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Ndị mmadụ, ndị nwere mkpuchi ahụike na ndị
ọrịa kwesịrị ịma na nlekọta ọgwụ na Germany

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kwụsịrị kpamkpam gbasara mgbochi ọrịa ndị a.

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Ya mere, ọ bụ ọchịchị gọọmenti dị elu nke doro anya na ọ
na-agbaso atụmatụ ahụ: a gaghị ekwe ka ire ọgwụ mgbochi kwụsị.

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Onye isi gara aga nke ngalaba nchekwa ọgwụ na Paul Ehrlich
Institute, Dọkịta Keller-Stanislawski, kwetara n'ihu kọmitii

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nyocha Brandenburg na Septemba 2023 na ọchịchị German
kpamkpam juru n'ọrụ idekọ ọtụtụ mmetụta ndị ọzọ nke mgbochi ahụ.

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Kla.TV kọrọ . Otú ọ dị, a na-enyo Paul Ehrlich
Institute na ọ naghị emezu ọrụ ya n'ịchọpụta na idekọ mmebi

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ọgwụ mgbochi n'ogo achọrọ kemgbe tupu ọrịa coronavirus.

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Dọkịta Klaus Hartmann, onye rụrụ afọ iri na Paul Ehrlich
Institute na Ngalaba Nchekwa Ọgwụ, hapụrụ ụlọ ọrụ ahụ n'ihi na ọ

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hụrụ otú ha si emeghachi omume n'ụzọ na-ezighị ezi nke ukwuu ma
mechara oge mgbe a tụrụ ụjọ na ọgwụ mgbochi

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ugboro isii na-akpata mmụba n'ọnụọgụ ikpe
nke a na-akpọ 'sudden infant death syndrome'.

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N'oge ahụ, ọtụtụ ụmụaka nwụrụ mgbe ha dị ọnwa
abụọ – kpọmkwem afọ e nyere ha mgbochi ọrịa izizi.

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Nnyocha e mere iji nyochaa njikọ a nwetara nnukwu ego
nkwado site n'aka ndị na-emepụta mgbochi ọrịa ndị

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kpatara ọnwụ ndị ahụ site na mgbochi ha nke isii n'otu.

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Ya mere, ọmụmụ ahụ achọpụtaghị njikọ ọ bụla.

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Onye na-enyocha mgbochi ọrịa na onye edemede Wolfram Klingele,
onye nyochara ọmụmụ a nke ọma, na-ekwu na e gbanwere data

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kemgbe mmalite ma gbakwụnye ihe ụgha ọzọ n'oge nyocha ikpeazụ.

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Na Germany, a na-edekọ mmetụta ọjọọ nke mgbochi ọrịa
site n'iji usoro akpọrọ 'usoro akpaghị aka ịkọ akụkọ'

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mgbe Paul Ehrlich Institute kwadoro mgbochi ọrịa ahụ.

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Nke a pụtara na ndị metụtara ya, ndị dọkịta na ndị na-ere
ọgwụ kwesịrị ịkọ mmeghachi omume ọjọọ nke ọgwụ nye ndị ọchịchị.

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N'ajụjụ ọnụ Michael Leitner mere na 2013, Klaus Hartmann kwuru na
e nwere ihe dị ka ọtụtụ iri afọ a maara na usoro akụkọ

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n'onwe ya a naghị arụ ọrụ – ma a ka na-eji ya n'ihi na ọ
na-enye ihe kpatara ịga n'ihu igosi na ịgba mgbochi ọrịa dị mfe.

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Ya mere o kwuru: "Ọ bụrụ na ị debeghị nsogbu ọ bụla, ị nwere ike
n'ụzọ na-atọ ọchị kwuo na enweghị nsogbu ọ

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bụla, ọ bụ ezie na ị nwere naanị ngwá ọrụ
adịghị mma iji chọpụta ma e nwere nsogbu ọ bụla."

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Nke a bụ aghụghọ nke rụrụ ọrụ nke ọma ruo ugbu a.

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Ị nwere usoro ndekọ nke n'eziokwu anaghị arụ ọrụ – ma
ị na-eto onwe gị n'ihi na mmetụta ndị ọzọ pere mpe.

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N'otu ajụjụ ọnụ ọzọ e kesara na ARD n'afọ 2018, Klaus Hartmann
kwuru na e nwere obi abụọ na-alaghachi na Paul

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Ehrlich Institute achọghị n'eziokwu ịmata ma e nwere
mmetụta ọjọọ siri ike sitere na ịgba ọgwụ mgbochi.

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"Echiche a na-apụta n'uche m n'ezie," ka Dọkịta
Sonja Reitz, onye anyị na-ajụ ajụjụ taa, kwuru.

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N'ime ajụjụ ọnụ a na-esote, nụ nyocha ya banyere
otu Paul Ehrlich Institute si elekọta ụdị ọgwụ

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mgbochi ọhụụ kpamkpam a na-akpọ "ọgwụ mgbochi corona".

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E ka mgbede dị gị mma, Dọkịta Reitz. Ị bịarutela ebe a tupu
ma gosipụtakwa nnukwu afọ ojuju na-adịghị gị na ọrụ nke

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Paul Ehrlich Institute. Gịnị ka ị ga-agwa anyị gbasara nke ahụ?

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Ee, nke a bụ okwu dị oke mkpa n'ihi na ndị bi na Germany
na-adabere na ụlọ ọrụ a, nke a tụrụ ya ka ọ bụrụ onye

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nchebe nchekwa ọgwụ, ma ọ na-ahụkwa maka nkwado
mgbochi ọrịa na nlekọta nchekwa nke ọgwụ na mgbochi ọrịa.

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Ee, ọ na-atọ ụtọ karịsịa ebe a n'ihi mgbochi
ọrịa coronavirus ọhụrụ anyị kpọpụtara ugbu a.

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Ma ugbu a, n'afọ 2021, anyị emeela nke a,
ka anyị sị, nnukwu mgbasa ọgwụ mgbochi.

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Ekwere m na e nyere ọgwụ 130 nde n'afọ 2021.

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Nke a pụtara na ọtụtụ mmadụ enwetala mgbochi ugboro abụọ, na
ụfọdụ enwetala ya ugboro atọ. Ruo taa, a enyeela dose nde 192.

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Ugbu a, a kwadoro mgbochi ọrịa a site na EMA, Ụlọ
Ọrụ Ọgwụ Europe, nke PEI na-arụkọ ọrụ ọnụ nke ọma.

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Otú ọ dị, PEI nwere ọrụ nlekọta nchekwa ọgwụ na Germany.

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Ihe anyị na-achọpụta ugbu a bụ na Ụlọ Ọrụ Paul Ehrlich
emeghị nyochaa ọtụtụ ihe ngosi gbasara ize ndụ nke ihe ndị a.

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E nwere ihe ngosi sitere n'aka ndị prọfesọ na ihe ndị a
nwere mmetọ, ma mmetọ ndị a pụrụ ịhụ anya na mmetọ ndị a

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na-ahụ naanị n'okpuru mikroskọpụ, yana ihe àmà na nkwenye.

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Ma PEI kwuru na ha anaghị enwe mmasị na nke a, na ha na-adabere na
ozi sitere n'aka onye na-emepụta ma anaghị enyocha ya onwe ha.

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E nwere ọtụtụ ìgwè ndị prọfesọ. Amaara m na Prọfesọ
Burkhardt dere akwụkwọ ozi na Paul Ehrlich Institute na Machị

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21 na e nwere mmetọ, na e nwere obi abụọ gbasara mmetọ.

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Ụlọ Ọrụ Paul Ehrlich jụrụ ya ma mee ka ọ ghara ime ihe ọ bụla.

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Mgbe ahụ, ndị prọfesọ ndị ọzọ hụrụ na ngwọta
mgbochi ọrịa ndị a nwere agba dị iche iche nke ukwuu.

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Ha dere na ebe ahụ, e gosipụtara ya na
Berliner Zeitung ma ọ bụ otu edemede pụtara.

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Ụlọ Ọrụ Paul Ehrlich natara akwụkwọ ozi a ma
emeghị ihe ọ bụla, e chetara ya, ma emeghị ihe ọ bụla.

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Ma ọ naghị eme nnyocha ọ bụla ma ọ bụ nlele ọ bụla.

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Ha chọrọ ịhụ ọmụmụ e bipụtara nke ndị ọkachamara
nyochara kama ikwu na nke a bụ obi abụọ dị oke njọ, karịsịa

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ebe ọ bụ na a na-enyocha ihe ndị a niile nke ọma pere mpe.

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Ihe e mepụtara maka ojiji buru ibu dị
kpamkpam iche na nke eji na ọmụmụ nkwenye.

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Nke a bụ ihe kpatara Paul Ehrlich Institute ji
kwesịrị ime mgbalị iji nyochaa mmetụta ndị ọzọ nke ọma.

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Ụmụ mmadụ asatọ nwụrụ n'abalị nke ntinye ọgwụ
mbụ n'oge nnwale nkwenye, nke ọtụtụ mmadụ amaghị

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n'ihi na a naghị ekwupụta ha n'ime nnwale ahụ.

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Ị nwekwara ike ịkpọ nke a imegide.

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Ha tinyere naanị ndị ọrịa ndị natara
mgbochi nke abụọ, wee mee nnyocha ha.

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Ya mere, ihe karịrị mmadụ 1,200 ka efu; ha
enwetaghị ọgwụ mgbochi nke abụọ. Asatọ nwụrụ anwụ.

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Ya mere, achọrọ m ikwu na, mgbe ha matara ozi a –
Paul Ehrlich Institute maara ihe ndị a – ha

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kwesịrị ịmalite ozugbo usoro nlekọta kpamkpam dị iche.

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Anyị kwesịrị ileba anya nke ọma n'omume
ọgwụ: kedu ka ọrịa si agbanwe n'omume?

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Kedu ole mmetụta ndị ọzọ na-apụta? Site n'ịjụ ajụjụ n'ụzọ ọrụ.

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Ya mere, ọ bụghị site n'ịlele n'amaghị ama
onye na-akọ ihe, kama site n'ịjụ ajụjụ n'ụzọ ọrụ.

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Ma ihe ọzọ bụ na ha n'eziokwu mere ụdị imegharị
data mgbe ha wepụrụ ndị a asatọ n'ime ọmụmụ nkwenye.

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Ọ bụghị Institut Paul Ehrlich, kama ọ bụ
Pfizer ozugbo, ya bụ ndị na-emepụta ya.

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Ma ụlọ ọrụ na-emepụta ya, Pfizer, ama ama maka nke a; a kpọrọ
ya n'ụlọikpe ugboro atọ na Amerịka, a kwụrụ ọtụtụ ijeri

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dollar n'ụgwọ nkwụghachi maka imegide iwu n'ime nnyocha nkwenye.

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Ya mere, mgbe anyị na-ede nkwekọrịta na Pfizer, anyị anaghị
eme ya na ụlọ ọrụ amaghị ama nke nwere aha ọma, kama anyị

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na-eme ya na ụlọ ọrụ e kpebiela ikpe ọtụtụ ugboro maka mpụ.

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Nke a na-eme ka ọ dịkwuo mkpa ileba anya nke ọma na teknụzụ
ọhụrụ nke na-ekwe nkwa uru ruru ijeri abụọ – nke, n'ikpeazụ, ndị

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ndọrọndọrọ ọchịchị kwụrụ ya – ma na-ewetakwa nnukwu ihe ize ndụ.

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Nwanyị Keller-Stanislawski si na Paul Ehrlich Institute kọrọ
na e nwere ọnwụ karịrị iri a na-enyo enyo na 10 Jenụwarị 2021,

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naanị ụbọchị iri na anọ ka mmalite mgbalị ịgba mgbochi ọrịa.

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Ma site na June 2021 ruo taa, anyị na-ahụ nnukwu
mmụba na ọnwụ n'ọnụọgụgụ niile, nke na-aga n'ihu ịrị elu

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ma na-awụ elu ozugbo mgbe e nyere mgbochi mgbakwunye.

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Malite na mgbụsị akwụkwọ afọ 2021,
ọnụọgụ a ga-arị elu nke ukwuu ọzọ.

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Ma kemgbe ahụ ruo ngwụcha afọ 2022, anyị nwere
ihe karịrị 120,000 ọnwụ ndị ọzọ a na-apụghị ịkọwa.

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120,000, nke opekata mpe – dịka anyị, òtù ndị
ọkachamara ahụike, si kpebie – karịrị 100,000 ga-akọ na

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mgbochi ọrịa, n'ihi na anyị enweghị nkọwa ọzọ maka ya.

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Ma n'ọnọdụ dị otú a – ọnụọgụ ndị a bụ ọnụọgụ Destatis , ọnụọgụ
ọha – Paul Ehrlich Institute, RKI, onye ọ bụla kwesịrị

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ikwu na anyị ga-eleba anya ozugbo na ihe na-eme ma soro
ozi ọ bụla nwere ike ikwenye ma ọ bụ kwado obi abụọ ahụ.

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Ma n'eziokwu, ihe megidere ya kpamkpam na-eme.

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A na-eme ka ndị mmadụ nwee obi ike, a na-ebelata
mkpa ọnọdụ ahụ, a na-ekwu na mgbanwe ihu igwe ka

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na-akpata ọnwụ ndị a, ọ bụ ezie na enweghi oke ọkụ.

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Ya mere, anyị chọtara onwe anyị n'ọnọdụ jọgburu onwe ya.

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Ọnọdụ ahụ dịkwa obi abụọ n'ihi na minista ahụike
anyị n'eziokwu maara nke ọma ihe na-eme ebe ahụ.

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Ma o naghị abawanye ego maka ikike a.

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Na ọ gara n'ihu na-eji ndị mmadụ iri na otu rụọ ọrụ
ebe ahụ ma ọ bụghịkwa ịkpọ ndị ọzọ ka ha lekọta ọtụtụ

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akụkọ gbasara mmetụta ndị na-esonyere ọgwụ na ọnwụ.

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Ihe ahụ ahụ mere na EMA, ebe data
abawanyela nke ukwuu ma ha enweghị ike iso ya.

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Enweghị nnyocha gbasara ihe n'eziokwu na-eme.

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Ma ọtụtụ mgbe, ị naghị enwetaghị nkwenye na
ị kọrọ mmetụta ọjọọ nke mgbochi ahụ ebe ahụ.

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Nke ahụ pụtara na e nwere obi abụọ na ị n'ezie
achọghị ịmata ihe n'eziokwu na-eme site na mgbochi ọrịa a.

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Ee, echiche ahụ nwere ike ịbata
n'uche gị. Anaghị m enwe ike ịjụ ya kwa.

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Ọfọn, enweghị m ike ịkwado ya, enweghị m ike
igosi ya, ma ọ fọrọ nke nta ka ọ na-ele m anya n'ihu.

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Ọ bụrụ na ị nwetara nzaghachi nye ajụjụ gị nke dị ka, dịka
ọmụmaatụ, na e hụrụ ya na Denmark, America na Germany n'ụlọ ọrụ

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iwu na-anọchite anya ọtụtụ mmadụ ndị merụrụ ahụ site na
mgbochi ọrịa, na pasentị iri na ise nke ngwugwu ọgwụ ahụ

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kpatara pasentị iri iteghete na ise nke mmetụta ọjọọ siri ike.

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Nke ahụ pụtara na ngwugwu ndị ahụ dị iche.

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Ọ bụrụ na ngwugwu ahụ dị iche, a ga-ewepụ ya n'ahịa ozugbo.

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Ma mgbe arịrịọ bịara na Paul Ehrlich
Institute, gịnị ka na-eme mgbe ahụ?

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E nwere ọdịiche n'etiti ngwugwu. Ị pụrụ ịhụ ya?

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Mgbe ahụ ha na-ekwu na anyị enweghị ike ijikọ nọmba ngwugwu na
mmetụta ọjọọ, ọ bụ ezie na a ga-etinye ha na

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fọm ọ bụla , ma ọ bụghị ya akwụkwọ data agaghị
arụ ọrụ ọbụla, ma e wezụga na ị bipụtara ya tupu.

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Ma ọtụtụ n'ime ya na-akọ na ịntanetị,
ya mere enweghị ụzọ isi gbanarị ya.

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Ị gaghị enwe ike ịkọ ya ma ọ bụrụ na ị bughị nọmba ngwugwu.

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N'ihe a metụtara, a pụrụ ịhụ nkwupụta
dị otú ahụ naanị dị ka nkwupụta nchebe.

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Ma mgbe ahụ ha na-ajụ: Gịnị gbasara ịlele mmetọ?

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E nwere ihe ngosi: mmetọ DNA na-akpata
kansa, mmetọ na ihe ndị ọzọ, na plasmids, niile

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na-akpata kansa, nwekwara ike ịkpata kansa.

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Mgbe ahụ, Ụlọ Ọrụ Paul Ehrlich kwuru sị:
Mba, anyị anaghị eme nnwale n'otu ebe a.

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Anyị na-adabere na ozi onye na-emepụta ihe
na-enye na ihe niile dị n'usoro na mmepụta.

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Ya mere, achọghị m nlekọta ọgwụ ọ bụla kwa. Nke ahụ bụ nzuzu.

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Ee.

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Gịnị mere anyị ji nwee nlekọta ma ọ bụrụ na
ọ na-ekwu naanị na onye na-emepụta kwuru

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ya, anyị kwenyere ihe onye na-emepụta kwuru?

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Ọ dị ịtụnanya. A na-eme nnyocha anya na Paul Ehrlich Institute.

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Nke ahụ pụtara na ị na-ele ya anya – ahụghị m mkpụrụ
ọ bụla na-efe efe – ma nke ahụ bụ nnyocha mma na-eme.

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Ọ bụ ihe eji kpuchido eziokwu. Ụlọ ọrụ a dị iji hụ na
nchekwa ọgwụ na Germany n'ime Ụlọ Ọrụ Ahụike Kasị Elu.

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Iwu ọgwụ kwuru na ọ bụrụ na ihe ọ bụla
enweghị mmetụta a kwere nkwa, a ga-ewepụ ya n'ahịa.

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Ọ bụrụ na ihe nwere mmetụta ndị ọzọ karịrị nke a kwere
nkwa, dịka e kwuru na ọmụmụ nkwenye, a ga-ewepụ ya n'ahịa.

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Ihe niile a dị ebe a.

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Ihe ọzọ nwere ike ịdị mkpa gbasara isiokwu a.

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Ụlọ Ọrụ Paul Ehrlich na-arụ ọrụ na nkwenye
ahụ. Ha maara ihe kwesịrị inye iji nweta nkwenye.

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Onye ọ bụla ga-enye asambodo nchekwa nke na-ekwupụta
na ọgwụ mgbochi ahụ agaghị ebute kansa ka e kwadoro ya.

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Na-enweghị mmebi nke ike ịmụ nwa.

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Ma n'ihe gbasara ihe ndị na-emetụta mkpụrụ ndụ nke ọma
– nke bụ ihe anyị na-atụle ebe a, ọbụlagodi na a

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na-akpọ ha ọgwụ mgbochi – na ọ nweghị mmebi nye ndị nke atọ.

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N'ihi na ihe mkpụrụ ndụ ihe nketa nwere ike
ịpụta n'ime iku ume ma mee ka ndị ọzọ merụọ ahụ.

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Ọ dịghị otu n'ime ọmụmụ nchekwa atọ a dị
maka EMA ma ọ bụ maka Paul Ehrlich Institute.

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Ị nwetara mgbe ọ bụla nkwupụta mgbasa ozi
sitere na Paul Ehrlich Institute nke na-ekwu:

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Ụlọ Ọrụ Paul Ehrlich ekwuputala ndị na-emepụta ihe
ugboro nke atọ ka ha nye nnyocha ndị ahụ. A naghị enye ha.

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Nke a bụ ihe kpatara a ji wepụ ikike ahụ ugbu a.

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Ị natara nkwupụta mgbasa ozi a? Mba.

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Ị ga-atụ anya ha? Ee, n'ezie. Ya
mere, ebee ka nkwupụta mgbasa ozi a dị?

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Ọ dịghị onye na-ahụ maka nchekwa
ọgwụ na Germany. Ọ bụ obodo Potemkin.

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Nke ahụ bụ Ụlọ Ọrụ Paul Ehrlich.

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Ee, daalụ nke ukwuu maka nyocha ahụ. Ọ
na-enye nghọta nke ukwuu, daalụ nke ukwuu.

