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Ukuthandwa kwemidiya enye yeyona inkulu kakhulu.

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Oku akungathanga ngqondo kwaphela, kodwa kusekelwe kwinyaniso
yokuba abantu abaninzi ngakumbi bayeva ngathi

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abaxoxelwa ngokwaneleyo ngamajelo eendaba
aphambili, kwaye baye bade bave ngathi bayaxokiswa.

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Umba wonxibelelwano lweeselula ubonisa kakuhle ukuba amajelo
eendaba aphambili ayililahle kangakanani na

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indima yawo njengamandla alawulayo kuluntu, aze
abe sisandla esandisiweyo sezibhange ezinkulu.

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Qwalasela indlela amajelo eendaba aphambili abexela
ngayo ngokugxeka kakhulu ngonxibelelwano lweselula

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kunye neentsika zosasazo ekuqaleni kweminyaka yoo-1990:

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Xa umabonakude wawusavunyelwe ukuthetha
inyaniso... Umbhali-mbhali: Zisisikelelo sokwenene

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kubo bonke abasebenzisi befowuni ephathwayo.

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Zi-6,000 zazo eJamani. Sithetha ngeemasti zomnxeba.

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Zifakelwa ukuvala iindawo ezingasebenziyo.

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Kwi-Mainz-Bischofsheim, nangona
kunjalo, benza ilali yonke ibe yimpumputhe.

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Ukusukela oko kwakhiwa umqulu wezunxibelelwano
apho, abahlali balapha bebesoloko bekhalaza

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ngokungakwazi kulala ebusuku neentloko ezibuhlungu kakhulu.

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Umbalisi: Ubomi bemihla ngemihla bukaSiggi
Ebenhoch. Useluhendleleni esiya kwisela yakhe.

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Kulapho ke ubomi bakhe bonke ngoku budlala khona,
evalelwe kwiimitha ezimbalwa zesikwere, okwentsongo.

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Kuphela apha, ngasemva kweendonga
ezityebileyo, uEbenhoch asekhuselekile.

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Naxa ilanga lityhila ngaphandle, akathandi
kungena kwicala elingaphezulu lendlu yakhe.

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Siggi Ebenhoch: Ukusukela oko silele
kwigumbi elingaphantsi komhlaba, siqaphele

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ukuba silala ngcono. Kodwa ayonto ingako leyo.

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Sithenga indlu enkulu, sizibandakanye size
sibhujiswe ngokupheleleyo njengemfazwe, kodwa

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kungekho ngebhomu, koko kungenxa yeradiyeshini.

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Isithethi: Intsilelo ikule mast yosasazo,
ekumgama ongaphantsi kweemitha ezili-100.

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Imitha ekhutshwa yimasti
iyatshabalalisa ubomi bukaSiggi Ebenhoch.

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Amaxabiso angaphandle aphezulu ngamawaka amaxesha kunomyinge.

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USiggi Ebenhoch wayiqinisekisa le nto
kwaye ngoku ude uyazivavanya ngokwakhe.

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Ngokwahlukileyo, amaqondo obushushu
kwisela phantsi aphantse abe yimvakwaso.

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Yiyo yodwa indawo ekukhusela kwitoweri.

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Kodwa uSiggi Ebenhoch akanakusoloko ezimela kwisele lakhe.

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Umlungisi weenwele oyintloko uqhuba isaluni yokulungisa
iinwele kumgangatho ongentla kunye nenkosikazi yakhe.

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Kodwa unako ukumelana nayo apho iiyure nje ezimbalwa.

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Emva koko kuvela iimpawu, intloko ebuhlungu
kakhulu – ethomalaliswa kuphela ngamayeza.

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Siggi Ebenhoch: Ndiyaqaphela ukuba xa
ndinyuka, intloko yam ibhabha iye kude.

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Kwaye ngenxa yokuba sele uphantsi
koxinzelelo, uyayiva ngokukhawuleza kakhulu.

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Umntu ongakhange axinezeleke usenokuqhushumba;
kuthatha nje ixesha phambi kokuba akwazi oko.

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Isithethi: Kodwa asizozona abantu kuphela
abasentlungwini; nezinja zasekhaya nazo zineengxaki.

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Nkosikazi Ebenhoch: Asingabo kuphela abasokola ngentloko
ebuhlungu nokuphazamiseka kwokulala okungapheliyo,

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kodwa noHenry wethu apha uchaphazeleke kakhulu, ebesiya
esoyika kwaye etshabalala izihlandlo ezininzi ngeveki.

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Isithethi: USiggi Ebenhoch sele enenyanga ezininzi
etyhala ukuba isakhiwo se-high-frequency sidilizwe.

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Utyhola imitha ye-electromagnetic ngenxa yentlungu yakhe.

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Uthi nkqu nomvelisi uyalumkisa ngemitha, kwaye ngenxa
yoko ucebisa ukuba ezi nkqubo zifakwe kude nabantu.

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Kulungile kanye, kuba kwanentswala azinakusinda kanye kufutshane.

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Iimpukane ezifileyo zilele zizimfumba kanye ecaleni
komthombo, zitshile ngaphakathi ngenxa ye-radiation.

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Noko ke, iDeutsche Telekom, umqhubi wesi sikhululo, ayivumelani
nokuba imast yeetsala-manqaku yiyo ebangela iingxaki zempilo.

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Ulrich Lissek, Telekom: Ngokwemo yangoku yophando lwezonyango,
asinakufumanisa naluphi na unxulumano phakathi

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kweemvamisa zefowuni ephathwayo kunye naluphi na uhlobo
lokungonwabi okanye ukukhubazeka komzimba phakathi kwabahlali.

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Oku kungqiniwe ngokwenzululwazi kwihlabathi jikelele.

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Isithethi: Oko akuyonyaniso ngokupheleleyo.

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Usosayensi uNjingalwazi uPeter Sem wenze uphando
olubanzi malunga nokukhanya kwe-electromagnetic.

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Ngokweziphumo zakhe, ngokuqinisekileyo kukho umngcipheko.

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NguProfesa uPeter Sem, ingcali ye-electrosmog: Iinkalo
ze-electromagnetic ezibizwa ngokuba zii-pulsed zivela kwiimasti

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zothumelo ezinjalo. Ezi, ke, kungqiniwe ukuba zibangela utshintsho
kwiinkqubo zebhayoloji, kuquka iingqondo zezilwanyana nabantu.

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Khawufan' ucinge ukuba ujonga umntu, uze
ujike, kodwa awukwazi ukuyisusa imifanekiso yaloo

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mntu engqondweni yakho, nangona sele ujikile.

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Iinkalo ze-electromagnetic zinokuba nefuthe
elifanayo; zihlala zisebenza nasemva kokuba inkuthazo

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yokwenene icinyiwe, kangange-isiqingatha seyure emva koko.

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Isithethi: Kodwa kungakhathaliseki
kwezonxibelelwano nesayensi, impikiswano phakathi

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kweengcali ayincedi kangako kuSiggi Ebenhoch.

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Ube buhlungu ukusukela oko kwamiswa isibane
esiphambili phambi kwendlu yakhe, kwaye akayedwa.

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Siggi Ebenhoch: Ekuqaleni, bendicinga ukuba ndilwa idabi
lokuphelela, kuba kunzima kakhulu, ewe, ukwenza

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abantu baqonde ingozi ongenakuyiva ngeevumba okanye
ungayiboni kwaye unokucinga ukuba ayiyonto kwaphela.

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Isithethi: Ngoku, lonke uluntu lusexwayeni.

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Akukho mntu ufuna ipali yomnxeba.

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Passant: Ndineengxaki zokulala ezimandundu
kakhulu. Maxa wambi ndivuka ebusuku,

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ndiphaphile kraca kwaye andikwazi ukuphinda ndilale.

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Abadlulayo: Ukusukela oko kwakhiwa intaba-ntsalela,
besiba neentloko ezibuhlungu ngakumbi, sinobunzima bokulala

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kwaye sikhathazeke kakhulu ngomntwana wethu omncinci...

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Isithethi: Abaqhankqalazi
abangamaqabane kaSiggi Ebenhoch bamkhuthaza.

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Akafuni kunikezela kwaye uza kusebenzisa zonke
iindlela zomthetho ukuze aqhubeke elwela ukudilizwa kwe...

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Kwimihla yokuqala yobuchwepheshe befowuni ephathwayo (1G),
kwakusele kucacile ukuba obu buchwepheshe, kunye

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nee-mast zayo zefowuni eziyi-6,000, buza kuba
neziphumo ezibi kwimpilo yabantu nakwindalo esingqongileyo.

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Ngaphandle koku, itekhnoloji yefowuni ephathwayo yatyhalelwa
phambili kakhulu yaza yaphuhliswa ngakumbi,

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nto leyo ebonisa ukungazi nokukhathaleli
okukhulu kwizikhalazo neenkxalabo ebezivusiwe.

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Ngenxa yokunyuswa kwenani leemasti zosasazo
ukusuka kuma-6,000 ukuya kuma-60,000, inethiwekhi

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ye-3G UMTS yadala iingxaki ezinkulu nangakumbi.

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Izidizeni ezininzi zezifundo
ezicacileyo nezamkelweyo zibhalile ngomonakalo.

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Ngelo xesha, amajelo eendaba aphambili nawo
anika ingxelo egxekayo ngale nto, ngaloo ndlela

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esebenzela iimfuno zabantu kunye nokusingqongileyo.

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Ngaphandle kweengozi zempilo – ukwaziswa
kwe-UMTS (3G) Unxibelelwano lweeselula luphakathi

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kwemeko enobungozi – ingozi kangakanani imitha?

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Yayiyeyona nto inkulu kaHans Eichel. Nkqu nomdlalo wakhe wepoker
malunga nenguqulelo yerhafu awunanto xa uthelekiswa nayo.

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I-auction yee-layisensi ze-UMTS yazisa phantse i-100
leebhiliyoni zeemarcs kwingxowa-mali karhulumente womdibaniso

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– into onokuyiphupha kuphela ngayo umphathiswa wezemali.

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Kodwa yintoni elinye icala lesenti?

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Ukuze i-UMTS isebenze kakuhle eJamani, inethiwekhi yeselula
kufuneka idityaniswe kakhulu ngakumbi kunale ikhoyo namhlanje.

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Iingcali zilindele iimasti ezintsha zosasazo
ezingama-60,000, ezininzi kuzo zikwiindawo zokuhlala.

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Iingcali azivumelani malunga nokuba ingozi kangakanani
imitha evela kwezi zidluliseli ebantwini nakwizilwanyana.

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Amagalelo nguSebastian Bösel noWolfgang Huhn:

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I-Champagne yokubhiyozela isivumelwano
see-bhiliyoni zeeponti, ekupheleni kweveki ephelileyo eMainz.

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Kangangeeveki eziphantse zibe zintathu,
ababoneleli beenkonzo zefowuni ephathwayo bebesenza

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ibhidi ngeelayisensi ezixabisekileyo ze-UMTS.

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Ekugqibeleni, isibonelelo esipheleleyo
seefrikhwensi sibe zii-marks eziyi-98.8 zeebhiliyoni.

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"Sivuya kakhulu ukukwazi ukuthatha inxaxheba
kwi-e-plus nokudlala indima ebaluleke kakhulu kwimarike."

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"Ndiziva kamnandi kuba kudala
sisebenzela oku kwaye sizilungiselele kakuhle.

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Ngoku siwufikelele usukelo lwethu, siyifumene ilayisensi, kwaye
kungekudala siza kuqala ukusebenza ukunika abathengi inkonzo.

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Ecaleni kwefandesi, abemi aboyikayo
itekhnoloji entsha baqhuba umboniso.

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Boyika ukuchanabeka ngakumbi kwimitha ye-UMTS.

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Oku kungenxa yokuba ababoneleli kufuneka bakhe inethiwekhi
entsha kraca yesizukulwana esitsha sonxibelelwano lweeselula.

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"Abancedisi beenethiwekhi zeselula abakhoyo
kuza kufuneka badibanise iinethiwekhi zabo.

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Abasebenzisi abatsha benethiwekhi baya kwakha iinethiwekhi
ezintsha, kwaye silindele ukuba kuya kufuneka ii-antena ezintsha

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ezifikelela kuma-60,000 exesheni elide ukuqinisekisa ukuba
kukho ukufikelela okulungileyo kwe-UMTS kulo lonke elaseJamani.

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60,000 ii-antena ezintsha zenkqubo entsha!

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Kwabanye, sele bekhona kakhulu.

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Inyathelo labemi eKassel. Indawo yentlanganiso: iparishi yecawa.

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Asikokholo okubadibanisayo, koko
kukoyika isigcina-maza sefowuni esiphathwayo.

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I-antenna sele ikho kwindawo yakho kangangeeveki ezininzi ngoku.

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"Emva kwayo yonke inkcazelo esiyiqokeleleyo kweli xesha
lifutshane, andinakunceda kodwa ndicinga ukuba kuyingozi."

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Kuyingozi, ndinomntwana omncinci oneminyaka emihlanu
ubudala, andifuni kumenezelisa umntwana wam kule mithi.

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uqhankqalazela iintena kwilizwe lonke.

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Kodwa ingaba iirheyi ziyingozi ngokwenene?

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Ngokwekwazi kwenzululwazi langoku, iingozi zempilo zinokuphetshwa
ukuba imida ecetyiswayo kuzwelonke nakumazwe ngamazwe

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iyahoywa – kwaye le mida inika inqanaba eliphezulu lokhuseleko.

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Ayiyonyani loo nto, utsho uJosef
Altenweger, umfama waseSchnaitsee, eBavaria.

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Kanye ecaleni kwefama yakhe, kukho imasti yetransmission.

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Ekuqaleni kweminyaka yoo-1990, yafakwa
izixhobo zonxibelelwano eziphathwayo.

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Ukongeza, kwongezwa enye imasti yefowuni ephathwayo.

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Ukusukela ngoko, umfama u-Altenweger kunye nabamelwane bakhe
bekhalaza ngeentloko ezibuhlungu kunye neengxaki zokulala.

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Ungathi yintelekelelo nje yonke le nto, kodwa ke zikho iinkomo:

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Malunga nonyaka ka-1993, ndaqaphela okokuqala kwizitali
ukuba izilwanyana azisaziphathi ngendlela ebeqhele ngayo.

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Ndathi ke, kumele ukuba kukho into eqhubekayo.

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Ngenxa yokuba imveliso yobisi yayihle inciphe kwaye nokuzala
kwenkomo kwakungasajwayelekanga – kwakukho

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ukulahlekelwa ziintsana kunye neengxaki ezininzi zokuzalwa –
ndaza ndathi kufuneka ndiyixele kuligqirha wezilwanyana.

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Ugqirha wezilwanyana osemthethweni uhlola
isitali, izilwanyana kunye nokutya kwazo.

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Akufumani nto inokuchaza ukulahlekelwa kukhula,
ukuzalwa neziphene kunye neziphazamiso zokuziphatha.

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Uruqikelela unxulumano nokukhanya
okukhutshwa ziifowuni eziphathwayo.

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Ugqirha wezilwanyana osemthethweni ushicilela
iividiyo zokuphazamiseka kwindlela yokuziphatha.

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UNjingalwazi Wolfgang Löscher waseYunivesithi
yezoNyango lweZilwanyana eHanover uhlalutya aze

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apapashe izinto ezingaqhelekanga ezifunyenwe eSchnaitsee.

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Abalimi abavela kulo lonke
elaseJamani ke bayeza nangeemeko ezifanayo.

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"Ukuze olu qapheleko lokuqala lwathiqinisekiswa
ngokwenene ziingqwalasela kwezinye iinkampani.

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Kwaye apha, kukho unxulumano olomeleleyo lwexesha phakathi
kokufakwa kweemasti zefowuni eziphathwayo

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kunye nokuqala kokuphazamiseka kwezi
zishishini, ezingathi ngaphandle koko zisempilweni.

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ESchnaitsee, i-Ofisi yeNgingqi yoKhuselo
lweMitha ithatha imilinganiselo kwaye inika imvume.

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Imitha ikwinqanaba eliphantsi kakhulu kunemida, ngoko ke akukho
nxulumano phakathi kwesikhululo seselfowuni neenkomo ezigulayo.

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Njengoko amanani ephantsi ngokuphindwe i-100
okanye i-1,000 ngaphantsi kwemida, asibonanga sizathu

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sokuqhubeka nokukhangela unxulumano olubangayo apha.

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Kodwa imida esetyenziswa yi-Ofisi yeFederal ayinamsebenzi.

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Le yinto ethethwa ziingcali ezininzi ngakumbi nangakumbi, kuquka
ingcali yobuchwepheshe bokulinganisa uNjingalwazi Günter Käs.

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"Imida yethu yangoku ayonelanga kwaphela
kuba isekelwe kuphela kwiziphumo zokushisa.

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Oku kuthetha ukuba kuyazanywa
ukuthintela izicwili ukuba zingatshisi kakhulu.

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Zonke ezinye iziphumo zebhayoloji ezingahambelaniyo neziphumo
zokushisa nezenzeka kumaqondo aphantsi kakhulu ziyahoywa.

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Uqinisekiso kwiiveki ezintathu ezidlulileyo eSalzburg,
kwinkomfa yamazwe ngamazwe yonxibelelwano lweeselula:

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izifundo ezingaphezu kwama-40 zibonelela ngobungqina.

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Imitha yefowuni ephathwayo inokuba nefuthe
nakubume obungaphantsi kakhulu kwemida ekhoyo.

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Kuvavanyo, kwenzeka umonakalo kwingqondo
yezilwanyana, i-DNA, oko kukuthi utshintsho lwemfuza

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kwiiseli zomntu, ukukhula kwezibungu nomhlaza kwiimpuku.

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Inkomfa ibongoza ukuncitshiswa
okukhulu kwenani elibekiweyo kwisigqibo.

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Isigqibo siphinde satyikitywa nguMbutho woNyango waseJamani.

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Isigqibo sabo esivela kuphando olukhoyo:

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ukuba sityhalela ukuncitshiswa okukhulu kwenani elimiselweyo
njengenyathelo lokuthintela, ngenxa yempilo yoluntu.

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"Akukho kukhathalela na kwe-Ofisi yeFederal
yoKhuselo lweRadiation ukunamathela kwimida ekhoyo ngoku?"

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Ndicinga ukuba yinto engakhathalelwanga, ewe, ukuba uyayigcina.

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Kwaye siyabacenga ukuba bajonge nzulu iziphumo
zenzululwazi – kwaye kufuneka kugxininiswe apha

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ukuba ezi ziziphumo zenzululwazi ezithembekileyo."

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Kwaye kungaphelelanga apho.

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Ifayile yaseSchnaitsee, ebiyiqhankqalaziswe
ngabasemagunyeni bakarhulumente abakhusela kwimitha,

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kusenokwenzeka ukuba kuya kufuneka ivulwe kwakhona.

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Uphando olusandula ukugqitywa lunolwazi oluqhushumbisayo.

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ziyafana nezo zoxinzelelo olungapheliyo.

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Le nkqubo yowama-2018 engomxholo wonxibelelwano lwe-5G lweeselula
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kakhulu kwindima yawo yokuba ngumjongi oqaphelayo. Akusekho
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isibhengezo sezigcayiselo ezitsha zosasazo ezingama-800,000
eziza kwakhiwa nokuvalwa kwazo zonke iindawo ezingenantlobo,

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ngokungathi le yeyona nto iqhelekileyo ehlabathini:

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Ividiyo yeYouTube "I-5G ifuna izisasazo eziyi-800,000"
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kumgangatho omtsha wonxibelelwano lweeselula we-5G.

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Ekupheleni kuka-2022, ubuncinane i-98% yazo
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ukufikelela kwi-intanethi enesantya esiphezulu.

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U-Achim Berg, uMongameli wombutho woshishino i-Bitkom:
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ukuze sinike iJamani ugqumo olupheleleyo lwe-5G.

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Ngaphandle kweenkxalabo zokuqala, injongo yokwandiswa ngokubanzi
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kuxeliwe yi-ZDF namhlanje, umhla we-11 kweyoMsintsi
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ukuba inethiwekhi elungileyo iyafumaneka kuko konke ilizwe.

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Ngomhla wama-27 kuNovemba 2024, iHandelsblatt ide
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iza kusetyenziswa ukuphelisa iindawo ezingenamkrozo.

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Kufuneka kuqatshelwe ukuba nayiphi na intshikilelo malunga
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IKla.tv ibisoloko ingxela ngale nto ukusukela ekusungulweni
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Ngaba iyamangalisa into yokuba abantu abaninzi ngakumbi bejikela
kwiindlela ezahlukileyo zemidiya ukuze bafumane iinkcukacha

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kwaye abasavumelanga ukuhlawula imirhumo yabo enyanzelekileyo
kwiinkonzo zeminikelo, iSerafe nezinye ezifana nayo?
