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Ngingakwazi ukusekela konke engikushoyo.

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Idathabheyisi yokuqala ye-Paul
Ehrlich Institute, eyavalwa kamuva.

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Kuphindwe kangaki ukufa? Hhayi ngamaphesenti
angu-10 okwengeziwe kunokugonywa okuvamile, hhayi

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ngamaphesenti angu-20, kodwa ngokuphindwe ngu-50.

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Kwafanele bayeke ngokushesha, ngokushesha.

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Ngakho-ke isiphetho sami ukuthi i-RKI, i-Paul Ehrlich Institute,
ayikwazanga nhlobo ukuhlola ingozi noma ukuphepha kwalawa meji.

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Lokho kwakuwukungafuni ukusebenza,
impela, kumele ukusho ngokusobala kanjalo.

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Futhi wonke umuntu wayekwazi lokho, bonke ababephethe.

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Ubani owawazi ini mayelana nomjovo we-COVID-19 nokuthi
nini? Futhi ubani okwakufanele azi ini nokuthi kungani?

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Lena isihloko sendatshana elandelayo, eyethulwe nguProfesa
Dokotela Werner Bergholz emhlanganweni

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wezindaba we-MWGFD othi "Imithi ngemva kweCorona –
Ukubuyekeza nombono" ngomhlaka 26 Okthoba 2024.

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UDkt. Bergholz ungusolwazi odlule kwezobunjiniyela bakagesi
eJacobs University Bremen futhi ungumlingani we-ISC; eyaziwa

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ngokuthi "International Standards Consulting GmbH und Co. KG",
ingcweti emkhakheni wokuhlola ikhwalithi nobungozi eneminyaka

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eminingi yesipiliyoni embonini futhi ilungu
lebhodi leMediziner und Wissenschaftler für

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Gesundheit, Freiheit und Demokratie e.V. (MWGFD).

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Yebo, ngiyabonga kakhulu
ngokungivumela ukuthi ngethule lokhu lapha!

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Njengonjiniyela kagesi, akuyona into
ecacile kakhulu ukubhekana nento enjengale.

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Kodwa ngihlala ngitshela abantu ukuthi
bengibhekana nobhubhane lwamachips, amachips eziguli.

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Futhi indlela oyisondela ngayo kulesi sihloko
ngokuhlaziywa kwezibalo nokucabangela lokho

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okubalulekile ngempela lapha – kufana kakhulu.

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Ngisebenzisa lezi zindlela. Kulungile. Manje ngizofunda umusho.

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Ngizofunda isivakashi. Yebo, kuhle. Ngakho...

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Nokho, umthetho oqala ube semthethweni ungase kamuva ungabi
semthethweni ngokuthinta ikusasa (qaphela: ikusasa!)

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uma izimiso zokuqala zomkhandlu womthetho sezingenasizi
ngoba sezidilizwe yiziphetho noma intuthuko eyalandela.

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Lena yisitatimende esivela esinqumweni seNkantolo
yoMthethosisekelo mayelana nokuthi ingabe isidingo sokubika

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esisekelwe ezikhungweni, okungukuthi ukugonywa okuphoqelekile,
siyahambisana noMthethosisekelo, futhi bafinyelela esiphethweni

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sokuthi yebo, siyahambisana, ngoba abantu abasebenza ezindlini
zokunakekelwa kwabantu asebekhulile, uma begonyiwe, benza ingozi

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yokutheleleka ibe phansi kakhulu kubantu abangasaphilanga kahle.

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Futhi lokho, ngempela, kunemiphumela emikhulu kwezomthetho.

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Eminyakeni emibili edlule, uJosef Finger
wayesebonile ukuthi lokhu kuyisango langemuva kulesi sinqumo.

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Futhi manje njengoba iNkantolo yoLawulo yase-Osnabrück ithumele
lo mbuzo – ingabe kusekuhambisana noMthethosisekelo? – eNkantolo

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yoMthethosisekelo, okwaziwa ngokuthi
isinqumo sokuqala, silangazelela ukubona ukuthi

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manje bazoyisebenzisa yini le ndawo evulekile.

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Esikhathini esizayo! Leli isivakashi esibaluleke kakhulu.

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Ngamanye amazwi, bathi ngokungaqondile,
yebo, besingazi kangcono ngaleso sikhathi lokhu

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kushicilelwa, mhla ziyi-27 ku-Ephreli 2022.

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Ngosuku olulodwa kamuva, mhla ziyi-28 ku-Ephreli,
umbiko weRKI wansontsambo wawuhlanganisa igrafu

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ebonisa ukuthi ukusebenza kwemithi yokugoma kwakungu-zero.

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Okungukuthi kubantu abangaphansi kweminyaka
engu-60, okusho labo abathintekayo kuyo. Ziro.

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Lokhu kusho ukuthi uma la magama ethathwa
ngokungathi sína, ngempela ngemva kosuku

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olulodwa ayeza-ke abe ngaphandle komthethosisekelo.

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Futhi umsebenzi wami manje
ukukhombisa ukuthi lokhu kwakungekho kanjalo.

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Bakhahlelwe, nakuba ngishiya umbuzo
wokuthi ngabe baqaphele yini ukuthi bakhahlelwe.

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Kodwa abanye abantu kumele babe sebazi. Futhi manje
ngizodlula kulo lonke lolu hlelo lwe-coronavirus.

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Ngakho-ke, sizokuqala ngokuvala. Lokho
kwenzeka ngoMashi, cishe maphakathi noMashi.

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Ekupheleni kuka-Ephreli, kwashicilelwa incwadi evela e-ETH Zurich
, eyayiqukethe ucwaningo, ucwaningo

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lokusabalala kwamabhowuni egazini (seroprevalence):
"Lena into ayibi kakhulu kunomkhuhlane ophakathi."

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Okulandelayo, ukuhlolwa kobungozi noma ukuhlaziywa okwenziwe
yi-RKI – lokhu kusezifayilini ze-RKI – sekuphakanyisiwe

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kusuka ezingeni eliphakathi kuya ezingeni eliphezulu.

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Futhi hhayi ngokusekelwe kunoma yiziphi
iziphetho, kodwa ngokuyala. Lokho akwamukeleki nhlobo!

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Futhi amazinga okwenzeka, njengoba ebizwa, anyuke, kodwa hhayi
ngoba bekukhona izimo eziningi kakhulu ezagcwala

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ngokushesha – njengoba bekushiwo, umsebenzi we-exponential ufana
nokuqhuma – kodwa nje ngoba kwenziwa izivivinyo eziningi.

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Futhi lapho kwabekwa ukuboshwa
komphakathi, inani elibizwa nge-R lalisesehla.

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Ngakho-ke kwakungenangqondo nhlobo uma ukubheka ngokungakhethi.

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uNgqongqoshe Wezempilo Wangaphambilini uSpahn kumele
ukuthi wayekwazi ngalokhu, njengoba eyazi ngamafayela e-RKI

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futhi enesibopho sokuhlala ehlaziya zonke izincwadi ezifanele.

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Angikwazi ukulindela ukuthi aqonde ngempela
imibhalo yezokwelapha, kodwa unabasebenzi abanele.

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Futhi lokho kwavela e-ETH Zurich,
ngakho kwakwaziwa ekupheleni kuka-Ephreli.

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Kumele futhi kube sobala kuye ukuthi izinga lokwenzeka ,
engangikushilo ngaleso sikhathi ngangiseKomidi Lezempilo,

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nakuba kwakunguNovemba 2020 noma u-Okthoba 2020 kuphela,
akuyona indlela yokukala echazwe kahle ngoba ingashintshwa.

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Kungani? Uma ngihlola abantu abayizinkulungwane
eziyishumi esifundeni, ngizothola imiphumela

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engu-500 ebonisa ukuthi banegciwane, isibonelo.

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Uma ngihlola inombolo ephindwe kabili ngaphandle
kwesizathu, ngithola inombolo ephindwe kabili.

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Ngakho-ke kufanele njalo ukuxhumanise nenani labantu abahlolwe.

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Abazange bayenze. Ngabuza
iziphathimandla zendawo nje ngokuzijabulisa.

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Cha, abanalo ulwazi lokuthi kwakukhona izivivinyo ezingaki.
Kuyisilinganiso nje esisondele, akwengeziwe, akuncishwanga.

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Into elandelayo kwakuyizifihla-buso.

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uChristian Drosten wayazi ukuthi
bezingasizi futhi ngeke babe nomthelela.

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Kungani? NgoFebhuwari, wathi
wayengacabangi ukuthi izimaski ziyasebenza kangako.

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Ngisho ngoSepthemba, waphinda wathi
okufanayo ekuhlolweni kweKomidi Lezempilo.

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Kodwa-ke, ngoJuni – ngikholwa, noma okungenani
cishe ngaleso sikhathi – kwaphonswa umthetho jikelele

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wokugqoka imaski ngaphandle kokucabanga okungcono.

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Futhi mina nginguchwepheshe kulokho. Yini engadlula kuma-mask?

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Ngenxa yomsebenzi wami kwezama-microelectronics emagumbini
ahlanzekile , kungenzeka ukukala lokhu ngqo. Akuyona iqiniso.

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Futhi engikubheka njengekhondomu yomzimba wonke, engake
ngayigqoka egumbini elihlanzekile – ngamehlo ami kuphela abukeka

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ngaphandle, vele – le lesi sigqoko segumbi elihlanzekile singcono
kakhulu kunomunye walezo zimask FFP2

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ezihlekisayo – lezo ezincanyelwe ndawonye ezinembobo
ezilingana namamikrometha ayishumi noma ngaphezulu...

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Kuyacaca ukuthi uma ngifuna ukuvala igumbi lokulala
ukuze izimiyane zingangeni kodwa ngivula amawindi, ngempela

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angisoze ngisebenzise ucingo lwenethi. Kodwa yilokho nje.

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Yebo, nami ngangikule khomishini yochwepheshe.

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Ngeshwa, angikwazanga ukudlulisa lokhu kozakwethu engibathandayo,
nakuba ngabatshela ngokusobala ukuthi lokhu kuyize nokuthi,

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ngezizathu eziyisisekelo, imaski ayikwazi ukusiza ekuvikeleni
amagciwane kanye nezingcezu ezincane kakhulu eziphathwa umoya.

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Izivivinyo ezisheshayo: indaba efanayo!

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Ngangikhona futhi lapha eKomidi Lezempilo: izinga lamaphutha,
izinga lokuthola amaphutha angamanga – ikakhulukazi ekuhlolweni

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okuvamile – liphezulu ngokweqile ngenxa yokwenzeka okuncane!

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Ngakho-ke ehlobo lika-2020, njengoba sonke
sikhumbula, zonke izinhlobo zezinyathelo,

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kuhlanganise nokugqoka izimaski okuyimpoqo, zazisasebenza.

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Okungenani amaphesenti angu-90 weziphupho ezingelona
iqiniso (ezivivinyweni), mhlawumbe ngisho

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nangaphezulu. Futhi lobu buhlanya – izijikelezo ezingama-45!

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Ngakho noma ubheka kuphi – konke kuwumkhovu
omncane noma kungekho bufakazi besayensi!

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Manje sesifika kokubi kakhulu kunakho konke, ukugonywa.

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Kwaziwa nini ukuthi imijovo ayivikeli ekudlulisweni?

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Disemba 2020. Yilokho okwakubhalwe emaphepheni e-EMA.

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Ngakho-ke ngithi wonke umuntu kuhulumeni
owayebandakanyekile wayenomthwalo wokucubungula lokhu

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ngokucophelela futhi enze iziphetho ezifanele.

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Abazange bayenze. Kwaqhubeka kanjalo.

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Ukugoma kwakungu... lokho kwakuyinkomfa
yezindaba eyayibanjwe yiPaul Ehrlich Institute:

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UNkk Keller-Stanislavski wayesethi ekupheleni kukaJanuwari ukuthi
kwakusele sekube nokufa kwabantu abayishumi kuze kube manje.

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Hawu, manje sekukhona ukufa okusha okunye. Lesi yisitatimende
esivela ekhomitini locwaningo lwe-coronavirus eBrandenburg.

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Kodwa kubi kakhulu kunalokho. Septhemba
2021: Izibalo ezivela ku-RKI – umthombo.

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Ngingakwazi ukusekela konke engikushoyo.

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Idathabheyisi yokuqala ye-Paul
Ehrlich Institute, eyavalwa kamuva.

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Kuphindwe kangaki ukufa? Akuyona ukwanda kokufa
ngo-10%, akuyona ngo-20% – kodwa ngokuphindwe ngu-50!

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Kufanele babe bemisa ngokushesha, ngokushesha!

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Kodwa ngandlela thile kwahoxiswa ngaphansi kwetafula –
noma ngaphansi kwekhaphethi – noma yikuphi okukhethayo.

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Imiphumela emibi enzima! Izincwadi
ezahlukahlukene njengemithombo, ezibuyekezwe ngontanga

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, cishe amaphesenti amahlanu kwabathintekile!

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Masibale ukuthi bangaki eJalimane.

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Sikhuluma ngesibalo esiphakathi kwezigidi eziyisodwa kuya
kwezimbili kuya kwezintathu, kuye ngokuthi ubala kanjani –

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noma ngabe ubala ngedosi ngayinye noma ngomuntu ngamunye.

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Manje sesiqhubekela phambili.
Ungakubona lokho nganoma iyiphi indlela?

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Ukukhubazeka: Akukho idatha ethembekile
etholakalayo eJalimane. Nokho, idatha iyatholakala eNgilandi.

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Kuhambelana ngokuphelele nesikhathi sokugonywa
noma ukuqala kokugonywa – uma ungakubiza kanjalo –

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inani lezimangalo zokukhubazeka ezamukelwe lenyuke.

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Ukuhambisana okuphelele . Futhi kubalulekile
kakhulu. Futhi lokhu kuyiqiniso naseJalimane, vele.

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Isibonakaliso esilandelayo: Muva nje, kwenziwe isicelo kuhulumeni
ngowesifazane ogama lakhe uTatti ovela e-BSW noma e-Left Party:

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Kube nemibiko emingaki eyengeziwe yemiphumela
engemihle uma kuqhathaniswa nokugoma okuvamile?

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Isici 20, 21 ngokunembile. Isici 21.

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Bengivele ngishicilele into efanayo
ngoSepthemba 2021, ngiyimenyezelela obala.

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Ngakho-ke labo abaphethe kumele babe sebazi konke lokhu.

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Futhi okuyinhloko, vele, manje sekuyisipiliyoni somuntu siqu.

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Ngaba nenhlanhla yokuba ngufakazi ochwepheshe
ekuhlolweni okuthiwa kwezinkulunyane ngoJuni nangoJulayi 2022

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eLeipzig phambi kweNkantolo Yezokuphatha Kazwelonke.

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Phakathi kwezinye izinto, sabuza umuntu ophethe ukuvuma ukugonywa,
okungukuthi ukulawula izinga, njengoba kungathiwa: "Ungabona

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izinto ngaphansi kwemayikroskophu – wake wazibuka yini?"

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Impendulo ithi: "Uma ingeyona incwadi
ebuyekezwe ngontanga, anginandaba nayo."

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Futhi ngithi lokho kuwukwenqaba ukusebenza.

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Lo muntu wayezophoqeleka ukulandela imininingwane
enjalo. Kufaka phakathi yonke eminye imininingwane.

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Bahlile ukuphenya ukuthi imfucumfucu yavela kuphi – okwabe
sekushicilelwa futhi ukuthi kwakukhona

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imfucumfucu, imfucumfucu yemvelo, njengoba umlingani wami
esanda kuchaza. "Cha, asinandaba nakho konke lokho."

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Bengimbuza imibuzo ehlukahlukene mayelana
nokuthi umuntu angavame ukwenzani esimweni esinjalo.

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Banqabe konke. "Cha, asidingi ukwenza lokho,
asivunyelwe ukwenza lokho, asinasibopho salokho."

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Ngakho-ke isiphetho sami, engasho kamuva obala, isiphetho sami
kulesi sipiliyoni, njengoba ngiyifakazi lanamuhla ngiyabonga,

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ukuthi iPaul Ehrlich Institute yayingakwazi
nhlobo ukuhlola ingozi noma ukuphepha kwalawa meji,

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ngoba bona… lokho kwakuwukungavumi ukusebenza.

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Impela, kumele ube sobala kangaka.

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Futhi wonke umuntu wayekwazi lokho, bonke ababephethe
umthwalo wemfanelo. Futhi kwakukhona nokwephulwa kwemithetho.

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Uma ufuna ukufunda ngakho, hhayi isiphetho sami, kodwa isiphetho
sekhomishini yochwepheshe ngokweSigaba 5(9) soMthetho Wokuvikela

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Ekuthelelekeni, eyayihlanganisa uProfesa Kingreen
waseRegensburg, isibonelo, yafinyelela esiphethweni

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sokuthi bekukhona ukwephulwa okukhulu koMthetho Osekelayo:

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Akufakwanga, isibonelo, ukuthi leli breki likazwelonke
likhuphukayo; isibonelo, ukuthi le nto engachazeki...

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itafula eliyindilinga likachansela... ayamukeleki!

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Futhi-ke – okubi kakhulu, ngokuthi – ukuthi uMnu Spahn, kamuva
uMnu Lauterbach, bonke babekwazi lokhu, futhi lokhu nakho

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kuwumphumela wami wokugcina, ukuthi bangakwazi ukumiswa koMthetho
Osisisekelo, bedlula iPhalamende – lokho akwamukeleki nhlobo!

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Ngakho ake ngifingqe: bonke abasemagunyeni, futhi
konke lokhu kungafakazeka, babesazi kusukela

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ekuqaleni ukuthi konke bekungalungile ngokuphelele.

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Futhi lapha ngizokuphawula ngalokho uRainer Füllmich ayelokhu
ekubiza ngokuthi: umonakalo owenziwe ngenhloso, ongenamgomo.

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Yilokho nje. Futhi, vele, lokhu kumele kuphathwe ngokomthetho.

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Futhi umlingani wami othandekayo oseduze kwami
ngokuqinisekile uzoba nokuthile angakusho ngalokho.

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Akulula ngempela njengoba kuzwakala.

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Kodwa kunobufakazi obanele bokuthi abantu abathandekayo
ababephethe lapho bonke bahlulekile ngokudabukisayo.

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Futhi ngithi kuzoba nokwenzeka
ngisho nokufakazela ukuthi babenhloso.

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Ngiyabonga!