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Ndingakwazi ukuxhasa yonke into endiyithethayo.

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Idathabheyisi yoqobo yePaul
Ehrlich Institute, eyathi kamva yavalwa.

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Kuphindwe kangaphi ukufa? Asikokuphindwe nge-10 pesenti,
asikokuphindwe nge-20 pesenti, kodwa kuphindwe ngama-50.

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Bebefanele bayeke kwangoko, kwangoko.

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Ngoko ke, isigqibo sam sesokuba i-RKI,
i-Paul Ehrlich Institute, ibingakwazi kwaphela

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ukuvavanya ingozi okanye ukhuseleko lwezi jovo.

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Lalilikhanyelo lokusebenza, ngqo,
kufuneka uthethe ngqo ngolo hlobo.

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Kwaye wonke umntu wayesazi oko, bonke ababejongene.

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Ngubani owayesazi ntoni malunga nesitofu se-COVID-19 kwaye nini?
Kwaye ngubani obefanele ukuba wayesazi ntoni kwaye kutheni?

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Le yisihloko senqaku elilandelayo, elathi uNjing. Gqr. Werner
Bergholz walibeka kwisimpoziyam yeendaba

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ye-MWGFD enomxholo othi "Amayeza emva kweCorona –
Uphononongo noMbono" ngomhla wama-26 ku-Okthobha 2024.

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UGqr. Bergholz wayesakuba ngunjingalwazi we-electrical
engineering kwiYunivesithi yaseJacobs eBremen kwaye ulilungu

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le-ISC; eyi "International Standards Consulting GmbH und Co. KG",
ingcaphephe kwicandelo lokuvavanya umgangatho kunye nomngcipheko

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eneminyaka emininzi yamava kushishino kwaye
ililungu lebhodi yeMediziner und Wissenschaftler für

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Gesundheit, Freiheit und Demokratie e.V. (MWGFD).

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Ewe, enkosi kakhulu ngokundivumela ukuba ndiyibonise apha!

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Njengonjiniyela wombane,
akusoloko kulula ukujongana nento enjalo.

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Kodwa ndisoloko ndixelela abantu,
bendijongene nobhubhane wee-chip, ii-chip ezigulayo.

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Nendlela otyhutyha ngayo lo mbandela ngohlalutyo lwezibalo uze
uqwalasele oko kubaluleke ngokwenene apha – iyafana kakhulu.

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Ndisebenza ngezi ndlela.
Kulungile. Ndiza kufunda isivakalisi ngoku.

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Ndiza kufunda isivakalisi. Ewe, kulungile. Ngoko ke...

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Nangona kunjalo, umqathango oqala ube semthethweni usenokuthi
kamva ungabikho ngokomthetho usebenza kwixesha elizayo (qaphela:

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kwixesha elizayo!) ukuba iingqikelelo zokuqala
ezenziwa yindlu yowiso-mthetho azisabambekanga ngenxa yokuba

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zichithwe ziziphumo okanye inkqubela eze emva kwezo.

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Esi sisicatshulwa esivela kwisigwebo seNkundla yoMgaqo-siseko
malunga nokuba ingaba imfuneko yokunika ingxelo esekelwe

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kwiindawo ezithile, oko kukuthi ukugonywa okunyanzelekileyo,
ingaba iyahambelana na noMgaqo-siseko, kwaye bafikelela

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kwisigqibo sokuba ewe, iyahambelana, kuba abantu abasebenza
kwiikhaya zabalupheleyo, ukuba bagonyiwe,

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babeka umngcipheko omncinci kakhulu wosulelo
kubantu abangasekho kwimpilo entle kangako.

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Kwaye oko, ewe kona, kuneziphumo ezinkulu ngokomthetho.

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Kwiminyaka emibini eyadlulayo, uJosef Finger
wayesele eqaphele ukuba le yintlenga kulo mgqibo.

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Kwaye ngoku, njengoko iNkundla yoLawulo yase-Osnabrück ithumele
lo mbuzo – ingaba isekhona na kumgaqo-siseko? – kwiNkundla

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yoMgaqo-siseko, kwisigqibo esaziwa ngokuba
sisigqibo sokuqala, sinomdla wokubona ukuba

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ngoku baza kusisebenzisa na esi sithuba somthetho.

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Ikamva! Lelo ibe yintetho ebaluleke kakhulu.

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Ngamanye amazwi, bathe ngokungathanga ngqo,
ewe, sasingazi ngcono ngexesha lokupapashwa

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kwale nto, ngomhla wama-27 kuTshazimpuzi 2022.

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Ngosuku olulandelayo, ngomhla wama-28
kuTshazimpuzi, ingxelo yeveki ye-RKI ibandakanye igrafu

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ebonisa ukuba ukusebenza kwesitofu sasiziqala.

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Okungabantu abangaphantsi kweminyaka
engama-60, oko kukuthi abo bachaphazelekayo yiyo. Ziro.

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Oku kuthetha ukuba ukuba la mazwi athathwa nzulu, kanye
emva kosuku nje ebe sele engahambelani nomgaqo-siseko.

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Kwaye umsebenzi wam ngoku kukubonisa ukuba ayizange ibe njalo.

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Bakhohlisiwe, nangona ndiyiyeka ivulekile umbuzo
wokuba ingaba baqaphele na ukuba bakhohlisiwe.

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Kodwa abanye abantu kumele ukuba babesazi. Kwaye
ngoku ndiza kudlula kulo lonke eli xakeka le-coronavirus.

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Ngoko ke, siza kuqala ngokuvalelo. Loo nto
yayikukwinyanga kaMatshi, malunga naphakathi enyangeni kaMatshi.

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Kwaye ekupheleni kuka-Epreli, kwakho upapasho oluvela kwi-ETH
Zurich , olwalunophononongo, uphononongo lwe-seroprevalence

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: "Le nto ayimbi ngaphezu komkhuhlane oqhelekileyo."

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Into elandelayo, uvavanyo lomngcipheko okanye isigqibo
esenziwe yi-RKI – oku kufumaneka kwiifayile ze-RKI –

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lonyuswe ukusuka kwinqanaba eliphakathi lwaya kweliphezulu.

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Kwaye kungekhona ngokusekelwe kwiziphumo
zophando, kodwa ngomyalelo. Oko akwamkelekanga kwaphela!

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Kwaye amazinga ezehlo, njengoko ebizwa, anyuka, kodwa kungekhona
ngenxa yokuba bekukho iimeko ezininzi kakhulu eziye zagqabhuka –

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njengoko bekutshiwo, umsebenzi we-exponential ufana nokugqabhuka
– kodwa kungenxa yokuba nje kwenziwa iimvavanyo ezininzi.

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Kwaye xa kwakufakwa i-lockdown, ixabiso
elibizwa ngokuba yi-R lalisele lisihla.

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Ngoko ke bekungenanjongo kwaphela,
ukuba uyijonga ngokungathathi cala.

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Owayesakuba nguNobhala wezeMpilo uSpahn kufuneka ukuba
wayesazi ngale nto, njengoko eyazi ngeefayile ze-RKI kwaye

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unoxanduva lokuhlala esazi ngazo zonke iimpapasho ezinokubakho.

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Andinakulindela ukuba ayiqonde ngokwenene
imibhalo yezonyango, kodwa unabasebenzi abaneleyo.

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Kwaye oko kwavela kwi-ETH Zurich,
ngoko ke kwaziwa ekupheleni kuka-Epreli.

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Kwakufanele ukuba kucace nakuye ukuba izinga lokwenzeka ,
endandisitshoyo ngelo xesha ndandikwiKomiti yezeMpilo,

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nangona kwakungenoNovemba 2020 okanye u-Oktobha 2020, asilulo
umlinganiselo ucacisiweyo ngokwaneleyo kuba unokuthi uqhathwe.

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Kutheni? Ukuba ndivavanya abantu abali-10,000 kwisithili, ndiza
kufumana iziphumo eziyi-500 ezibonisa ukuba banayo, umzekelo.

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Ukuba ndivavanya inombolo ephindwe kabini ngaphandle
kwesizathu, ndiyayifumana inombolo ephindwe kabini.

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Ngoko ke, kufuneka usoloko
usibhekisa kwinani labantu abavavanyiweyo.

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Abazange bayenze. Ndabuza
abasemagunyeni basekuhlaleni nje ngokuzonwabisa.

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Hayi, abanalo nofifi lokuba zazilikhulu kangaphi iimvavanyo.
Luqikelelo nje olungacacanga, hayi ngaphezulu, hayi ngaphantsi.

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Into elandelayo yayiziimaski.

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UChristian Drosten wayesazi ukuba
bezingenamsebenzi kwaye bezingayi kuba nampembelelo.

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Kutheni? NgoFebruwari, wathi
wayengacingi ukuba iimaski zisebenza kangako.

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NangoSeptemba, uphinde wathetha into
efanayo kwintlanganiso yeKomiti yezeMpilo.

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Kanti ke, ngoJuni – ndicinga, okanye ubuncinci
malunga nalelo xesha – umthetho jikelele wokunxiba iimaski

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wanyanzeliswa nangona kwakungcono ukungakwenzi oko.

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Kwaye nam ndiyingcaphephe koku. Yintoni enokudlula kwiimaski?

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Ngenxa yomsebenzi wam kwi-microelectronics kumagumbi
acocekileyo , oku kunokulinganiswa ngokuthe ngqo. Bububhanxa.

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Kwaye le nto ndiyibona njengekhondom yomzimba wonke, endakha
ndayinxiba kwigumbi elicocekileyo – ndikhuphe amehlo kuphela, ewe

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– eli laphu legumbi elicocekileyo lilunge kakhulu kunesinye sezo
maski zihlekisayo ze-FFP2 – eso sixhobo

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sidibene ngokuncamathelisa esinemingxuma
emalunga ne-micrometres ezilishumi nangaphezulu...

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Kucacile ukuba ukuba ndifuna ukuvala igumbi lokulala ukuze
kungangeni miyane kodwa ndivula iifestile, ngokuqinisekileyo

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andizukusebenzisa i-wire mesh fencing. Kodwa ke, yile nto nje.

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Ewe, nam bendikule komishoni yezazi.

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Ngelishwa, andikwazanga ukudlulisela oku kubo oogxa bam
endibathandayo, nangona ndabaxelela ngokucacileyo ukuba le

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yintetho engenangqondo nokuba, ngenxa yezizathu
ezisisiseko, imaski ayinakunceda xa kusiza iintsholongwane

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kunye nezinye iithontsi ezincinci eziphaphathekayo.

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Iimvavanyo ezikhawulezayo: ibali elidala nje!

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Ndikwabakho apha kwiKomiti yezeMpilo: izinga leempazamo, izinga
leziphumo ezingeyonyani ezibonisa ukuba unayo –

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ingakumbi kuvavanyo oluqhelekileyo – liphezulu
ngokugqithisileyo kwaye lenzeka kancinci kakhulu!

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Ngoko ke ehlotyeni lowama-2020, njengoko sonke
sisakhumbulayo, zonke iintlobo zamanyathelo, kuquka

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nokunyanzeliswa kokunxiba iimaski, zazisasesebenzini.

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Ubuncinci i-90% yeziphumo ezingeyonyani (iimvavanyo), mhlawumbi
nangaphezulu. Kwaye obu buhlanya – iisayikili ezingama-45!

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Ngoko ke, naphi na apho ujongayo – yomphunga nje
yonke loo nto okanye akukho bungqina benzululwazi!

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Ngoku ke sifika kokona kubi konke, iinkciniba.

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Kwaziwa nini ukuba izitofu zokugonya azikhuseli ekudluliseleni?

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uDisemba 2020. Yiloo nto eyayibhalwe kumaphepha e-EMA.

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Ngoko ke ndingatsho ukuba wonke umntu kurhulumente
obekhona ubenoxanduva lokuphanda ngale nto

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ngononophelo olukhulu aze afikelele kwizigqibo ezifanelekileyo.

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Abazange bayenze. Kwahamba ngolu hlobo.

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Ugonyo lwal... ibiyindibano
noonondaba ebibanjwe yiPaul Ehrlich Institute:

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UNkosikazi Keller-Stanislavski wayesele
etshilo ekupheleni kukaJanyuwari ukuba bekusele

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kufile abantu abalishumi ukuza kuthi ga ngoko.

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Owu, ngoku kukho enye indoda eswelekileyo. Le yingxelo
evela kwikomiti yophando lwe-coronavirus eBrandenburg.

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Kodwa kubi kakhulu kunoko. Septemba
2021: Amanani avela kwi-RKI – umthombo.

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Ndingakwazi ukuxhasa yonke into endiyithethayo.

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Idathabheyisi yoqobo yePaul
Ehrlich Institute, eyathi kamva yavalwa.

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Kuphindaphindeke kangaphi ukusweleka? Asikokuphindwe ngama-10
ekhulwini ukusweleka kunokugonywa okuqhelekileyo, asikokuphindwe

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ngama-20 ekhulwini – kodwa kuphindaphindeke ngama-50!

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Bebefanele bayeke kwangoko, kwangoko!

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Kodwa ngandlel' ithile loo nto yatywinwa – okanye
yatywinwa phantsi kwekhaphethi – nokuba yeyiphi oyikhethayo.

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Iziphumo ezingathandekiyo ezimandundu! Iimpapasho
ezahlukeneyo njengemithombo, ezihlolwe ngoogxa ,

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malunga nesihlanu pesenti (5%) sabo bachaphazelekileyo!

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Masibale ukuba bangaphi eJamani.

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Sithetha ngesibalo esiphakathi kwesigidi esinye ukuya
kwezibini ukuya kwezintathu, kuxhomekeke kwindlela osibala

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ngayo – nokuba ubala ngedosi nganye okanye ngomntu ngamnye.

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Ngoku siyaqhubela phambili. Uyabona oko nangayiphi na indlela?

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Ukulimala: Akukho datha ithembekileyo ifumanekayo
ngeJamani. Nangona kunjalo, idatha iyafumaneka ngeNgilani.

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Ngokuhambelana ngokugqibeleleyo nexesha lokugonywa
okanye ukuqala kokugonywa – ukuba ungatsho njalo

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– inani lamabango okukhubazeka avunyiweyo lonyuke.

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Ubudlelwane obugqibeleleyo . Kwaye
bubaluleke kakhulu. Kwaye kunjalo nakuJamani, ewe.

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Isalathiso esilandelayo: Kutshanje, kwenziwe isicelo
kurhulumente nguNksk. Tatti we-BSW okanye we-Left Party:

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Kukho iingxelo ezingaphi ezongezelelweyo zeziphumo
ebezingalindelekanga xa kuthelekiswa nokugonywa okuqhelekileyo?

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Ifaktha ngama-20, 21 ukuchanabeka. Ifaktha ngama-21.

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Bendisele ndipapashe into efanayo
ngoSeptemba 2021, ndiyibhengeza esidlangalaleni.

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Ngoko ke abo banoxanduva kumele ukuba bebeyazi yonke le nto.

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Kwaye eyona nto ibalaseleyo, ewe, ngoku ngamava am.

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Ndibe nethamsanqa lokuba ngufakazi ingcali kwityala
elibizwa ngokuba lwamajoni, ngoJuni nangoJulayi

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ka-2022 eLeipzig, phambi kweNkundla yoLawulo yeFederal.

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Phakathi kwezinye izinto, sibuze umntu onoxanduva lokuvuma
izitofu zokugonya, oko kukuthi, umntu olawulayo

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ngokomgangatho, ukuba: "Uyakwazi ukubona izinto
phantsi kwemayikroskophu – wakha wazijonga na?"

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Impendulo ibe yile: "Ukuba ayipapashwanga
ngabaphengululi abaziingcali, andinamdla."

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Kwaye ndithi oko kukwala ukusebenza.

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Lo mntu ebeya kunyanzeleka ukuba alandelele
olo lwazi. Kunye nayo yonke enye inkcazelo.

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Basilela ukuphanda ukuba inkunkuma ivela phi – nto leyo eyathi
yaphinda yapapashwa, ukuba bekukho inkunkuma ethile,

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inkunkuma yezinto eziphilayo, njengoko iqabane lam
lisandul' ukucacisa. "Hayi, asinamdla kuyo nayiphi na loo nto."

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Ndandimbuzile imibuzo eyahlukeneyo malunga
nento umntu anokuyenza rhoqo kwimeko enjalo.

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Baye bakwala yonke into. "Hayi,
akunyanzelekanga ukuba siyenze loo nto, asivumelekanga

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ukuba siyenze loo nto, asinaxanduva ngayo."

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Ngoko ke isigqibo sam, yaye ndasitsho esidlangalaleni emva koko,
isigqibo sam esi ndisifumene kula mava, njengoko ndingubungqina

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bale mihla ngenxa yobulungisa, kukuba iPaul Ehrlich Institute
ibingakwazi kwaphela ukuvavanya ingozi okanye ukhuseleko

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lwezi jovo, kuba bona... oko yayikukuba balile ukusebenza.

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Ngokuqinisekileyo, kufuneka uthethe ngqo kangako.

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Kwaye wonke umntu wayesazi loo nto, bonke
ababeyilawuli. Kwaye kwabakho nokwaphulwa komthetho.

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Ukuba ufuna ukufunda ngayo, ayisosiphelo sam, kodwa sesale
komishoni yeengcali ngokweCandelo 5(9) loMthetho woKhuselo

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lweZifo, eyagqiba – uNjingalwazi Kingreen
waseRegensburg, umzekelo, wayebandakanyekile –

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yagqiba: Ukwaphulwa okukhulu koMthetho oSisiseko:

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Akuthethwanga, umzekelo, ngenyani yokuba le breki
yongxamiseko yomdibaniso; umzekelo, ukuba le nto

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ingathethekiyo... iBhunga likaTshansela... ayamkelekanga!

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Kwaye ke – eyona nto imbi, ukuba sithandabuz' – kukuba uMnu
Spahn, kamva uMnu Lauterbach, yaye bonke bebesazi oku, kwaye

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nesiphelo sam sisile, sokuba banako ukunqumamisa uMthetho
oSiseko, begqitha iPhalamende – loo nto ayamkelekanga kwaphela!

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Ngoko ke mandishwankathele: bonke abo basezikhundleni
zoxanduva, kwaye konke oku kunokungqinwa, babesazi

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kwasekuqaleni ukuba yonke le nto ibiphazama ngokupheleleyo.

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Kwaye apha ndiza kukhankanya le nto uRainer Füllmich ebesoloko
eyibiza ngokuba: umonakalo owenzelwe ngabom, ongenamgomo.

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Yiloo nto. Kwaye, ewe kona, oku
kufuneka kujongwane nakuko ngokusemthethweni.

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Kwaye umntu endisebenza naye endimthandayo osecaleni kwam
ngokuqinisekileyo uza kuba nento ayithethayo ngaloo nto.

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Ngokuqinisekileyo akukho lula njengoko kuvakala.

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Kodwa kukho ubungqina obaneleyo bokuba abantu abathandekayo
ababenoxanduva apho bonke basilele ngokumangalisayo.

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Kwaye ndithi kuya kuba nokwenzeka nokungqina injongo yabo.

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Enkosi!