Yes, my name is Robert Stein. Dear Robert, thank you for your time.
You're here at the alternative WEF, you've also moderated a number of events, including the
Media of Tomorrow panel, as I understand it.
And what is your insight, have you already been able to draw anything from it, any lessons that we can
take away or that would be interesting for viewers?
Well, for one thing, it is of course an incredibly great event here.
I've never come across a meeting like this before, really.
So we have 30, 40 people here from the alternative media scene, from ... So many different media makers and
activists, lawyers, doctors, the whole panel is here.
All those who have stuck their heads out in recent years and said I'm not going to take
part are here together for the first time.
And of course it's incredible to be there alone as a participant and to feel this energy that
everyone agrees on: Something has to happen now.
Now we can't just do it individually, each in our own basement and on our own little
YouTube channel, but now we have to network it.
That alone is a really brilliant thing, that there is such a concentration of energy.
And the other thing is, of course, the concrete ideas or thoughts that have been expressed here.
Yesterday we played a simulation game along the lines of: another bacterial epidemic is declared and we are more or
less in the year after, in December 25, and the working groups then had to more or less figure it out:
What have we done as alternative media, as activists, as doctors, as lawyers to prevent this?
And that then went into working groups. And then, ... things were postulated that could be done so that,
with the experience of the last four years, we could say:
"That won't happen to us again." And that alone was really, really strong.
But the signal that just goes out here for me is: there are so many people who are doing something
and that will send a signal to the outside world.
Hundreds of thousands of people will see it. And I'm also curious to see how the other side will frame this event, so to speak, and
whether they will take it up at all. So that remains exciting.
And I personally also perceive a lot of energy in overcoming divisions and finding synergies together.
I don't think the aim was to try to reach a unanimous conclusion on all points, but to focus on what unites us, right?
I think I can feel it, it's in the air. Everyone wants peace, everyone wants the truth, everyone
somewhere wants us to move forward together here.
So that's also what I perceive here. Thank you very much for that.
Concrete steps, have you already recognized what the media of tomorrow will be doing now, in order to just
now in the next year... Or is that not yet ready to say?
In my opinion, nothing is ready to be announced yet.
But I am sure that the individual groups that have come together or that specific projects are underway.
I have now made I don't know how many new appointments on my own, already with other media makers and participants.
Of course, there are already synergies that are developing.
But it remains to be seen what will actually come of it.
This is perhaps the kick-off event for a new series.
This is now the first time without an audience.
Audience - just the invited guests and the people who were there in the appendix.
There were perhaps 100 people in total, the individual participants.
And the next time it takes place, it will be somewhere where maybe 1,000, 2,000 or I don't know how many people will be there.
And that is of course something that will attract a lot of people. I'm quite sure of that.
We also did a few short interviews here yesterday.
I was talking to Gerhard Wisnewski. I was working as a cameraman myself at the time.
And in the background stood Paul Brandenburg with Markus Haintz. Then Professor Bhakdi suddenly joined them.
And that alone in the background, if I had seen it as a spectator - like that:
"Where was that? Why? I want to go there. What were they doing there? What is that?"
So I think the signal effect alone is incredibly important from what is going on here.
Yes, it really is a kind of "Walk of Fame" of the future somehow. You walk through here and think:
"Ah, I know him, I know him, I know him." Fantastic.
It's also a huge honor for me to be able to interview such people here. Fantastic.
So thank you also for this event, and for co-hosting it here.
We have now asked everyone here a question that interests us:
What is it like now that, let's say, censorship is spreading and the whole thing is being led by the
original WEF - let's say - into this Great Reset?
This means that we have various crises and no longer have the option of using digital products.
No more YouTube, no more websites, no more anything. What advice do you have for our viewers?
Is independent, Internet-independent networking - i.e. out of anonymity and into regional
networks - a key, an important point for the future?
Someone said it on the panel yesterday: "Fire up the printing presses".
Yes, so what you've been doing for many years, voice and counter-voice, you can't delete that.
You have to throw it in the bin by hand. You have to dispose of it.
It's not just a click if you don't want it and just delete it as an email, it's analog.
And that is of course one of the ways of saying: We no longer have any digital options, we have to do it analog again.
Yes, with direct mail, with quasi, with good old ..., what is it called? - Letter/chain letter.
So you just hand people a piece of paper.
Stickers, for example, are another one of those things. Stickers with rubber that is difficult to remove.
Do you know that you're putting something there somewhere, that you need a blade to get it off?
A bit of anarchic information. One or two logos then.
And of course, very importantly, networking in your personal environment.
That you dare to confront the people around you with these things.
Many people are still trapped in this 'thought dungeon', as someone put it. Because they only get their information
from the mass media. And that has to be broken up carefully.
It's not easy, you probably know that too.
Many people are used to sitting in this cocoon. It's cozy, you know where you are.
And you don't have to worry about any sinister forces that might be doing something in the background.
But you have to slowly pick people up at the level where they are.
I always do it that way, it's also a running gag now.
When I'm in discussions like this, I always try to let a few test balloons go up.
For example: Building 7, World Trade Center 7.
For me, that's the classic test, a litmus test, where I know exactly: Okay, when I suddenly get an answer like this:
"Excuse me? Building 7?" "Yeah, World Trade Center 7 - 9/11 and all." "Can't say."
"Then maybe it's better to go to the Champions League...", I always say.
You know, then you just realize, okay, you can't pick up the person on the ..., you just can't
pick them up. And there's no magic formula for that.
But I know, or I can feel and see, that the incredible crises, these crazy times, with one disaster report after another,
are increasing people's willingness or desire for information.
I just heard today that 38% of German companies will cut jobs next year.
In addition to what has been happening all this time.
Because: We no longer have cheap gas, we have volatile energies, we have an unstable electricity grid, we have no security, we
have people sitting in positions that don't belong there at all.
Politicians who are not allowed to be mentioned by their nickname.
There are completely incompetent people in positions who are simply totally ideologically burned.
And of course people who have only read and watched Süddeutsche Zeitung, Der Spiegel and Tagesschau will notice that too.
So time is working for us. I just have a problem with the fact that you have to go
through the bottom of the valley, so to speak.
We are already in such a valley. I don't have to descend into the biggest, deepest valley now.
I picked up a saying from Eva Herman and Andreas Popp: "We just have to get through the eye of the needle now!"
It could also be easier. If enough people start thinking along with us. But I think that's why we all came here.
But when I have to go through a valley like that, I'm grateful to do it with people like that. Also together.
And that we become more and more. Then things will go uphill again.
Yes, that sounds good, doesn't it? So after the valley comes the mountain on top. I'm full of "Hopium" .
Super. That's one of my basic characteristics. Just there ... really getting on with it.
Sometimes in life you do real loops or something.
I was with you on 27.11.2012 at the AZK. And that was one of the greatest moments of my life, really. It was like,
wow, 3000 people, everything went so well. And the feedback.
And I thought, oh, dear life, what's next? Come on, show me.
That was just before 21.12.2012 and so on. I thought to myself, yes, here we go.
Shortly afterwards, I was diagnosed with cancer. You know, I thought to myself, oh, dear
universe, this is not how I imagined it would be.
And then I flew a pretty crazy loop, which ended well, but it was a spin cycle.
That was really crass. But it also taught me certain things that were important.
And I wouldn't have come this way now without this crass experience.
So it was super bad at first. And a red mist of fire and pain for a long, long time.
And also the uncertainty of what will actually happen now? What will happen next? Will it work at all?
And in hindsight, that was a matter of luck. Even if it sounds crass.
You can always do without the pain. But that was difficult. And in hindsight - very, very grateful.
But it's not in your hands. It comes to you and the personal tests you choose for your incarnation contract,
as the saying goes, are not known in advance, thank God.
But in hindsight, I'm here now, I'm still allowed to be involved and I'm really - I'm not
now every day directing a prayer to the heavens.
But I often wake up and thank creation, the Mother-Father-Creator power of all that is.
I am not so religious that I have manifested or personalized this.
But I am very grateful for the power that sent me here.
And the fact that I am allowed to work here, even in such a position, makes me incredibly humble at the moment.
And also humble in the sense that we can play an active role in shaping this exciting time.
Because that's the time that you remember later in the history books.
What did people do back then so that it didn't get so bad?
I'm firmly convinced of that. I think the viewers are too.
Thank you so much for opening your heart and sharing with us. Fantastic, really.
And also for your work, that you invest yourself so much and you can just feel this energy, you radiate it.
You have a lot of positive things, that's very good, that can go out to all viewers.
That's why we're here, isn't it? That's why we live like this.
Thank you very much, Robert. We will continue. Thank you, Mathias. Super.