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Amaqela anamandla asebenza nzima ukuphelisa imali ngokupheleleyo.

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Kulo lonke elaseYurophu kwaye ngakumbi kwi-EU.

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Namhlanje sithetha nengcali ngalo mbandela, eyenza
konke okusemandleni ayo ukukhusela iSwitzerland

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kwesi siphelo nokusindisa eli candelo lenkululeko yethu.

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Siyamkela uRichard Koller, isithunywa se
"schweiz-macher" kunye nomongameli we "Freiheitliche Bewegung

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Schweiz" (Intshukumo yeNkululeko yaseSwitzerland).

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Nibuliso lonke emva kwemini, ndiyavuya kakhulu
ukuba lapha – kwiZindlu zePalamente – kwaye

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ndicinga ukuba kuza kuba nomdla ukuva oko siza kufunda.

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Uninzi lwabantu lucinga ukuba ukulahla imali engxoweni
asiyonto yenzekayo eSwitzerland. Ucinga ntoni ngaloo nto?

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Kulungile, mhlawumbi yimpazamo leyo.

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Ukuba asiyilungisi le mpazamo,
kunokwenzeka ukuba siza kufunda oku ngendlela enzima.

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Kuba, inyaniso yeyokuba, abantu abavakalelwa ngathi imali
iyapheliswa ngokuthe ngqo – kuba asizozopolitiki eziphelisa

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imali; ozopolitiki abenzi nto yokwenene ukuyigcina imali,
kodwa kungenxa yokuba uqoqosho lusebenzela ukunciphisa imali.

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Sele siyibona le nto kwiimarike zeKrisimesi –
nakwezinye iimarike kananjalo – siyibona kwiinkampani,

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nakwiivenkile zokubhaka ezithi ngequbuliso azisamkeli mali.

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Oku si kubona kwiindawo zokutyela ezingasebenzisi mali.

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Ekuhambeni kwexesha, uqoqosho luza kunciphisa luze luphelise
imali engxoweni, kwaye oku ngoku kwenzeka

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ngesantya esikhawulezayo kwezothutho lukawonke-wonke,
apho imali engxoweni isingasasetyenziswa khona.

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Oku kuthetha ukuba abantu abahlawula ngemali engxoweni
abazakwazi ukuthenga amatikiti kwezithuthi zikawonke-wonke.

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Oku kuyanciphisa ugcino lwethu
lwemali. Kwaye kufuneka silwa naloo nto.

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Emva koko kukho nenyani yokuba sikwanazo nemibutho
yamazwe ngamazwe, efana neBetter than Cash Alliance.

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Ezi zasekwa ngo-2012 yiBill & Melinda Gates
Foundation, iFord Foundation, i-USAID

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kunye nezinye iziko ezibalulekileyo nezikhulu.

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Kwaye bazibekele usukelo lokuphelisa ukusetyenziswa kwemali –
kwihlabathi jikelele – baze bayitshintshe ngemali yedijithali.

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Kuyathakazelisa, kwaye kubonisa kakuhle ngeSwitzerland, ukuba
i-SECO yethu – iSekretari yeLizwe yeeMicimbi yezoQoqosho –

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ayizange ibandakanyeke ekusekweni ngo-2012, kodwa yaqala
ukuhlawula izigidi ezibini ngo-2012 ukuze kupheliswe

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ukusetyenziswa kwemali engxoweni, kwaye yaphinda yanikwa
umsebenzi wokudlulisela zonke iitekhnoloji

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nolwazi olufunekayo malunga nokudluliselwa kwemali
ngedijithali – ingakumbi kumazwe asaphuhlayo.

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Oku kubonisa ngokwenene ukuba ukupheliswa
kwemali engxoweni ngumgomo iSwitzerland

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esebenza ukuze iwufikelele, ikhokela phambili.

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Ndicinga ukuba kungakuba bubudenge ukukholelwa
ukuba imali ayizukupheliswa apha eSwitzerland.

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Yiyo loo nto kubalulekile ukuba sikwazi
ukufaka imali engukheshi kumgaqo-siseko.

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Kutheni imali kufuneka ipheliswe?

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Kulungile, zininzi izizathu, kodwa esinye
esibaluleke kakhulu yimeko yezemali yehlabathi.

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Imeko yezemali imi ngathi umhlaba unetyala.

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Ngokukodwa, isixa esiphindwe kathathu umthamo
wonyaka woluntu wokuyivelisa. Kwaye oku akunakuhlawulwa.

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Oku kungathetha ukuba uluntu kuya kufuneka lusebenze
iminyaka emithathu lungasebenzisi naziphi na

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izibonelelo okanye lungatyi ukuze luhlawule le ntaba yamatyala.

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Kwaye yiyo loo nto kuza kubakho ukuwa
kwezemali ngaxa lithile kwixesha elizayo.

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Akuseyombuzo wokuba ingaba oku kuza kwenzeka,
kodwa ngoku yeyokuba kuza kwenzeka nini. Kuza

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kuqhambuka kwimeko yezemali yehlabathi yangoku.

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Kwaye ke, eso sesinye sezizathu sokuba iinkokheli eziphezulu
zifune ukuphelisa imali engxoweni, ukuze emva koku kuwa

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kwezemali, emva kokuba yonke into itshatyalalile,
zikwazi ukulawula abantu nokulawula yonke imeko yezemali

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ngendlela yokuba yakhiwe ngokutsha ngokunika inzuzo kuzo.

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Kungenjalo, kambe ke, ukuba konke oko
kungenzeka, abantu abathile bangamanyana, amaqela

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namazwe angamanyana aze azakhele ngokwawo.

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Abazakuyithanda loo nto. Sele bethenga
zonke ezi zinto zixabisekileyo nezibonelelo.

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Oku kuthetha ukuba zonke iimayini zegolide ziyathengwa, igolide
iyathengwa, isilivere iyathengwa, nomhlaba wezolimo uyathengwa.

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EMelika, uBill Gates ngoku ngoyena mnini-mhlaba wezolimo mkhulu.

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Kwaye oko kubonisa ukuba le bhubhu yezemali iyagqabhuka.

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Kwaye oku kufuneka kuphetshwe ngazo zonke iindlela,
ukuze imali iqhubeke isetyenziswa ekugqibeleni,

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ivumele abantu baqhubeke nokuzimela kwaye bangalawuleki.

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Kwaye ndicinga ukuba kubi kangakanani,
ungakubona oko ngoku kumazwe afana neNorway,

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iSweden neDenmark, angasenayo imali engxoweni.

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Kuyenzeka kwakhona ukulwa imfazwe namhlanje – umzekelo, iSweden,
enayo imali engaphantsi kwe-10% esasazekileyo

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– njengelizwe, akuyi kufuneka nokuba
uhlasele, ungavala nje umbane okanye i-intanethi yabo.

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Oko kungathetha ukuba kwisithuba seeveki ezimbini okanye
ezintathu, ilizwe lingagxothiwe – kwezoqoqosho – kwaye mhlawumbi

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lingangena emfazweni yamakhaya, kuba ke ngelo xesha kungakho
umcimbi wezibonelelo, oko kukuthi ukutya, nayo yonke into.

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Kwaye oko kubonisa ukuba kubaluleke kangakanani ukuyazi
kakuhle itekhnoloji yedijithali, kwaye imali engxoweni

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ngokuqinisekileyo ibiya kuba yinto embi ngaloo ndlela.

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ISweden neNorway ngoku zizama ukuyijika le meko,
njengoko sele ziqaphele ingozi eziyibeke kuzo.

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Kodwa ayisenzeki ke ngoku, nokuba ngoku bathi
amashishini kufuneka amkele imali kwakhona.

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Abantu abanayo imali, kwaye imali ayisakhuli,
ngoko ke bakwimeko enzima ngokwenene ngoku.

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Kukho umthetho ofuna ukwamkelwa kweenothi neengqekembe.

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Kutheni imali isenokwaliwa?

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Kulungile, eSwitzerland, umthetho wethu wemali, i-WZG,
eneneni uthi kwiSihloko 3 wonke umntu kufuneka amkele

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iibhanki ezikhutshwe yiBhanki yeSizwe, ngaphandle kwemiqathango.

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Nangona kunjalo, eli nqaku likhethekileyo, okuthetha ukuba
lisebenza kuphela xa kuthatyathwa amanyathelo asemthethweni.

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Umzekelo, ukuba ibhakhari ibhala, "Asiyamkeli mali engxoweni,"
kwaye umthengi engena efuna ukuthenga into kwaye eyazi

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loo nto, ngoko ke akukho sivumelwano siza kwakha, nto
leyo ethetha ukuba akukho ntengiselwano iza kwenzeka.

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Kwaye ukuba akukho nxaxheba eyakha
yenzeka, awunakumangalela phantsi kwalo mthetho.

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Kwaye yiyo leyo ingxaki ngomthetho ongakunyanzelisiyo:
awunakuthatha nyathelo lwezomthetho ngako, nto leyo

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ethetha ukuba urhwebo lunamandla okuzigqibelela
ukuba lufuna ukwamkela imali engxoweni na okanye hayi.

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Iphulo elithandwayo elithi "Imali yinkululeko"
lifumene isiphakamiso esiphikisayo kwiBhunga

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leFederal. Yeyiphi umahluko phakathi kwezi zimbini?

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Ngoko ke, thina apha kwi-Volksinitiative sifuna
ukuba urhulumente womanyano ahlale ebonelela

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ngenani elaneleyo leengqekembe nemali ephepheni.

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Kwaye isiphakamiso esibuyekeziweyo seBhunga
leFederal ngoku sithi iBhanki yeSizwe inoxanduva

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lokuqinisekisa ukuba imali ekhoyo iyajikeleza.

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Kwaye oko, ewe kona, yinto engqinelana kakhulu –
liqhinga nje elincinci likarhulumente – kuba ingxaki

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evelayo ngoku yeyokuba ayifani yonke imali engukheshi.

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Kuba xa ndisithi "ndihlawula ngemali", ndithetha ukuthi
andihlawuli ngekhadi letyala, oko kukuthi,

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andihlawuli nge-akhawunti okanye
ngenkxaso-mali ethile, kodwa ndihlawula imali engukheshi.

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Kwaye kusetyenziso lwesiFrentshi nesiTaliyane, "je
paie cash" ithetha "Ndihlawula ngemali engxoweni",

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kodwa oko kuthetha nokuba ndingahlawula nge-debit card .

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Yiyo loo nto kunokwenzeka ukuba urhulumente womdibaniso umisele
ukuba iBhanki yeSizwe imele iqinisekise ukufumaneka kwemali,

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ngaloo ndlela iyenza ikwazi ukubonelela ngemali ye-elektroniki
ngaphandle kokungqubana noMgaqo-siseko woMdibaniso.

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Ngoko ke, asinakuyamkela isiphakamiso
esichasayo esithe ngqo sikarhulumente womanyano

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njengoko sinjalo namhlanje – sisenevoti ngoMatshi.

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Ingajongeka njani imali yedijithali yekamva?

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Imali yedijithali yekamva mhlawumbi iya
kuba ngumxube we-cryptocurrency ne-Twint.

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Ngoko ke oko kuthetha ukuba ingasebenza kuphela
ngesixhobo sedijithali. Namhlanje, siqhele oku kwii-selfie.

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Sisisixhobo sedijithali, kwaye imali, oko kukuthi yonke inkqubo
yokuhlawula, iya kuphathwa nge-wallet

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ekuthiwa njalo – oko kukuthi i-exchange, isipaji,
i-wallet – eya kuba kule sisixhobo sedijithali.

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Kwaye le terminali yedijithali ibiya
kunxibelelana neBhanki yeSizwe yaseSwitzerland, ndicinga.

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Wonke umntu wayeya kuba ne-akhawunti
enye kuphela – kwayingeke kubekho iibhanki.

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Oku kungathetha ukuba xa sifuna ukuthenga into,
inkqubo ingafuna ukuba siqale sikwindawo evunyiweyo.

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Okwesibini, kukuba singathenga nantoni na
esisekhona kuthi – okanye nantoni na ekhoyo –

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kwaye kuphela ngemali esiyikhuphileyo, ewe.

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Ngoko ke besiya kuba phantsi kolawulo ngokupheleleyo.

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Ewe, sele uthethile ngaloo nto – into ebendifuna
ukuyibuza ngokulandelisa yile: Zeziphi iingozi esiza

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kujongana nazo ngokwenene ngaphandle kwemali engxoweni?

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Ewe, zininzi iingozi. Kum, eyona ngozi inkulu
kukuthathwa kwempahla ngenxa yenzala engemihle – okanye...

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UChristine Lagarde wathi ngo-2016 – njengoko
kuxeliwe kwi-Blick , ndikholelwa ukuba

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yayingomhla we-14 ku-Epreli, ngokutsho kwe-Blick – ukuba:

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Isizathu ekuphela kwaso esenza iirates zenzala
ezingaphantsi zingasebenzi kukuba siseneemali ezijikelezayo.

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Ukuba, ewe, bekungekho mali ikhoyo ejikelezayo, oku kungathetha
ukuba abantu bebengayi kuba namakhuselo kwaphela ukuba ibhanki

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yesizwe ingavele yazise, "Ngoku siza kuthabatha i-10% ngonyaka
kuwo onke ama-akhawunti kuba siyidinga ngeenjongo zolawulo."

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Awusayi kuphinda ukwazi ukuthenga izinto
ngekheshini usebenzisa ezinye iindlela.

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Oko kunokwenzeka kuphela ngemali
yedijithali. Kwaye yeyona ngozi inkulu kum.

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Ngoko ke ndicinga ukuba iireyithi zenzala
ezingentla nokuthathwa kwempahla kungenzeka.

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Emva koko, ewe, kukho nezinye iingozi.

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Ngoko ke, ewe, omnye umngcipheko omkhulu kukuxhomekeka –
njengoko benditshilo ngaphambili – kumbane nakwi-intanethi.

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Ngoko ke, ukuba kukho into eyonakayo,
iintengiselwano zentlawulo azisebenzi kwangoko.

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Emva koko kukho into yokuba asisayi
kukwazi ukugcina amandla okumelana neengxaki .

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Oku kuthetha ukuba kwiimeko ezingxamisekileyo – ezifana
nezo zikwenzeka ngoku eNorway naseSweden – akusayi kubakho

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ndlela yokuqhubeka nokusebenza ngenxa yokuphelelwa yimali.

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Oko kungathetha ukuba ukuba besingenayo
i-intanethi, uqoqosho beluya kuma. Beluya kuyeka ukusebenza.

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Noko ke, ngemali, besinokuthi siqhubeke
nokuhlawula, okanye ewe, uqoqosho luyaqhubeka

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lukho kwaye umonakalo omkhulu ungathintelwa.

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Leyo yenye ingongoma ebalulekileyo.

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Sisoloko sisiva ukuba le mali yedijithali isenza
sikwazi ukulandelwa ngokupheleleyo. Ingaba yinyani?

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Ewe, kunjalo ngenene.

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Ngoko ke ezi Mali zikaRhulumente zeDijithali zinamandla kakhulu,
kuba zigcinwa kwizixhobo zedijithali

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kwizipaji , kwaye kunokwenzeka ukuba kubekwe esweni
ukuba uphi, uthenga ntoni kwaye uchitha malini.

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Kwaye oko kungakhokelela ekubeni
abantu balawuleke ngokupheleleyo.

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Ngoko ke, ifana kakhulu nenkqubo yamanqaku
obuntlalo, njengoko siyazi evela eTshayina – okanye.

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Ngale mbono, oko ke ngumngcipheko omkhulu kakhulu.

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Kodwa ke, yinto endicinga ukuba sele isaziwa
kakuhle luluntu jikelele, ukuba oku kunokwenzeka.

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Ewe, kulungile, enkosi ngaloo nto. Yintoni kanye
kanye esiyiphumezileyo eSwitzerland kulo mmandla?

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Kulungile, eSwitzerland siye sakhula kakhulu ngenxa yokuba,
enkosi kwinto yokuba siqalise amaphulo asaziwayo – oko kukuthi

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"Imali yinkululeko" – ngoku sikwindawo apho sigqiba ukuba yeyiphi
inguqulelo yokhuseleko lwemali eza kufakwa kumgaqo-siseko.

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Ngokuqinisekileyo, siza kulwela ukuqinisekisa ukuba
yinguqulelo yethu – enezingxowankulu namaphepha-mali – ukuze

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siqiniseke ukuba ayizukujikwa ngobuqhetseba ekugqibeleni.

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Sihambele phambili kakhulu kunamanye amazwe
aseYurophu, kwaye oko kubalulekile naseYurophu ngokwayo.

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Kuba ukuba singaphumelela ukufaka loo nto kumgaqo-siseko
waseSwitzerland, ke akusayi kuba lula kangako

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ukuphelisa imali engxoweni eYurophu, kuba kungekho
xesha lide kubekho ukubaleka kwenkunzi eSwitzerland.

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Ukuba iJamani ibingathi, "Asisenayo imali," wonke
umntu ebeya kukhawuleza arhoxe imali yakhe ayise

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eSwitzerland, kuba kulapho imali ibe ikhuselekile.

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Ngoko ke, kunjalo, sikwimeko entle
eSwitzerland xa sithelekiswa namanye amazwe.

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Ingaba oko kwanele ukugcina imali eSwitzerland?

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Hayi, ewe akonelanga oko, ngumgaqo-siseko kuphela.

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Njengoko benditshilo ekuqaleni, uqoqosho luza kuphelisa
imali, kwaye ukuze loo nto yenzeke, thina bantu kufuneka

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sihlawule ngemali ukuze uqoqosho lungakwazi ukuyiphelisa.

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Ngoko ke, iMigros neCoop akufuneki ngesiquphe ziqalise ukufaka
ezi muchini zokuzihlawulela kuphela – okanye nokuba ziyabizwa

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ntoni na – apho wonke umntu kufuneka ahlawule ngendlela
yedijithali, kodwa kufuneka siqhubeke nokuhlawula kakhulu

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ngemali engxoweni, kuquka kwiindawo zokutyela nakuyo yonke
enye indawo, ukuze isixa semali engxoweni sihlale sikhulu.

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U-Thorsten Hens, ingcali yezoqoqosho lwezemali kunye
nonjingalwazi kwiYunivesithi yaseZurich, uthethe ngokucacileyo

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ukuba "njengoko imali engaphezulu kwe-15% yazo zonke
iintengiselwano zezemali, imali ayinakulungiselelwa ukusindiswa".

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Uthe oku kudliwano-ndlebe ne-SRF ngo-2020, kwaye oku
kubonisa ukuba namhlanje – kwi-25% – sesikufuphi kakhulu

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kulo mda, kwaye kufuneka sithathe amanyathelo ukukuthintela.

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Ngoko ke ndiyavuya kuba abantu ngoku sele beqala
ngokwenene ukuhlawula ngemali engxoweni kwakhona.

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Oku kusizisa kumbuzo olandelayo: uluntu lungenza ntoni,
yintoni enye ekufuneka yenziwe, kwaye sinokwenza ntoni?

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Ngoko ke, ezo mhlawumbi ziingongoma ezimbini
okanye ezintathu ezibaluleke kakhulu ngoku.

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Ngoko ke, ngokwenene, kuza kubakho enye
ingxoxo-mpikiswano kwiBhunga leSizwe ngoMatshi

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malunga nesiphakamiso sikaThomas Burgherr.

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Ukongeza kwiphulo lethu elithandwayo, ufuna nokwamkelwa
kuqoqosho – oko kukuthi, ayikokwamkelwa okunyanzelekileyo, kodwa

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kukwamkelwa ngokubanzi – afuna ukukubona kufakwe kumgaqo-siseko.

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sidale isicelo esinokusayinwa ngabantu abaninzi ngoku.

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Ndingacebisa le nto –
www.schweiz-macher.ch – apho unokutyikitya isicelo.

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Sikwenze kwakhona ukuba amanyano abantu abadala – lawo
makhulu anamalungu angama-280,000 – asixhase ekwenzeni

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le ngxelo yamkelwe yiBhunga leSizwe neBhunga lamaZwe.

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Emva koko, ke, kukho into yokuba kufuneka siyokuvota.

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Ngoko ke singavuya kakhulu ukuba singafumana
inkxaso-mali ngoku, kuba akunakwenzeka ngaphandle kwemali.

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Abanye baneebhiliyoni – ngoko ke ngenene sidinga imali eninzi
ukuze sibe nethuba kuvoto, kodwa eyona nto

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ibalulekileyo kukuba abemi baphume ngenene, baphathe
imali engxoweni, baze bahlawule ngemali engxoweni.

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Ewe, ngokwam, ndingathanda kakhulu ukuthatha eli thuba ndicele
onke abemi bethu ukuba bahlawule ngemali engxoweni rhoqo

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kangangoko kunokwenzeka kwixesha elizayo – mhlawumbi bade
bakhethe iivenkile ezisamkela imali engxoweni kunezo

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zingayamkeliyo, kuba lo mcimbi ubaluleke
kakhulu, kakhulu, kakhulu ekuqinisekiseni ukuba

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singakwazi ukugcina imali engxoweni eSwitzerland.

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Kubalulekile kubantwana bethu nakuthi ukuba
sivunyelwe ukuqhubeka siphila ngenkululeko. Enkosi kakhulu!

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Enkosi kakhulu, Mnu Koller, undiqinisile.

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Ndiza kuqhubeka ndihlawula ngemali
engxoweni kuba ndifuna ukugcina imali engxoweni

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kwaye ndiqinisekise ukuba isoloko ikhona kuthi.

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Kwaye enkosi kakhulu ngokuzinikela kwakho, Mnu Koller.
Sikunqwenelela okuhle kodwa kwikamva lakho elisebenzayo.

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Enkosi kakhulu, kwaye ndikunqwenelela
impumelelo eqhubekayo emsebenzini wakho. Enkosi.