthi i-ORF ayilandelanga
uMthetho we-ORF, engizokhuluma ngawo kamuva, angangenisa

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isikhalazo egunyeni elifanele, iGunya Lezokuxhumana lase-Austria.

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Unesonto eziyisithupha ngemva
kokusakazwa ukuze afake leli sikhalazo.

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Lokhu kwenziwa kube nzima kancane ngoba kumele athole iziginesha
eziyi-120 ezisekelayo phakathi kwalezi zinsuku eziyisithupha.

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Futhi ngokuvamile kudingeka ube nokuningi
kunalokho, ngoba ngezizathu ezisemthethweni

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i-ORF ithi amaphesenti angu-20 awo awamukeleki.

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Ngakho-ke ngokuvamile siletha abangu-200. Uma
sithola ukwesekwa okuningi, akuyona ikhalazo lokuqala

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le-ORF; kwesinye isikhathi siba nezimpawu ezingu-1 000.

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Ngakho-ke lokho akuyona inkinga kithi njengekilabhu.

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Kodwa kumele uqale ukulungisa lokho, ngoba
abantu kumele bafake inombolo yabo yeminikelo ye-ORF.

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Futhi uma uya emcimbini one-stand bese uthi, isibonelo,
"Lena ukhalazo lwethu, sicela usayine," abantu bayajabula

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ukusayina – kodwa ubani owaziyo inombolo yabo yokunikela ye-ORF?

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Manje kumele sithi babhalele kithi nge-imeyili, futhi lokho
kuzosusa izingxenye ezimbili kwezintathu zabantu, ngeshwa.

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Ngeshwa, nakuba sebeqhube
ukubhalisa, abakwazi ukuthumela inombolo yabo.

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Kodwa ngokuvamile siyaphumelela
ukunqoba lesi sivimbelo esisemthethweni.

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Kumele sichaze ngokunembile ukuthi yisiphi isigaba soMthetho
we-ORF, noma ngisho yisiphi isigaba esincane, esiphulwe.

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Futhi-ke, vele, kumele sichaze isizathu salokho sikhalazo.

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Njengoba ngishilo, nginethamsanqa kakhulu ukuba abangane nabameli
abahle kakhulu abasizayo ngalokhu, ukuze sikwazi ukukuhlela

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kahle ngokombono wezomthetho, hhayi kuphela maqondana
nodaba uqobo kanye nokugxekwa, kodwa nangokombono wezomthetho.

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Lesi sikhalazo somphakathi sithunyelwa njengamanje.

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Okumnandi wukuthi akubizi lutho ngempela.

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Ngakho-ke ungafaka isikhalazo
ngaphandle kokukhokha noma yiziphi izimali.

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Futhi awunayo imfanelo yokuqasha ummeli.

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Ngakho-ke uma ucabanga ukuthi uyanele, ungakwenza nje.

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Kuthatha isikhathi sakho siqu kuphela, hhayi imali.

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Bese, uma isithiyo esisemthethweni
sesidlulile, i-KommAustria ithumela isikhalazo e-ORF,

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kanti abameli manje balungiselela isitatimende.

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- Bese mina noma ummeli sibhala isitatimende esiphikisayo, -
futhi lokhu kuzoshintshaniswa ngokubhala izikhathi ezimbalwa.

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Nokho, ngemuva kwezinyanga eziyisithupha
okungenani, leli gunya, i-KommAustria, kumele lenze isinqumo.

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Lokhu kubizwa ngokuthi "isinqumo" e-Austria.

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- Lokhu kubalulekile ngokomthetho ngoba manje
usungamelana nakho; - ungakusa ezingeni elilandelayo.

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Ngokuthi, kulungile, lokho kungaba
isinqumo, kodwa kuhlala kunenqubo yokuphikisa.

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Kodwa ngaphambi kokuthi ngifike lapho,
ake sibheke ngokucophelela uMthetho we-ORF.

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Yini ngempela umsebenzi we-ORF?

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Ungakufunda manje. Ulwazi oluphelele emphakathini jikelele, njll.

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- Futhi lapho kubhalwe "ukulamula
nokukhuthaza isayensi" – yilona injongo yayo eyinhloko.

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Kuyisibopho sakhe ukwenza kanjalo.
Futhi zonke izinhlobo zezinye izinto.

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Ngizoyishiya kanjalo okwamanje.

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Akubalulekile ukuthi ngifunde lokhu ngokuningiliziwe manje.

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Noma kunjalo, ngihlale ngigqamisa amagama abalulekile.

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Futhi kukhona imiyalelo ecacile kakhulu
yokuthi lolu hlelo kumele lwakhiwe kanjani.

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Futhi phezulu nje sekubhaliwe "ukukhethwa kwezinhloso".

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Ngakho-ke, igama elithi 'objective' livela okokuqala.

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Kuthi-ke ukuthi imibono ehlaziyayo nayo kumele imelwe.

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Ukubheka ukuhlukahluka

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Kuyimfuneko ukuthi enze kanjalo ngokomthetho.

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Phansi kancane, kubhalwe futhi: Amazwana,
ukuhlaziywa, njll. Izimiso zokungathathi hlangothi.

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Lapha siphinde sibone igama elithi 'ubunembile'.

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Futhi kukhona ezinye izigaba ezincane ezilandelayo
mayelana nokuthi kufanele ahlele kanjani okuqukethwe.

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Manje kithi 'ikhwalithi'.

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Yingakho ngakusho lokhu kumdwebo.
Ngemuva kwakho konke, umdwebo uwuhlekiso nje.

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Isibonelo, akukho umthombo onikeziwe
wedatha esetshenziswe kulesi sigrafu.

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Uyazi ukuthi, (...) angikwazi nje
ukufaka noma yiliphi umfanekiso lapho.

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- Khona-ke kumele abe ngokubanzi, ozimele, ongakhethi uhlangothi
futhi, futhi, abe ngokweqiniso; - kumele

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ahlole ngokucophelela iqiniso kanye nomthombo,
futhi kumele abambelele emaqinisweni angafakazeka.

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Futhi – kumele kube nomnikelo ekufundiseni umphakathi.

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Konke empeleni sekulungile manje.

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Ngakho-ke uma enza lokho, besingaba
nezindlela zokuxhumana ezinhle kakhulu e-Austria.

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Kodwa akayenzi leyo nto!

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Manje sesifika emqoka.

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Kukhona okubizwa ngokuthi ukudluliselwa kwecala,
okusho igunya lokuqala. I-KommAustria izothatha

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isinqumo kungakapheli izinyanga eziyisithupha okungenani.

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- Futhi-ke sihlala siya esenzweni sesibili.

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Ngoba lapho i-ORF ihlulwa, ibiza igunya eliphezulu elilandelayo.

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Lena yiNkantolo Yezokuphatha Kazwelonke.

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Futhi uma mina noma iklabhu yethu ihlulwa, sihlala
sithatha udaba ngokushesha siya ezingeni elilandelayo.

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Futhi lokho empeleni kuhle kakhulu.

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Lena iphaneli yabahluleli abathathu.

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Kurekhodiwe igama negama.

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Abafakazi bangachazwa ngamagama, futhi izindleko zenkantolo
ziphinde zibe phansi kakhulu, zingama-euro angama-30 kuphela.

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Inkinga eyodwa kuphela izindleko ezihilelekile.

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Noma uwina, usazoba nezindleko zakho
zomthetho, uma unochwepheshe nezinye izinto ezinjalo.

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Ngeshwa, kunjalo nje lapha e-Austria.

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Kodwa lokho nakho kuyiqiniso
emthethweni wezobugebengu lapha e-Austria.

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Khona-ke kunegunya eliphezulu –
yilona igunya eliphakeme kunazo zonke.

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Lapha e-Austria, kuhlala kubizwa ngokuthi iNkantolo Yobulungisa.

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Kulesi simo, yinkantolo yezokuphatha, futhi ngokuhambisana nayo,
nakuba ngempela izimele, kunenkantolo yomthethosisekelo,

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lapho umuntu angakhala khona, isibonelo, ukuthi ezinye
izinhlinzeko kuMthetho we-ORF azihambisani nomthethosisekelo.

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Ngakho-ke awuhlaseli udaba ngqo, kodwa uthi: Lo
mthetho oyisisekelo awuhambisani noMthethosisekelo.

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Noma inqubo uqobo inamaphutha.

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Ungakwamukela lowo.

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Lokho nakho kuyinkantolo yomthetho.

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Lona yinkantolo ephakeme kunazo zonke ngokujwayelekile
– iNkantolo yoMthethosisekelo, inkantolo ephakeme.

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Iyini isipiliyoni sethu?

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Ngakho-ke lokhu akuyona isenzo sokuqala
esiphathelene nesimo sezulu esisithathile ngokumelene ne-ORF.

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I-KommAustria inezimfuneko ezisemthethweni
eziqinile kakhulu, nalezi zisayini nakho

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konke okunye – futhi ngokusobala isekela i-ORF.

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Ngakho-ke uzama ukuvimba isikhalazo ngangokunokwenzeka.

22:34.408 --> 22:41.952
Uthola zonke izinhlobo zezizathu zokuthi kungani isimo manje
kufanele sibonwe ngendlela ehlukile ngokombono kwabakhala.

22:41.952 --> 22:47.249
Sibe nezipiliyoni ezinhle kakhulu
neNkantolo Yezokuphatha Kazwelonke yesibili –

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okungenani namaphaneli abahluleli engibe nabo.

22:50.365 --> 22:57.971
Kukhona cishe abahluleli abangama-35 abasebenza lapho.
Kukhona izenethi eziningana, futhi azithathi hlangothi.

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Izinyathelo ziyaqhutshelwa nangendlela engazami ukuthonya lokhu.

23:00.940 --> 23:02.320
Lokhu kuvamile kakhulu ezinkantolo.

23:02.320 --> 23:07.692
Ujaji angakwazi ngempela ukunquma umphumela
wezinqubo uma lezi zinqubo ziqondiswa ngendlela ethile.

23:07.692 --> 23:15.000
Kuvamile kakhulu ezinkantolo zethu zokuphatha ukuthi
ubufakazi buqedwe noma abafakazi benqatshwe, ngokuthi.

23:15.000 --> 23:19.720
Kodwa isipiliyoni sami neNkantolo
Yezokuphatha Kazwelonke simaphakathi kakhulu.

23:19.720 --> 23:21.140
Kodwa manje kuba nzima.

23:21.140 --> 23:26.843
Amakhothi ethu, okungukuthi amakhothi
aphezulu, wonke abekwa kwezepolitiki.

23:26.843 --> 23:30.100
Futhi lokho kususa ngempumelelo umthetho emiphakathini eminingi.

23:30.100 --> 23:35.179
Ngoba uma iziphathimandla eziphakeme ezenza isinqumo sokugcina
zingasebenzi ngempela, noma masithi lapho

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kungabazeka ukuthi ziyimazibopho futhi zizimele
ngempela, lokho nakanjani kuyinkinga enkulu.

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Ikakhulukazi iNkantolo
yoMthethosisekelo. Kuyacaca ukuthi iqokwe kwezepolitiki.

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Futhi-ke, njengoba ngishilo, kunombuzo
omkhulu: Ingabe angakwazi ngempela ukuzimela?

23:48.820 --> 23:52.089
Futhi ngithanda ukusho amazwi ambalwa
mayelana neNkantolo yoMthethosisekelo.

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Iqukethe abahluleli abayishumi nane, yibo laba.

23:56.780 --> 24:01.126
Futhi lokho kujabulisa kakhulu manje, njengoba ngishilo.

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Umuntu angacabanga ukuthi abahluleli abahamba phambili ezweni
basebenza eNkantolo yoMthethosisekelo. Lokho akunjalo nhlobo.

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Akekho noyedwa umahluleli wakudala phakathi kwabo!

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Lokho empeleni akunakukholakala.

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Kodwa kunjalo nje.

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Kufanele babe nolwazi lwezomthetho.

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Ngikholelwa ukuthi nabo kumele babe
sebephothule iziqu, iziqu zomthetho.

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Phakathi kwabo kunezifundiswa eziningi
zaseyunivesithi, okusho abantu abake bahola

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isikhungo somthetho endaweni ethile noma abasasebenza.

24:31.227 --> 24:36.073
Futhi kunezisebenzi zikahulumeni eziningi ezisebenza
njengamagqwetha ekuphathweni – noma, okubi

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kakhulu, ezisebenza noma ezake zasebenza ngqo
ezindimeni zezepolitiki eminyangweni kahulumeni.

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Lokho kusondela kakhulu kwabasebenzi bakahulumeni kwezombusazwe.

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Futhi okubi kakhulu wukuthi kunamagqwetha
abambe iqhaza, abanye babo bemele abezepolitiki

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noma amaqembu ezombusazwe emsebenzini wabo.

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Ngakho-ke kuyacaca ukuthi iNkantolo yethu yoMthethosisekelo
inokuthambekela kwezombusazwe okukhulu kakhulu.

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Futhi lokhu kungabangelwa amaqembu, ngoba amaqembu anelungelo
lokwenza iziphakamiso – futhi konke abakuphakamisayo kuvunywa.

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Ngakho-ke ungabona kalula ukuthi amandla
asatshalaliswe kanjani e-Austria eminyakeni engu-20

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edlule, nokuthi yiziphi izihulumeni ezikhona lapho.

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Bese bonke bacindezela abafakisicelo
babo, ngokuthi, eNkantolo yoMthethosisekelo.

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Lokho kuyinkinga kakhulu kakhulu, ngempela,
ngoba – ngabe benza izinqumo ezingakhethi ngempela?

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Isibonelo, icala lasanda kuqedwa lapho
saphumelela esigabeni sokuqala nasesigabeni sesibili.

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Lena iphaneli yabahluleli abathathu.
Ukucabanga okuhle kakhulu, amakhasi angu-24.

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Kwabe-ke i-ORF yaya eNkantolo yoMthethosisekelo.

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Abameli bathi: Kulungile, empeleni
sesilahlekelwe icala langempela.

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Siya eNkantolo yoMthethosisekelo, eqokwe kwezepolitiki, futhi
bayiphikisa isinqumo seNkantolo yoLawulo ngesizathu esingamanga.

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Ngakho-ke uma uwafunda, uzibuza, "Bebhema ini
futhi?" Akukholakali ukuthi umthetho – kumele

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ngiqaphele lapha – ukuthi umthetho awusebenzi.

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Angifuni ukukhuluma ngokuphazamiseka kobulungisa,
kodwa akunakukholakala izizathu ezisanda kunikezwa.

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Kodwa ummeli oyedwa engisebenza naye kahle manje
uzama ukuletha iNkantolo yoMthethosisekelo

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yase-Austria phambi kweNkantolo Yobulungiswa YaseYurophu.

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Ngoba sisanesixazululo lesi.

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Kuyamangaza ngempela ukuthi kwesinye isikhathi ...
futhi ngeshwa, igunya eliphezulu liyilo elinqumayo.

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Ngokufanayo, ngubani indoda enamandla kakhulu esifundazweni?

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Lowo omemezela isimo esiphuthumayo. WayenguNgqongqoshe
wethu wezempilo ngesikhathi senhlekelele ye-coronavirus.

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Uthe ngokuzumayo umemezele isimo
esiphuthumayo, manje konke sekukhanseliwe. Ngakho-ke

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esimweni esiphuthumayo, umthethosisekelo awusebenzi.

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Yini enye esingayenza, sengivele ngasho...

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Baphulaphuli abathandekayo, ngaphansi
kohlelo nizothola isixhumanisi senkulumo ephelele.

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Sithanda ukuthatha leli thuba ukubonga
isikhulumi, uDkt. Bernhard Strehl, kanye

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namapulatifomu EIKE, Heartland Institute kanye ne-CFACT.