WEBVTT 00:00.291 --> 00:06.887 Batho, batho ba nang le inshorense le bakuli ba lokela ho tseba hore tlhokomelo ea litla-morao tsa meriana 00:06.887 --> 00:11.216 Jeremane e emisitsoe ka ho feletseng mabapi le liente tsena. 00:11.216 --> 00:18.430 Kahoo ke bolaodi bo phahameng ba mmuso bo hlakileng hore bo phethahatsa morero ona: thekiso ya ente ha e a lokela ho sitiswa. 00:18.430 --> 00:26.673 Mookameli oa mehleng oa lefapha la polokeho ea meriana Setsing sa Paul Ehrlich, Ngaka Keller-Stanislawski, o ile a lumela ka pel'a 00:26.673 --> 00:33.776 komiti ea lipatlisiso ea Brandenburg ka Loetse 2023 hore bolaoli ba Jeremane bo ne bo imetsoe ka ho feletseng ke 00:33.776 --> 00:37.990 mosebetsi oa ho tlaleha litla-morao tse ngata tsa ente. 00:37.990 --> 00:44.904 Kla.TV e tlalehile . Leha ho le joalo, ho tloha pele ho sewa sa coronavirus, ho na le pelaelo ya hore Setsi sa Paul Ehrlich 00:44.904 --> 00:52.630 ha se phethe mosebetsi wa sona wa ho etsa dipatlisiso le ho tlaleha tshenyo e bakwang ke ente ka tekanyo e hlokehang. 00:52.630 --> 00:59.797 Dr Klaus Hartmann, ya sebeleditseng dilemo tse leshome Setsing sa Paul Ehrlich Lefapheng la Polokeho ya Meriana, o tlohetse setsi 00:59.797 --> 01:06.686 hobane o ne a bone ka mahlo kamoo se ileng sa arabela ka tsela e sa lekanang ho hang mme e le morao haholo ha ente e nang le 01:06.686 --> 01:12.186 mefuta e tsheletseng e ne e belaellwa ka e le e ikarabellang bakeng sa keketseho ea liketsahalo tsa 01:12.186 --> 01:15.904 seo ho thoeng ke 'lefu le sa lebelloang la masea'. 01:15.904 --> 01:22.014 Ka nako eo, palo e makatsang ea masea e ile ea hlokahala e le likhoeli li peli – e leng hantle lilemo 01:22.014 --> 01:26.063 tseo ka tsona ho fuoang liente tsa pele tsa tloaelo. 01:26.063 --> 01:32.828 Phuputso e neng e etselitsoe ho batlisisa kamano ena e tšehelitsoe haholo ka lichelete ke bahlahisi ba 01:32.828 --> 01:39.516 liente ba ikarabellang bakeng sa mafu ao, ka liente tsa bona tsa tse tšeletseng ka e le 'ngoe. 01:39.516 --> 01:45.476 Ka hona, phuputso ha e a ka ya fumana kamano efe kapa efe. 01:45.476 --> 01:53.817 Mohlahlobisisi oa liente le mongoli Wolfram Klingele, ea ileng a hlahloba phuputso ena ka botebo, o re hore 01:53.817 --> 02:01.756 datha e ile ea fetolwa ho tloha qalong ebe ea khabisoa hape 'tlhahlobong' ea ho qetela. 02:01.756 --> 02:09.559 Naheng ea Jeremane, litla-morao tsa ente li tlalehoa ho sebelisoa mokhoa o bitsoang 'mokhoa oa tlaleho e iketsahallang' 02:09.559 --> 02:13.730 kamora hore ente e amoheloe ke Setsi sa Paul Ehrlich. 02:13.730 --> 02:18.890 Sena se bolela hore batho ba amehileng, dingaka le borakhemisi ba lokela ho tlalehela ba 02:18.890 --> 02:22.490 boholong ka ditlamorao tse mpe tsa meriana. 02:22.490 --> 02:32.167 Puisanong le Michael Leitner ka 2013, Klaus Hartmann o ile a re ha e le hantle ho se ho ntse ho tsejwa ka mashome a dilemo hore 02:32.167 --> 02:40.167 mokgwa ona wa ho rekota ka bo oona o ne o sa sebetse – empa o ne o ntse o sebediswa hobane o ne o fana ka 02:40.167 --> 02:45.248 lebaka la ho tswela pele ho bontsha ente e se na mathata. 02:45.248 --> 02:52.291 Kahoo a re: "Haeba o sa tlalehe mathata afe kapa afe, o ka ipolela ka boikaketsi hore ha ho na le ona, 02:52.291 --> 02:59.360 leha o na le lisebelisoa tse fokolang feela tseo o ka li sebelisang ho fumana hore na a teng." 02:59.360 --> 03:04.136 Ena ke leqheka le sebelitseng hantle haholo ho fihlela jwale. 03:04.136 --> 03:14.703 Le na le mokgwa wa ho rekota o sa sebetseng kannete – ebe le ithorisa ka hore ho na le ditlamorao tse fokolang haholo. 03:14.703 --> 03:22.237 Puisanong e 'ngoe e hasitsoeng ho ARD ka 2018, Klaus Hartmann o ile a re ho ne ho e-na le pelaelo e neng e lula e hlaha ea 03:22.237 --> 03:30.576 hore Paul Ehrlich Institute e ne e sa batle kannete ho tseba hore na ho na le litla-morao tse mpe tse tsoang lientefung. 03:30.576 --> 03:37.670 "Mohopolo ona o hlile o tla kelellong," ho rialo Ngaka Sonja Reitz, eo re buisanang le eena kajeno. 03:37.670 --> 03:44.199 Puisanong e latelang, utlwa tlhahlobo ya hae ya kamoo Setsi sa Paul Ehrlich se sebetsanang le mofuta o motjha ka 03:44.199 --> 03:47.493 ho felletseng wa ente e tsejwang e le "ente ya corona". 03:49.423 --> 03:54.265 Mantsiboea a monate, Ngaka Reitz. U se u kile ua ba mona pele mme ua bontša ho se khotsofale ho hoholo ka 03:54.265 --> 03:57.936 mosebetsi oa Setsi sa Paul Ehrlich. U ka re bolella eng ka seo? 03:57.936 --> 04:05.701 E, ena ke taba ya bohlokwa haholo hobane setjhaba se itshetlehile ka setsi sena, seo ho lebelletsweng hore e be mohlokomedi wa 04:05.701 --> 04:12.049 polokeho ya meriana Jeremane, mme ka tlwaelo hape se ikarabella bakeng sa ho amohela mekento le ho beha 04:12.049 --> 04:15.463 leihlo polokeho ya dihlahiswa tsa meriana le mekento. 04:15.463 --> 04:20.883 E, ho thabisa haholo mona ka liente tsa rona tse ncha tsa coronavirus tse sa tsoa hlahisoa. 04:20.883 --> 04:28.870 Mme jwale, ka 2021, re phethile letsholo lena, re ka re, le leholo la ente. 04:28.870 --> 04:35.876 Ke dumela hore mehlano e dimilione tse 130 e ile ya abelwa ka 2021. 04:35.876 --> 04:41.451 Sena se bolela hore batho ba bangata ba entetsoe habeli, mme ba bang ba entetsoe hararo. Ho fihlela 04:41.451 --> 04:44.250 jwale, ho fanoe ka lidose tse dimilione tse 192. 04:44.250 --> 04:53.596 Mme jwale ente ena e amohetswe ke EMA, Mokgatlo wa Meriana wa Yuropa, oo PEI e sebetsang haufi-ufi le ona. 04:53.596 --> 04:58.256 Leha ho le jwalo, PEI e na le mosebetsi wa ho beha leihlo polokeho ya meriana naheng ya Jeremane. 04:58.256 --> 05:04.368 Mme seo re se sibollang hona jwale ke hore Setsi sa Paul Ehrlich se hlolehile ho latella matshwao a 05:04.368 --> 05:08.256 mangata a neng a bontsha kotsi ya dithethefatsi tsena. 05:08.256 --> 05:15.158 Ho ne ho na le lipontšo tse tsoang ho baprofesa tsa hore ho na le litšila litabeng tsena, e leng litšila tse bonoang ka 05:15.158 --> 05:19.150 mahlo le tse bonoang ka maekorosekope, ka bopaki le bongoli. 05:19.150 --> 05:25.543 Mme PEI ya re, ha re na thahasello ho seo, re itshetlehile ka tlhahisoleseding ya moetsi mme ha re itlhahlelle. 05:25.543 --> 05:30.877 Ho ne ho e-na le lihlopha tse 'maloa tsa boprofesa. Kea tseba hore Moprofesa Burkhardt o ngotse ho Paul Ehrlich 05:30.877 --> 05:36.303 Institute ka la 21 Hlakubele hore ho ne ho e-na le litšila, le hore ho ne ho e-na le pelaelo ea litšila. 05:36.303 --> 05:39.303 Setsi sa Paul Ehrlich se ile sa e hlokomoloha mme ha se ka sa etsa letho. 05:39.303 --> 05:46.491 Eaba boprofesa ba bang ba bona hore ho na le mebala e sa tšoaneng haholo ka har'a maro ana a liente. 05:46.491 --> 05:51.646 Ba ile ba ngola hore moo, e ne e boetse e hlahile setšoantšong ho Berliner Zeitung kapa ho ile ha hlaha sengoloa. 05:51.646 --> 05:56.573 Setsi sa Paul Ehrlich se amohela lengolo lena mme ha se etse letho, se hopotsoa, mme ha se etse letho. 05:56.573 --> 05:59.336 Mme ha e etse lipatlisiso kapa litlhahlobo. 05:59.336 --> 06:04.246 Ba ne ba batla ho bona diphuputso tse phatlaladitsweng tse hlahlobilweng ke ditsebi tse ding, ho ena le ho re ona ke 06:04.246 --> 06:09.636 belaello e matla haholo, haholoholo kaha dithethefatsi tsena kaofela ha di a etsetswa diphuputso tse lekaneng ho hang. 06:09.636 --> 06:13.278 Sethethefatsi se hlahisitsweng bakeng sa tshebediso e akaretsang se fapane ka ho 06:13.278 --> 06:16.056 feletseng le se sebedisitsweng phuputsong ya tumello. 06:16.056 --> 06:21.707 Ke lona lebaka le ka sehloohong la hore na ke hobaneng ha Setsi sa Paul Ehrlich se ne se lokela ho 06:21.707 --> 06:24.810 etsa boiteko ba ho batlisisa ka botlalo litla-morao. 06:24.810 --> 06:30.625 Batho ba robeli ba ile ba hlokahala bosiung ba ente ea pele nakong ea teko ea tumello, e leng ntho eo batho ba 06:30.625 --> 06:34.170 bangata ba sa e tsebeng hobane ha ho buuoe ka bona tekong eo. 06:34.170 --> 06:36.610 U ka boela oa bitsa sena boqhekanyetsi. 06:36.610 --> 06:44.643 Ba kenyelelitse feela bakuli ba neng ba boetse ba fumane ente ea bobeli, eaba ba etsa lipatlisiso tsa bona. 06:44.643 --> 06:49.876 Kahoo batho ba fetang 1,200 ba nyametse; ha ba a ka ba fumana ente ea bobeli. Ba robeli ba hlokahetse. 06:49.876 --> 06:54.414 Kahoo ke mpa feela ke batla ho bolela hore, ka ho tseba tlhahisoleseding ena – Setsi sa Paul Ehrlich se ne se tseba 06:54.414 --> 06:59.350 ka dintho tsena – ba ka be ba ile ba kenya tshebetsong hang-hang mokgwa o fapaneng ka ho felletseng wa ho beha leihlo. 06:59.350 --> 07:04.170 Re hloka ho shebisisa mekhoa ea bongaka: bokuli bo fetoha joang tšebetsong? 07:04.170 --> 07:07.690 Ho hlaha litla-morao tse kae? Ka ho botsa lipotso ka mafolofolo. 07:07.690 --> 07:12.556 Kahoo eseng ka ho hlahloba feela hore na ke mang ea tlalehang eng, empa ka ho botsa lipotso ka mafolofolo. 07:12.556 --> 07:16.842 Empa ntlha e nngwe ke hore ba ile ba etsa mofuta o itseng wa ho fetola dintlha ha ba ne ba 07:16.842 --> 07:19.710 ntsha batho bana ba robedi phuputsong ya tumello. 07:19.710 --> 07:25.376 E ne e se Setsi sa Paul Ehrlich, e ne e le Pfizer ka kotloloho, ke hore, bahlahisi. 07:25.376 --> 07:30.389 Mme moetsi Pfizer o tsebahala haholo ka sena; o se a qositsoe makhetlo a mararo Amerika, mme a lefa 07:30.389 --> 07:35.323 dimilione tse ngata tsa dikoloto tsa tefello bakeng sa ho qhekella diphuputso tsa tumello. 07:35.323 --> 07:42.028 Kahoo ha re saena likonteraka le Pfizer, ha re etse joalo le k'hamphani e sa tsejoeng e nang le botumo bo 07:42.028 --> 07:49.116 botle, empa re etsa joalo le k'hamphani e kileng ea ahloleloa liketso tsa botlokotsebe makhetlo a 'maloa. 07:49.116 --> 07:56.105 Seo se etsa hore ho be bohlokoa le ho feta ho shebisisa theknoloji e ncha e tšepisang phaello ea libilione 07:56.105 --> 08:03.250 tse peli – eo, qetellong, e neng e lefatsoa ke bo-ralipolotiki – empa hape e nang le likotsi tse tšabehang. 08:03.250 --> 08:10.545 Mof. Keller-Stanislawski ho tsoa Setsing sa Paul Ehrlich o tlalehile mafu a fetang leshome a belaelloang ka la 10 Pherekhong 08:10.545 --> 08:14.650 2021, matsatsi a 14 feela kamorao ho qaleho ea letšolo la ente. 08:14.650 --> 08:21.043 Mme ho tloha ka Phuptjane 2021 ho ya pele, re bona keketseho e kgolo haholo ya mafu dipalopalong ka kakaretso, e ntseng e 08:21.043 --> 08:24.450 nyoloha le ho tlola hodimo hantle ha ente ya tlatsetso e fanoa. 08:24.450 --> 08:27.736 Ho tloha ka lehwetla la 2021, palo ena e tla nyoloha haholo hape. 08:27.736 --> 08:38.721 Mme jwale re na le – ho tloha ka nako eo ho fihlela mafelong a 2022 – mafu a fetang 120,000 a eketsehileng a sa hlalosweng. 08:38.721 --> 08:44.320 120,000, eo bonyane ho yona – jwalo ka ha rona, mokgatlo wa tsa bongaka, re fihletse qeto – e fetang 08:44.320 --> 08:49.763 100,000 e lokelang ho amahanngwa le ente, hobane ha re na tlhaloso e nngwe bakeng sa yona. 08:49.763 --> 08:56.746 Mme maemong a jwalo – dipalo tsena ke dipalo tsa Destatis , lipalo tsa sechaba – Paul Ehrlich Institute, RKI, bohle ba lokela 08:56.746 --> 09:02.277 ho re re hloka ho shebisisa hang-hang se etsahalang le ho latela tlhahisoleseling efe kapa efe e ka 09:02.277 --> 09:05.676 netefatsang kapa ka tsela e itseng ea tiisa belaello. 09:05.676 --> 09:07.303 Mme ho etsahala hantle se fapaneng. 09:07.303 --> 09:13.189 Batho baa tiisetsoa, boemo bo ntse bo nyenyefatswa, mme ho bolelwa hore phetoho ya tlelaemete e se e ikarabella 09:13.189 --> 09:16.830 bakeng sa mafu ana, leha ho ne ho se na leqhubu la mocheso. 09:16.830 --> 09:23.703 Kahoo re iphumana re le boemong bo belaetsang haholo. 09:23.703 --> 09:30.496 Boemo bo boetse bo belaetsa hobane letona la rona la bophelo bo botle ha e le hantle le na le tsebo e ngata ka se etsahalang moo. 09:30.496 --> 09:33.016 Le hore ha a ka a eketsa tshehetso ya ditjhelete bakeng sa bolaodi bona. 09:33.016 --> 09:40.107 Hore o ile a tswela pele ho hira batho ba leshome le motso o le mong moo mme a sa hira batho ba bangata ho 09:40.107 --> 09:43.869 sebetsana le ditlaleho tse ngata tsa ditlamorao le mafu. 09:43.869 --> 09:48.896 Ntho e tšoanang e etsahetse ho EMA, moo data e atileng haholo 'me ba sitoa ho e latela. 09:48.896 --> 09:51.670 Ha ho na lipatlisiso mabapi le se etsahalang hantle. 09:51.670 --> 09:57.323 Mme hangata ha o fumane le netefatso ya hore o tlalehile ditlamorao tsa ente moo. 09:57.323 --> 10:03.336 Seo se bolela hore ho na le pelaelo ea hore ha e le hantle ha o batle ho tseba se etsahalang kannete ka ente ena. 10:03.336 --> 10:07.719 E, mohopolo oo o ka hlaha kelellong ea motho. Le 'na ha ke khone ho o hanyetsa. 10:07.719 --> 10:11.683 Hantle, ha ke kgone ho e tiisa, ha ke kgone ho e paka, empa e batla e iponahatsa ka ho totobala. 10:11.683 --> 10:18.316 Ha o ntan'o fumana karabo potsolotsong ea hau e ka bang ka tsela ena, mohlala, hore ho hlokometsoe Denmark, Amerika le Jeremane 10:18.316 --> 10:23.225 femeng ea babuelli ea molao e emetseng batho ba bangata ba lemetseng ka lebaka la liente, hore 10:23.225 --> 10:28.630 liperesente tse 15 tsa lihlopha tsa liente li baka liperesente tse 95 tsa litla-morao tse mpe haholo. 10:28.630 --> 10:31.036 Seo se bolela hore dihlopha di fapane. 10:31.036 --> 10:34.943 Haeba sehlopha se fapane, se tlameha ho huloa 'marakeng hang-hang. 10:34.943 --> 10:39.356 Mme ha kopo e fihla Setsing sa Paul Ehrlich, ho etsahala'ng ka nako eo? 10:39.356 --> 10:41.310 Ho na le phapang lipakeng tsa lihlopha. Na o a bona seo? 10:41.310 --> 10:47.194 Ebe ba re ha re kgone ho bapisa dinomoro tsa dihlopha tsa ente le ditlamorao, leha di tlameha ho kenngwa foromong e nngwe 10:47.194 --> 10:52.908 le e nngwe , ho seng jwalo pampiri ya datha e ke ke ya sebetsa ho hang, ntle le haeba o se o e hatisitse esale pele. 10:52.908 --> 10:56.189 Empa boholo ba yona bo tlalehwa inthaneteng, kahoo ha ho na mokgwa wa ho qoba seo. 10:56.189 --> 11:00.543 Ha o ka ke wa tlaleha letho haeba o sa kenya nomoro ya sehlopha. 11:00.543 --> 11:04.903 Ntlheng ena, qoso e jwalo e ka nkuwa feela e le qoso ya boitshireletso. 11:04.903 --> 11:09.683 Mme ba re: Ho thweng ka ho hlahloba tshilafalo? 11:09.683 --> 11:15.874 Ho ne ho na le lipontšo: tšilafalo ea DNA e bakang mofetše, tšilafalo ka lintho tse ling, ka li-plasmid, 11:15.874 --> 11:19.483 kaofela li bakang mofetše, kapa li ka baka mofetše. 11:19.483 --> 11:24.796 Ebe Setsi sa Paul Ehrlich se re: Che, ha re etse tlhahlobo ea liphutheloana mona. 11:24.796 --> 11:29.956 Re tšepa tlhahisoleseding ea moetsi hore tsohle li lokile tlhahisong. 11:29.956 --> 11:32.846 Joale ha ke hloke le tlhokomelo ea meriana. Ke bothoto. 11:32.846 --> 11:33.756 E. 11:33.756 --> 11:40.596 Hobaneng re be le tlhokomelo haeba e mpa e re moetsi o boletse joalo, re lumela seo moetsi a se buang? 11:40.596 --> 11:45.716 Ha ho kholoe. Tlhahlobo ea mahlo e etsoa Setsing sa Paul Ehrlich. 11:45.716 --> 11:55.530 Seo se bolela hore o e sheba – ha ke bone makumane a phaphametseng – mme ke yona tlhahlobo ya boleng e etsahalang. 11:55.530 --> 12:03.180 Ke thetso feela. Setsi sena se teng ho netefatsa polokeho ea meriana Jeremane, tlas'a 12:03.180 --> 12:06.356 bolaoli bo phahameng ba bophelo bo botle. 12:06.356 --> 12:14.230 Mme Molao oa Meriana o bolela hore haeba ntho e itseng e se na phello e tšepisitsoeng, e tlameha ho tlosoa 'marakeng. 12:14.230 --> 12:18.554 Haeba sethethefatsi se na le ditlamorao tse ngata ho feta tse neng di tshepisitswe, jwalo ka ha ho boletswe 12:18.554 --> 12:21.030 phuputsong ya tumello, se tlameha ho tloswa mmarakeng. 12:21.030 --> 12:23.049 Sena sohle se fumaneha mona. 12:23.049 --> 12:26.276 Ntlha e 'ngoe e ka bang bohlokoa tabeng ena. 12:26.276 --> 12:30.936 Setsi sa Paul Ehrlich se sebetsa ka tumello. Ba tseba se hlokahalang hore tumello e fanoe. 12:30.936 --> 12:35.931 E mong le e mong o tlameha ho fana ka setifikeiti sa polokeho se bolelang hore ente e 12:35.931 --> 12:38.601 ke ke ea baka mofetše, e le hore e amoheloe. 12:38.601 --> 12:40.909 Bokgoni ba ho ima ha bo sitiswa. 12:40.909 --> 12:45.544 Mme tabeng ya dintho tse sebetsang ka tsela ya lefutso – e leng seo re sebetsanang le sona mona, leha 12:45.544 --> 12:47.956 di bitswa mekento – hore ho se be kotsi ho ba bang. 12:47.956 --> 12:52.696 Hobane thepa ea lefutso e ka 'na ea tsoa ka moea o tsoang matšoafeng 'me ea kotsetsa batho ba bang. 12:52.696 --> 12:57.483 Ha ho le e 'ngoe ea lithuto tsena tse tharo tsa polokeho e neng e fumaneha ho EMA kapa ho Paul Ehrlich Institute. 12:57.483 --> 13:02.083 Mme na o kile wa fumana phatlalatso ya boralitaba e tswang ho Paul Ehrlich Institute e reng: 13:02.083 --> 13:06.938 Setsi sa Paul Ehrlich se lemositse bahlahisi ka lekhetlo la boraro hore ba fane ka diphuputso. Ha di eso fannwe. 13:06.938 --> 13:10.096 Ke ka lebaka leo laesense e hlakolwang hona jwale. 13:10.096 --> 13:12.503 Na o amohetse phatlalatso ena ea boralitaba? Che. 13:12.503 --> 13:17.810 Na u ne u ka ba lebella? E, ehlile. Joale phatlalatso ena ea boralitaba e hokae? 13:17.810 --> 13:23.126 Ha ho na motho ea tiisang polokeho ea meriana Jeremane. Ke motsana oa Potemkin. 13:23.126 --> 13:26.236 Ke Setsi sa Paul Ehrlich. 13:26.236 --> 13:28.896 E, kea leboha haholo ka tlhahlobo eo. Ea hlaka haholo, kea leboha haholo.